• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 23:44
CEST 05:44
KST 12:44
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202535Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder9EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced50BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams10Weekly Cups (July 14-20): Final Check-up0
StarCraft 2
General
Serral wins EWC 2025 The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 2025 Classic: "It's a thick wall to break through to become world champ" Firefly given lifetime ban by ESIC following match-fixing investigation
Tourneys
LiuLi Cup Weeklies and Monthlies Info Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) TaeJa vs Creator Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $10,000 live event
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
Scmdraft 2 - 0.9.0 Preview BW General Discussion [BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced Which top zerg/toss will fail in qualifiers?
Tourneys
[ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2 [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 1 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
[G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason Total Annihilation Server - TAForever [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
The Link Between Fitness and…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 571 users

Dota 2 QQ thread - Page 46

Forum Index > The Tavern
Post a Reply
Prev 1 44 45 46 47 48 1519 Next
Please remember that while this thread is for QQ and venting about the game, racism is not tolerated here on LD.
Anacletus
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States733 Posts
May 09 2012 22:22 GMT
#901
So, this isn't really QQ as in I'm sad. It's more QQ as in wtf is wrong with some of the people that play DotA.....

I was informed by someone who was on my team in a game earlier that Dark Seer + Blood Seeker is the best combination ever because you can just surge whoever BS casts his ult on.

Did I just get trolled? What in the hell is going on?!?
http://talk-to-stimey-please.1324083.n2.nabble.com/
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
May 09 2012 22:26 GMT
#902
On May 10 2012 07:22 Anacletus wrote:
So, this isn't really QQ as in I'm sad. It's more QQ as in wtf is wrong with some of the people that play DotA.....

I was informed by someone who was on my team in a game earlier that Dark Seer + Blood Seeker is the best combination ever because you can just surge whoever BS casts his ult on.

Did I just get trolled? What in the hell is going on?!?

Well if you surge someone right when they get ulted they run a lot further than they would normally. Makes sense but not really the best combo per se.
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
paschl
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany666 Posts
May 09 2012 23:25 GMT
#903
On May 10 2012 07:26 Dubzex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 07:22 Anacletus wrote:
So, this isn't really QQ as in I'm sad. It's more QQ as in wtf is wrong with some of the people that play DotA.....

I was informed by someone who was on my team in a game earlier that Dark Seer + Blood Seeker is the best combination ever because you can just surge whoever BS casts his ult on.

Did I just get trolled? What in the hell is going on?!?

Well if you surge someone right when they get ulted they run a lot further than they would normally. Makes sense but not really the best combo per se.


and once they realise they ran too far you can just vacuum them back
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-09 23:26:53
May 09 2012 23:26 GMT
#904
On May 10 2012 08:25 paschl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 07:26 Dubzex wrote:
On May 10 2012 07:22 Anacletus wrote:
So, this isn't really QQ as in I'm sad. It's more QQ as in wtf is wrong with some of the people that play DotA.....

I was informed by someone who was on my team in a game earlier that Dark Seer + Blood Seeker is the best combination ever because you can just surge whoever BS casts his ult on.

Did I just get trolled? What in the hell is going on?!?

Well if you surge someone right when they get ulted they run a lot further than they would normally. Makes sense but not really the best combo per se.


and once they realise they ran too far you can just vacuum them back

Yes, which should also do more damage based on the distance traveled.
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
paschl
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany666 Posts
May 09 2012 23:31 GMT
#905
but tbh the combo isnt that great. this will work at most once per enemy. as soon as they realise what youre doing they should be prepared.
i mean you might aswell say bs+pudge is the best combo because he can just hook the guy that got ulted.

yesterday i played pudge and hooked someone so that he hit an arrow my potm had shot mid hook.
i took full credit although i didnt even see the arrow ^^
Kuzmorgo
Profile Joined May 2009
Hungary1058 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-10 01:14:08
May 10 2012 01:11 GMT
#906
FUCK THIS SHITTY RETARDED MMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I get fucking noobs, slardar+sniper on one lane!?!?!?!?!?! against AM warlock, they lose completely, AM has vanguard+PT at 10 minutes!!!! and Slardar Sniper both have 20 lasthits at 20 minutes.. Game was fucking great tyvm
Btw everyone on my team has less than 50 wins, while enemy team has 180 win players..
"No, whine not! Play, or play not! There is no whine."
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
May 10 2012 03:56 GMT
#907
furion who goes midas > dagon > agha

am who keeps trying to go bfury despite getting outpushed like mad

furion and beastmaster tries to 2v5 at rosh

why
ffxiv enjoyer
LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
May 10 2012 04:00 GMT
#908
BF is always the answer for AM.

Winning hardcore? 15 min BF, 20 min GG
Terrible start? Get BF, farm back into the game.
Pushing game? BF splash = better pushing power.
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-10 04:04:58
May 10 2012 04:04 GMT
#909
On May 10 2012 13:00 LAN-f34r wrote:
BF is always the answer for AM.

Winning hardcore? 15 min BF, 20 min GG
Terrible start? Get BF, farm back into the game.
Pushing game? BF splash = better pushing power.


am with bf but 1k hp does nothing against a lesh wr omni riki doom team, capable of raxing at <30min
ffxiv enjoyer
SockArms
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States591 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-10 05:04:02
May 10 2012 05:03 GMT
#910
ugh I have a group of friends and we've all been gaming together for years but they abandon all the time, refuse to play as a team and it's creating a division down the middle of us. We've all spent years playing games together but some of us play dota more seriously and don't want to play with them when they abandon, don't buy boots the whole game, never carry tp's and don't play as a team. And when we say we don't want to paly with them they get all offended and get mad don't really want to split a long time group of friends over a game but even when I try to jsut go in to game with a just for fun mentality it really isn't fun having 2 of your teammates afk farm jungle all game then abandon when they start dying a lot late game.... /rantoff
| Cloud9 | DK | Liquid |
LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
May 10 2012 05:21 GMT
#911
On May 10 2012 13:04 DoNotDisturb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 13:00 LAN-f34r wrote:
BF is always the answer for AM.

Winning hardcore? 15 min BF, 20 min GG
Terrible start? Get BF, farm back into the game.
Pushing game? BF splash = better pushing power.


am with bf but 1k hp does nothing against a lesh wr omni riki doom team, capable of raxing at <30min


Well that isn't really that dangerous of a push team, put lesh omni in any team and you have similar pushing power

And vanguard+vlads or manta AM wouldn't do anything either. When you have BF, you can farm into a state where you can actually do something.

30 mins isn't an early rax O.o BF AM can become unstoppable by 30 mins if he gets a good lane.
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
paschl
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany666 Posts
May 10 2012 05:22 GMT
#912
sounds like your friends are douchebags.
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
May 10 2012 07:19 GMT
#913
On May 10 2012 10:11 Kuzmorgo wrote:
FUCK THIS SHITTY RETARDED MMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I get fucking noobs, slardar+sniper on one lane!?!?!?!?!?! against AM warlock, they lose completely, AM has vanguard+PT at 10 minutes!!!! and Slardar Sniper both have 20 lasthits at 20 minutes.. Game was fucking great tyvm
Btw everyone on my team has less than 50 wins, while enemy team has 180 win players..

People worry too much about amount of wins. I played with a guy from the TL chat, he had thirty wins... he went 41-3 as shadow fiend on mid.

Remember, there are people in Bronze in SC2 with 1000+ league wins and players in masters with a hundred.
m3rciless
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1476 Posts
May 10 2012 07:25 GMT
#914
On May 10 2012 14:21 LAN-f34r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 13:04 DoNotDisturb wrote:
On May 10 2012 13:00 LAN-f34r wrote:
BF is always the answer for AM.

Winning hardcore? 15 min BF, 20 min GG
Terrible start? Get BF, farm back into the game.
Pushing game? BF splash = better pushing power.


am with bf but 1k hp does nothing against a lesh wr omni riki doom team, capable of raxing at <30min


Well that isn't really that dangerous of a push team, put lesh omni in any team and you have similar pushing power

And vanguard+vlads or manta AM wouldn't do anything either. When you have BF, you can farm into a state where you can actually do something.

30 mins isn't an early rax O.o BF AM can become unstoppable by 30 mins if he gets a good lane.


Yeah, what items would you rather AM get? Any pro would get bf in that situation. Link doesn't even bother to keep track fo gamestate when he plays am, just head straight for bf and poor mans before even checking what their heros are.
White-Ra fighting!
Narcind
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2489 Posts
May 10 2012 07:45 GMT
#915
On May 10 2012 16:25 m3rciless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 14:21 LAN-f34r wrote:
On May 10 2012 13:04 DoNotDisturb wrote:
On May 10 2012 13:00 LAN-f34r wrote:
BF is always the answer for AM.

Winning hardcore? 15 min BF, 20 min GG
Terrible start? Get BF, farm back into the game.
Pushing game? BF splash = better pushing power.


am with bf but 1k hp does nothing against a lesh wr omni riki doom team, capable of raxing at <30min


Well that isn't really that dangerous of a push team, put lesh omni in any team and you have similar pushing power

And vanguard+vlads or manta AM wouldn't do anything either. When you have BF, you can farm into a state where you can actually do something.

30 mins isn't an early rax O.o BF AM can become unstoppable by 30 mins if he gets a good lane.


Yeah, what items would you rather AM get? Any pro would get bf in that situation. Link doesn't even bother to keep track fo gamestate when he plays am, just head straight for bf and poor mans before even checking what their heros are.


Some teams prefer a vanguard and vlad on their AM, when XBOCT plays it for example, he almost always goes treads vanguard vlad into manta so he can help his team push and actually have a presence in teamfights, rather than relying on his team to not get smashed 4v5 while he farms.

And who says you have to rush a bfury, if you have an AM on your team and you're up vs a heavy push lineup that can kill AM easily, it's probably going to be a good move from the AM to go vanguard vlad instead of bfury to make sure that he doesn't get completely destroyed going into the midgame. But since these types of teams often don't have a real carry of their own, AM will still do fine as long as he lives, and once his team has stabilized a bit from the heavy pushing, he can get a bfury to not only start farming at the ridiculous rate that is bfury AM, but also to help push out lanes, especially if one of your lanes have been raxed.
LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
May 10 2012 08:23 GMT
#916
I feel like that if AM is going vanguard+vlads, your team lost in the drafting phase. Na'vi were doing that when AM was still popular and hence they didn't want to give it away, but push was becoming popular. Remember Defence finals though?

Quite simply, if your team can't 4v5 their team, you shouldn't have picked AM.

I mean, all a AM with van+vlads is in teamfights is a vlads aura and mana drain, and then a possibility of free gold if his team dies/runs and the enemy has some disables left.
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
May 10 2012 09:32 GMT
#917
Shadow Fiend skills raze first.

gg

(that, and he fed all game >_>)
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
May 10 2012 09:37 GMT
#918
On May 10 2012 18:32 ChrisXIV wrote:
Shadow Fiend skills raze first.

gg

(that, and he fed all game >_>)

Did you just play on the USW server and did he feed an Invoker solo mid?
Moderator
ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
May 10 2012 09:42 GMT
#919
On May 10 2012 18:37 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 18:32 ChrisXIV wrote:
Shadow Fiend skills raze first.

gg

(that, and he fed all game >_>)

Did you just play on the USW server and did he feed an Invoker solo mid?

Nah, was on EU and he fed Pudge and Naix.
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
R-Tier
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden13 Posts
May 10 2012 10:51 GMT
#920
On May 10 2012 16:25 m3rciless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 14:21 LAN-f34r wrote:
On May 10 2012 13:04 DoNotDisturb wrote:
On May 10 2012 13:00 LAN-f34r wrote:
BF is always the answer for AM.

Winning hardcore? 15 min BF, 20 min GG
Terrible start? Get BF, farm back into the game.
Pushing game? BF splash = better pushing power.


am with bf but 1k hp does nothing against a lesh wr omni riki doom team, capable of raxing at <30min


Well that isn't really that dangerous of a push team, put lesh omni in any team and you have similar pushing power

And vanguard+vlads or manta AM wouldn't do anything either. When you have BF, you can farm into a state where you can actually do something.

30 mins isn't an early rax O.o BF AM can become unstoppable by 30 mins if he gets a good lane.


Yeah, what items would you rather AM get? Any pro would get bf in that situation. Link doesn't even bother to keep track fo gamestate when he plays am, just head straight for bf and poor mans before even checking what their heros are.


Link is a low tier pro, I have no idea why you used him as an example. Most of the times, BF is the way to go. Some of the time, it's plain stupid & will lose you the game.
Prev 1 44 45 46 47 48 1519 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 6h 16m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft348
Nina 188
SC2Nice 13
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 16023
Barracks 1780
ggaemo 192
Hyun 131
Sexy 64
firebathero 43
Aegong 40
Icarus 8
Dota 2
monkeys_forever901
NeuroSwarm173
League of Legends
JimRising 572
febbydoto26
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K726
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King46
amsayoshi44
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor146
Other Games
summit1g11245
C9.Mang0574
ViBE216
Livibee29
ROOTCatZ27
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick849
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta71
• Hupsaiya 57
• practicex 49
• gosughost_ 15
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1033
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6h 16m
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
10h 16m
Bonyth vs TBD
WardiTV European League
12h 16m
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
HeRoMaRinE vs MaxPax
Wardi Open
1d 7h
OSC
1d 20h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
6 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
HCC Europe
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CAC 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.