I'm just wondering why this happens:
http://i.imgur.com/yzR7EkP.jpg

The box is about a couple cm behind my cursor when I make a box. The game runs fine but it's very disorienting and throws me off sometimes, is there a reason this happens/how do I fix it?

I don't think my system specs matter since I run the game fine but I have i7 3.2GHz and GTX 580 ti.

Cyro

United Kingdom20326 Posts

January 28 2014 20:33 GMT

Can be caused by vsync or things like frame queues, in nvidia control panel, 3d options, put "maximum pre-rendered frames" to 1, if you still have issue then, make sure vsync is disabled in nvidia driver and ingame and look for something called "reduce mouse lag" if it's there

Also confirm it happens just with the game, with any kind of recording software shut down (if you still have issues)

Count9

China10928 Posts

January 28 2014 20:53 GMT

On January 29 2014 05:33 Cyro wrote:
Can be caused by vsync or things like frame queues, in nvidia control panel, 3d options, put "maximum pre-rendered frames" to 1, if you still have issue then, make sure vsync is disabled in nvidia driver and ingame and look for something called "reduce mouse lag" if it's there

Also confirm it happens just with the game, with any kind of recording software shut down (if you still have issues)

I have vsync off on both drivers and in game and tried the pre-rendered frames setting (I remember it helped a lot for skyrim) but it's still the same. I noticed the problem without fraps and only used fraps to record the short video to show it. In SC2 I used "reduce mouse lag" and it worked great, but dota 2 doesn't have that =( Is there a way to do that straight from graphics card through driver software?

Cyro

United Kingdom20326 Posts

January 28 2014 21:44 GMT

I dunno, i remember dota 2 having at least a few annoying laggy things though when i played it

Count9

China10928 Posts

January 28 2014 21:57 GMT

yeah... really wish UI responsiveness was like sc2 :|

Cyro

United Kingdom20326 Posts

January 28 2014 22:48 GMT

At least a lot of the laggy stuff is built into the engine by design, and it does not microstutter like a bitch

tili

United States1332 Posts

January 28 2014 23:44 GMT

How fast are you moving your mouse?

Cyro

United Kingdom20326 Posts

January 29 2014 01:14 GMT

If the mouse position has updated but the box position has not, it's at least one frame behind (16.7ms at 60fps) which is an annoying amount of latency

Rollin

Australia1552 Posts

January 29 2014 01:24 GMT

On January 29 2014 05:53 Count9 wrote:
In SC2 I used "reduce mouse lag" and it worked great

That should be the same as forcing prerendered frames to 1 or 0 in the nvidia control panel. That's all it does.

Count9

China10928 Posts

January 29 2014 23:30 GMT

#10

On January 29 2014 08:44 tili wrote:
How fast are you moving your mouse?

regular speed? I dunno, not super fast or anything. Just the speed people usually use when making boxes. The problem persist even when I purposely slow down my mouse.

@above
I remember you used to be able to set pre-rendered frames to 0 (that's what I did for skyrim to get rid of mouse lag) but that's no longer an option (even when I do it with nvidia inspector it never sticks).

Cyro

United Kingdom20326 Posts

January 29 2014 23:37 GMT

#11

Setting to 0 was removed a while ago because it was functionally the same as setting it to 1 (or so as said by nvidia.. numerous people have argued against it)

If you try to override it to 0, it'll default to 3, which is bad

Count9

China10928 Posts

January 29 2014 23:44 GMT

#12

Huh, I definitely notice a diff between current 1 and old 0. But there's nothing I can do about it so w/e

Cyro

United Kingdom20326 Posts

January 29 2014 23:49 GMT

#13

If you mean old as being 2 years ago (before driver version 3xx.xx), there's some people saying that too, i found a lot of posts from nvidia and their driver dudes addressing it before. There was lots of placebo, and i can't go back in time so not the easiest thing to test

It you mean since then, sure, you can notice a difference between "1" and a 0 which is defaulted to 3

Ropid

Germany3557 Posts

January 30 2014 00:32 GMT

#14

I felt a difference between driver versions sometimes, so I think NVIDIA are doing something suspicious. I think the 314.xx drivers were worse than the 320.xx drivers for example. There was some more latency, though I can't say for sure with my monitor. The current drivers seem to be on the better side regarding latency, so maybe try them if you didn't update.

In the NVIDIA control panel, other than that "pre-rendered frames" setting, you might also want to try "threaded optimization" = Off, "power management mode" = max performance, then go to the section about "desktop size and position", set scaling to "no scaling" and set "perform scaling on: display".

All of this might be placebo.