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cQdXesLReDXv
Profile Joined June 2014
United States5 Posts
June 23 2014 20:59 GMT
#1941
On June 23 2014 23:35 Antoine wrote:
what encoding settings are you using for OBS?


Thanks for the help, all of you! I appreciate it!

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Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
June 23 2014 21:30 GMT
#1942
try unchecking "Use CFR" under advanced to see if that fixes it.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-23 21:37:01
June 23 2014 21:36 GMT
#1943
Need to make sure the video is actually not being encoded properly somehow, instead of just being played back poorly
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
cQdXesLReDXv
Profile Joined June 2014
United States5 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-23 22:33:34
June 23 2014 22:33 GMT
#1944
On June 24 2014 06:30 Antoine wrote:
try unchecking "Use CFR" under advanced to see if that fixes it.


This actually made a HUGE difference! I'm almost up to the quality of my Afterburner recordings now (minus the compression). Is there anything else I could do in order to boost the performance? Since I have GPU muscle to spare, do you think that downscaling the image will allow for more bitrate headroom and perhaps better FPS? I'm still not quite getting a solid thirty, but it's pretty close. Also, what exactly does "use CFR" do to make this much of a change?
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
June 24 2014 18:06 GMT
#1945
If you mean downscale as in stream at a lower resolution, you can always do that and trade off losing resolution for gaining higher "quality"

if you mean downscale as in run game at like 2880x1620 scaled to 1920x1080, you could do that but it wouldn't improve much, only the image going into the encoder
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
KingofGods
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1218 Posts
July 07 2014 20:32 GMT
#1946
How do streamers get the scenes to switch when they alt tab out of the game?
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-07 21:18:09
July 07 2014 21:11 GMT
#1947
On July 08 2014 05:32 KingofGods wrote:
How do streamers get the scenes to switch when they alt tab out of the game?

There's a Simple Scene Switcher plugin for OBS that does automated scene switches based on detected active windows

There's another plugin specifically for SC2 that detects a registry key for in game/out of game

Another way is to make scene hotkeys and have fast fingers
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Hyren
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States817 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-08 06:00:48
July 08 2014 05:58 GMT
#1948
Streaming on a 1920x1080 monitor, i3 4350 cpu, xfx r9 270 graphics card. Tried streaming Dead Space today, lowered my resolution to 1600x900 and "DeadSpace.exe has stopped working" popped up and my computer froze. I could tab around but couldn't click anything to quit the program. edit: This only happens when I'm streaming.

Stream Settings: http://imgur.com/a/qBnXp#4
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
July 08 2014 07:17 GMT
#1949
On July 08 2014 14:58 Hyren wrote:
Streaming on a 1920x1080 monitor, i3 4350 cpu, xfx r9 270 graphics card. Tried streaming Dead Space today, lowered my resolution to 1600x900 and "DeadSpace.exe has stopped working" popped up and my computer froze. I could tab around but couldn't click anything to quit the program. edit: This only happens when I'm streaming.

Stream Settings: http://imgur.com/a/qBnXp#4


When that happens, it's usually (in my experience) because the game doesn't like the capture method. You could try running it in windowed fullscreen and using monitor/window capture (i dunno what's best) instead of using game capture
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Hyren
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States817 Posts
July 08 2014 07:33 GMT
#1950
Capturing the window does seem to solve the problem, thanks!
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KingofGods
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1218 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-10 07:04:17
July 10 2014 06:47 GMT
#1951
Here is my "new" upgraded system, what would be the best SC2 and OBS settings to maximize the experience for stream viewers?

AMD FX-8350 Black Edition Vishera 8-Core 4.0GHz (4.2GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 125W Desktop Processor FD8350FRHKBOX

BIOSTAR A960D+ AM3+ AMD 760G + SB710 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard

G.SKILL NS 10GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600)

SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 5670 1GB GDDR5

Download: 25-50MBpS

Upload: 10MBpS

Windows 7, 64 bit.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
July 10 2014 13:17 GMT
#1952
On July 10 2014 15:47 KingofGods wrote:
Here is my "new" upgraded system, what would be the best SC2 and OBS settings to maximize the experience for stream viewers?

AMD FX-8350 Black Edition Vishera 8-Core 4.0GHz (4.2GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 125W Desktop Processor FD8350FRHKBOX

BIOSTAR A960D+ AM3+ AMD 760G + SB710 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard

G.SKILL NS 10GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600)

SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 5670 1GB GDDR5

Download: 25-50MBpS

Upload: 10MBpS

Windows 7, 64 bit.


something like 1080p30, veryfast, ~2000-3500kbit bitrate

fx8350 at stock isn't very good for sc2

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"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
KingofGods
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1218 Posts
July 10 2014 14:42 GMT
#1953
Ultra game settings? I'm not sure how to read those numbers.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
July 10 2014 15:38 GMT
#1954
Yea, Ultra. It doesn't really matter what graphics settings are used because it's extremely CPU bound

is just saying fx@4700mhz has 36.1fps average in that test. Haswell@4700mhz had 62.9 (so ~82% faster at the same clock speed in sc2)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
KingofGods
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1218 Posts
July 10 2014 15:50 GMT
#1955
Oh, ok. The standard in video streaming is 30fps anyway isn't it?
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-10 17:28:38
July 10 2014 17:24 GMT
#1956
30, 60, whatever people feel like

just meaning to say that in a big battle where any CPU has bad performance in sc2, fx at stock (4200mhz turbo) would run at half of the FPS of a 4690k. That might be 100fps on FX vs 200 on i5, or 10fps on fx vs 20 on i5
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
July 10 2014 18:16 GMT
#1957
On July 11 2014 02:24 Cyro wrote:
30, 60, whatever people feel like

just meaning to say that in a big battle where any CPU has bad performance in sc2, fx at stock (4200mhz turbo) would run at half of the FPS of a 4690k. That might be 100fps on FX vs 200 on i5, or 10fps on fx vs 20 on i5

So wouldn't lowering his broadcast resolution and/or fps make a difference? (Or am I mistaken about the resources needed to stream?)
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-10 18:35:40
July 10 2014 18:34 GMT
#1958
On July 11 2014 03:16 y0su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2014 02:24 Cyro wrote:
30, 60, whatever people feel like

just meaning to say that in a big battle where any CPU has bad performance in sc2, fx at stock (4200mhz turbo) would run at half of the FPS of a 4690k. That might be 100fps on FX vs 200 on i5, or 10fps on fx vs 20 on i5

So wouldn't lowering his broadcast resolution and/or fps make a difference? (Or am I mistaken about the resources needed to stream?)


No, it wouldn't change performance

Broadcast stuff can only hurt performance. If FX runs starcraft 2 at 20fps while i5 is at 35fps, then nothing you do in OBS will change that or make it better. Running OBS would hurt performance the same on both CPU's

Just wanted to say it's generally a bad idea to use FX for streaming sc2 if you want the game to run well
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-10 19:53:00
July 10 2014 19:33 GMT
#1959
On July 11 2014 03:34 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2014 03:16 y0su wrote:
On July 11 2014 02:24 Cyro wrote:
30, 60, whatever people feel like

just meaning to say that in a big battle where any CPU has bad performance in sc2, fx at stock (4200mhz turbo) would run at half of the FPS of a 4690k. That might be 100fps on FX vs 200 on i5, or 10fps on fx vs 20 on i5

So wouldn't lowering his broadcast resolution and/or fps make a difference? (Or am I mistaken about the resources needed to stream?)


No, it wouldn't change performance

Broadcast stuff can only hurt performance. If FX runs starcraft 2 at 20fps while i5 is at 35fps, then nothing you do in OBS will change that or make it better. Running OBS would hurt performance the same on both CPU's

Just wanted to say it's generally a bad idea to use FX for streaming sc2 if you want the game to run well

He already has an FX... Let's focus on optimizing that.

Are you saying that regardless of FPS/resolution the (CPU) resources needed to stream do not change? (If that's the case I need to change to 1080p@60...)
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
July 10 2014 20:05 GMT
#1960
On July 11 2014 04:33 y0su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2014 03:34 Cyro wrote:
On July 11 2014 03:16 y0su wrote:
On July 11 2014 02:24 Cyro wrote:
30, 60, whatever people feel like

just meaning to say that in a big battle where any CPU has bad performance in sc2, fx at stock (4200mhz turbo) would run at half of the FPS of a 4690k. That might be 100fps on FX vs 200 on i5, or 10fps on fx vs 20 on i5

So wouldn't lowering his broadcast resolution and/or fps make a difference? (Or am I mistaken about the resources needed to stream?)


No, it wouldn't change performance

Broadcast stuff can only hurt performance. If FX runs starcraft 2 at 20fps while i5 is at 35fps, then nothing you do in OBS will change that or make it better. Running OBS would hurt performance the same on both CPU's

Just wanted to say it's generally a bad idea to use FX for streaming sc2 if you want the game to run well

He already has a FX... Let's focus on optimizing that.

Are you saying that regardless of FPS/resolution the resources needed to stream do not change? (If that's the case I need to change to 1080p@60...)

The way I understood it, when OBS is capturing frames, it blocks any processing on the GPU for each frame for a split second. This block happens while the picture gets transferred over the PCI-E bus to the CPU and saved into main memory. The time needed is perhaps a fixed amount per frame and there's nothing you can do about it. There's a certain percentage you will lose in the game's FPS.

The resolution stuff you configure is about the video compression. When those numbers come into play, the GPU is already done with capturing and the game's performance isn't touched any more, it's only about the processing in OBS and the video compression at that point. The video compression runs separate from the game, and the FX-8350 has eight cores! It has more resources to run things in parallel compared to an i5.
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