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eXePensai
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada56 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-20 23:57:28
December 20 2012 23:57 GMT
#21
So, you had mineral oil over/near your keyboard why...?? f....f.....f...f...f..fap fap fap?

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Belial88
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5217 Posts
December 21 2012 05:12 GMT
#22
On December 21 2012 08:51 Medrea wrote:
I wouldnt use the freezer.

Freezer will bring parts that have capacitance values too low.

You can also use rice. Dry uncooked rice also help bring the moisture out of things.

I always put things in the fridge when they get wet because sometimes water can get inside of things, and then it takes a really really long time, like weeks, to air out if its an almost perfect box (enclosed area). Inside a fridge you have a machine built for ripping out water.

Oh also about the freezer, you could end up freezing the water between two places, and make cracks. That will break the keyboard.

EDIT: And finally, its not risky, its not underground, its something that we have been doing for decades now. Its a life saver for cellphones that have been dropped into water or something.


So... would I need to clear out the food from the fridge, or wrap it or anything? Or just stick it in the fridge and that's it?

I've completely taken apart my ducky, pcb and everything, so i dont think water will be an issue, and i'll let it dry for a while anyways. using water/IPA mix and IPA dabbing, depending on the part.
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Belial88
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5217 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-21 05:15:02
December 21 2012 05:14 GMT
#23
On December 21 2012 08:57 eXePensai wrote:
So, you had mineral oil over/near your keyboard why...?? f....f.....f...f...f..fap fap fap?


I already said why. I was lubricating some fans.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1336160/how-to-repair-msi-twin-frozr-heatsink-fans-or-how-to-fix-fans-where-there-is-no-hole-behind-the-sticker/0_100



Probably boring links if you arent a fan/heatsink enthusiast like i am.
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Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-21 14:00:56
December 21 2012 13:59 GMT
#24
On December 21 2012 14:12 Belial88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2012 08:51 Medrea wrote:
I wouldnt use the freezer.

Freezer will bring parts that have capacitance values too low.

You can also use rice. Dry uncooked rice also help bring the moisture out of things.

I always put things in the fridge when they get wet because sometimes water can get inside of things, and then it takes a really really long time, like weeks, to air out if its an almost perfect box (enclosed area). Inside a fridge you have a machine built for ripping out water.

Oh also about the freezer, you could end up freezing the water between two places, and make cracks. That will break the keyboard.

EDIT: And finally, its not risky, its not underground, its something that we have been doing for decades now. Its a life saver for cellphones that have been dropped into water or something.


So... would I need to clear out the food from the fridge, or wrap it or anything? Or just stick it in the fridge and that's it?

I've completely taken apart my ducky, pcb and everything, so i dont think water will be an issue, and i'll let it dry for a while anyways. using water/IPA mix and IPA dabbing, depending on the part.


Nah just putting it uncovered on the top shelf is fine.

If thats what you are doing then just using the air is fine as well. So do that and forget the fridge. Remember it for future stuff though.
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Belial88
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5217 Posts
December 22 2012 07:00 GMT
#25
i will do, thanks. i mean why not put it in the fridge for a week, right. very cool tip.
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Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
December 22 2012 15:19 GMT
#26
On December 22 2012 16:00 Belial88 wrote:
i will do, thanks. i mean why not put it in the fridge for a week, right. very cool tip.


Is that....?

Did you just make a pun?
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StimedSheep
Profile Joined October 2010
United States51 Posts
December 22 2012 15:44 GMT
#27
The reason people are suggesting the refrigerator is that most have a 'defrosting' cycle in them. This greatly lowers the water content in the air of the refrigerator. This area will both dry your keyboard and slow any chemical reactions happening with metal parts. The major downside to all of this is when you pull the keyboard out of the refrigerator it will attract the moisture back into the small nooks and crannies and it reheats.

I would say douse it in rice but then you have rice powder everywhere and you need to reclean it again. I would go with the trick that the ripster people mention of a warm radiating heat source. Heat lamp, hair dryer on LOW, they get really hot on high, basically anything you can hold your hand under for 10 minutes and not have it burn.

As for a solvent for the mineral oil if you have not yet found one, check your local hardware store. They will have that in their chemical section. Denatured alchol is pure alchol that has been modified for non human consumption, so if you are looking for pure alchol there you go.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-22 16:18:41
December 22 2012 16:08 GMT
#28
You dont have to worry about condensation. Mostly because it isnt enough moisture and also because it generally isnt conductive.
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Belial88
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5217 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-23 05:31:27
December 23 2012 05:29 GMT
#29
i did not intend to make a pun. wasnt thinking of that.

i think my fridge is broken, lol.

I was offered some free Mineral Spirits today, ie paint thinner (as ripster recommended) but I recalled back to my experiences of painting warhammer 40k. I put a couple plastic models in paint thinner to remove a terrible paint job I had done years before. The plastic absolutely melted (after a better paint job they still looked better than before).

I know ripster said he tested paint thinner on plastic before, and the damage probably occurred from having the models in the thinner for overnight (that's how long it took to get paint off), but the memory just scares me to put my keyboard in that. Not to mention the PCB, and how fragile that might be.

Just going to stick with watered down IPA.
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Belial88
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5217 Posts
January 07 2013 05:08 GMT
#30
On December 21 2012 08:51 Medrea wrote:
I wouldnt use the freezer.

Freezer will bring parts that have capacitance values too low.

You can also use rice. Dry uncooked rice also help bring the moisture out of things.

I always put things in the fridge when they get wet because sometimes water can get inside of things, and then it takes a really really long time, like weeks, to air out if its an almost perfect box (enclosed area). Inside a fridge you have a machine built for ripping out water.

Oh also about the freezer, you could end up freezing the water between two places, and make cracks. That will break the keyboard.

EDIT: And finally, its not risky, its not underground, its something that we have been doing for decades now. Its a life saver for cellphones that have been dropped into water or something.


wont rice cause rice dust to get all over it?

i put the board in the fridge for like half an hour and it seemed like condensation got all over it ;/

I can tell there's IPA all inside some of the keys, and it isn't getting out no matter how much duster i use. I need a way to really dry out the board.

maybe i'll put the board in front of the space heater set to like 80-90*F.
How to build a $500 i7-3770K Ultimate Computer:http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=392709 ******** 100% Safe Razorless Delid Method! http://www.overclock.net/t/1376206/how-to-delid-your-ivy-bridge-cpu-with-out-a-razor-blade/0_100
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
January 07 2013 15:51 GMT
#31
On January 07 2013 14:08 Belial88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2012 08:51 Medrea wrote:
I wouldnt use the freezer.

Freezer will bring parts that have capacitance values too low.

You can also use rice. Dry uncooked rice also help bring the moisture out of things.

I always put things in the fridge when they get wet because sometimes water can get inside of things, and then it takes a really really long time, like weeks, to air out if its an almost perfect box (enclosed area). Inside a fridge you have a machine built for ripping out water.

Oh also about the freezer, you could end up freezing the water between two places, and make cracks. That will break the keyboard.

EDIT: And finally, its not risky, its not underground, its something that we have been doing for decades now. Its a life saver for cellphones that have been dropped into water or something.


wont rice cause rice dust to get all over it?

i put the board in the fridge for like half an hour and it seemed like condensation got all over it ;/

I can tell there's IPA all inside some of the keys, and it isn't getting out no matter how much duster i use. I need a way to really dry out the board.

maybe i'll put the board in front of the space heater set to like 80-90*F.


The problem with the fridge is that removing it from the fridge will cause condensation either way. I'd avoid it. As you said, mineral spirits could cause damage to plastic (glad I'm not the only one who's lost a model that way).

You need to use something, but I wouldn't water down the rubbing alcohol, myself. Diluting it just means it doesn't evaporate as quickly. Use like 90%, it evaporates so fast I don't even worry about it spilling on electronics. Then if there's any nooks and crannies, you can just use canned air to finish the cleanup.
Belial88
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5217 Posts
January 07 2013 19:17 GMT
#32
well i dont mind it not evaporating as quickly, but the problem is that it just isn't evaporating at all. When I press the keys, I can sort of see the liquid come out just barely, from the switch (like very barely, i've already used up 2 cans of duster, it's not coming out and it's a very small amount as it is, but i can just see the edge of the switch go from dry black to wet black, if that makes sense). It's just stuck in there, and it's not water, it's 3 parts 91% IPA to 2 parts water.

So I need a method to pull the water out without getting rice dust all over the board (maybe stick it in a container of rice but wrapped in paper towerl? everything i read says stick the rice all up in it...), or condensation all over it.

I got a space heater, maybe stick it in front of that on like 70-90*F.

I also used 90% for a while and i was having the same issue where that wasn't coming out.

Now I can't tell if some of the keys are not fully right because liquid is still in them, or because they need lubrication.

I mean the keyboard isn't too bad, I could use it and all would be fine. It's only like the keys 0. -, +, and then the 3 keys below it every row down, a very small part of the keyboard, and they aren't even that bad. But there's something stopping them from operating perfectly like they should, and I'd like to fix that. Plus there's clearly water all up in it still and i need a method that pulls it out, i dont think it's just going to dry out.
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Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-07 19:30:48
January 07 2013 19:27 GMT
#33
It still hasn't dried even since the 18th?

Since you seem to be on the fence about the fridge just go ahead and use a hairdryer or nice dry place in your house. Not like Im going to get offended or anything. Ive been putting random shit in rice bags in the fridge since the early 90's but I can see how people question it (stuff with nooks and crannies dont go directly in the rice, cellphones however can).

Just use whatevers. Since the keyboard doesnt contain anything like a battery afaik you can do just about anything.
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Belial88
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5217 Posts
January 08 2013 00:44 GMT
#34
no i used the fridge but it got water all over it, there was condensation all over the board. like when you wiped it, it was clearly wet.

i didnt use any rice, or bag it. i just wrapped it in paper towel and stuck it in the fridge. I understand rice works but i dont want rice dust all in the switches, is all.

I'll just stick it in front of the space heater.
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Belial88
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5217 Posts
January 09 2013 00:37 GMT
#35
so uhh if i stick my face like right between 2 really bad keys, and suck really hard, a bunch of oil comes out. i know its oil and not just leftover ipa because its oily, and not super bitter like ipa is...

i dont know how theres still oil after tons of soaks and stuff, im not sure what to do. maybe i gotta use a compressor or something, because 2 cans of duster did nothing.
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