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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34491 Posts
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DrPandaPhD
5188 Posts
On September 14 2012 03:42 Firebolt145 wrote: Tbh, I think if you learn how to play properly in a semi-competitive IH setting, you will easily be able to transfer that knowledge into pub games. Learning any hero once you learn how to have good map awareness, warding, last hitting, ganking, pushing etc is easy. I think you're doing it the wrong way around if you start with IH though. Matchmaking is the best way to learn the basics really. | ||
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34491 Posts
On September 14 2012 04:23 DrPandaPhD wrote: I think you're doing it the wrong way around if you start with IH though. Matchmaking is the best way to learn the basics really. Very basics yes, beyond that IH with a group of people willing to teach you is the way to go imo! | ||
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myopia
United States2928 Posts
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34491 Posts
On September 14 2012 04:34 myopia wrote: My only (small) complaint about IH's so far is that they're (almost) always CM's with captains drafting the same tired TI2 heroes. Then you join a game where a team has phantom lancer huskarr (can't remember the 3rd random hero) and you're like wat | ||
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
On September 14 2012 03:40 garlicface wrote: Was going to post exactly that. Of course, that's assuming you have a reliable drafter who knows how to construct a team with some cohesion and that can also take on your opponents on equal footing (at least) . The heroes that are selected are ones that you should definitely learn if you want to have continued success in Dota. You should also become familiar with the heroes that are commonly banned. Really though, take the time to learn every hero. If something you can't play is drafted in an inhouse, then dedicate that game to learning about it to the best of your abilities. Ask your teammates for help and don't be sour (I haven't encountered this yet) because you can't play it. And if your captain bitches at you for not being able to play a hero he drafted, then he's also to blame for not explaining what role the hero should have played in the team. --- I could go on forever about these inhouses, but if there's just one thing I want to get across in all my posts, it's that these are more of a casual learning experience than anything. It's nice that we can mimic the pros occasionally, but that more than often won't be the case considering the player pool available to us. Don't take the games to seriously, please. Problem is that most players don't want to explain how to play. Like this last game where I played Venge and our lane top got destroyed. I fed like 4 times early on and all I really got was an annoyed "Don't go there". That isn't really telling me what I should be doing. Of course, I don't expect people to be my personal teachers, but it would be sweet with a quick comment now and again, something like "They are doing X and you already failed at Y, so go do Z", something I can take away from the game and not do the same mistake next time. For this game, i didn't really feel like I learned anything more than "If you die once as venge in a lane, stay below tower and do nothing", which is obviously not the right thing to do either. I felt like I did slightly better later in the game, but it was already lost at that point. | ||
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34491 Posts
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Narcind
Sweden2489 Posts
On September 13 2012 00:35 Canas wrote: It really sucks that this has to be repeated, but if you don't know how you're supposed to draft, just don't draft please. It makes for fucking terrible games when you have a drafter who doesn't know what he's doing. Just say if you're not comfortable/have little experience with drafting, and don't ask if someone else WANTS to draft, say that you CANNOT draft. I don't like drafting, and I'd like to not do it if I can help it, but it's something that I actually know how to do and how it works, so if no one else on the team feels like they can draft, I'll do it. I'm just going to quote this every time this happens. If you can't draft, don't fucking do it. | ||
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
On September 14 2012 04:40 Firebolt145 wrote: For the record if anyone wants help I'll happily walk them through whatever they need help on, feel free to PM or whatever. I'll keep that in mind next time we're in an IH together ^^ | ||
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Dankleteer
United States1430 Posts
well maybe I should work on landing my burrowstrikes first... | ||
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Sprungjeezy
United States1313 Posts
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_HypeR_
France83 Posts
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AirbladeOrange
United States2573 Posts
On September 14 2012 05:57 Sprungjeezy wrote: While I personally prefer to play midskill or higher inhouses, sometimes very new players join and that's fine. I only ask you to be frank with me. Admit its your absolutely first dota game, tell me you have no fucking clue what your doing and I will gladly tell you what to buy, where to ward, what heroes to look out for, etc. So please, don't wait for someone to ask how good or new you are. No one will help you if they don't lnow you need it. Yeah, I have started saying right at the start of the draft that I'm inexperienced and will welcome suggestions. Nobody has given me any problems and some people have been pretty helpful. So far so good! | ||
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garlicface
Canada4196 Posts
Props to Hyper for the Mirana pick in the trilane. I'm still trying to figure that one out. | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On September 14 2012 05:57 Sprungjeezy wrote: While I personally prefer to play midskill or higher inhouses, sometimes very new players join and that's fine. I only ask you to be frank with me. Admit its your absolutely first dota game, tell me you have no fucking clue what your doing and I will gladly tell you what to buy, where to ward, what heroes to look out for, etc. So please, don't wait for someone to ask how good or new you are. No one will help you if they don't lnow you need it. Too easy. Why would I do that when I can say nothing, go 0-x where x is greater than minutes elapsed? Then tell you to fuck off when you give me advice in a very angry manner. That wouldn't be DotA at all. | ||
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paper
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Sata_
Belgium82 Posts
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lozarian
United Kingdom1043 Posts
On September 14 2012 02:02 vanTuni wrote: I see your point, but in 85% of the cases the heroes that get drafted are the ones you should be either comfortable with or be learning first, if you want to get anywhere in semi-organised play. As for me, I only ask around if people can play a certain hero if I want to pick something a bit more special. We're all here to learn, so best thing if you get to play a hero you are not "good" with, is to ask your teammates for skill- and itembuilds, positioning on the lane, role on clashes etc. That, or you make me play the weird shit. Too much emphasis is put on picks anyway. 99% of the time it's execution and play that matters more. | ||
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ZEEEPh
Portugal97 Posts
On September 14 2012 18:18 lozarian wrote: That, or you make me play the weird shit. Too much emphasis is put on picks anyway. 99% of the time it's execution and play that matters more. not entirely, you may be executing the best way you can, if the other team is coordinated and has a better late game (for example) you can lose the game, the draft is very important. you can't brush it off like that. the only ih i played in (that one that we could not push before the 30min), we didnt execute poorly, they simply turtled better and that made them win the game | ||
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