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LingBlingBling
Profile Joined December 2012
United States353 Posts
December 26 2012 04:28 GMT
#21
Thanks all for the information advise, all has been helpful, feeling more comfy with my new addy now (= I will prob have to mess around with the DPI still.
Remember our motto: We ain't got it.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20341 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-26 05:02:56
December 26 2012 04:33 GMT
#22
I really have to disagree with the higher dpi = more speed thing though - i hear it all the time.

If you can reach everything on your screen comfortably (this happens at ~550-600dpi for me using my grip at 1920x1080) then you basically dont experience any slowdown in the amount of time it takes you to move anywhere on the screen, assuming you have room on mousepad etc. To use an example in FPS (though turning in a 3d game and controlling mouse on 2d ui are very different) people using 400dpi and very low sens still turn almost instantly.

On the other side of the argument, its pretty much accepted that lower DPI = more accuracy, and i find after playing at a wide range of DPI settings for years that as long as everything is comfortably in reach and not low enough dpi to give you grip issues with some days practice, then lowering can actually make you play faster
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Lysergic
Profile Joined December 2010
United States355 Posts
December 26 2012 05:20 GMT
#23
Use these settings if you want ideal performance and 1:1 tracking. Make sure to adjust them in Windows and in the Razer driver software.

Windows Settings
Pointer Speed: 6/11 (default)
Uncheck 'Enhance Pointer Precision'

Razer Settings
Sensitivity/Speed: 50% or 5/10
Acceleration: 0
DPI: 1800 - Razer DA sensor has optimal tracking at 1800 DPI (Google it if you want detailed info).
Polling Rate: 1000hz

Sc2 Options
Sensitivity: 51% (default)
LingBlingBling
Profile Joined December 2012
United States353 Posts
December 26 2012 05:50 GMT
#24
On December 26 2012 14:20 lysergic wrote:
Use these settings if you want ideal performance and 1:1 tracking. Make sure to adjust them in Windows and in the Razer driver software.

Windows Settings
Pointer Speed: 6/11 (default)
Uncheck 'Enhance Pointer Precision'

Razer Settings
Sensitivity/Speed: 50% or 5/10
Acceleration: 0
DPI: 1800 - Razer DA sensor has optimal tracking at 1800 DPI (Google it if you want detailed info).
Polling Rate: 1000hz

Sc2 Options
Sensitivity: 51% (default)



Thank you, I took your advise, everything feels fine, I change starcraft 2 settings from 51% to 54% sensitivity and its working wonders (=
Remember our motto: We ain't got it.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20341 Posts
December 26 2012 06:03 GMT
#25
On December 26 2012 14:50 LingBlingBling wrote:
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On December 26 2012 14:20 lysergic wrote:
Use these settings if you want ideal performance and 1:1 tracking. Make sure to adjust them in Windows and in the Razer driver software.

Windows Settings
Pointer Speed: 6/11 (default)
Uncheck 'Enhance Pointer Precision'

Razer Settings
Sensitivity/Speed: 50% or 5/10
Acceleration: 0
DPI: 1800 - Razer DA sensor has optimal tracking at 1800 DPI (Google it if you want detailed info).
Polling Rate: 1000hz

Sc2 Options
Sensitivity: 51% (default)



Thank you, I took your advise, everything feels fine, I change starcraft 2 settings from 51% to 54% sensitivity and its working wonders (=


This is basically exactly what i said.

51, 52, 53, 54% in sc2 are all identical in the sc2 engine, they all correspond to 1:1, 6/11 in windows. You dont want 50% or 55% because of rounding errors in display that can make 50% mean either 51% or 49% for example, so you set inside the range by 1% (51-54%) to avoid being accidentally outside of it

5/10 sens in Razer drivers is cutting DPI in half, 10/10 = 1:1 with what you have set.

The sens is basically a "true dpi" slider for 1800dpi which is the native dpi of the sensor and vastly outperforms the other settings, i said 1.5-3 sens range using on-the-fly for exact selection as that is pretty much the best range for playing at 1366x768 (equivalent to around double that on a 1920x1080 display)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-26 07:52:27
December 26 2012 07:51 GMT
#26
On December 26 2012 13:33 Cyro wrote:
I really have to disagree with the higher dpi = more speed thing though - i hear it all the time.

If you can reach everything on your screen comfortably (this happens at ~550-600dpi for me using my grip at 1920x1080) then you basically dont experience any slowdown in the amount of time it takes you to move anywhere on the screen, assuming you have room on mousepad etc. To use an example in FPS (though turning in a 3d game and controlling mouse on 2d ui are very different) people using 400dpi and very low sens still turn almost instantly.

Uh... there is nothing to argue. If you're doing a 360 degree turn with a 400 CPI/DPI mouse as fast as you are a 5600 CPI/DPI mouse, then you're moving the physical 400 CPI/DPI mouse faster and further across the pad than you are the 5600 CPI/DPI mouse, and likely using more force.

I don't mean more CPI will make you play faster (it will likely make most people play sloppier), but the mouse cursor will move faster at 5600 counts per inch than at 400 counts per inch, all other variables being the same. These high counts (such as on the DeathAdder 2013) are useless to most people who play at 1080p.
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xsnac
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Barbados1365 Posts
December 26 2012 09:08 GMT
#27
this is what i use and i never had problems , i used double speed before and my wrists were hurting cuz i was holding the mouse too tight :

windows 6/11 , starcraft 2 : disabled , razer death adder driver : 900 dpi , 0 acceleration , 125 pooling .

i dont find too much of difference with pooling . now i have my second death adder ( black edition and same settings ) .
1/4 \pi \epsilon_0
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20341 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-26 09:37:38
December 26 2012 09:31 GMT
#28
On December 26 2012 16:51 Jibba wrote:
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On December 26 2012 13:33 Cyro wrote:
I really have to disagree with the higher dpi = more speed thing though - i hear it all the time.

If you can reach everything on your screen comfortably (this happens at ~550-600dpi for me using my grip at 1920x1080) then you basically dont experience any slowdown in the amount of time it takes you to move anywhere on the screen, assuming you have room on mousepad etc. To use an example in FPS (though turning in a 3d game and controlling mouse on 2d ui are very different) people using 400dpi and very low sens still turn almost instantly.

Uh... there is nothing to argue. If you're doing a 360 degree turn with a 400 CPI/DPI mouse as fast as you are a 5600 CPI/DPI mouse, then you're moving the physical 400 CPI/DPI mouse faster and further across the pad than you are the 5600 CPI/DPI mouse, and likely using more force.

I don't mean more CPI will make you play faster (it will likely make most people play sloppier), but the mouse cursor will move faster at 5600 counts per inch than at 400 counts per inch, all other variables being the same. These high counts (such as on the DeathAdder 2013) are useless to most people who play at 1080p.


Thats what i meant.

Doubling DPI doesnt half the amount of time it takes to select a worker - a lot of people imply this.

^Above poster is another example of one using 900dpi.

This is pretty much equivalant to 1.8k + ~2-2.5 sens on 1366x768, if he is using 1920x1080, i reccomended 1.5-3 range.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Trion
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada291 Posts
December 27 2012 03:16 GMT
#29
On December 26 2012 12:29 mtn wrote:
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On December 26 2012 12:27 Trion wrote:
Make sure windows sensitivity is at 7/11, and that SC2 mouse sensitivity. Change your mouse speed by changing your DPI. Also make sure mouse acceleration (sometimes called "enhanced pointer precision") is disabled. Other than that it's all personal preference.


It's 6/11 if Im not mistaken(Default, no skippin pixels).

Also in SC2 range between 51 - 54% is the best, again, cuz you don't skip any pixels.( someone on TL like a year a go did a study on that ;p )


Thanks, my mistake. 6/11 if correct.

I do remember the thread saying between 51-54%, but it it looks like we now have the option to just disable SC2 mouse sensitivity and leave it as it was set for windows.
astroorion
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1022 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-27 03:26:55
December 27 2012 03:26 GMT
#30
Just to reiterate what a lot of people have already said, all the pros have their different settings so it's just finding out what feels best for you whether you want fast movements across the screen or slightly slower to improve precision, but the most common thing is 6/11 on Mouse settings and disabling Enhance Pointer Precision and then toying with your DPI from there
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