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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
October 18 2012 08:14 GMT
#3501
Dotabuff, why you no update!
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Talron
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany7651 Posts
October 18 2012 08:17 GMT
#3502
On October 18 2012 16:01 Canas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 13:08 xHQx wrote:
On October 16 2012 09:46 wcLLg wrote:
and an am who thinks he's good (got a quelling blade lul)

y thefuc not


This, pretty much. I'd even go as far as to say that if you don't go quelling blade on AM, you're doing something seriously fucking wrong. You literally speed up your farming rate by 32% once you get a bfury, for 225g. Why would anyone ever not get quelling blade on AM?

If youre going for the Treads, VG, Manta AM with the classic skillbuild, you don't really need a QB, but you will have a free itemslot anyway, so you might as well get it anyway, but it's not as mandatory as compared to when playing bfury AM.
EHOME 2010 never forget EHOME.GIGABYTE.AAA B-God In BurNing we trust BurNing your soul DK 2011-2014
Narcind
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2489 Posts
October 18 2012 08:32 GMT
#3503
On October 18 2012 17:17 Talron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 16:01 Canas wrote:
On October 18 2012 13:08 xHQx wrote:
On October 16 2012 09:46 wcLLg wrote:
and an am who thinks he's good (got a quelling blade lul)

y thefuc not


This, pretty much. I'd even go as far as to say that if you don't go quelling blade on AM, you're doing something seriously fucking wrong. You literally speed up your farming rate by 32% once you get a bfury, for 225g. Why would anyone ever not get quelling blade on AM?

If youre going for the Treads, VG, Manta AM with the classic skillbuild, you don't really need a QB, but you will have a free itemslot anyway, so you might as well get it anyway, but it's not as mandatory as compared to when playing bfury AM.


No one ever uses this itembuild on AM anymore though, as the only time it'd be better than a bfury build is when you're losing so hard that it doesn't matter what you get - you're going to lose either way.
Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-18 08:38:52
October 18 2012 08:33 GMT
#3504
This actually happened to the opposite team but I feel sorry for them so posting it anyway. They had two players with Russian names, both instantly random and get Chen and Enchantress. Game starts and only one of the enemy team shows up in lane, I thought they might be trying Rosh or have some really cheesy jungle strat.

However a few mins in the game a long line of couriers runs to our mid, and the two Russians keep feeding couriers to us for the entire game while rest of their team is actually trying. We still didn't have overly easy win since I was busy laughing at the situation and trying to gank the Chen/Enchantress on my Lich and our Warlock lost mid to Huskar pretty badly whom also killed me couple times. PA had completely free farm for the entire game though so that secured our win.

Makes me wonder at how low MMR am I playing exactly...

In other news I had a SF spamming "chick" for most of the early game even though the first thing I did with my start gold was buy a courier. PL proceeds to jungle for the entire game being up to 5 lvls higher than anyone else and not taking part in team fights.

Also playing with friends who just got the game can be pretty painful, I told my friend to stick with support and not to Pudge picks it regardless of that and goes 2-24. I'm pretty rageproof but I do start making annoying remarks when shit like this happens.

And I personally have dumb habit of trying to save people when they're most likely dead and I will most likely die if I try to save them...
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-18 10:37:53
October 18 2012 08:48 GMT
#3505
FUCK THIS SHIT SERIOUSLY
I play TA mid vs nightstalker. Of course I start to rape him. But for some fucking reason after 5 minutes phantom assassin (in my team) says "I feed" and proceeds to die on purpose and feed courriers...
Is there a way I can make sure this fucker gets banned other than reporting him?

edit: AND FUCKING GREAT NOW I GET A LEAVE BECAUSE DOTA THOUGHT I WAS AFK WHILE WRITING THIS POST.

nick of this asshole: AfterComa http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198070601074/games?tab=recent
Talron
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany7651 Posts
October 18 2012 08:58 GMT
#3506
On October 18 2012 17:32 Canas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 17:17 Talron wrote:
On October 18 2012 16:01 Canas wrote:
On October 18 2012 13:08 xHQx wrote:
On October 16 2012 09:46 wcLLg wrote:
and an am who thinks he's good (got a quelling blade lul)

y thefuc not


This, pretty much. I'd even go as far as to say that if you don't go quelling blade on AM, you're doing something seriously fucking wrong. You literally speed up your farming rate by 32% once you get a bfury, for 225g. Why would anyone ever not get quelling blade on AM?

If youre going for the Treads, VG, Manta AM with the classic skillbuild, you don't really need a QB, but you will have a free itemslot anyway, so you might as well get it anyway, but it's not as mandatory as compared to when playing bfury AM.


No one ever uses this itembuild on AM anymore though, as the only time it'd be better than a bfury build is when you're losing so hard that it doesn't matter what you get - you're going to lose either way.

As rarely as I play AM, I still prefer it, but only because I think AM is boring enough to play already, so no need to farm for 30 minutes straight and then just seeing everyone of your enemies drop for the next 5 minutes and then win the game. No fun imo. Bfury will be superior in 9/10 cases I know, but I just dont like it, because it's no fun.
EHOME 2010 never forget EHOME.GIGABYTE.AAA B-God In BurNing we trust BurNing your soul DK 2011-2014
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-18 09:41:27
October 18 2012 09:38 GMT
#3507
And now I'm in low priority queue because of this game... wtf :s. (i got two left games).

The ID of the game where the guy fed is 50610500. If you have time I would really appreciate if you would watch this game quickly (to make sure he is feeding) and report the guy.
Crytash
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany251 Posts
October 18 2012 09:53 GMT
#3508
Tbh, against a rikimaru the block and additional hp micht come handy. People who dont react accordingly and try to make standart Am builds against a rikimaru will feed. Especially, becouse their BFs will be late anyway.
Words are small, but game is BIG
Prime`Rib
Profile Joined September 2010
United States613 Posts
October 18 2012 09:59 GMT
#3509
So this game, we got this jackass picking Naix as last pick. We told him to stay the fuck away from the pull so we can double stack and pull. Of course, he walked right into the pull and pulled 3 times. CK as the other side hard lane just hug the tower and got massive exp and level. Then mid call pudge mia, the guy dont give a fuck, got ganked by pudge. Disconnect and then abandon. FUCK YOU , REDSHAPE57. YOU FUCKING POS I HOPE ALL YOUR KIDS WILL GROW A FUCKING PENIS ON THE FOREHEAD AND SUCK DICK FOR LIVING. FUCK YOU FUCK YOU.
... funerals are insane, the chicks are so horny, its not even fair, its like fishing with dynamite ...
lazyitachi
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
1043 Posts
October 18 2012 10:00 GMT
#3510
On October 18 2012 17:48 Jetaap wrote:
FUCK THIS SHIT SERIOUSLY
I play TA mid vs nightstalker. Of course I start to rape him. But for some fucking reason after 5 minutes phantom lancer (in my team) says "I feed" and proceeds to die on purpose and feed courriers...
Is there a way I can make sure this fucker gets banned other that reporting him?

edit: AND FUCKING GREAT NOW I GET A LEAVE BECAUSE DOTA THOUGHT I WAS AFK WHILE WRITING THIS POST.

nick of this asshole: AfterComa http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198070601074/games?tab=recent


You must be pretty mad if you take over 5 mins to write this shizzle..
Talron
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany7651 Posts
October 18 2012 10:30 GMT
#3511
On October 18 2012 18:59 Prime`Rib wrote:
So this game, we got this jackass picking Naix as last pick. We told him to stay the fuck away from the pull so we can double stack and pull. Of course, he walked right into the pull and pulled 3 times. CK as the other side hard lane just hug the tower and got massive exp and level. Then mid call pudge mia, the guy dont give a fuck, got ganked by pudge. Disconnect and then abandon. FUCK YOU , REDSHAPE57. YOU FUCKING POS I HOPE ALL YOUR KIDS WILL GROW A FUCKING PENIS ON THE FOREHEAD AND SUCK DICK FOR LIVING. FUCK YOU FUCK YOU.

I bursted out laughing reading this. I am sorry, I really know that feel and I really feel with you, but this part is priceless.
EHOME 2010 never forget EHOME.GIGABYTE.AAA B-God In BurNing we trust BurNing your soul DK 2011-2014
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
October 18 2012 10:36 GMT
#3512
On October 18 2012 19:00 lazyitachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 17:48 Jetaap wrote:
FUCK THIS SHIT SERIOUSLY
I play TA mid vs nightstalker. Of course I start to rape him. But for some fucking reason after 5 minutes phantom lancer (in my team) says "I feed" and proceeds to die on purpose and feed courriers...
Is there a way I can make sure this fucker gets banned other that reporting him?

edit: AND FUCKING GREAT NOW I GET A LEAVE BECAUSE DOTA THOUGHT I WAS AFK WHILE WRITING THIS POST.

nick of this asshole: AfterComa http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198070601074/games?tab=recent


You must be pretty mad if you take over 5 mins to write this shizzle..


Well I was using meld in the middle of 4 ennemies hoping for them to move away (one can hope). So i stayed maybe 2 min not moving this while watching PA feed. Then I was dead, respawned, PA continues feeding (0-7, buys courriers to send them to the opposing team), I go on TL write this post and when I come back I'm disconnected from the game.
I know this is a shit post, but this is the DotaQQ thread, one should not expect its post to be some great literature ^^.
And yes, it's the first time I encounter a guy like that in dota2, and it happens when I'm doing well mid, that's really frustrating.
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4166 Posts
October 18 2012 11:58 GMT
#3513
On October 18 2012 17:58 Talron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 17:32 Canas wrote:
On October 18 2012 17:17 Talron wrote:
On October 18 2012 16:01 Canas wrote:
On October 18 2012 13:08 xHQx wrote:
On October 16 2012 09:46 wcLLg wrote:
and an am who thinks he's good (got a quelling blade lul)

y thefuc not


This, pretty much. I'd even go as far as to say that if you don't go quelling blade on AM, you're doing something seriously fucking wrong. You literally speed up your farming rate by 32% once you get a bfury, for 225g. Why would anyone ever not get quelling blade on AM?

If youre going for the Treads, VG, Manta AM with the classic skillbuild, you don't really need a QB, but you will have a free itemslot anyway, so you might as well get it anyway, but it's not as mandatory as compared to when playing bfury AM.


No one ever uses this itembuild on AM anymore though, as the only time it'd be better than a bfury build is when you're losing so hard that it doesn't matter what you get - you're going to lose either way.

As rarely as I play AM, I still prefer it, but only because I think AM is boring enough to play already, so no need to farm for 30 minutes straight and then just seeing everyone of your enemies drop for the next 5 minutes and then win the game. No fun imo. Bfury will be superior in 9/10 cases I know, but I just dont like it, because it's no fun.


Sorry for the offtopic question, but I did not play Dota for a long time, is AM the hardest carry when farm? I mean no other hero can match him at late stage at all?
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
Talron
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany7651 Posts
October 18 2012 12:14 GMT
#3514
On October 18 2012 20:58 M2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 17:58 Talron wrote:
On October 18 2012 17:32 Canas wrote:
On October 18 2012 17:17 Talron wrote:
On October 18 2012 16:01 Canas wrote:
On October 18 2012 13:08 xHQx wrote:
On October 16 2012 09:46 wcLLg wrote:
and an am who thinks he's good (got a quelling blade lul)

y thefuc not


This, pretty much. I'd even go as far as to say that if you don't go quelling blade on AM, you're doing something seriously fucking wrong. You literally speed up your farming rate by 32% once you get a bfury, for 225g. Why would anyone ever not get quelling blade on AM?

If youre going for the Treads, VG, Manta AM with the classic skillbuild, you don't really need a QB, but you will have a free itemslot anyway, so you might as well get it anyway, but it's not as mandatory as compared to when playing bfury AM.


No one ever uses this itembuild on AM anymore though, as the only time it'd be better than a bfury build is when you're losing so hard that it doesn't matter what you get - you're going to lose either way.

As rarely as I play AM, I still prefer it, but only because I think AM is boring enough to play already, so no need to farm for 30 minutes straight and then just seeing everyone of your enemies drop for the next 5 minutes and then win the game. No fun imo. Bfury will be superior in 9/10 cases I know, but I just dont like it, because it's no fun.


Sorry for the offtopic question, but I did not play Dota for a long time, is AM the hardest carry when farm? I mean no other hero can match him at late stage at all?

No. Full inventory Void and a 12 itemslot Sylla obviously - You won't see the latter. Not sure about how strong 6.75 TB is, but he might be another canidate for ridiculous lategame carry. Despite his nerf's Morph with full items still has ridiculous DPS and replicate would screw AM over anyway.
Also as seen in EG vs. SQL a SF can also stand up against a fully stacked AM in lategame. Full inventory Dusa & Spec in lategame, despite never seen these days are still scary due to their survivability and aoedmg they dish out, but they excel way better in teamfight, than in killing heroes one after another. This all just theorycrafting. In an actual match for example the game will already be over before dusa becomes even relevant, unless you're ZSMJ.
EHOME 2010 never forget EHOME.GIGABYTE.AAA B-God In BurNing we trust BurNing your soul DK 2011-2014
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4166 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-18 12:18:49
October 18 2012 12:18 GMT
#3515
On October 18 2012 21:14 Talron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 20:58 M2 wrote:
On October 18 2012 17:58 Talron wrote:
On October 18 2012 17:32 Canas wrote:
On October 18 2012 17:17 Talron wrote:
On October 18 2012 16:01 Canas wrote:
On October 18 2012 13:08 xHQx wrote:
On October 16 2012 09:46 wcLLg wrote:
and an am who thinks he's good (got a quelling blade lul)

y thefuc not


This, pretty much. I'd even go as far as to say that if you don't go quelling blade on AM, you're doing something seriously fucking wrong. You literally speed up your farming rate by 32% once you get a bfury, for 225g. Why would anyone ever not get quelling blade on AM?

If youre going for the Treads, VG, Manta AM with the classic skillbuild, you don't really need a QB, but you will have a free itemslot anyway, so you might as well get it anyway, but it's not as mandatory as compared to when playing bfury AM.


No one ever uses this itembuild on AM anymore though, as the only time it'd be better than a bfury build is when you're losing so hard that it doesn't matter what you get - you're going to lose either way.

As rarely as I play AM, I still prefer it, but only because I think AM is boring enough to play already, so no need to farm for 30 minutes straight and then just seeing everyone of your enemies drop for the next 5 minutes and then win the game. No fun imo. Bfury will be superior in 9/10 cases I know, but I just dont like it, because it's no fun.


Sorry for the offtopic question, but I did not play Dota for a long time, is AM the hardest carry when farm? I mean no other hero can match him at late stage at all?

No. Full inventory Void and a 12 itemslot Sylla obviously - You won't see the latter. Not sure about how strong 6.75 TB is, but he might be another canidate for ridiculous lategame carry. Despite his nerf's Morph with full items still has ridiculous DPS and replicate would screw AM over anyway.
Also as seen in EG vs. SQL a SF can also stand up against a fully stacked AM in lategame. Full inventory Dusa & Spec in lategame, despite never seen these days are still scary due to their survivability and aoedmg they dish out, but they excel way better in teamfight, than in killing heroes one after another. This all just theorycrafting. In an actual match for example the game will already be over before dusa becomes even relevant, unless you're ZSMJ.


Thats what I thought, Dota should have not changed so much that a single hero stands superior to the others, however, I see only AM complains and this got me wondering

thanks
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
Narcind
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2489 Posts
October 18 2012 12:24 GMT
#3516
On October 18 2012 20:58 M2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 17:58 Talron wrote:
On October 18 2012 17:32 Canas wrote:
On October 18 2012 17:17 Talron wrote:
On October 18 2012 16:01 Canas wrote:
On October 18 2012 13:08 xHQx wrote:
On October 16 2012 09:46 wcLLg wrote:
and an am who thinks he's good (got a quelling blade lul)

y thefuc not


This, pretty much. I'd even go as far as to say that if you don't go quelling blade on AM, you're doing something seriously fucking wrong. You literally speed up your farming rate by 32% once you get a bfury, for 225g. Why would anyone ever not get quelling blade on AM?

If youre going for the Treads, VG, Manta AM with the classic skillbuild, you don't really need a QB, but you will have a free itemslot anyway, so you might as well get it anyway, but it's not as mandatory as compared to when playing bfury AM.


No one ever uses this itembuild on AM anymore though, as the only time it'd be better than a bfury build is when you're losing so hard that it doesn't matter what you get - you're going to lose either way.

As rarely as I play AM, I still prefer it, but only because I think AM is boring enough to play already, so no need to farm for 30 minutes straight and then just seeing everyone of your enemies drop for the next 5 minutes and then win the game. No fun imo. Bfury will be superior in 9/10 cases I know, but I just dont like it, because it's no fun.


Sorry for the offtopic question, but I did not play Dota for a long time, is AM the hardest carry when farm? I mean no other hero can match him at late stage at all?


AM has never been the hardest carry with full items, the reason he's such an incredibly good carry is because he's very hard to kill and the rate he farms at is so ridiculous that it's not that uncommon to see him with a full inventory of items around 35 minutes, which is much, much quicker than what any other carry could ever hope.

Assuming full item slots on both heroes however, there are plenty of heroes that just completely rip AM apart.
Talron
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany7651 Posts
October 18 2012 12:39 GMT
#3517
The AM compliants are justified imo, because that hero just is so horrendously stupid to deal with. There's a reason why he's called "Antifun" by so many people.
A 5 sec CD blink with just 50 manacost, getting additional 50% magic resistance, burns your mana and adds a big nuke with that afterwards and has above average movement speed to all this. His natural itemchoice is manta, which increases his MS even more and also manaburn is working with illus. And after manta silencing him isn't that much of an option anymore to keep him from getting away, so you need tons of hard disables - which is void is a popular pick vs AM. And by the time you've finally catched up with him, his blink is ready again anyway. With his blink and his other natural itemchoice of bfury he's just farming one half of the map on his own, like a furion, but he still is a real carry.

Pyrion Flax did a good video on why AM is hated so much:
+ Show Spoiler +


Note this is not even offtopic, just my daily QQ about AM. Hope that dickhero burns in hell.
EHOME 2010 never forget EHOME.GIGABYTE.AAA B-God In BurNing we trust BurNing your soul DK 2011-2014
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
October 18 2012 13:14 GMT
#3518
I had a few solo high skill game so i am not that thrash with 800+ game and %51~ W/L.

So I got a russian player who crying for mid with veno despite the fact that we have a TA on out team. TA is on drugs i think and give solo to veno against SF. SF demolish veno and double his gold gain. TA is decent but couldn't help because opponent team is 10 times better than us.

This is just one of the 4 games that I lost in a row last night with russians and noobs.
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
October 18 2012 13:22 GMT
#3519
For other topics, AM farm rate is retarded if you can complete BF around 14 min mark and clear all the creeps and jungle in a minute. Also add 5 sec blink with no mana cost, mana burn and his ulti. He is just a one man combo.
If he can get farm around 25 min mark he is unstoppable.

Void will destroy him if he gets full 6 slots items(what like 40-50 min mark?) thanks to bash and chrono. But FV couldn't farm as fast as AM so someone needs to stop AM to let FV on par.

New PL is also a good pick against AM. But you need a good team with good disables to stop AM.
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
Yacobs
Profile Joined March 2010
United States846 Posts
October 18 2012 13:41 GMT
#3520
On my team a duo picks Slardar and Lina. 15 minutes in, I click on Slardar and see all he has is a Stout Shield and an Urn. Not even boots. I ask him "The hell is going on?" He writes back, "I bought a bottle for Lina at the beginning."

...

I ask him, in so many words, how he could be so stupid. He responds, "It's a valid strategy if you're playing support Slardar."

.................
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