On October 16 2012 07:56 Fumanchu wrote: So I'm rhasta mid and morph bot wants my help. So level 6 I gank bot, plop down wards, voodoo one, shackle the other. Morph proceeds to get both kills, sweet right?
Two seconds later morph all talk:
"ROFL noob rhasta tries to steal my kills kk I farm now bye"
Morph stays in the forest the whole game, never comes out to help. When anyone tries to speak to him, he responds with, "ask noob rhasta why I'm not playing".
Honestly, if your balls haven't dropped yet, you shouldn't be allowed on the internet.
I found this one pretty funny, especially cause if you didn't do at least one of those things he would die and say "noob rasta's fault I died". How can he even complain... lol there's this need to blame others in people, even when you get a double kill apparently.
Had Lifestealer that got ganked in jungle 2x, both times I was morph oom at about 30% hp. First time I ran towards him but only got there when full hp and mana TA was 1-2 hits away from killing him, so I backed off => noob morph is useless got me killed. Second time I was at the bottom tower, he gets ganked by TA who used inivis rune to get to him, I run almost as soon as he gets attacked, only manage to get half way there when he dies => "wow this morph is so bad and useless, got me killed again, im not helping this noob anymore". wtf am I supposed to magically tp to him? Oh he also died to creeps while jungling but surprisingly he couldn't find a way to blame me for that one. Fortunately our Kunka was pretty good and kept the team together (prevented more in-team fighting) and we won, with me finishing 15-0-9, but apparently i'm useless and bad because I refuse to suicide
1st game I played with a buddy, we stomp. 2nd games is where the qq comes in. I pick doom cuz y thefuc not. Go bot cuz y the fuc not. 0-13 lich. game was good. Get outlaned by a solo invoker against me and an am who thinks he's good (got a quelling blade lul). Lich continues getting raped. Buddy's storm spirit is pretty good (had a good ratio while getting ks'd by some faggety rubick that decided to go mid despite storm already being there and rubick can dual lane just fine but storm is always solo typically). They push. Am doesn't come back from the enemy jungle to defend after farming all game. Gg
On October 15 2012 19:45 rob.au wrote: I don't mind random pubs going mid but it sure is frustrating when that random pub who calls mid happens to be the 48% win rate super low rated player that matchmaking decided to put on both teams. You don't realize you got matched with them until you wonder why they were abnormally bad.
The other thing pissing me off lately is people picking drow ranger. I don't even understand the appeal of this hero...definitely dont complain in chat if you pick drow and lose. What do you expect? hero is complete trash, especially in pubs. She doesn't even have the fun factor of other trash heroes..
lul
last time i picked her i got flamed for going midas. and then when i carried all the faggots on my team they were talking to me like they were friendly and i said, 'now they on my dick.'
But, she's viable in pubs like all other heros are.
Actually last time i picked i her i went solo mid and tranquil boots. owned
On October 16 2012 07:39 GentleDrill wrote: I don't know what the fuck has happened.
A bit more than a week ago, I was reading the posts in this thread and feeling a bit confused. Reason being that most of my games up to that point had been reasonable, and for about 3-4 days straight I actually had really positive games. People who communicated, willingly picked support, did their best in any situation, and were generally just friendly and fun.
But then roll on about 3 days ago and suddenly everything changes. I'm pretty sure literally every single game I've played has been completely ruined by total, blatant shitheads. A list of the worst:
Two (yes two) Crystal Maidens who autoattacked the creep wave the entire laning phase, even using their nuke on it, and replying to constant pleas not to do so and explanations of why with gems such as "So?"
A Templar Assassin (whom I was supporting as Veno) who autoattacked the creeps, then when I told him not to, went and did constant single pulls, never farming the lane again because it was constantly pushed. Didn't say a word all game.
A Shadow Fiend who, when I was playing Disruptor and saw their Earthshaker walking into our jungle at level 1, failed to come and claim the free kill at all despite my desperate pinging, resulting in my death, and then gets immediately ganked by the same Earthshaker. And, of course, feeds the rest of the game and complains about it.
A Sand King who autoattacked the creeps (noticing a pattern here?) when I was PA, even levelling Caustic Finale just to fuck me up even more, then complained when I didn't follow up his random Burrowstrikes despite the fact that I hadn't levelled Blink yet because I had to take an early level of Blur because of constant harrass from the enemy Razor (maybe this was a mistake from me, I don't know, but at least the rest of the team seemed to hate him rather than me for a change, also we somehow won this game because SK was apparently much better at ganking than at laning).
A Naga Siren game where I get harrassed and denied like crazy at early levels because we had a double melee lane (ES supporting) against Nyx Venge, then eventually I'm just abandoned by myself to get dived and ganked constantly because top was apparently getting fucked up so hard by the CM who was autoattacking the creeps for the benefit of our Chaos Knight (I mentioned her above). Then later our Invoker says to uninstall Dota because I only have a fucking Vanguard and a Drum about 25 minutes in thanks to the awesome, awesome farm I got. Were these even good choices? I don't know, but I've read that Drum is a very cost-efficient item for when you're behind so I got it, and I got the Vanguard because fuck it I'm bad and I don't know what's meant to be better even though everyone on TL seems to hate Vanguard these days. Point is, I'd gladly take some proper advice because I know I'm shit at this game, but all he does it run the tired "uninstall dota" line then insult me in fucking russian because he has no better argument.
Most common themes include people knowing no basics of the game (as you can see from the instances of "autoattacking creeps"), and blaming me when I have no farm as a carry after supports fucked up the lanes in blatant ways. I just don't get it. I honestly don't care if somebody is simply bad at the game. I'm fucking bad at the game. You could have the worst mechanics in the world and I wouldn't get mad because that shit happens. But know some basic stuff, please! And just try to consider other people.
I like this game. I think it's clearly, provably better than LoL. But I'm just going to have to go back if this keeps up. After seeing this I really have to say that I think LoL's playerbase is just better. I spent over a year playing it and I saw about as much bullshit in that time as I've seen in the last week playing Dota2. I know people say to play with friends, or to play strong semi-carry mid laners who can control a game if you must solo, but I've been forced into playing support so much that I'm afraid to even play mid now for fear I'll fuck it up completely and actually ruin a game myself. Hell, playing support has led to the only two rewarding experiences in the last few days, a WD game and a Lina game where I just went full-on ward bitch mode and people on our team actually thanked me for it (we lost both, such is life). I don't even want to play with friends at this point because it just results in subjecting them to the same horrendous people.
I feel for you. I have next to no LoL experience, but from my own experience and what I heard I think that Dota players try harder to win(been told) and when they fail to perform as good as they want, they realize they´re not as good as they think and consequently get bitter about it and lash out. That or Dota randomly can turn you into an asshole.
I just witnessed the biggest griefer in DotA history. Note: He was my enemy, but yet people like him make me mad, because next time he might be my teammate.
What happened was: He was necro and wanted to go mid, but appearantly his other teammate called mid at the same time. both being stubborn, so it ends up being a dual lane mid. Necro proceeds to feed intentionally for the rest of the game, being 0-8 after just 5 minutes, feeding the courier and making fun of his team. Someone said, that if such behaviour is shown multiple times by the same person, he can even get banned from beta in general. Someone know something about that? I don't belive it actually.
So just finished a game where this lifestealer, who swore he has been playing Dota for over 12 years, decided that it the game to be a dick all because our omni had gotten firstblooded and I, as a death prophet, did not go all the way top to gank a tri-lane by my self.
I get alch, friend gets wisp, so we decide to lane together. Venge has different ideas, when she says she wants to ward to bot, she ignores any suggestion of warding then going top, even though there is plenty of time. She then proceeds to give first blood, and second. This of course gets me killed as well. At which point tinker starts blaming me. "Picks alch and feeds like hell".
Also, they complain about my no-stun build (It wouldn't have helped in that lane, and not getting it meant I could potentially farm enough), when venge maxes wave>aura with one point in stun.
On October 15 2012 21:19 aliquis wrote: Wow i just had the worst dota2 experience of my life, i think.
After a few minutes a Tinker decided to dive in the bot tier2 tower where two enemy heroes where hiding behind the trees and died. He blamed me for not following him(i was a kunkka with low life and no mp) and what after that followed a 40 min long game where he was not only blaming everything that went wrong on me but was insulting me personally very much too.
I tried to argue with him, but all i ever got were insults, finally when we lost the game i told him i would report him for constant personal insulting and he said i shouldnt be such a crybaby and insulting is part of the game.
Am i really wrong to think that even in the internet there should be at least a little bit of respect for the others ?
seems to me that he's the crybaby. yes, if all they can throw are insults and no reasonable explanation, just mute them or say, "Stop trying to justify yourself when it was your fault you died trying to dive when i was going back with low HP." Then mute them.
Also about the respect in dota, if every player thinks they are the best in the world and that all the other teammates and opposing teams are trash, what room is there for respect in their self-centered, dunning kruger heads? None because they feel they should not respect these so called, "lower players or noobs".
On October 15 2012 21:19 aliquis wrote: Wow i just had the worst dota2 experience of my life, i think.
After a few minutes a Tinker decided to dive in the bot tier2 tower where two enemy heroes where hiding behind the trees and died. He blamed me for not following him(i was a kunkka with low life and no mp) and what after that followed a 40 min long game where he was not only blaming everything that went wrong on me but was insulting me personally very much too.
I tried to argue with him, but all i ever got were insults, finally when we lost the game i told him i would report him for constant personal insulting and he said i shouldnt be such a crybaby and insulting is part of the game.
Am i really wrong to think that even in the internet there should be at least a little bit of respect for the others ?
seems to me that he's the crybaby. yes, if all they can throw are insults and no reasonable explanation, just mute them or say, "Stop trying to justify yourself when it was your fault you died trying to dive when i was going back with low HP." Then mute them.
Also about the respect in dota, if every player thinks they are the best in the world and that all the other teammates and opposing teams are trash, what room is there for respect in their self-centered, dunning kruger heads? None because they feel they should not respect these so called, "lower players or noobs".
dammit, my brother always leaves his account logged in.. that was not jpak, that was me.
Also about the respect in dota, if every player thinks they are the best in the world and that all the other teammates and opposing teams are trash, what room is there for respect in their self-centered, dunning kruger heads? None because they feel they should not respect these so called, "lower players or noobs".
Well, what do you do when you are lasthitting in lane in the first few minutes of the game and suddenly a random baddie starts pushing the lane and nuking the creeps. These players need to fucking learn how to play the game.
On October 15 2012 19:58 tyner wrote: Supports who get agha, refresher and other luxury items are starting to piss me off so much. It's worse than a 5-carry team. Got lots of farm with Pugna or Zeus? Time to get Agha. AM destroying your team? Get a lothars. Picked Furion? Time for dagon 5!
mid telling us what a lowly 'support' should have done as to not pissed you off in these scenario ?
Got lots of farm with Pugna or Zeus? (buy 4200 gold worth of wards?) AM destroying your team? (a sheepstick would be better but it's twice the price of a lothars) Furion Dagon 5? (I've seen worse)
he probably means that they don't buy wards/dust/etc, get last hits, that kinda thing. As a support player I never get enough money for a refresher orb unless it's a super long game
Random Doom, yay sweet, call out top. Mirana pick after me, also going top, tells me that he's supposed to get the farm, not Doom. No, his pick did not fuck our team over, how dare we think that.
Also about the respect in dota, if every player thinks they are the best in the world and that all the other teammates and opposing teams are trash, what room is there for respect in their self-centered, dunning kruger heads? None because they feel they should not respect these so called, "lower players or noobs".
Well, what do you do when you are lasthitting in lane in the first few minutes of the game and suddenly a random baddie starts pushing the lane and nuking the creeps. These players need to fucking learn how to play the game.
You explain in the most friendly tone what they should be doing differently, not jump on the "Im a god at DOTA and you should do what I say" band wagon and proceed to rip them a new one for something as trivial as that.
My team engages the other team in our woods. The other team has a Witch Doctor, I go from behind them to flank them and Tiny is following me. I just know WD is gonna cask me and he does, but while it's on transit to hit me Tiny stands RIGHT BESIDE ME (We were on a ramp so I decided to press on, hoping Tiny would back off but nope, since I'm ahead of him), causing us both to get perma stunned by it, and then we get hit by Kunkkas ult. Thankfully we didn't die and we still won the fight and ultimately the game. I was disabled for so long that I couldn't use my ult.
However I had to give Tiny shit for that, and he denied any blame. In fact he told me it was more my fault because "I didn't try to run away from him" even though I had two directions, towards him, or away from him on a very linear path. Little things like that really piss me off.
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