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MotherOfRunes
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2862 Posts
August 21 2012 15:38 GMT
#2341
On August 21 2012 19:26 righthand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 09:37 gwaihir wrote:
On August 21 2012 07:35 righthand wrote:
With TA I used to have 7-0 and now it's 7-4
wtf Valve keeps giving me shitty player who always pick carry.

while you picked a carry yourself....you are not better than them imo ^^...and dont come with "BUT I PICKED FIRST OMFG"



Are you kidding for calling TA as a carry?

ok for you "mr. precise" SEMI-carry....i just dont bother to put a semi infront everytime...she is a mid game carry with high ganking potential...but still carryish....you just search for excuses...."i am not as bad as the 4 carry pickers since i only pick semi carries"
"Your Razor sucks!" -Kuroky's Dad
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
August 21 2012 15:58 GMT
#2342
On August 21 2012 23:58 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 19:34 Dead9 wrote:
On August 21 2012 19:08 cost2010 wrote:
On August 14 2012 17:11 Bergys wrote:
Everyone starts in normal. People who are better advance through it. I don't even see how this is possible to argue about.

It is not inconceivable that the skill level you need to function in a higher bracket is lower than the skill level required to break out of the lower bracket.

if you aren't significantly better than your skill bracket it might take a while, but with enough games it should equalize

this is assuming the method in which skill brackets are determined and the method in which one moves between them is perfect, which you can easily argue is impossible.

as long as the system is reasonable and consistent it doesn't matter
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
August 21 2012 16:01 GMT
#2343
wtb concede and remake. so retarded when ppl dc/crash at the start and the game turns into 4v5.

also wtb matchmaking that semi works like the crappy one in hon.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
August 21 2012 17:17 GMT
#2344
On August 22 2012 00:58 Dead9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 23:58 PrinceXizor wrote:
On August 21 2012 19:34 Dead9 wrote:
On August 21 2012 19:08 cost2010 wrote:
On August 14 2012 17:11 Bergys wrote:
Everyone starts in normal. People who are better advance through it. I don't even see how this is possible to argue about.

It is not inconceivable that the skill level you need to function in a higher bracket is lower than the skill level required to break out of the lower bracket.

if you aren't significantly better than your skill bracket it might take a while, but with enough games it should equalize

this is assuming the method in which skill brackets are determined and the method in which one moves between them is perfect, which you can easily argue is impossible.

as long as the system is reasonable and consistent it doesn't matter

a system can have an upward bias or a downward bias and still be consistent.

in an upward biased system you would be able to get to brackets you were unqualified for and it takes much longer to drop, and downward bias you get to where you fit in but drop rapidly below where you belong.
pyro19
Profile Joined August 2010
6575 Posts
August 21 2012 18:01 GMT
#2345
I'm so fking mad at my PC right now
was in an Intense 64 min game...They had our mid raxes down...While having all of their T3 remaining..
Our Team ;- Viper(me),Invoker,Disruptor,Riki,Sandking
Oppo Team - Drow,Axe,Bane,Warlock,Enigma

I call mid , Invoker says he should mid..Entire Team agrees...So i go bot against Bane and Axe...Game starts lagging so i have to reconnect...My Asshole teammates start game without me and by the time i reconnect their all level 5 or 6 while I'm level 2....While the Invoker farms the whole time while I'm getting Raped at bot (Calls himself a support Invoker soloing mid)

I have a score of 0/7/3 by the 20th min...Then some nice Teamfights occur...SK and Me start to get Fat...I have my manta style and and 1000 Gold short of Heart...we have them pinned in their base , have just teamwiped them and I suddenly press the windows button on the Keyboard instead of Ctrl

Cue Windows XP stutter , minimise , come to desktop , freeze , open a new window , freeze..
I alt tab Dota 2
Black Screen , Dota 2 Freeze , Dota 2 quit..
I restart , reconnect and get an Abandon...

I wanna break this shit.

Thy Shall Die Alone...or emm..something like that.
Asvhald
Profile Joined April 2011
Spain199 Posts
August 21 2012 18:16 GMT
#2346
On August 22 2012 01:01 aintz wrote:
wtb concede and remake. so retarded when ppl dc/crash at the start and the game turns into 4v5.

also wtb matchmaking that semi works like the crappy one in hon.


As it is, you can have that, sort of. I wasn't aware of it till a couple of days ago that a buddy told me and I checked that, to my surprise, it was true.

The thing is, if you abandon a game in the first 5 minutes or so (I don't know the exact time limit) and no one has died yet, you don't get an abandon and the game does not count (as if you had never played it).

It's quite useful for when you start 4v5 or your team starts flaming each other right from the picks screen.
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
August 21 2012 18:21 GMT
#2347
On August 22 2012 03:01 pyro19 wrote:
I'm so fking mad at my PC right now
was in an Intense 64 min game...They had our mid raxes down...While having all of their T3 remaining..
Our Team ;- Viper(me),Invoker,Disruptor,Riki,Sandking
Oppo Team - Drow,Axe,Bane,Warlock,Enigma

I call mid , Invoker says he should mid..Entire Team agrees...So i go bot against Bane and Axe...Game starts lagging so i have to reconnect...My Asshole teammates start game without me and by the time i reconnect their all level 5 or 6 while I'm level 2....While the Invoker farms the whole time while I'm getting Raped at bot (Calls himself a support Invoker soloing mid)

I have a score of 0/7/3 by the 20th min...Then some nice Teamfights occur...SK and Me start to get Fat...I have my manta style and and 1000 Gold short of Heart...we have them pinned in their base , have just teamwiped them and I suddenly press the windows button on the Keyboard instead of Ctrl

Cue Windows XP stutter , minimise , come to desktop , freeze , open a new window , freeze..
I alt tab Dota 2
Black Screen , Dota 2 Freeze , Dota 2 quit..
I restart , reconnect and get an Abandon...

I wanna break this shit.

Which is why you always want either a gaming keyboard without a windows key/windows key you can disable, or do something like this:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/216893
MotherOfRunes
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2862 Posts
August 21 2012 18:31 GMT
#2348
On August 22 2012 03:21 Tobberoth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 03:01 pyro19 wrote:
I'm so fking mad at my PC right now
was in an Intense 64 min game...They had our mid raxes down...While having all of their T3 remaining..
Our Team ;- Viper(me),Invoker,Disruptor,Riki,Sandking
Oppo Team - Drow,Axe,Bane,Warlock,Enigma

I call mid , Invoker says he should mid..Entire Team agrees...So i go bot against Bane and Axe...Game starts lagging so i have to reconnect...My Asshole teammates start game without me and by the time i reconnect their all level 5 or 6 while I'm level 2....While the Invoker farms the whole time while I'm getting Raped at bot (Calls himself a support Invoker soloing mid)

I have a score of 0/7/3 by the 20th min...Then some nice Teamfights occur...SK and Me start to get Fat...I have my manta style and and 1000 Gold short of Heart...we have them pinned in their base , have just teamwiped them and I suddenly press the windows button on the Keyboard instead of Ctrl

Cue Windows XP stutter , minimise , come to desktop , freeze , open a new window , freeze..
I alt tab Dota 2
Black Screen , Dota 2 Freeze , Dota 2 quit..
I restart , reconnect and get an Abandon...

I wanna break this shit.

Which is why you always want either a gaming keyboard without a windows key/windows key you can disable, or do something like this:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/216893

or buying a new proper pc where you wont have fucking win XP ^^
"Your Razor sucks!" -Kuroky's Dad
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
August 21 2012 18:34 GMT
#2349
Don't play on laptop keyboards, seriously
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
August 21 2012 18:44 GMT
#2350
also fun is using the "disable windows key" function in dota 2 options. i find that solves problems.
pyro19
Profile Joined August 2010
6575 Posts
August 21 2012 18:49 GMT
#2351
On August 22 2012 03:44 PrinceXizor wrote:
also fun is using the "disable windows key" function in dota 2 options. i find that solves problems.


@_@
I never knew there was an option like that.
Thy Shall Die Alone...or emm..something like that.
YODA_
Profile Joined June 2012
593 Posts
August 21 2012 21:47 GMT
#2352
On August 22 2012 03:44 PrinceXizor wrote:
also fun is using the "disable windows key" function in dota 2 options. i find that solves problems.

Or.......just not game on a PC that crashes when you do something as simple as minimize. :-)
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
August 21 2012 21:55 GMT
#2353
On August 22 2012 06:47 YODA_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 03:44 PrinceXizor wrote:
also fun is using the "disable windows key" function in dota 2 options. i find that solves problems.

Or.......just not game on a PC that crashes when you do something as simple as minimize. :-)

It's still useful though, accidentally minimazing in the middle of a teamfight is never good, no matter how quicly you can get back into the game.
EmilA
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark4618 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-21 23:29:49
August 21 2012 23:27 GMT
#2354
Sitting in a game on team with a 4 man russian stack. First guy picks CK, so I pick AA and lane with him. The last three pick clinkz, pl and weaver. PL+weaver lane got double killed by the solo razor. Now we're 15 minutes in and have 4 barracks down and they're writing words with fucking numbers in them. Kak 6a6a.

[image loading]


Ah, the joys of the very high skill bracket.
http://dotabuff.com/players/122305951 playing other games
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
August 22 2012 00:12 GMT
#2355
I swear to god talking to Ursa or Viper players is like talking to chimpanzees.

Ursa: we nid tp b4 we p.

Yeah no shit sherlock.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
August 22 2012 00:32 GMT
#2356
I just went through possibly the least enjoyable game of dota i have ever experienced, and it may have been partying with a TLer.

i accepted a friend invite a while back from a guy assumed it was from tl, he invited me to play just now i joined. i picked a hard support because he had a friend with him and i assumed with 3 people working together hard support will be best for us. I say "'lo" in chat i get "Furion" back from this guy. then game starts. they have a lycan (randomed) so i buy wards and wardblock 2 camps and shimmy my cute little ancient ass over to top lane (we are dire) furion seems to be jungling, based on his position. i then get spam pings from the guy in random spots (on me, top lane then bottom lane). so i start to head bottom thinking oh, he must be laning. so then iget spam pings on me when i turn to leave, so i turn back and go top thinking i misunderstood him, this time i ask for words to clarify since i don't know what he wants. i get nothing. so i turn around after the spam pings on me and bottom go back, and by the time i get to bottom lane tidehunter(guys friend has given first blood to naga. okay nbd we can recover easily. the tide spam pings on naga when she is at 80% so i go in and cold feet + vortex as he gushes, naga starts to walk away and then mirror images to dispel cold feet, tide immediately turns and runs (since i guess now it's a 4v2 and not a 2v1??) i proceed to die after being netteded and atttacked/riptided down as a lvl 2 support vs a lvl 3 naga still again, maybe a mis communication. Then the kicker, our solo mid, starts speaking portuguese and our other top (not furion) doesn't speak at all. so my team is composed of 1 person i don't know exactly what he is saying (but i get an idea of, and he's the only one i can cooperate with as a hard support because of this) and 3 people who don't speak at all. period. never have i felt more frustrated and more useless than a game as a hard support who i thought i would have 2 people i could coordinate well with. it was absolutely atrocious and made me want to quit this game. I've NEVER wanted to quit dota before. not a single moment in my life until today. I have no words. Just truly terrifyingly bad. Hell i didn't even mind that our furion was bad and spammed his ult denying all our farm and pushing the lanes that were already losing, i don't even mind that furion did nothing but farm and tp away from fights all game. i don't mind that pudge missed 80% of his hooks i don't mind that tide hunter didn't use ravage until 30 minutes into the game, i don't even mind that storm spirit rushed phase boots and never bought a real item all game. i don't mind playing with bad players on my team. i really don't. not when everything comes to it all. BUT having absolutely 0 communication when i'm trying to help and coordinate with my team, when my game is already glitchy as hell ( no messages for kills/denies ect ect,, no floaty text sometimes and no projectiles sometimes, which makes playing AA hard support near impossible, even though i fucking HIT all my ultimates except my first) is absolutely the worst feeling on earth and i hate you kind sir for bringing me deceptively into the hell you created.
NeoSlicerZ
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland470 Posts
August 22 2012 01:05 GMT
#2357
I found myself in the strange position of having a team that has 3 heroes already, none of which mid particularly well so I ask "who's going mid?" and get told "you". I raise both eyebrows as this is something that happens once in a blue moon and dust off my QoP. We have a treant, a tide, clinkz and a bh + my qop. Decent enough line up. Trundle down to middle, have the superior block vs rhasta. Just about win my lane (I rarely mid since people just instantly lock and shout mid usually), and I've never played the lane vs rhasta. On the way to the 10 minute mark, I gank for bot. Pick up a triple kill, gank for top pick up another, gank top again, pick up another kill.

Treant then rages at me for only going bot once, then screams at me to buy wards because I've been sitting in lane farming (trying to get a hex since we didn't have a non ulti disable). This keeps going on till the end of the game. Some games, you're playing fairly well and the game is hard and interesting... and there's one guy screaming at you on your team to do his job for him. Irritating.
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
August 22 2012 02:01 GMT
#2358
On August 22 2012 02:17 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 00:58 Dead9 wrote:
On August 21 2012 23:58 PrinceXizor wrote:
On August 21 2012 19:34 Dead9 wrote:
On August 21 2012 19:08 cost2010 wrote:
On August 14 2012 17:11 Bergys wrote:
Everyone starts in normal. People who are better advance through it. I don't even see how this is possible to argue about.

It is not inconceivable that the skill level you need to function in a higher bracket is lower than the skill level required to break out of the lower bracket.

if you aren't significantly better than your skill bracket it might take a while, but with enough games it should equalize

this is assuming the method in which skill brackets are determined and the method in which one moves between them is perfect, which you can easily argue is impossible.

as long as the system is reasonable and consistent it doesn't matter

a system can have an upward bias or a downward bias and still be consistent.

in an upward biased system you would be able to get to brackets you were unqualified for and it takes much longer to drop, and downward bias you get to where you fit in but drop rapidly below where you belong.

yes that would shift the brackets, but unless you are comparing the brackets to your own definition of skill it doesn't make a difference
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12244 Posts
August 22 2012 03:30 GMT
#2359
On August 22 2012 10:05 NeoSlicerZ wrote:
I found myself in the strange position of having a team that has 3 heroes already, none of which mid particularly well so I ask "who's going mid?" and get told "you". I raise both eyebrows as this is something that happens once in a blue moon and dust off my QoP. We have a treant, a tide, clinkz and a bh + my qop. Decent enough line up. Trundle down to middle, have the superior block vs rhasta. Just about win my lane (I rarely mid since people just instantly lock and shout mid usually), and I've never played the lane vs rhasta. On the way to the 10 minute mark, I gank for bot. Pick up a triple kill, gank for top pick up another, gank top again, pick up another kill.

Treant then rages at me for only going bot once, then screams at me to buy wards because I've been sitting in lane farming (trying to get a hex since we didn't have a non ulti disable). This keeps going on till the end of the game. Some games, you're playing fairly well and the game is hard and interesting... and there's one guy screaming at you on your team to do his job for him. Irritating.


Clinkz and BH are both decent mids I would say. Clinkz used to be the old school king of mid from what I'm told. Treant had no real room to complain unless he had been calling for ganks for a while and went unheeded.
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Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
August 22 2012 04:03 GMT
#2360
they're actually all pretty decent mids lol
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