EPTI'll link my dxdiag and speedtest results. I hope someone can help me out!
dxdiag: http://imgur.com/a/OLshm
speedtest:
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[G] Streaming with OBS (Open Broadcaster Software) - Page 63
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EffectS
Belgium795 Posts
I'll link my dxdiag and speedtest results. I hope someone can help me out! dxdiag: http://imgur.com/a/OLshm speedtest: | ||
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z0rz
United States350 Posts
If you're capturing LoL in windowed mode, I posted a suggestion for the same problem literally two posts before you. | ||
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IneffableHymn
United States4 Posts
Currently, this is my settings in OBS: Quality : 9 Max Bitrate/Buffer Size : 4000/4000 Base Resolution : 1920x1080 Resolution Downscale : 1.5(1280x720) FPS : 35 Windows Aero : Enabled x264 CPU Preset : Very Fast This is my speedtest results. Note: I usually play the game in fullscreen, but I change it to Borderless Window when streaming. Usually, I play the game smoothly with a constant 50-60 FPS on my 15" monitor. After downscaling the resolution in OBS from 1920x1080 to 1280x720, dota 2 become somewhat playable with 30-40 fps. However, it still is kinda choppy and goes down to 20-30 fps in game. If the base resolution is not downscaled, the game is totally unplayable at 15-25 FPS for me. The only background programs running are Mozilla Firefox as I want to monitor my own stream while testing it out. Any ideas will be greatly appreciated. Thanks! | ||
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z0rz
United States350 Posts
With that said, if you're still unhappy with performance and you are currently using Monitor Capture, try using Window Capture or Game Capture instead-- they usually have less of an impact on game performance in my experiences. Just remember that you will need to switch scenes if you want to show something on your desktop (e.g. a YouTube video in between games). Also, Steam overlay (shift+tab) doesn't seem to be captured with Game Capture so that's something to keep in mind. | ||
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IneffableHymn
United States4 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20322 Posts
My CPU specs are i7 quad processor This tells us nothing - There's the i7 740qm quad core which is first gen and runs at 1.6ghz and also the 3770k, which you could overclock to something like 4.8ghz while it also has a lot more performance per clock than first gen - giving it about four times as much performance. | ||
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IneffableHymn
United States4 Posts
Not sure which generation this CPU is, and if so how do I overclock it or whatever? On a side note, my FPS in game seems to be doing better now after turning off Windows Aero and tweaking some OBS settings once again. Thanks for the replies! | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20322 Posts
I got speeds wrong a little, its the 720QM that runs at 1.6ghz. It's the worst i7, yours is one multiplier (133mhz) above, at 1.73ghz. Intel's marketing seems to be intentionally confusing to get people to overspend or not know what they are buying at times, but the CPU you have is a first gen i7 mobile. They were great, in 2009. For multithreaded performance (video encoding etc). For a laptop. Big advances have been made since and its not uncommon at all to see something like an i5-3xxxM at say, 2.6ghz - this is a 50% clock speed advantage, but Ivy Bridge has about 30% better performance at the same clock speed as Nehalem - the result is you get performance from 1*1.5*1.3 sum (baseline - 50% more clock speed - 30% more performance per clock) which would give the 2.6ghz third gen i5 a 95% performance lead - it would also use a lot less power, being newer, and probably have more aggressive turbo's due to that. The first gen i7 QM's have decent turbo's for 1 core, but they dont seem to use them very well - 2xxx and 3xxx series CPU's are much much better with that. You have 4 cores and hyperthreading, which is great for video rendering and multithreaded tasks, but almost no games can gain from hyperthreading at all and few will heavily load 4 cores. Starcraft 2 for example puts something like 80% of its load on one core - making the fact that you have 4 cores and hyperthreading pretty irrelevant, the result is that you get trashed by any faster dual core or quad core without hyperthreading. Having the 4 cores and HT helps a ton for encoding a stream, but not for making your game run, and thats where the problems are, really I would definately go Quality 10 at 1280x720, 30fps with 4mbit bitrate - hell, id even say command line to get higher crf - Assuming linear bitrate requirements, which is probably wrong, quality 10 for 1280x720, 30fps is something like quality 4 for 1920x1080, 30fps. You could probably see very visible benefits from using quality 10 or command line for better crf, but that will just make the stream look nicer, wont make your games run any better Looking back i probably exagerated the performance at the same clock speed advantage of ivy bridge - 20-25% is a more fair number, 30 might not be entirely correct in many or all situations - it's still massive though. I just took a 1280x720, 24fps clip - a low motion scene, because i didnt have anything better handy, and re-encoded it half a dozen times at Veryfast - i needed to go as low as crf16 to reach 4mbit bitrate - i think you should set something like 18-20 for good results streaming dota2/sc2/LoL at 1280x720, 30fps, 4000kbit video. AFAIK OBS quality 10 corresponds to crf25 - something like half of those bitrates. If you can, do a local record or leave OBS on a second screen or something and check the bitrates being pushed - its very possible that at that resolution and FPS with a quality (crf) limiter as relatively high as it is for the bitrate and resolution that you are not coming anywhere close to the max bitrate you have set with regular streaming | ||
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IneffableHymn
United States4 Posts
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Resisty
United States375 Posts
My upload is 5 Mbits. Intel i5 480M @ 2.67GHz ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5730 Quality: 8 Bitrate/Buffer: 2500 / 2500 Resolution: 1366x768 Downscale: 1.5 (910x512) Preset: Very Fast FPS: 30 http://www.twitch.tv/resistysan | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20322 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20322 Posts
On February 23 2013 16:40 Resisty wrote: Hi I'm wondering if there's any way to improve my stream. Running a laptop with switchable graphics (!), trying to stream a game called Blacklight. I wanted to stream at full resolution but it causes stuttering in-game and I'm not sure about these settings since laptops aren't ideal. Also, since I use a laptop, can someone tell me if the video has black bars or something weird at regular resolutions (e.g. 1280x720 or similar)? My upload is 5 Mbits. Intel i5 480M @ 2.67GHz ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5730 Quality: 8 Bitrate/Buffer: 2500 / 2500 Resolution: 1366x768 Downscale: 1.5 (910x512) Preset: Very Fast FPS: 30 http://www.twitch.tv/resistysan Seems ok, you should check CPU usage while playing and streaming so you have an idea of performance - you have first gen i5 @2.67ghz - dual core with hyperthreading - its pretty hard to place and i have no idea how much CPU Blacklight uses - with a system like your's the amount of CPU that the game uses is pretty critically important to determining settings. 1366x768 is a 16 : 9 resolution so aspect ratio is ok, stream looks good too You might want to try 10 quality - again 910x510@30fps is not a lot of pixels - with linear scaling (i have no idea if scaling is linear - i think it should be somewhere somewhat close..) it's like comparing 1920x1080@30fps with 11mbits of bitrate and not using 10 quality - you should have a good enough bitrate to resolution*fps ratio to be able to push the quality setting up with pretty much only positive effects and bitrate or other ratecontrol (the "quality" setting) do not affect game performance or CPU load. | ||
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Eisregen
Germany967 Posts
On February 21 2013 17:12 z0rz wrote: Make sure BF3, TS, and OBS are all set to the right 'default playback device' which should be your headset/speakers. Also, check the 'Communications' tab in Windows Sound settings and make sure it's set to "do nothing." Everything is set this way. I have absolutely no problem in any other game. Only bf3 is giving me trouble | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20322 Posts
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Eisregen
Germany967 Posts
On February 23 2013 20:45 Cyro wrote: I'd look for something specific to bf3 - check the ingame sound options etc. I know it's obvious, but there's probably a simple problem Yeah, I will look into it again. That game isnt only trolling me ingame, but also with streaming... :D | ||
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HotCookies
Greece149 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20322 Posts
On February 23 2013 22:17 HotCookies wrote: Just wanted to ask which is better for low upload internet connections, obs , xsplit or it doesn't matter? ( 1mb upload or less) Not really a variable, they both use almost identical if not identical encoders | ||
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Eisregen
Germany967 Posts
Normally the standard device are the speakers and the microphon. Whenever I play any game (except bf3) this game also appears in the sound volume control, like SC2, war thunder whatever game. BF3 DOES NOT APPEAR in that list and I dont have a clue through which device bf3 puts the sound, deffi not through speakers! When I monitor the sound-> playback of my speakers, the volume bars are not moving at all. Am I playing SC2 or listening to music, the speaker palyback device is used. So the problem is: BF3 does NOT use the playback device: speakers. It does some fucking magic to give me sound and I dont have a clue how and which device it actually uses... EDIT: THIS GAME IS ONE FUCKING HUGE BITCH OF A TROLL. I just restarted my PC, like I normally do after hours of using it. gave streaming one last try: WORKS...ROFL... | ||
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Resisty
United States375 Posts
On February 23 2013 16:43 Cyro wrote: Seems ok, you should check CPU usage while playing and streaming so you have an idea of performance - you have first gen i5 @2.67ghz - dual core with hyperthreading - its pretty hard to place and i have no idea how much CPU Blacklight uses - with a system like your's the amount of CPU that the game uses is pretty critically important to determining settings. 1366x768 is a 16 : 9 resolution so aspect ratio is ok, stream looks good too You might want to try 10 quality - again 910x510@30fps is not a lot of pixels - with linear scaling (i have no idea if scaling is linear - i think it should be somewhere somewhat close..) it's like comparing 1920x1080@30fps with 11mbits of bitrate and not using 10 quality - you should have a good enough bitrate to resolution*fps ratio to be able to push the quality setting up with pretty much only positive effects and bitrate or other ratecontrol (the "quality" setting) do not affect game performance or CPU load. Just to follow up on this, here is my CPU usage while playing normally and while streaming. Also I upped the quality to 10 since there wasn't any performance hit from it. This is probably as good as I can make my stream from what I can see.  + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/08A5E3D.png) + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/on241vI.png) | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20322 Posts
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