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DreamOen
Profile Joined March 2010
Spain1400 Posts
June 14 2013 10:37 GMT
#1
Well, Its been a few days with my mouse kinda dieing.So I started looking around on internet to get a new g9x and I noticed that I couldnt find it anywhere. At the end I found out that Logitech decided to stop manufacturing one of the best mouse ever and really popular among korean progamers as well.
Which bring us to the following question, is there now on the market a good mouse with similar design/ergonomics to go for?
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-14 10:45:14
June 14 2013 10:40 GMT
#2
You might be interested in the Coolermaster Storm Spawn. It got discontinued in at least some parts of europe recently though for some reason. The Xornet is a cheaper version with the same shell that seems to still be available where the spawn is discontinued - It's £15 here and a very strong mouse at that pricepoint. Not the best performance in terms of some sensor characteristics, but i don't think there was any major flaws and then again, neither is the g9x.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Daewon
Profile Joined October 2008
127 Posts
June 14 2013 11:16 GMT
#3
Do NOT get the spawn!

I had a g9x but ended up swapping it for a spawn due to the mouse making a high pitched noise. It turns out the spawn makes the same noise, Apparently all mice make that sound nowadays. The sensor on the spawn is so much less steady/reliable/solid, it's hard to explain but it feels like it's lagging compared to the g9x.

I'm going down to the store today to swap it back to a new g9x, My local store still has plenty left. Look around on the internet, you might get lucky.
Jevity
Profile Joined August 2012
United States67 Posts
June 14 2013 11:18 GMT
#4
I've had the spawn for several months now, latest patch fixed any bugs, and I have never had any problems with a high-pitched sound. The spawn is the best mouse I have ever used.
Shame is a silly emotion. Don't succumb to it. - Artosis
Nimix
Profile Joined October 2011
France1809 Posts
June 14 2013 11:24 GMT
#5
Wut? I just got a spawn and it's fucking awesome. You've got to update the firmware though, but once you've done that it's hands down the best mouse I've ever had (I have small hands and had a copperhead, a MIE 3.0, a naga and a sensei). The shame is awesome as is the sensor. Only downside is the quite high lift distance, although it is not as much of a problem as I read (people were saying it made the mouse a no-go, but I barely ever have the cursor moving when I'm lifting the mouse).
If your mice are making a strange noise, either you have an incredible hearing capacity, or your pc's got some other problems xD
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
June 14 2013 11:34 GMT
#6
I had a g9x but ended up swapping it for a spawn due to the mouse making a high pitched noise. It turns out the spawn makes the same noise, Apparently all mice make that sound nowadays.
...Wha?

The sensor on the spawn is so much less steady/reliable/solid, it's hard to explain but it feels like it's lagging compared to the g9x.
Firmwares, man.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
June 14 2013 11:37 GMT
#7
On June 14 2013 20:16 Daewon wrote:
Do NOT get the spawn!

I had a g9x but ended up swapping it for a spawn due to the mouse making a high pitched noise. It turns out the spawn makes the same noise, Apparently all mice make that sound nowadays. The sensor on the spawn is so much less steady/reliable/solid, it's hard to explain but it feels like it's lagging compared to the g9x.

I'm going down to the store today to swap it back to a new g9x, My local store still has plenty left. Look around on the internet, you might get lucky.
This is not indicative of a properly functioning product in the slightest (mice shoudl not be making any noise). You probably had a faulty transistor on the PCB and should have returned your product.
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Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
June 14 2013 11:55 GMT
#8
On June 14 2013 20:16 Daewon wrote:
Do NOT get the spawn!

I had a g9x but ended up swapping it for a spawn due to the mouse making a high pitched noise. It turns out the spawn makes the same noise, Apparently all mice make that sound nowadays. The sensor on the spawn is so much less steady/reliable/solid, it's hard to explain but it feels like it's lagging compared to the g9x.

I'm going down to the store today to swap it back to a new g9x, My local store still has plenty left. Look around on the internet, you might get lucky.


Yeah, that's not your mouse that's making that noise. I know exactly what sound you're talking about, a constant high pitched whine that only occurs when your PC is powered on. For me i only hear it when i listen very closely, and it gets louder the closer i get to my surge protector. Probably one of the devices in there that's making the noise.
Daewon
Profile Joined October 2008
127 Posts
June 14 2013 12:00 GMT
#9
Firmware is completely up to date so that's not what's causing the sensor to be 'lagging'. According to logitech many mice connected to USB ports makes that sound.

But it is kind of pointless to debate this stuff for two reasons.

The sound is not very noticable, it's a high pitched sound and not all people have perfect hearing (in this case I certainly wish I didn't).

Debating a sensor is hopeless, people have different expectations, preferences, etc. Personally I think the laser sensor in the g9x is the absolute best I've ever tried even with it's 10% built in acceleration. It doesn't have that ghostly, lagging feel of other optical mice.

For OP I would strongly advice against the spawn for the reasons I already mentioned. Another reason not to get this mouse is the fact that it has 3 DPI presets: 800, 1800 and 3500. If you don't use one of these, too bad for you! It's not possible to adjust the DPI to a 4th setting.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
June 14 2013 12:10 GMT
#10
Personally I think the laser sensor in the g9x is the absolute best I've ever tried even with it's 10% built in acceleration.


It's not acceleration, it's inconsistency.

It doesn't have that ghostly, lagging feel of other optical mice.


I have no idea what you are talking about, literally never heard this mentioned before. Perhaps you left your spawn and other mice at 125hz or something?
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10341 Posts
June 14 2013 12:10 GMT
#11
On June 14 2013 20:55 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 20:16 Daewon wrote:
Do NOT get the spawn!

I had a g9x but ended up swapping it for a spawn due to the mouse making a high pitched noise. It turns out the spawn makes the same noise, Apparently all mice make that sound nowadays. The sensor on the spawn is so much less steady/reliable/solid, it's hard to explain but it feels like it's lagging compared to the g9x.

I'm going down to the store today to swap it back to a new g9x, My local store still has plenty left. Look around on the internet, you might get lucky.


Yeah, that's not your mouse that's making that noise. I know exactly what sound you're talking about, a constant high pitched whine that only occurs when your PC is powered on. For me i only hear it when i listen very closely, and it gets louder the closer i get to my surge protector. Probably one of the devices in there that's making the noise.

Logitech mice are known to do this. See http://jdc.koitsu.org/logitech/

Had to ditch mine since it was too annoying to deal with on a daily basis.
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Daewon
Profile Joined October 2008
127 Posts
June 14 2013 12:19 GMT
#12
@R1CH

well my Spawn is doing the exact same thing. So it's not only Logitech mice that has the problem.

@Cyro

Like I already wrote, a sensor that you think is perfect might be horrible for others, it's a matter of preference. Heck some guys even prefer mouse acceleration turned on.
Crayfishy
Profile Joined May 2013
Syria13 Posts
June 14 2013 12:24 GMT
#13
I would like to know how the G9 sensor compares to the G9x. Not sure if the G9 has acceleration. It is mentioned that there are skipping problems, but that is just a Mac issue.
Nimix
Profile Joined October 2011
France1809 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-14 12:26:55
June 14 2013 12:26 GMT
#14

Like I already wrote, a sensor that you think is perfect might be horrible for others, it's a matter of preference. Heck some guys even prefer mouse acceleration turned on.

Yeah but the laggy feeling your are describing is something very objective, it's not user dependent, and I swear my spawn cursor is not lagging more than my sensei's at all.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-14 12:29:32
June 14 2013 12:29 GMT
#15
@Cyro

Like I already wrote, a sensor that you think is perfect might be horrible for others, it's a matter of preference.
In some cases yes.

Heck some guys even prefer mouse acceleration turned on.


Indeed, but that's finely controlled mouse acceleration. The g9x doesn't have finely controlled acceleration - it has wild sensor-level inconsistencies that scale with tracking speed.


On June 14 2013 21:26 Nimix wrote:
Show nested quote +

Like I already wrote, a sensor that you think is perfect might be horrible for others, it's a matter of preference. Heck some guys even prefer mouse acceleration turned on.

Yeah but the laggy feeling your are describing is something very objective, it's not user dependent, and I swear my spawn cursor is not lagging more than my sensei's at all.


And this
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
June 14 2013 12:35 GMT
#16
You want a mouse shaped just right for a right-hander. Get one of the Mionix Naos mice. Preferably a 3200 if you can find it. They're shaped like the storm spawn/xornet. Only way better .
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
Daewon
Profile Joined October 2008
127 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-14 12:45:40
June 14 2013 12:43 GMT
#17
The g9x doesn't have finely controlled acceleration - it has wild sensor-level inconsistencies that scale with tracking speed.


lol yeah it's crazy how wild it is. You do realize the G9X (with no grip) is one of the most popular mice across korean SC2 progamers right? They must all be on crack.


Yeah but the laggy feeling your are describing is something very objective, it's not user dependent, and I swear my spawn cursor is not lagging more than my sensei's at all.


Lag is perhaps the wrong word. Ghostly, behind, slow, etc. I feel like repeating myself. A mouse that you perceive to have a perfect sensor might not feel right for everyone else. I'm simply comparing it to my G9X
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
June 14 2013 12:54 GMT
#18
lol yeah it's crazy how wild it is. You do realize the G9X (with no grip) is one of the most popular mice across korean SC2 progamers right? They must all be on crack.


Indeed they are. It's a good thing that precision doesn't really matter for sc2 compared to many other things.

Lag is perhaps the wrong word. Ghostly, behind, slow, etc.


That's exactly what "lag" means.

A mouse that you perceive to have a perfect sensor might not feel right for everyone else.


Sure, but there are some things are are down to preference, and some things that are literally bad
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
June 14 2013 12:58 GMT
#19
On June 14 2013 21:35 MisterFred wrote:
You want a mouse shaped just right for a right-hander. Get one of the Mionix Naos mice. Preferably a 3200 if you can find it. They're shaped like the storm spawn/xornet. Only way better .


They are ~30% longer, palm grip built and the 3200 and 8200 (maybe others too) have questionable sensors, i'm guessing you have one? ;p
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Daewon
Profile Joined October 2008
127 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-14 13:14:36
June 14 2013 13:13 GMT
#20
Indeed they are. It's a good thing that precision doesn't really matter for sc2 compared to many other things.


From that statement I deduce the korean progamers are not the only ones on crack, which kind of makes it pointless to continue this discussion :-) Have a nice day sir.
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