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Please remember that while this thread is for QQ and venting about the game, racism is not tolerated here on LD.
whatgoat
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada34 Posts
June 05 2012 04:07 GMT
#1061
On June 03 2012 13:31 Comogury wrote:
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[image loading]

Last 8 games.

The Kunkka and Enchantress games were pretty much my fault, though.

Latest game is RD and I first picked NS.
Rest of my team, in order: Faceless, SA, PotM, PL.
Other team: Veno, Axe, Slardar, WR, Pudge.


those games make you look like a feeder
Comogury
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States412 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-05 04:45:02
June 05 2012 04:40 GMT
#1062
On June 05 2012 13:07 whatgoat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2012 13:31 Comogury wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Last 8 games.

The Kunkka and Enchantress games were pretty much my fault, though.

Latest game is RD and I first picked NS.
Rest of my team, in order: Faceless, SA, PotM, PL.
Other team: Veno, Axe, Slardar, WR, Pudge.


those games make you look like a feeder

I was a feeder in the Kunkka game... I even said it was my pretty much my fault. I guess looking at pictures is all people do now? lol

Look at the times of these games, then look at the tags next to them. It's kind of hard to not die, let alone win, when you're losing and then it suddenly becomes a 4v5 when the actual feeder leaves.

Believe it or not, my own play isn't the only thing that determines my KDA. How do you know that I was the the one feeding first? What if my team fed them, then the other team started to kill me? There are other factors that go into every statistic, and if you were actually decent, you would look past the statistics and realize that my games were probadbly ruined before I started dying like crazy trying to play in a 4v5 situation. Hence, "leaver" and "rage afker" games.

Doom Bringer game:
http://stats.dota2.be/match/18633229
Pugna game:
http://stats.dota2.be/match/18736321
Necrolyte game:
http://stats.dota2.be/match/18738969 (actually I did pretty bad because I was forced to mid against a Tiny that was already 3 levels above me... long story short: Furion went mid, but didn't actually go mid and no one noticed for 4 minutes. I did play poorly in this game regardless. :p)
Dark Seer game:
http://stats.dota2.be/match/18742319
Kuzmorgo
Profile Joined May 2009
Hungary1058 Posts
June 05 2012 08:12 GMT
#1063
On June 05 2012 08:41 DoNotDisturb wrote:
Log in to smurf, welp time to own newbs

first game, opponents have like 1.4k wins, total

thanks, mmr


And you fucking deserve it for smurfing...
"No, whine not! Play, or play not! There is no whine."
Zholistic
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia278 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-05 09:28:44
June 05 2012 09:26 GMT
#1064
Lets say you win 80% of the time when you play with all friends on skype. Let's say this 80% win rate happens after 20 games. So you win 16/20 times. The null hypothesis is if playing with friends didn't matter is that you should win 50% of the time; 10/20.

Using a binomial distribution for BI(20,0.5) we get a P-value: 2*(Pr(X=16)+Pr(X=17)+Pr(X=18)+Pr(X=19)) = 0.0118. So this tells us that yes, you can be confident that playing with friends does make a difference if you do win 16 games out of 20 with them.

However, running the same analysis with only 8 wins out of 10 games gives us a P-value of 0.11; so you couldn't be 95% confident that playing with friends made you win - so we cannot rule out the null hypothesis.
"Scissors are overpowered. Rock is fine." -Paper
Bash
Profile Joined August 2007
Finland1533 Posts
June 05 2012 11:57 GMT
#1065
I just realized I've never had a Phantom Lancer that wasn't completely worthless the entire game on my team. Weird.
I can't sing and I can't dance, but still I know how to clap my hands.
Hoban
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1600 Posts
June 05 2012 12:09 GMT
#1066
I never ever ever ever will win more than 10 games in a row ever again. The complete and utter horror that you get matched with is....well....it was unfathomable until now. I can't even express how utterly hopeless, stupid, and insulting the people you get paired with are. I can only assume that you all know what I am talking about.
"I am a leaf on the wind."
myti
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland43 Posts
June 05 2012 12:56 GMT
#1067
since na'vi vs darer i've seen russian junglepudges in every single game and none of them actually know how to do it. makes me sad
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
June 05 2012 12:59 GMT
#1068
It's a freekill everytime, just wander around their jungle at 5min, poof, he's dead. :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
TheRPGAddict
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1403 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 02:56:50
June 06 2012 02:46 GMT
#1069
Played a game earlier today. The other team picked a very magic heavy lineup early on and our team already had Beastmaster and 2 supports and we needed a hard carry so I went Antimage because he has very good spell resistance and I was going to lane with a Witch Doctor, which is a decent lane. Our Witch Doctor proceeds to constantly auto attack the creep wave despite us telling him not to and does no harass. He says "I would stop auto attacking if you stop taking all the last hits." As if Witch Doctor needs farm. Doesn't matter, I get rush Battlefury at 15 minutes after a poor-mans, slightly delayed, but not terrible given the circumstance ( missed some CS because of the pushed lane and his lack of harassment ). The other team was very bad, I get a kill on a wandering CM and a Lion on the other team who gave 2 early kills to me while I was in the jungle. However, I also get ganked twice, one due to my own fault ( wanted to finish off a creep camp and then blink out, they hit me right before I blinked out, but I had a sense they were looking for me in our jungle ) and another simply because we had no wards and I got completely caught out. This happens to the rest of our team periodically and we beg Witch Doctor to purchase wards. He says I should buy wards because "Carries make more money, thus they should be the ones that buy wards." I kindly explain to him what the support role entails and how Witch Doctor is a solid support hero because he is very item independent. He said that it was his style as if it is equally optimized. I carried by the end of the game OK regardless ( Manta, Battlefury, Heart, Treads finishing a Butterfly by 35-40 minutes ) and we rolled the team, but as someone who frequently plays support, I was appalled at how oblivious the moron was.

P.S. We also had a shitty Rikimaru player who picked after everyone else ( yeah, terrible pick ) and just stealthed everywhere.
TheRPGAddict
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1403 Posts
June 06 2012 03:00 GMT
#1070
On May 10 2012 03:56 Erasme wrote:
[image loading]

... I was speechless. Last pick wants to get am. So i'm sacarstic 'yeah plz pick am, we don't have enough carry' and wtf does he do? he picks it. then proceeds to have 800hp at 30min. YA GREAT BOY
(we lost)
Bu bu bu he had teh Vlads!!!!
tpmraven
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States833 Posts
June 06 2012 04:43 GMT
#1071
On June 05 2012 08:46 Dead9 wrote:
number of wins and skill level have no correlation


idiotic responses like these make me upset.

Sure there isnt a 100% chance that a person with 60 wins is going to be worse then a person with 500 wins, but the chances are WELL WELL WELL in favor of the person who has played 1k games being better then the person who has around 100...

Considering this is beta, most people will not have more than 1 account.

i assume that comments like these are from people with low win counts who rage HARD when they lose, blame others, and rarely solo que.
(⌐■_■) Like a boss
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
June 06 2012 10:04 GMT
#1072
On June 06 2012 13:43 tpmraven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2012 08:46 Dead9 wrote:
number of wins and skill level have no correlation


idiotic responses like these make me upset.

Sure there isnt a 100% chance that a person with 60 wins is going to be worse then a person with 500 wins, but the chances are WELL WELL WELL in favor of the person who has played 1k games being better then the person who has around 100...

Considering this is beta, most people will not have more than 1 account.

i assume that comments like these are from people with low win counts who rage HARD when they lose, blame others, and rarely solo que.

lol okay you can put words in my mouth
maybe "no correlation" is a bit strong here, but there is "very little" correlation between number of wins and skill level
a large number of the players that are moving over to dota2 have played dota1, and experience transfers over pretty readily
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 11:41:20
June 06 2012 10:53 GMT
#1073
There are plenty of players with years of experience and thousands of games that are simply terrible. Plus 50 games is enough for someone to reach somewhere close to his actual skill in MMR. You absolutely cannot relate number of games to skill level in Dota. Do you expect people to play a thousand games before they move up the ladder if they are actually decent? Asking to match people by both skill level and number of games is insane, it's hard enough to match teams well right now.
LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
June 06 2012 11:07 GMT
#1074
The only thing you can really say from someone's number of wins is whether they might be completely new. Even the most terrible MoM+5-other-orb-rushing only-invis-picking ursa-is-OP-thinking player is better than a completely new to ARTS player. At least if someone has 50 or so wins then they aren't worse than the affore-mentioned terrible yet experienced player.

But the relationship between experience and skill is pretty accurately modelled by a logarithmic function. Very important when you don't have any, but if you do have some it quickly becomes nigh-worthless.
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
sandyph
Profile Joined September 2010
Indonesia1640 Posts
June 06 2012 11:39 GMT
#1075
On June 04 2012 13:25 EchoZ wrote:
Winning by 2x kills, our carry invoker sells all his items and makes them into flying couriers, proceeds to feed the courier to the opponent's void and fed himself 10+ kills.

We lost.


wow, an Invoker from the opposing team did this last night :D

I was confuse when there are like 6 notification in a row that the radiant couriers have been killed

and when we finally push their mid barrack he buy like 20-30 carier and send them to die
Put quote here for readability
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
June 06 2012 12:36 GMT
#1076
Has anyone else also encountered what I call the "Lycan paradox"?

We all know this hero is probably the best hero to stomp pubs with. His jungling is easy and fast. He can farm anywhere with ridiculous speed. He can solo roshan the moment he gets vlads + medallion. Once he gets a few items he doesn't need to worry about his mana ever again. He pushes like a beast. He's easy to use. When he gets a BKB he's ridiculously strong in midgame. He scales well into late game. Almost no one tries to stop his farm in pubs. With his ult + BKB he can escape almost any situation. And every friend that I've gotten to try Lycan has done at least above average with him.

And yet, despite all of this, I have literally not encountered a single Lycan who was even halfway decent. Not only do people almost never pick him, but the few people who do have absolutely no idea how to play him. They lane with him. The few lycans that do jungle are so bad that they end up lower level than the dual lanes. They build retarded items on him. They don't roshan. They don't push.

The more I think of it the more it blows my mind why I never see him.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
June 06 2012 13:01 GMT
#1077
When I pick Void: Yeah, fuck you, go solo on lane. Wtf, why don't you have farm. Noob, report.

When someone on the enemy team picks Void: Freefarm, nice feeding, comfy supports all around.

Not fair >_>
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
Corsica
Profile Joined February 2011
Ukraine1854 Posts
June 06 2012 13:17 GMT
#1078
On February 10 2012 07:49 kellymilkies wrote:
Erm Russians.
Everytime I play with Russians I feel like minus 10 years of my life.

if russian is on your team = he ignores you for 80 minute rpg farm game or pick a carry and feed and flame in russian.
if russian is on opp team = scene, if win = hohoho im dendi xaxa aaxa, if losing = defend for 70 minutes refuse to leave game

one of the few examples of lovely teammates.

last week i was trying to stay up overnight to "fix my sleep", played for about 9 games, last 7 games was all MM solo Q on Europe, all russian teammates.. after that, I didn't play dota2 for a week till last night.
ggnore
/rant



Rus and Ukraine has best dota players, we never give up
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
June 07 2012 01:46 GMT
#1079
Game starts, 4 players pick Invoker Furion (me) Enigma BH.

BH: I think we have too many carries...

I should have known we were gonna lose right then

5th player picks Drow. Long story short the Drow and BH are typical pub Drows and BHs. They feed, they can't last hit, they can't farm and they are always trying to gank despite being fucking useless without items.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-07 14:55:35
June 07 2012 12:26 GMT
#1080
I'm on a 10 game losing streak !! YEEEEEEEE. This matchmaking system is working very well.

edit: 11 now. I just finished playing a game where an invoker had fun using tornado while i was inside my ult ( i was void ) so i couldnt hit the enemies. I reported him and i hope he gets banned.
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