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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
May 01 2014 07:41 GMT
#1901
If you go into OBS, click on Help >> Open Log Folders

Then look for a log of the stream where it was skipping. The log files are named by date so it should be quite easy to track down. Then upload the contents to a pastebin or something and post the link here.

From your description though, it sounds like your upload speed is too slow for the bitrate you're streaming at.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
BreakBad
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany62 Posts
May 01 2014 22:34 GMT
#1902
On May 01 2014 16:41 ahswtini wrote:
If you go into OBS, click on Help >> Open Log Folders

Then look for a log of the stream where it was skipping. The log files are named by date so it should be quite easy to track down. Then upload the contents to a pastebin or something and post the link here.

From your description though, it sounds like your upload speed is too slow for the bitrate you're streaming at.


Thanks for your help in advance. I'm going to make your life a little difficult though >,< I can't remember which one, so it is either one of these three:

http://pastebin.com/6aP39VdN
http://pastebin.com/amncSxaf
http://pastebin.com/YPyt7VxJ

Would the problem you described be an issue of getting a slower internet? I use to stream a long ass time ago, but I moved and the internet I'm using now is slower, although the computer I'm using is better.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
May 02 2014 08:31 GMT
#1903
23:50:23: RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Stalled for 1987 ms to write 245895 bytes (buffer: 0 / 249856), unstable connection?

Yeah, it's most likely down to a slow upload speed.
Go to http://www.speedtest.net/ and run a test, make sure you and anyone else who might be on your network are not doing anything else to get the most accurate result.

The test should show you your upload speed. Put that value into appropriate box here: http://obsproject.com/estimator
It will give you a recommended maximum bitrate and buffer to use. That should solve your problem. It may be that your upload is just too poor to stream with any decent quality, in which case there's not much you can do
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
BreakBad
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany62 Posts
May 03 2014 00:02 GMT
#1904
On May 02 2014 17:31 ahswtini wrote:
23:50:23: RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Stalled for 1987 ms to write 245895 bytes (buffer: 0 / 249856), unstable connection?

Yeah, it's most likely down to a slow upload speed.
Go to http://www.speedtest.net/ and run a test, make sure you and anyone else who might be on your network are not doing anything else to get the most accurate result.

The test should show you your upload speed. Put that value into appropriate box here: http://obsproject.com/estimator
It will give you a recommended maximum bitrate and buffer to use. That should solve your problem. It may be that your upload is just too poor to stream with any decent quality, in which case there's not much you can do

Yeah i just tested it and my download speed is 52.68mbps and my upload speed is 5.18 mbps.. should there be such a big disparity between those numbers?
z0rz
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States350 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-03 00:29:58
May 03 2014 00:28 GMT
#1905
Yeah there's nothing wrong with having much higher download speeds.

The problem is that you're dropping frames at 1.7mbps but you have 5.18mbps upload. Looking at your logs, it looks like you didn't set your broadcast server (Settings > Broadcast Settings > Server > [Whatever is closest to you]). If you really are in Germany, setting your server to Frankfurt would probably help a lot. Pretty sure the default server is San Francisco.

Also, if you're on a wireless network, you might just be having some connectivity issues.
twitch.tv/fartymcbutt
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
May 03 2014 00:46 GMT
#1906
Yeah, 5.18mbps is more than enough to stream at a good quality. z0rz's advice is good, check your server settings.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
whereismymind
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom717 Posts
May 03 2014 10:36 GMT
#1907
So this is the quality I can get on 1440p.
http://www.twitch.tv/nukec/b/525391073

Bitrate 3500kbps.

Other people just can't watch the stream at this quality. So I have to accept this ey? I mean friend has 100/50 connection and he can't watch it at 1440p. Is that twitch.tv problem where they don't dedicate you good line if you are not partner?
one day.. i'll lose my mind
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20295 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-03 14:18:26
May 03 2014 14:17 GMT
#1908
On May 03 2014 19:36 whereismymind wrote:
So this is the quality I can get on 1440p.
http://www.twitch.tv/nukec/b/525391073

Bitrate 3500kbps.

Other people just can't watch the stream at this quality. So I have to accept this ey? I mean friend has 100/50 connection and he can't watch it at 1440p. Is that twitch.tv problem where they don't dedicate you good line if you are not partner?


Twitch doesn't have good connection to some people, it's very hit and miss. In 2011 and 2013, i got crazy lag, stuttering, buffering constantly even on lower resolutions, my stream would only work half of the time (literally, i timed it more than a few times)

in 2012 and 2014 i could watch multiple 1080p streams simultaneously

Just downscale res and drop towards 2k bitrate, see what works. The official LoL streams are ~720p30 @ ~2k bitrate because of this and i imagine some other reasons (not bringing the twitch servers down every time a million people tune in)

"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
z0rz
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States350 Posts
May 03 2014 16:21 GMT
#1909
Yeah, sometimes you're just at the mercy of the Twitch servers (which, like Cyro said, has historically been a problem for Europeans).
twitch.tv/fartymcbutt
Ente
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1795 Posts
May 04 2014 10:51 GMT
#1910
did someone else experience fps drops while streaming league? I streamed for quite a while without issues and I randomly got huge fps issues a few days ago (2 days ago it actually was fine for some reason)

I used to have 40-50 fps and it went down to 30 ingame and apparently it also went down for stream viewers while obs doesnt report any dropped frames or other issues
lol acc: Entenzwerg EUW http://www.twitch.tv/Entenzwerg league of legends stream (challenger EuW)
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20295 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-04 15:16:48
May 04 2014 15:16 GMT
#1911
On May 04 2014 19:51 Ente wrote:
did someone else experience fps drops while streaming league? I streamed for quite a while without issues and I randomly got huge fps issues a few days ago (2 days ago it actually was fine for some reason)

I used to have 40-50 fps and it went down to 30 ingame and apparently it also went down for stream viewers while obs doesnt report any dropped frames or other issues


That's just poor ingame performance, what is your hardware and stream settings?

I used to have 40-50 fps
that just sounds really bad for me, but casual 30fps on league of legends - how does that even happen?
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Ente
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1795 Posts
May 04 2014 16:28 GMT
#1912
for hardware:
I5 2400
12 GB Ram
radeon 6800


obs settings 2600 bitrate
720p
30 fps(reduced it to 25 to check if its still gives fps issues, for both the stream and me its a bit better, but still not great)
quality 8

I actually recorded the videos on my pc while streaming, will try with that disabled. But I used to not really have issues before and it just more or less randomly started
lol acc: Entenzwerg EUW http://www.twitch.tv/Entenzwerg league of legends stream (challenger EuW)
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20295 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-04 21:07:13
May 04 2014 21:05 GMT
#1913
So you have bad performance just in the game without running OBS - or you lose a massive amount of performance from using it, but it's fine without?

I never have below like ~100fps (maybe a little lower minimum with 10 players and death minion waves end of game) and i have 300 start of game when streaming, so that low performance is confusing to me all-round - it's League of Legends, it's pretty much the example for something that's smooth, snappy and does not require great hardware to run. i5 2400 is pretty damn acceptable, but that sounds like terrible performance to me.

If you're dropping below like ~35fps, you'll be able to see it a little on a 30fps stream
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
May 04 2014 21:44 GMT
#1914
It's possible you're overheating with the extra load from streaming, so your processor/video card is being underclocked?
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
z0rz
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States350 Posts
May 04 2014 22:29 GMT
#1915
This used to be a problem when playing windowed fullscreen and using Monitor Capture in LoL, so that'd be my guess. Use Game Capture, if you aren't already.

It always helps to upload a log and share it so we can get more details about your PC specs and OBS settings etc. (Help -> Log Files -> [Log] -> Upload).
twitch.tv/fartymcbutt
Ente
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1795 Posts
May 05 2014 09:39 GMT
#1916
So you have bad performance just in the game without running OBS - or you lose a massive amount of performance from using it, but it's fine without?

without obs im just fine with constant 60 fps(got it locked at 60)

This used to be a problem when playing windowed fullscreen and using Monitor Capture in LoL, so that'd be my guess. Use Game Capture, if you aren't already.

Im using the monitor capture will try gamecapture, I have to also admit that I didnt update obs before I had the problems so I couldnt do that beforehand because that just got added? (at least its easier to see now)

https://gist.github.com/ed1db61350740aedc0eb here is a log from yesterday, with reduced settings on lol and obs

lol acc: Entenzwerg EUW http://www.twitch.tv/Entenzwerg league of legends stream (challenger EuW)
z0rz
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States350 Posts
May 05 2014 16:28 GMT
#1917
Yep, definitely switch to Game Capture (I think you need to load into a game of LoL and minimize to properly add it via Game Capture since the game client switches window titles).

Also, "PERFORMANCE WARNING: Scene change took 1263 ms, maybe some sources should be global sources?" is popping up a lot, which means you should have your webcam under "Global Sources". Just click the Global Sources button, add your webcam, then right-click inside your 'Sources' box and Add -> Global Source -> [your webcam]. I don't know much about webcams, but you probably want to lower your webcam resolution if it's super high. Not sure what the sweet spot is, but 540p or lower would probably still look fine.
twitch.tv/fartymcbutt
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20295 Posts
May 05 2014 20:21 GMT
#1918
Not much reason to have webcam resolution higher than what it's displayed at, if you're using a 1080p source and webcam is a quarter of the screen, 540 would look good. I use 640x360 on 1080p for my vids - and then downscale.

Ente, could you check FPS without caps to see if it's pretty much 60, or if it's far higher?

I took a benchmark very recently of just running around late in game like @ 30 mins, outside of a fight~

[image loading]

but lower performance is expected, especially considering weaker CPU - i just wouldn't expect it to be either that bad, or for OBS + Game Capture to hurt performance that badly. LoL doesn't seem to be GPU intensive, especially not at lower settings - on another system with a 3770k@4.2 and a gtx260, everything maxed aside from shadows, i saw FPS in the 200's in the tutorial IIRC
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Bellatje
Profile Joined May 2014
Belgium1 Post
May 07 2014 22:03 GMT
#1919
Hey all!

I just switched over from Xplit to OBS and i had no problems untill i wanted to stream League Of Legends.
I drop in fps and like lagg ingame. I didnt aghd this problem in xplit and i don't really know how to fix this.
Cab you guy's help me?

specs:

GeFprce GTX570
Intel core I7
8 GB ram
2 1920\1080p monitors

Thanks in advance!
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
May 07 2014 22:19 GMT
#1920
How are you capturing the image? I'm going to guess that you're using monitor capture. Make sure to use Game Capture instead.
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