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Hoban
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1600 Posts
April 27 2012 15:00 GMT
#721
This isn't Dota QQ but I consider this forum my favorite place on the internet so fuck it.

I work in a science lab and the project I am working on has a very stringent deadline. I am currently in the crunch time before that deadline, working about 14-16 hours a day for the last 9 days. 12 hours ago when I started my work, I was on track to finish by working 16 hours over the next 3 days (friday, saturday, sunday) and finish by my deadline, Monday at 9 am. Unfortunately, I flubbed the last step in an experiment which takes about 9 hours. So now my 16 hour day is at least a 30 hour day (Due to the order and timing of specific experiments). To top it off, I have 0 money until payday on the first and had been living off nothing but bell peppers and lunch meat for the last week. I drove home after my failure of an experiment to cool down a bit and pick up some food and the last bit of coffee beans in my fridge. On the way back to work, about 200ft from the parking lot, my car finally runs out of gas and dies. So now I am stuck at work until I get money on the first, I can't sleep for another 16 hours (and when I can, it will be head down on a desk in my office), and I have 3 bell peppers, a package of turkey meat, and whatever is in the fridge at work to last me to the 1st. My pride prevents me from taking handouts (fairly new at the job and I really really don't want to show signs of weakness).

But hey, I have a few clothes in my car, there is a shower here, I always pack a toothbrush, and the star series final is going on. There is a chance I can get a friend to get me gas so I can get home after monday but who knows. I will never complain about shitty match making or pubs ever again.
"I am a leaf on the wind."
Kuzmorgo
Profile Joined May 2009
Hungary1058 Posts
April 27 2012 15:00 GMT
#722
I hate fucking Lich... The hero doesn't even require any skill... Just use sacrifice on CD and spam Nova every now and then, and the enemy can be happy if they can stay in exp range.... And even then they will end up being underleveled due to sacrifice...
"No, whine not! Play, or play not! There is no whine."
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
April 27 2012 15:16 GMT
#723
On April 27 2012 21:38 Kuzmorgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2012 07:54 Asvhald wrote:
This game is getting more idiotic to play by the hour... my biggest gripes:

a) It seems that Dota 2 likes to punish you for playing with friends. If you premake and there is more or less a skill "gap" between members of the group, you are going to get screwed by matchmaking no matter what. It'll put you against 5 tryhards or enemies way out of the group's league.


I was always curious what does tryhard mean actually? Because first I thought it means someone who tries his best to win, which in my opinion is always a commendable thing. But every time I see this word, it seems like its used in a negative meaning. So please explain it to me what do you mean by it, or why is trying hard a bad thing?


Did you say that because you are new to the game or you are quite an elist to say the least. There are many things that we dont do in pub game because they are pub games, in contrast to scrim/cw/tourney.

for the obvious examples:
1.is there any random pick in AP? usually there is 1-3 people randomed at the start, tryhards last minute pick all the counter hero or gay dual laning or pick gay combos at start. they play the exact same heroes for 100 games and their sole purpose is just to win the game. obviously everyone wants to win game but tryhards are desperate and rage very hard if they lost. is a fcking pub game and non-tryhards just want to have some fun.

2.dust/antiward since min1. i dont really go ward to prevent pulling but when i see the oppo team has a distinct advantage in their line up and i want my carry to have a slightly better lane, i go ward. tryhards will deward immediately....you dont even see players in comp games deward that frequently. or like i once saw a dazzle who went dust the whole game because we have a sandking in team......

the bottomline is i hope everyone who do solo queue now understand that AP is a no go.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
April 27 2012 15:19 GMT
#724
On April 28 2012 00:00 Kuzmorgo wrote:
I hate fucking Lich... The hero doesn't even require any skill... Just use sacrifice on CD and spam Nova every now and then, and the enemy can be happy if they can stay in exp range.... And even then they will end up being underleveled due to sacrifice...


go solo mid do the old carry lich :3 you will kill nonstop after you get 6 and that requires some skills. and i think that 'underleveled' is quite exaggerating, it is not like you will get a one level exp difference lol
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
April 27 2012 15:58 GMT
#725
This new HUD is fucking awful as well as the new items icons.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Glurkenspurk
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1915 Posts
April 27 2012 16:00 GMT
#726
On April 28 2012 00:58 Grettin wrote:
This new HUD is fucking awful as well as the new items icons.


I wish I could just cut out all the rocks and shit. Even in sc2 it's annoying. I don't want a pulsating zerg ui or anything. I just want to see the game =(
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-27 16:04:24
April 27 2012 16:04 GMT
#727
Tryhard can also be picking heroes such as Lich/AM top, Invoker Mid, Furion Jungle WR solo side

Pushing lineups with Chen, Leshrac etc.

its mostly dewarding though
WriterXiao8~~
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
April 27 2012 18:49 GMT
#728
On April 28 2012 01:04 Kipsate wrote:
Tryhard can also be picking heroes such as Lich/AM top, Invoker Mid, Furion Jungle WR solo side

Pushing lineups with Chen, Leshrac etc.

its mostly dewarding though

How many times have we run AM-Lich?
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
fcgog
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom876 Posts
April 27 2012 19:29 GMT
#729
why do i always have a sniper on my team, hes so fucking bad
RoosterSamurai
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan2108 Posts
April 27 2012 19:36 GMT
#730
My internet took a shit and I got disconnected from a game briefly. I fixed the problem and reconnected to the game about a minute later, and our team won the game. I got back to the lobby and realized that it counted as a loss and an abandoned game.
TheRPGAddict
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1403 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-27 19:40:27
April 27 2012 19:38 GMT
#731
From my experience if you are playing with someone new from LoL as their only MOBA experience, you are going to have a horrible time and you can expect them to feed. Just last night I played a game with a former LoL'er new to DOTA and he died 10 times in the first 7 minutes and was level 8 by the 25 minute mark. I was playing Weaver and he was my lane partner. Wasn't a good game.
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-27 19:54:00
April 27 2012 19:52 GMT
#732
On April 27 2012 23:50 Asvhald wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2012 21:38 Kuzmorgo wrote:
On April 27 2012 07:54 Asvhald wrote:
This game is getting more idiotic to play by the hour... my biggest gripes:

a) It seems that Dota 2 likes to punish you for playing with friends. If you premake and there is more or less a skill "gap" between members of the group, you are going to get screwed by matchmaking no matter what. It'll put you against 5 tryhards or enemies way out of the group's league.


I was always curious what does tryhard mean actually? Because first I thought it means someone who tries his best to win, which in my opinion is always a commendable thing. But every time I see this word, it seems like its used in a negative meaning. So please explain it to me what do you mean by it, or why is trying hard a bad thing?


I guess people use the word with several different meanings. My meaning wasn't directed at those who gank, push, etc... but to people, normally decent/good at the game, which abuse the most broken picks/strats in AP mode (never would go through in CM due to bans and such) and/or wait (the full team) as long as it takes to counterpick people who maybe just randomed or not picked the very best heroes.

For example, one game I was playing with two or three friends. We get to hero selection, and they insta pick the following lineup (talking about 1.5-2 months ago): Invoker, Anti-Mage, Tidehunter, Prophet, Shadow Shaman, then proceed to talk shit about how much they owned you (took their 55 mins to win but npnp). I feel it as being quite the cheese, and disgusting, especially in AP.

In this case, the word would mean "trying too hard as if it was a tournament game and being dicks about it" in an All Pick matchmaking game.



Imo that's the only time the complaint is justified... when people in AP mode pick insane hero comps or lanes off the bat or after the other team picks. Everything else is silly. I LIKE when the enemy team dewards/dusts/smokes, it makes the game more dynamic and interesting.

I really wish there was something in between AP and CM. Something like a fast paced, but ordered, AP picking setup. Maybe something like each person gets to pick 1, ban 1, and their total turn can only take 15-30s.


Lol players tend to overestimate their safety. They aren't used to accurate skill shots, low survivability, and no flash.
Logo
Asvhald
Profile Joined April 2011
Spain199 Posts
April 27 2012 20:33 GMT
#733
On April 28 2012 04:52 Logo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2012 23:50 Asvhald wrote:
On April 27 2012 21:38 Kuzmorgo wrote:
On April 27 2012 07:54 Asvhald wrote:
This game is getting more idiotic to play by the hour... my biggest gripes:

a) It seems that Dota 2 likes to punish you for playing with friends. If you premake and there is more or less a skill "gap" between members of the group, you are going to get screwed by matchmaking no matter what. It'll put you against 5 tryhards or enemies way out of the group's league.


I was always curious what does tryhard mean actually? Because first I thought it means someone who tries his best to win, which in my opinion is always a commendable thing. But every time I see this word, it seems like its used in a negative meaning. So please explain it to me what do you mean by it, or why is trying hard a bad thing?


I guess people use the word with several different meanings. My meaning wasn't directed at those who gank, push, etc... but to people, normally decent/good at the game, which abuse the most broken picks/strats in AP mode (never would go through in CM due to bans and such) and/or wait (the full team) as long as it takes to counterpick people who maybe just randomed or not picked the very best heroes.

For example, one game I was playing with two or three friends. We get to hero selection, and they insta pick the following lineup (talking about 1.5-2 months ago): Invoker, Anti-Mage, Tidehunter, Prophet, Shadow Shaman, then proceed to talk shit about how much they owned you (took their 55 mins to win but npnp). I feel it as being quite the cheese, and disgusting, especially in AP.

In this case, the word would mean "trying too hard as if it was a tournament game and being dicks about it" in an All Pick matchmaking game.



Imo that's the only time the complaint is justified... when people in AP mode pick insane hero comps or lanes off the bat or after the other team picks. Everything else is silly. I LIKE when the enemy team dewards/dusts/smokes, it makes the game more dynamic and interesting.

I really wish there was something in between AP and CM. Something like a fast paced, but ordered, AP picking setup. Maybe something like each person gets to pick 1, ban 1, and their total turn can only take 15-30s.


Lol players tend to overestimate their safety. They aren't used to accurate skill shots, low survivability, and no flash.


Yeah that's it. I'm not angered by people playing the game well (warding, dewarding, ganking, using smoke...). I'm just annoyed with OP picks/counterpicks/various woes of AP mode, and with the absurd MMR "boost" that matchmaking has for premades which makes suicidal to play with friends when there's some skill gap between premade members, or the exaggerated MMR boost for 5-manning. I mean, I personally don't enjoy solo queuing, this game is made, IMHO, to play with your friends.

And about the game modes, yeah, I'd be all for an AP with 1 pick 1 ban each, even if it's everyone-at-once instead of turns, or a captain's draft (I think it's called like that... captain does the bans, then every one picks their hero following the normal CM turns).
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
April 27 2012 21:15 GMT
#734
On April 27 2012 21:34 Odal wrote:
I honestly would not care if brazil was hit by some natural disaster that would destroy their entire population. I would feel nothing

User was warned for this post


Oh well. I know the feeling. I want to pretty much kill everysingle Brazilian dota player (even tho I'm one of them. Not as bad, or at least I hope so) I used to run a professional team and I used to sign players from chile/Argentina just to avoid brazilians. So much bm and nonsense. I'm pretty happy that they got their own servers in dota2, haha.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
April 27 2012 21:43 GMT
#735
Oh come on, tryhard is such a terrible word used by bad people when they lose. Ofc a Dazzle will carry dust if you have a sk. He would be fucking bad if he doesnt have one. The thing that I hate the most in pub is people congratulating each other when they win but blaming the team whe they lose a fight in the same game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
April 27 2012 22:26 GMT
#736
How long does it take for someone to get banned? I asked someone if they were AFK because they were and then he decided to feed and constantly call me racial slurs.

Question 2: Why are you allowed to buy 15 couriers and why does the entire team benefit so much from killing one?
Never make a hydralisk.
Zhul
Profile Joined February 2010
Czech Republic430 Posts
April 27 2012 22:43 GMT
#737
On April 28 2012 00:00 Kuzmorgo wrote:
I hate fucking Lich... The hero doesn't even require any skill... Just use sacrifice on CD and spam Nova every now and then, and the enemy can be happy if they can stay in exp range.... And even then they will end up being underleveled due to sacrifice...

So true. Soloing against him is nightmare. You wont get levels and you will be constantly hit by nova. Luckily he is played as support most of the games on sidelane where you can gank him easily.
Zhul
Profile Joined February 2010
Czech Republic430 Posts
April 27 2012 22:46 GMT
#738
On April 28 2012 04:29 fcgog wrote:
why do i always have a sniper on my team, hes so fucking bad

Haha true story. I cant even imagine how can anyone enjoy playing him.
Kuzmorgo
Profile Joined May 2009
Hungary1058 Posts
April 27 2012 23:02 GMT
#739
On April 28 2012 04:52 Logo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2012 23:50 Asvhald wrote:
On April 27 2012 21:38 Kuzmorgo wrote:
On April 27 2012 07:54 Asvhald wrote:
This game is getting more idiotic to play by the hour... my biggest gripes:

a) It seems that Dota 2 likes to punish you for playing with friends. If you premake and there is more or less a skill "gap" between members of the group, you are going to get screwed by matchmaking no matter what. It'll put you against 5 tryhards or enemies way out of the group's league.


I was always curious what does tryhard mean actually? Because first I thought it means someone who tries his best to win, which in my opinion is always a commendable thing. But every time I see this word, it seems like its used in a negative meaning. So please explain it to me what do you mean by it, or why is trying hard a bad thing?


I guess people use the word with several different meanings. My meaning wasn't directed at those who gank, push, etc... but to people, normally decent/good at the game, which abuse the most broken picks/strats in AP mode (never would go through in CM due to bans and such) and/or wait (the full team) as long as it takes to counterpick people who maybe just randomed or not picked the very best heroes.

For example, one game I was playing with two or three friends. We get to hero selection, and they insta pick the following lineup (talking about 1.5-2 months ago): Invoker, Anti-Mage, Tidehunter, Prophet, Shadow Shaman, then proceed to talk shit about how much they owned you (took their 55 mins to win but npnp). I feel it as being quite the cheese, and disgusting, especially in AP.

In this case, the word would mean "trying too hard as if it was a tournament game and being dicks about it" in an All Pick matchmaking game.



Imo that's the only time the complaint is justified... when people in AP mode pick insane hero comps or lanes off the bat or after the other team picks. Everything else is silly. I LIKE when the enemy team dewards/dusts/smokes, it makes the game more dynamic and interesting.

I really wish there was something in between AP and CM. Something like a fast paced, but ordered, AP picking setup. Maybe something like each person gets to pick 1, ban 1, and their total turn can only take 15-30s.


Lol players tend to overestimate their safety. They aren't used to accurate skill shots, low survivability, and no flash.


I like Random Draft for that reason actually. And when the game goes live there will probably be enough players that you don't have to queue for AP, and still get a game in reasonable time.

Also, I hope that 5, and even 4 man stacks will get a different queue too (again, when the game will have enough players to support it). Other than that, its really unlikely that without prior discussion, the whole enemy team would pick a 5 man lineup that works perfectly together.
"No, whine not! Play, or play not! There is no whine."
Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-27 23:19:16
April 27 2012 23:16 GMT
#740
On April 28 2012 01:04 Kipsate wrote:
Tryhard can also be picking heroes such as Lich/AM top, Invoker Mid, Furion Jungle WR solo side

Pushing lineups with Chen, Leshrac etc.

its mostly dewarding though

When I get my paws on dota 2, I would really wanna try Synderen's pushing strat. Level 1 roshan, win in 12 minutes. Seems pretty hilarious.

Edit: I'm still using dota 1 lingo.
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