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Emix_Squall
France705 Posts
On April 25 2012 22:34 Bloodash wrote: I always hardcounter huskar firstpicks with heroes like necro because of my deep hatred of huskars in pubs f*** em! :p Same thing with Lion or Lina, anything that has enough burst can pretty much one shot him in early / mid game. | ||
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Logo
United States7542 Posts
On April 25 2012 21:47 Emix_Squall wrote: Anyone noticed that ever since the "randomly picked X" message as appeared at the beginning of games, more and more people play random. Such a retard tendency IMO. It's like everyone basically thinks: "Hey, now my opponent knows when I'm playing a hero there's 90% chance I have no idea how to play, let's do that all the time, feeding is so much more fun" ... It's really a stupid behaviour. I used to play All-Pick and Captain mode, but I'm seriously considering dropping all-pick games to play captain mode only, even if it takes longer to find a game. The whole idea of bonus gold for randoming is stupid to begin with which is the cause of the whole issue. It just gives people a way to ruin pubs (either by getting bad randoms and sucking, or getting really lucky randoms like a strong solo). My QQ story is a really frustrating win actually. We had Lone Druid, Sand King (me), Shadow Shaman, and then our last 2 pick Drow and Sniper. Whatever, it's a low level pub it'll work. Sniper proceeds to auto-attack the lane (I'm with him) yet somehow we still come out with even/winning the lane. Then I discover not only has the drow mid died 2-3 times, but she doesn't have a single level of silence OR frost arrow despite being 9 or 10. Ok yeah you can skimp on the disables as drow and pump your damage and what not, but really not a SINGLE level of either? Ok whatever, we can deal with it lone druid is doing well and I have enough farm to initiate and stay alive. Well their team has a Brood Mother who buys an eye. We finally manage to wrestle the eye from her, but it's quite early so we don't really need it yet. I put it in the fountain and say QUITE EXPLICITLY several times to leave it there for when druid becomes a tanky beast. What happens? Drow immediately picks it up, then dies because she has 0 survivability items and still 0 points in silence/frost arrow (and even beyond in teamfights that being a problem she also would run around on her on). Eventually we get it back* and win by pushing with shaman + me + farmed druid with aegis but damn that drow made it hard on us. *I ended up hiding it in the woods near our fountain so drow wouldn't pick it up again, but it'd be there if I wanted it later. | ||
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TheWarbler
United States1659 Posts
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Emix_Squall
France705 Posts
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TheWarbler
United States1659 Posts
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Horo
United States351 Posts
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xZiGGY
United Kingdom801 Posts
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Zumm
Germany122 Posts
Great. 30 Minutes in the game we dominate (god knows how). After that Riki and Jugger just start flaming each other and throw the game like total retards. Dying while writing, only farming the whole game. I can't believe we lost a game in lategame with 3 carrys... | ||
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Wrongspeedy
United States1655 Posts
On April 26 2012 02:57 TheWarbler wrote: The hero is called Drow Ranger not Draw ranger. We are not Drawing. Aweee but I like Drawering. Since I'm in this thread. Where is my Phantom Lancer?!?!?! Need Moar Phantom Lancer | ||
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FatCaT1337
22 Posts
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Asvhald
Spain199 Posts
a) It seems that Dota 2 likes to punish you for playing with friends. If you premake and there is more or less a skill "gap" between members of the group, you are going to get screwed by matchmaking no matter what. It'll put you against 5 tryhards or enemies way out of the group's league. b)I think MMR boost for premades is FUBAR. Played 2 games the other day: in the first one, me and some buddies played as a group of 5 (three of us were more or less decent, two were quite worse) and matchmaking gave us a 27-4 kill score loss. Balanced, if you ask me. On the other hand, the next game there was just me and a friend, got matched against an obvious premade of 5 (matching icons/names and such) and stomped them so hard I felt ashamed. I think it was pretty much the same score as before, only in our favor this time. c) Hero imbalance: not strictly speaking about hero power level (there is that too), but some heroes are so stupidly easy and forgiving (Examples: Leoric, Sven, Axe, Lycan, Balanar, Anti-Mage...) or plain straight overpowered (Lycan again, Invoker, Furion, etc...) that, in non-competitive matches, they just win because, even though their players make as many mistakes as anyone else, theirs are just not punished equally. As a mainly support player, nothing infuriates me more than watch how an idiotic hero which a chimpanzee could play just as well, kills me with two clicks at any point in the game. It's just so frustrating, having to outplay them threefold if you want any chance to win the game. d) Retarded teammates: I won't say that I am pro or something, as I often don't play my best (sucks to tilt easily  ), but the amount of pure vegetative brains encountered baffles my mind. I have as many anecdotes of this as anyone else, just going to leave one: a base trade scenario (the two teams trying to be the first to take down the other team's Ancient), which we would have won, except our imbecile Riki thinks it's a good idea to hit bottom barracks instead (as we were all attacking and pinging the Ancient like madmen).To sum it up, I don't know whether this game will remain installed on my PC for much longer, even though I love it. It's so sad :/. | ||
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MavercK
Australia2181 Posts
i wanna die. either there is something extremely wrong with my MMR or im the unluckiest fucking piece of shit in the world. fucking so depressed. | ||
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writer22816
United States5775 Posts
Faceless void, Ench, Dazzle, QOP, Weaver Our lineup: Lycan (me), Invoker (friend), AM, VS, and Naix So much bullshit happened this game. The guy who's playing Naix picks last and decides to pick Naix despite the fact that we already have 2 carries, one of which is a jungler and hence we need 2 solos. We were scourge and VS decides to FUCKING SOLO TOP leaving Naix + AM bottom ON THE DANGEROUS LANE, just wtf? All 3 pubbies on our team proceed to feed like crazy, resulting in 2 towers lost and fed void + weaver before 10 minutes have even passed. I'm not so frustrated at the loss (you will inevitably lose games because of your teammates sucking, because Dota is a team game) but I'm just completely at a loss to explain how the 3 on our team could have been so stupid to form a lane combination like that. Seriously, I don't ever say this but PLEASE UNINSTALL DOTA. | ||
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Glurkenspurk
United States1915 Posts
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LAN-f34r
New Zealand2099 Posts
the 2: Chen who gets one point in creep, then maxes test and pentience. Lion who leaves lane to gank, then fails those ganks completely (meanwhile NS had to cover his lane to have it not get pushed) the 1: qop who decides its a good idea to jump into the middle of lina+leoric+puck alone. That game went... less than well | ||
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Kuzmorgo
Hungary1058 Posts
On April 27 2012 07:54 Asvhald wrote: This game is getting more idiotic to play by the hour... my biggest gripes: a) It seems that Dota 2 likes to punish you for playing with friends. If you premake and there is more or less a skill "gap" between members of the group, you are going to get screwed by matchmaking no matter what. It'll put you against 5 tryhards or enemies way out of the group's league. I was always curious what does tryhard mean actually? Because first I thought it means someone who tries his best to win, which in my opinion is always a commendable thing. But every time I see this word, it seems like its used in a negative meaning. So please explain it to me what do you mean by it, or why is trying hard a bad thing? | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
The truth is that "tryhard" is just a very silly insult, its just a label that losers put on the winners to help them feel better about getting owned. | ||
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Rynzser_r
275 Posts
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Grombidal
Sweden49 Posts
I find the term being very wierd because you should try your hardest to win the match/game, because that is what the goal is, to kill the opponents base before he kills yours. And to not go completly off topic. My QQ story begins with me solo queing Random draft as I always do, then finally after about a 10 min wait I get a game. My team picks Storm spirit, bloodseeker, Sand king,venomancer and me Shadow demon, so far so good. Opponents are Tidehunter, faceless void, Natures prophet, Lion and Dazzle. When the game starts the team chat gets filled with russian turns out SK,veno and Blood are all 3 russians. But unlike what most ppl seem to think these 3 russians were actually good. SK goes 10/0/6 (in the first 15 min), Veno also gets good stats (Sk and veno laned togheter seemd to be friends) and bloodseeker wins mid lane. So thanks to their lanes going good we get both mid raxes and bot raxes by around 25 min, So I think great this game is as good as won. I couldn't have been more wrong, because what the 3 russians do next is sell all their items and all 3 of them gets a Divine rapier. They then decide to get overly confident and procede to get killed thanks to mid T4 towers and not going in as a team but going in 1 by 1. So at 1 point natures prophet gets a hold of 2 of the 3 rapiers and ofc the next fight we lose big time thanks to SK,veno and blood having sold all their items. we actually manages to kill natures phrophet eventually but then faceless picks up the rapiers instead and with him already having a battlefury he completly rapes us in the next fight and then thats GG. TLDR: won game with 25 min mid and bot raxes down, gets lost because of russians getting divine rapiers and giving them to opponents carries. | ||
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Asvhald
Spain199 Posts
On April 27 2012 21:38 Kuzmorgo wrote: I was always curious what does tryhard mean actually? Because first I thought it means someone who tries his best to win, which in my opinion is always a commendable thing. But every time I see this word, it seems like its used in a negative meaning. So please explain it to me what do you mean by it, or why is trying hard a bad thing? I guess people use the word with several different meanings. My meaning wasn't directed at those who gank, push, etc... but to people, normally decent/good at the game, which abuse the most broken picks/strats in AP mode (never would go through in CM due to bans and such) and/or wait (the full team) as long as it takes to counterpick people who maybe just randomed or not picked the very best heroes. For example, one game I was playing with two or three friends. We get to hero selection, and they insta pick the following lineup (talking about 1.5-2 months ago): Invoker, Anti-Mage, Tidehunter, Prophet, Shadow Shaman, then proceed to talk shit about how much they owned you (took their 55 mins to win but npnp). I feel it as being quite the cheese, and disgusting, especially in AP. In this case, the word would mean "trying too hard as if it was a tournament game and being dicks about it" in an All Pick matchmaking game. | ||
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