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mrgoochio
Profile Joined April 2009
United States557 Posts
February 09 2013 11:53 GMT
#1141
Why does my OBS FPS take such a hard hit when I have my stream open on the same computer? I feel like it has something to do with hardware encoding vs software encoding when my browser views the stream or something but I don't think it should be this bad. Any ideas?
chengysogood
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10343 Posts
February 09 2013 19:40 GMT
#1142
Because flash player is awful.
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foladar
Profile Joined February 2013
6 Posts
February 09 2013 23:38 GMT
#1143
I've tried streaming WoW with this but it doesn't appear under Game Capture, is the only way with OBS to do a screen capture?
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-10 01:10:57
February 10 2013 00:55 GMT
#1144
On February 10 2013 08:38 foladar wrote:
I've tried streaming WoW with this but it doesn't appear under Game Capture, is the only way with OBS to do a screen capture?


try the 32bit version, the 64bit version is doing the same and not detecting any applications.

cant stream wow or skyrim either.

re installed and its detecting now..
savior did nothing wrong
foladar
Profile Joined February 2013
6 Posts
February 10 2013 01:34 GMT
#1145
Weird, on my other PC, it crashes WOW with error 132
mrgoochio
Profile Joined April 2009
United States557 Posts
February 10 2013 02:40 GMT
#1146
On February 10 2013 04:40 R1CH wrote:
Because flash player is awful.

Is there anything that can be done about it? I see most people with their channel pages or dashboard pages open without an issue. I can't stream with either open or else my streaming takes a major dump
chengysogood
KingDime
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada750 Posts
February 10 2013 03:08 GMT
#1147
I was wondering what I could expect out of my streaming when I pick up my new setup this week. Planning to
use it for HOTS streaming as well as speedrunning various games on SRL hopefully.

i5 3570k @ 3.4ghz
Geforce GTX 660 Ti
16 gb of ram

[image loading]

Values seem a little different taking them on my laptop. Usually
it's 50 download and 20ish ping on the desktop so maybe I did
something wrong. Same upload though
Doom Guy
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
February 10 2013 13:45 GMT
#1148
Good quality, 1280x720@60fps/1920x1080@30fps, veryfast (stock 3570k fits those template settings well) and something like 2300kbit video bitrate, 128k audio so good stream but not super insane. You can pick out 2.3k bitrate stream as opposed to 3k/3.5k pretty easily at those resolutions in terms of lower quality but its not a really big deal
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Thalandros
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Netherlands1151 Posts
February 10 2013 14:10 GMT
#1149
Hmm, what about me?:

AMD Phenom II x6 @ 2.8Ghz
HD radeon 6970
4GB of RAM (Will be 16 soon.)

[image loading]
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Crowley.
Profile Joined December 2012
14 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-10 15:09:59
February 10 2013 15:01 GMT
#1150
edit: resolved (using this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xCl1BD88fw)
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
February 10 2013 15:09 GMT
#1151
On February 10 2013 23:10 Thalandros wrote:
Hmm, what about me?:

AMD Phenom II x6 @ 2.8Ghz
HD radeon 6970
4GB of RAM (Will be 16 soon.)

[image loading]


Weaker than above, id say base on 1280x720@40-50fps - 1920x1080@20fps or something between them - use pixels as a baseline if you dont know resolutions well as its a pretty good estimation of CPU load (x*y*z, for example 1920*1080*20)

Veryfast as always, and you should be able to go to 3k, 3.5k or even like 4k if you really want video bitrate, 128k audio with the right stream server.

Game wont run as well though on a PhenII
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-10 15:12:45
February 10 2013 15:11 GMT
#1152
On February 11 2013 00:01 Crowley. wrote:
Anybody know why when I stream in 1080p or 720p the quality on the twitch video isn't actually that good? I'm just struggling with settings in general I guess; I have a 50down/10up connection and my computer has an i5-2550k with 8gb of fast RAM and a GTX 570 but I can't figure out what the optimal settings are, I've tried the excel document in the front page but I'm still not totally confident with my values. Is 10000 max bitrate, 128 buffer size, 128 bitrate, 1920x1080 resolution, 1 ratio (no downscaling), 30 fps the correct settings values or am I doing something incorrectly here? Thanks for your advice.


Set quality in OBS to 10 and use Veryfast preset, use 3.5k bitrate and buffer size (not sure where you got 128 from)

You dont want to use too high because viewers cant watch and it can cause problems for watching on twitch (unstable stream sometimes even if upload is ok) so 3.5k is about as high as you would want to go
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
foladar
Profile Joined February 2013
6 Posts
February 11 2013 02:39 GMT
#1153
For some reason, my video hitches alot when I'm viewing it on my dashboard, but my client of OBS says no dropped frames, so I'm not really sure what settings to adjust, if it's just Flash player being annoying, or what's going on.

I have an i5 2400, 8gb ram, Windows 8 with a Radeon 6850.
Download 25mbps, Upload 2.29mbps

I've been adjusting settings but I'm currently at 6 quality, 1700 bitrate with AAC 128 on audio. Not really sure what to adjust since it's still hitching but showing no dropped frames.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
February 11 2013 02:59 GMT
#1154
Check/change your stream server
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
z0rz
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States350 Posts
February 11 2013 07:39 GMT
#1155
I finally got around to benchmarking XSplit and OBS. The details are in the spreadsheet. I only recorded at 1080p30 because it was taking too much time

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvQ3ZftoJ_tEdEhXWDJkQlQ4STFWSUhqQmYyU0huVEE&usp=sharing#gid=0

Let me know if I forgot to mention something.. my brain isn't firing on all cylinders right now haha
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-11 08:21:11
February 11 2013 08:18 GMT
#1156
^This is good.

Your average FPS is questionably low though - 9 and 12 FPS minimums on the best performing options, 73/87 max and barely breaking 30 averages? Its too low, are you running the game maxed? (edit: Yes and im an idiot for somehow missing that in reading info - even so, its too low performance)

You state you start recording at a later stage of the game, but there is no info about the game - are both players maxed with 30 broodlords spamming hundreds of infested terrans, etcetc? I dont have HOTS client, cant watch the replay. If so, you should see something like 30fps minimums with such a CPU - adding OBS/Xsplit does not account for losing two thirds of your framerate. You have a 2600k @4.3ghz, the results are unacceptably low and i have no idea why.

You miss one key detail - FPS with the game running and nothing interfering with it - and id also appriciate some data at half resolution (960x540), you dont need four gamesource stats for aero on/off and optimization on/off - just throw the best performing option on (aero off, optimization on) and bench at 960x540 - do the same for screen region as well as OBS game and maybe window capture.

Its a lot of time to ask, i know (i was going to do this myself and probably still will after looking at this data - for a point of comparison) but it should be good.

[image loading]
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Thezftw
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland116 Posts
February 11 2013 10:50 GMT
#1157
How would this run (sc2/dota2/maybe wow?)

P2X6 3,7ghz
Hd 6870
[image loading]
Sixac
Profile Joined April 2011
Finland5 Posts
February 11 2013 12:35 GMT
#1158
On February 11 2013 19:50 Thezftw wrote:
How would this run (sc2/dota2/maybe wow?)

P2X6 3,7ghz
Hd 6870
[image loading]


http://obsproject.com/estimator
Flaiker
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany235 Posts
February 11 2013 12:56 GMT
#1159
On February 11 2013 21:35 Sixac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2013 19:50 Thezftw wrote:
How would this run (sc2/dota2/maybe wow?)

P2X6 3,7ghz
Hd 6870
[image loading]


http://obsproject.com/estimator

Oh my god. Since when does this site exist?
...
z0rz
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States350 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-11 13:25:10
February 11 2013 13:23 GMT
#1160
On February 11 2013 17:18 Cyro wrote:
^This is good.

Your average FPS is questionably low though - 9 and 12 FPS minimums on the best performing options, 73/87 max and barely breaking 30 averages? Its too low, are you running the game maxed? (edit: Yes and im an idiot for somehow missing that in reading info - even so, its too low performance)

You state you start recording at a later stage of the game, but there is no info about the game - are both players maxed with 30 broodlords spamming hundreds of infested terrans, etcetc? I dont have HOTS client, cant watch the replay. If so, you should see something like 30fps minimums with such a CPU - adding OBS/Xsplit does not account for losing two thirds of your framerate. You have a 2600k @4.3ghz, the results are unacceptably low and i have no idea why.

You miss one key detail - FPS with the game running and nothing interfering with it - and id also appriciate some data at half resolution (960x540), you dont need four gamesource stats for aero on/off and optimization on/off - just throw the best performing option on (aero off, optimization on) and bench at 960x540 - do the same for screen region as well as OBS game and maybe window capture.

Its a lot of time to ask, i know (i was going to do this myself and probably still will after looking at this data - for a point of comparison) but it should be good.

[image loading]

Yeah, it's basically a late game 200 vs 200 TvZ marine/medivac/tank/viking vs broodlord/corruptor slugfest with some base trading and 300+ apm camera spam etc. I'm not too concerned about the min and max numbers since there are moments where an insane amount of action is going on and there are moments when the player scrolls over dead space. The numbers themselves aren't that important; it's the comparison between them that matters.

It wouldn't be hard to go back and run a benchmark on the game without any interference from streaming programs, but that's not really the purpose of my testing. All that would really show is that you do, in fact, sacrifice some FPS when streaming. I wanted to provide numbers for anyone that was wondering if there was a measurable difference in performance between OBS and XSplit, not the general impact streaming has on FPS.

And about testing with Aero enabled/disabled-- that was done in fairness to XSplit because their FAQ insists that you should try with and without Aero when using Game Source ( http://www.xsplit.com/forum/faq.php#f4r3 ). Now that I have what seems to be the best combination of settings for each capture method (for SC2, at least), I can probably knock out a 960x540 run much more quickly.
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