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On May 11 2012 16:30 Canas wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2012 08:12 LAN-f34r wrote:On May 10 2012 21:26 Canas wrote:On May 10 2012 20:44 LAN-f34r wrote:
The point of BF isn't to teamfight immediately after - it is to farm for 5 mins and come out with a full inventory. With a vlads+vanguard AM, you plan to be in a fight. My point is that AM shouldn't even try to fight at this point, hence they should go BF so that they can get to the point where he can teamfight. Which is why you go vanguard vlad when there is no fucking way the other team will allow you to farm, and when they're forcing fights and pushing towers in a way that either you help your team and fight, or you lose the game. Obviously bfury is going to be the preferred choice if you can get away with it in like 99% of games, but vanguard vlad has its place and completely disregarding it is just really, really stupid. On May 10 2012 20:44 LAN-f34r wrote:
If you are using AM in a pushing/teamfighting lineup, why not go DK or a similar hero? More powerful early and mid game, and still relevant at late game - and you are aiming to have midgame fights, so you shouldn't worry too much about late game. And regarding this, it's just because you take the AM away from the other team. If AM does get fed he snowballs out of control MUCH faster than a DK does, he can still fight in the midgame just fine, and if you pick a carry, it means you're obviously not intending to go for an all in style push strategy, which means there's always a possibility for a lategame, so it's good to have your bases covered when it comes to lategame as well. If you pick up supports/gankers first, you can judge how their team is forming and see if you can get a hard carry like AM to work. If they have leshrac veno rhasta ect, then AM is not the right choice, as he will be forced to fight with vanguard vlads. Sure, if you had AM against that team, vanguarad vlads is probably the right choice. But, it wasn't the right choice to pick AM in the first place. There is a reason in competitive drafts you normally pick your carry last (unless you pick a really OP one, like sylla). I even believe puppey has been quoted saying that "there's no such thing as outpick", which I would actually be inclined to believe unless you take it to the extreme, which puppey actually does every now and then. Not too long ago he picked a lineup of brood/invoker/NS/AM/SD and ran a support NS in a game vs mouz. They lost that game, but the fact that a drafter of puppey's level would draft a lineup like that says a thing or two.
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I'm currently playing with a no raze sf rushing Mjollnir arguing with me it's the best ... urgh
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I've only been seriously playing for a week and solo queue is already crushing my soul.
How do you guys keep this up?
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On May 12 2012 09:13 Klonere wrote:
I've only been seriously playing for a week and solo queue is already crushing my soul.
How do you guys keep this up?
When i'm too tired to try, i fast pick lycan/furion and get a fast necro 3. Then I just play like it was against IA.
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Holy shit I just played the worst game in my life. (huge rant incoming)
I finally have a break from exams this weekend so I decide to play some dota. Queued with friends and we lost, fine, no big deal. Seeing as people here have reported that queuing with friends gives you a MMR boost which shafts you if you are playing with friends who aren't that good, I decided to solo queue once and figured it would be an easy win. BIGGEST MISTAKE OF MY LIFE.
So we get into the game and I pick Lycan. Teammates pick Warlock, Windrunner, Dazzle and Bane. Enemy team picks Slardar, Necro, Lion, Antimage and Alchemist. Well fuck we're already kind of outpicked since we have 4 support heroes and 1 carry, and since I'm jungling anyway the support heroes are going to end up with no one to babysit. I point this out and my teammates dismiss this saying "WR is a semi-carry" and "why should you be complaining you're the carry anyway". I then try to make the best of the situation by asking bane to go mid and WR to solo top, leaving dazzle/warlock on the bottom which is kind of retarded but I don't see a way around it. Instead WR goes mid and bane goes bot leaving dazzle to solo the dangerous lane. Meh. At least they bought courier and flying courier, which is a small mercy.
So we end up playing and I get nice jungle spawns (2 trolls in the hard camps), fast forward about 15 minutes later and I'm 2-3 levels ahead of everyone else in the game with aegis and everything is going fine even though my teammates feeding a lot. Once in early game Bane has his ult on one guy and seeing as I'm the only carry on my team I step in and take the last hit.
Bane immediately goes berserk and starts flaming me, calling me a selfish cunt etc etc. Pretty standard shit, annoying as fuck but I do my best to ignore and to laugh at him.
Now for some reason my team decides to have 4 people top in the mid game so I decide to solo push lanes. We win a few team fights and everything is going well. I have BKB and AC at aroudn 30 minutes with aegis so I get everyone to push mid to rax.
Unfortunately by this time their carries have already gotten pretty farmed (not as farmed as me, but all of them had items and Alch + Slardar + AM together can definitely outcarry a lycan). We lose the teamfight at mid and then WR and bane instantly start flaming me, calling me an idiot for pushing mid, for initiating by myself and tanking everything, telling me to stop playing captain. I realize that we are no longer able to win anymore because the enemy carries are too farmed up and the enemy team is much stronger in a teamfight.
The rest of the game is just a massive flamefest between me, WR and Bane. How the fuck do you expect me to outcarry AM Slardar Alch as Lycan in a game with 4 support heroes on my team ESPECIALLY IF YOU FUCKING FEED THEM IN THE EARLY GAME? They even blame their feeding on me because I was "farming the whole game" and "left them to play 4v5". What the fuck, it was YOUR decision to play 4v5 by all bunching up at top lane, meanwhile I was fucking pushing towers instead of just afk farming.
The worst is when they blamed me for not trying to help them whenever they engage and get themselves screwed over. Bane even goes as far as to label me "last one in, first one out". That's right, a few minutes ago they blamed me for charging in and tanking everything and now they're flaming me for not being a dumbass like them and feeding with them. When I point out this discrepancy they even have the cheek to deny it. They tell me to shut the fuck up because "it's 4 against 1", are you serious?
Just as we lose the game I get this fucking gem of a comment from WR and Bane: "the moment he complained about 4 supports, I knew we were going to lose". /facepalm
This is more than what I can take. Please, if you queue on the SEA, China, or HK servers, please for the love of god and for the sake of my sanity, post or PM me your steam ID.
edit: I just went on stats.dota2.be and I realized that the WR and Bane were friends with almost all of their games together, LMAO. No wonder why they were using the same insults towards me. Birds of a feather flock together indeed.
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4 mins into the game, SF owning mid, krob+veno owning top, ES focusing on lasthiting when I'm morphling
Its just so nice to see that game is over right when it started.
EDIT: at 12 min mark its 18-0 btw
EDIT2: and they are flaming me for jungling when the game is clearly completely over...
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After games I find myself saying nice meal more than gg.
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sooo, i pick void (SD), guy picks huskar when he knows hes gonna lane with me. We are against 2 melee so own early game, but share farm. Mid game im (the late game hero) in EVERY single battle while huskar is farming (the midgame hero), and when 1 single battle I am not with them, because i destroyed 2 (not 1, 2) tier 2 towers instead, they start to flame me how noob I am... Im also underfarmed due to Huskar taking all the farm on the map... I love people that understand this game.
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On February 10 2012 07:49 kellymilkies wrote:
Erm Russians.
Everytime I play with Russians I feel like minus 10 years of my life.
if russian is on your team = he ignores you for 80 minute rpg farm game or pick a carry and feed and flame in russian.
if russian is on opp team = scene, if win = hohoho im dendi xaxa aaxa, if losing = defend for 70 minutes refuse to leave game
one of the few examples of lovely teammates.
last week i was trying to stay up overnight to "fix my sleep", played for about 9 games, last 7 games was all MM solo Q on Europe, all russian teammates.. after that, I didn't play dota2 for a week till last night.
ggnore
/rant
Russians have been ruining almost all of my games the last week. Even the ones we win are just a complete trial. I'm not having fun anymore PURELY because of Russians. I only queue as 5 now.
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Sven calls solo mid. Dis game gonna be good.
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I don't think you have enough carry.
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I didn't either. But it's okay, we had no courier either so that gives the same amount of points as +1 carry. Same with no wards. The Sven fed and went 1-6 within 10 minutes, then admitted he was a noob and didn't respond when others asked him 'why the fuck did you ask for mid then'. Bottom lane fed the pudge as well. Thankfully about 10 minutes into the game the opponent's bloodseeker disconnected for too long so I left the game around the 20 minute mark with the score heavily in their favour. :>
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On May 13 2012 17:31 Firebolt145 wrote:
I didn't either. But it's okay, we had no courier either so that gives the same amount of points as +1 carry. Same with no wards. The Sven fed and went 1-6 within 10 minutes, then admitted he was a noob and didn't respond when others asked him 'why the fuck did you ask for mid then'. Bottom lane fed the pudge as well. Thankfully about 10 minutes into the game the opponent's bloodseeker disconnected for too long so I left the game around the 20 minute mark with the score heavily in their favour. :>
at least he admitted he was a noob, most of the people I encounter are too arrogant to even do that.
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I hate it when people take my farm. Especially in the jungle, what's up with that. I'm Drow, farming happily, when suddenly Slardar comes up and kills the creeps I'm currently farming. Wtf. He QQed about the game being over before...well, if you don't let your carries farm, that may be the reason...? Seriously, some people -_-
And on Drow: everyone seems to think that she doesn't need farm. o.O WR complaining about me being noob(as in, no kills), when she took my cs with her Powershot and better attack animation, like, duh, what did you expect?
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Are you fuckin kidding me ????????? I got matched against a 5 man party... seriously that's the most retarded thing ever. This matchmaking system is so stupid that it's ruining me the experience of the game.
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the last few days I've been running into almost entirely into stacks, its really anoying but its just part of the game atm
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On May 14 2012 02:55 cilinder007 wrote:
the last few days I've been running into almost entirely into stacks, its really anoying but its just part of the game atm
at this point, i truly wish that my mm gets lower that i might play against noobs, at least in that way i can carry the whole team by myself lol
but the problem is, noobs always pick carry and think they can carry......zero map awareness, shitty farm skill.........i always go for semi carry nowadays but wtf can i do when the other two lanes always lose??!
i have played fewer games recently and am starting to doubt that dota2 may fail due to this distasteful mm system. thank god d3 is coming and i cannot wait to stay away from dota2 for awhile.
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Call me a noob, but should AM/ES ever beat a Sand King/WR lane? AM was 5-0 after 9 minutes. I turned 6 as he got his 4th kill. I kill him after his 5th kill, because he is indeed bad. When I inquired about how AM/ES lane could possibly win, let alone go 5-0, I get "you didn't gank" and "they tower dove us."
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goes 18-4-15 as Riki, still lose the match
*sigh*
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