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SAlechko
Profile Joined October 2012
Israel15 Posts
October 30 2014 09:58 GMT
#841
On October 28 2014 13:44 CorsairHero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2014 19:36 SAlechko wrote:
Quick question, does the HE-500 need an amplifier or DAC?


no, you can listen to it out of your iphone. But it would sound like shit.

Would it sound better with an upgraded amp? Yes, at least something like a Schitt Asgard 2 (Not USB powered). Upgrade your DAC depending on your source files.

I haven't heard them myself, but they've been widely talked about with positive reviews


Thanks for replying, I've been considering getting an O2. Would that be acceptable? What do you look for when choosing an amp or DAC, aside from price tag? I also assume there are pretty big diminishing returns as the price goes higher?
A3th3r
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
United States319 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-30 22:24:47
October 30 2014 22:24 GMT
#842
As far as price/quality goes, I lose it to Sony MDEA's. I mean just look at em! they are dead sexy things. I think Target Greatland has them for about $20 or so.
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ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
October 30 2014 23:23 GMT
#843
On October 23 2014 04:48 ThomasjServo wrote:
Any recommendations for commuting headphones/desk work? Over ear preferred, hoping to keep things on the cheaper end (sub 40$)

ATH-AZ1iS got the Audio Techinca bit, and it is pretty great for the price range/purpose.
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-31 02:20:24
October 31 2014 01:57 GMT
#844
On October 30 2014 18:58 SAlechko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2014 13:44 CorsairHero wrote:
On October 27 2014 19:36 SAlechko wrote:
Quick question, does the HE-500 need an amplifier or DAC?


no, you can listen to it out of your iphone. But it would sound like shit.

Would it sound better with an upgraded amp? Yes, at least something like a Schitt Asgard 2 (Not USB powered). Upgrade your DAC depending on your source files.

I haven't heard them myself, but they've been widely talked about with positive reviews


Thanks for replying, I've been considering getting an O2. Would that be acceptable? What do you look for when choosing an amp or DAC, aside from price tag? I also assume there are pretty big diminishing returns as the price goes higher?

eeek maybe. Apparently the HE500 needs 1W per channel. I don' t think the O2 can provide that, but that doesn't mean it will sound terrible. Some people have said the pairing is fine. Google is your friend here if you don't have access to both at the same time.

As for what to look for...either you go by what you read online or you go into a store to try it out. Go to a store that has an HE-500 and try it with a bunch of dac/amp combos. How it sounds to you is all you really need as an indicator aside from the technical details in a DAC like DSD support or w/e.

If i was going to get the HE-500, I would get a Schitt Asgard and a Bifrost. Schitt Magni/Modi might be enough as well.

A friend of mine has an Sennheiser HD600 and Matrix mini-i. That's probably the point of diminishing returns for me personally. Then again, something an ATH-M50 and Fiio E10 might be all you need depending on your needs. That combo is only $200.
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tRuE008
Profile Joined March 2009
United States54 Posts
October 31 2014 05:00 GMT
#845
On October 31 2014 10:57 CorsairHero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2014 18:58 SAlechko wrote:
On October 28 2014 13:44 CorsairHero wrote:
On October 27 2014 19:36 SAlechko wrote:
Quick question, does the HE-500 need an amplifier or DAC?


no, you can listen to it out of your iphone. But it would sound like shit.

Would it sound better with an upgraded amp? Yes, at least something like a Schitt Asgard 2 (Not USB powered). Upgrade your DAC depending on your source files.

I haven't heard them myself, but they've been widely talked about with positive reviews


Thanks for replying, I've been considering getting an O2. Would that be acceptable? What do you look for when choosing an amp or DAC, aside from price tag? I also assume there are pretty big diminishing returns as the price goes higher?

eeek maybe. Apparently the HE500 needs 1W per channel. I don' t think the O2 can provide that, but that doesn't mean it will sound terrible. Some people have said the pairing is fine. Google is your friend here if you don't have access to both at the same time.

As for what to look for...either you go by what you read online or you go into a store to try it out. Go to a store that has an HE-500 and try it with a bunch of dac/amp combos. How it sounds to you is all you really need as an indicator aside from the technical details in a DAC like DSD support or w/e.

If i was going to get the HE-500, I would get a Schitt Asgard and a Bifrost. Schitt Magni/Modi might be enough as well.

A friend of mine has an Sennheiser HD600 and Matrix mini-i. That's probably the point of diminishing returns for me personally. Then again, something an ATH-M50 and Fiio E10 might be all you need depending on your needs. That combo is only $200.


HE500 is an amazing can, but discontinued. The HE560 should be better based on the reviews I've read.

I do have the HE500 and I find it to be a great all around headphones, sounds good with all genres. The HE500 even gets more head time than my Beyer T1. The HE500 may be low in impedance, but not very efficient. It requires more power than most headphones. I would go with an OTL amp for the HE500. Something like the Darkvoice 336se. This combo has been talked a lot on headfi. However, I would assume the Magni/Modi would enough.

I also have the ATH-M50, pretty good for the price. Don't really need an amp or dac for the M50 though.

I don't have the HD600, but I do have the HD650. Both are amazing cans.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/634201/battle-of-the-flagships-58-headphones-compared-update-audeze-lcd-2-revision-2-6-4-13
Really good review right here, but a little outdated. In terms of price to performance ratio: HE500 > HD600 > HE400 > DT880 (600 ohm) > ATH-AD900. This is according to the reviewer.
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
October 31 2014 06:51 GMT
#846
i think the only thing stopping me from getting an HE-500 is the weight
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Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
October 31 2014 18:13 GMT
#847
HE560 sounded uninspiring out of SS amps, preferred T1 hehe. HE560 has the same problem as LCDs, weight, sound is unnatural, pads consume vibrate weirdly contribute to weird sound. Bass is amazing though.
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tRuE008
Profile Joined March 2009
United States54 Posts
October 31 2014 19:43 GMT
#848
Weight has always been an issue with planar magnetic headphones. However, I don't have an issue with the HE500, and I'm a fairly small Asian. I could listen to the HE500 for hours without any weight concerns. The HE560 is 377g. The HE500 is 502g. I would go for the HE560 if I don't already have the HE500.

I'm powering my HE500 out of an SS amp, and it sounds better than the T1 out of the same amp. I'm actually considering buying the Woo Audio WA2 for the T1 at the end of this year. Or I could wait till next year and see what amp Audeze is building for their new LCD-Z. If that amp sucks, I would most likely get the Apex Teton. Bottom line, I want an OTL amp.
Aylear
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Norway3988 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-03 02:23:29
November 02 2014 08:56 GMT
#849
Hi folks.

I'm looking for a really good set of "gaming" headphones. I own several headphones that I've used for music and music production, but they aren't surround and they don't have the directional sound accuracy that a specialized pair would offer.

The few "gaming" headphones I've tried have been pretty garbage. In my experience they tend to completely kill low frequencies and offer a very shallow (albeit directionally accurate) soundscape, which really ruins my enjoyment of an otherwise immersive game or film. This time, to avoid all that garbage, I'm doing a lot of research and I'm willing to spend a good bit of money to get a good experience.
  • I'll be using them primarily for gaming and the occasional film.
  • Good microphone preferred, but optional; if I have to I'll keep using my mounted production microphone, so if some otherwise godlike headphones don't have a microphone you can suggest them anyway.
  • Willing to spend a not insignificant amount -- up to $450 if you can explain why they're worth the price.
Thus, if anyone can recommend either some good (preferably circumaural) open or semi-open headphones that fit the bill, or even just give me a good starting point so that I can explore my options a bit, I would really appreciate it.

Ones I've looked at so far:
  • Sennheiser PC 360 / 363D
    Supposedly really good surround sound with a decent microphone. The ones I would probably buy right now if I had to just pick one. What's the difference between the 360 and the 363?

  • Sennheiser G4ME ONE
    Came recommended from a couple of people I asked (I'm sensing a trend of "expensive Sennheiser headphones being pretty acceptable overall"), but supposedly from an audiophile standpoint the sound is pretty weak for the price.

  • Turtle Beach i30/i60
    Generally well reviewed but boy they're ugly and don't look very comfortable.

    Edit 1:
  • Audio Technica ATH-AD700
    Recommended by Dismay below. These are hard to find now, and apparently they suffer from weak bass so the sound is the kind of tinny flat sound that I hate from gaming headsets.
Cheers.
TL+ Member
Dismay
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1180 Posts
November 02 2014 19:13 GMT
#850
On November 02 2014 17:56 Aylear wrote:
Hi folks.

I'm looking for a really good set of "gaming" headphones. I own several headphones that I've used for music and music production, but they aren't surround and they don't have the directional sound accuracy that a specialized pair would offer.

The few "gaming" headphones I've tried have been pretty garbage. In my experience they tend to completely kill low frequencies and offer a very shallow (albeit directionally accurate) soundscape, which really ruins my enjoyment of an otherwise immersive game or film. This time, to avoid all that garbage, I'm doing a lot of research and I'm willing to spend a good bit of money to get a good experience.
  • I'll be using them primarily for gaming and the occasional film.
  • Good microphone preferred, but optional; if I have to I'll keep using my mounted production microphone, so if some otherwise godlike headphones don't have a microphone you can suggest them anyway.
  • Willing to spend a not insignificant amount -- up to $450 if you can explain why they're worth the price.
Thus, if anyone can recommend either some good (preferably circumaural) open or semi-open headphones that fit the bill, or even just give me a good starting point so that I can explore my options a bit, I would really appreciate it.

Ones I've looked at so far:
  • Sennheiser PC 360 / 363D
    Supposedly really good surround sound with a decent microphone. The ones I would probably buy right now if I had to just pick one. What's the difference between the 360 and the 363?

  • Sennheiser G4ME ONE
    Came recommended from a couple of people I asked (I'm sensing a trend of "expensive Sennheiser headphones being pretty acceptable overall"), but supposedly from an audiophile standpoint the sound is pretty weak for the price.

  • Turtle Beach i30/i60
    Generally well reviewed but boy they're ugly and don't look very comfortable.
Cheers.

The ATH AD700s are pretty much universally approved and are pretty cheap. They may be discontinued now, but their successor, the AD700x, is basically the same thing I've heard. I use the AD700s for gaming myself and they're fantastic. No microphone, though.
In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same.
Aylear
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Norway3988 Posts
November 03 2014 02:59 GMT
#851
Dismay: Hard to find, plus they apparently have that really weak bass that drives me nuts. Thanks, but no thanks.
TL+ Member
Ercster
Profile Joined August 2011
United States603 Posts
November 04 2014 21:14 GMT
#852
I'm looking to replace my A40's, but I want to keep the mixamp just for being able to switch audio between my PC and consoles. Does anyone know of any good replacements that will work with the mixamp, or a cheap mixer that will do what the Astro mixamp does? The headset that I've been recommended by a friend was the Sennheiser G4ME ONE, but they didn't know if it would work with the mixamp.
“The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it.” -Neil deGrasse Tyson
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3434 Posts
November 05 2014 05:58 GMT
#853
Hey guys, any idea what headphones would go well with Fiio e10k? I'm currently using Superlux 681Evo and modded Sennheiser HD 555, which I both like quite a lot. I'm looking to invest up to $300 usd (keep in mind, however, that depending on the brand headphones in Poland are $50-150 more expensive than in the US). I want the headphones to be open / semi-open, since I'll be using them only at home. Comfort of use is really important as well and a removable cable would be an added bonus.

I'm new to the audio game and I'm not certain what kind of sound I like the best (I liked the previous headphones, even though they are not really similiar to each other in terms of sound). The new headphones will be used for both listening to music (pretty much all genres equally - electronic, chillout, trance, dnb, lots of instrumentals, classical, rock, jazz, some pop) and gaming.

Any worthy suggestions for a beginner?
tRuE008
Profile Joined March 2009
United States54 Posts
November 05 2014 06:34 GMT
#854
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 03 2014 11:59 Aylear wrote:
Dismay: Hard to find, plus they apparently have that really weak bass that drives me nuts. Thanks, but no thanks.

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 05 2014 06:14 Ercster wrote:
I'm looking to replace my A40's, but I want to keep the mixamp just for being able to switch audio between my PC and consoles. Does anyone know of any good replacements that will work with the mixamp, or a cheap mixer that will do what the Astro mixamp does? The headset that I've been recommended by a friend was the Sennheiser G4ME ONE, but they didn't know if it would work with the mixamp.


I have never used a gaming headset before, but this might help:
http://www.head-fi.org/a/head-fi-buying-guide-gaming-headphones
http://www.head-fi.org/products/category/gaming-headsets


+ Show Spoiler +
On November 05 2014 14:58 True_Spike wrote:
Hey guys, any idea what headphones would go well with Fiio e10k? I'm currently using Superlux 681Evo and modded Sennheiser HD 555, which I both like quite a lot. I'm looking to invest up to $300 usd (keep in mind, however, that depending on the brand headphones in Poland are $50-150 more expensive than in the US). I want the headphones to be open / semi-open, since I'll be using them only at home. Comfort of use is really important as well and a removable cable would be an added bonus.

I'm new to the audio game and I'm not certain what kind of sound I like the best (I liked the previous headphones, even though they are not really similiar to each other in terms of sound). The new headphones will be used for both listening to music (pretty much all genres equally - electronic, chillout, trance, dnb, lots of instrumentals, classical, rock, jazz, some pop) and gaming.

Any worthy suggestions for a beginner?


If you are only spending $300, you should just stick with what you have for now.
Here is a link to mid-level headphones though:
http://www.head-fi.org/a/head-fi-buying-guide-over-ear-headphones
For around $300, the only headphone that I'm interested in is the Phillips Fidelio X2, but you could also check out the Beyerdynamic DT880, Sennheiser HD600, and AKG K701 for starters.
Skirmjan
Profile Joined October 2012
Italy190 Posts
November 10 2014 14:07 GMT
#855
This is the place to talk of sound cards, right? I only see talks of headphones, correct me if i'm wrong xD

I'm seeking advice over which soundcard to buy, my headphones (which i use 99% of the time) are+ Show Spoiler +
the SHC2000 (which are probably suckish, but they were gifted to me and they work fine for what i do)

I used to own a Xonar DG sound card which was a perfect fit for me....... until it made my PC unstable with frequent bluescreens each time i decided to use the jacks or just at random times (tried changing PCI slots on the mobo, screwing it in place even if i have a screwless case, and what not, lately it got much worse and it's probably broken outright now)

So i'm looking for a replacement of that card, and i really don't want to buy another Xonar DG, it feels pointless but apparently it has no real competitors in that price range except the Soundblaster Audigy FX i think? would that card be an upgrade, downgrade or pretty much the same compared to what i'm used to?

Thanks in advance

TL;DR; looking for a soundcard that costs <35€ that is on par or better than the Xonar DG, if there's any <.<
Thalandros
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Netherlands1151 Posts
November 10 2014 15:39 GMT
#856
On November 02 2014 17:56 Aylear wrote:
Hi folks.

I'm looking for a really good set of "gaming" headphones. I own several headphones that I've used for music and music production, but they aren't surround and they don't have the directional sound accuracy that a specialized pair would offer.

The few "gaming" headphones I've tried have been pretty garbage. In my experience they tend to completely kill low frequencies and offer a very shallow (albeit directionally accurate) soundscape, which really ruins my enjoyment of an otherwise immersive game or film. This time, to avoid all that garbage, I'm doing a lot of research and I'm willing to spend a good bit of money to get a good experience.
  • I'll be using them primarily for gaming and the occasional film.
  • Good microphone preferred, but optional; if I have to I'll keep using my mounted production microphone, so if some otherwise godlike headphones don't have a microphone you can suggest them anyway.
  • Willing to spend a not insignificant amount -- up to $450 if you can explain why they're worth the price.
Thus, if anyone can recommend either some good (preferably circumaural) open or semi-open headphones that fit the bill, or even just give me a good starting point so that I can explore my options a bit, I would really appreciate it.

Ones I've looked at so far:
  • Sennheiser PC 360 / 363D
    Supposedly really good surround sound with a decent microphone. The ones I would probably buy right now if I had to just pick one. What's the difference between the 360 and the 363?

  • Sennheiser G4ME ONE
    Came recommended from a couple of people I asked (I'm sensing a trend of "expensive Sennheiser headphones being pretty acceptable overall"), but supposedly from an audiophile standpoint the sound is pretty weak for the price.

  • Turtle Beach i30/i60
    Generally well reviewed but boy they're ugly and don't look very comfortable.

    Edit 1:
  • Audio Technica ATH-AD700
    Recommended by Dismay below. These are hard to find now, and apparently they suffer from weak bass so the sound is the kind of tinny flat sound that I hate from gaming headsets.
Cheers.



have you taken a look at the HyperX headsets? I know they're originally made by another manufacturor, but can't remember the name. Hearing very good things about overall sound and build quality, and of course, they sponsor liquid. No microphone, but it would probably be my buy if I wasn't so amazed by my Sennheiser HD 598's which do just fine for gaming i.m.o. Even has ''E.A.R. technology''. Sound isn't super important to me in games in terms of competitivity, so I prefer having an awesome soundrange as well as very comfortable, mid-range headphones with it. Will never trade 'em for a headset ever again! You've got to keep in mind to make them ''gaming grade'', a lot of the budget normally made for the cans is now spent on marketing and advertising, so that overall quality always goes bad. I think anything that has the name ''gamer'' behind it already makes me shudder in terms of headphones, anyway.

But if you do want to go the gaming route, I'd advise the HyperX headset from what I've seen.
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CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
November 13 2014 22:27 GMT
#857
On November 05 2014 15:34 tRuE008 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 03 2014 11:59 Aylear wrote:
Dismay: Hard to find, plus they apparently have that really weak bass that drives me nuts. Thanks, but no thanks.

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 05 2014 06:14 Ercster wrote:
I'm looking to replace my A40's, but I want to keep the mixamp just for being able to switch audio between my PC and consoles. Does anyone know of any good replacements that will work with the mixamp, or a cheap mixer that will do what the Astro mixamp does? The headset that I've been recommended by a friend was the Sennheiser G4ME ONE, but they didn't know if it would work with the mixamp.


I have never used a gaming headset before, but this might help:
http://www.head-fi.org/a/head-fi-buying-guide-gaming-headphones
http://www.head-fi.org/products/category/gaming-headsets


+ Show Spoiler +
On November 05 2014 14:58 True_Spike wrote:
Hey guys, any idea what headphones would go well with Fiio e10k? I'm currently using Superlux 681Evo and modded Sennheiser HD 555, which I both like quite a lot. I'm looking to invest up to $300 usd (keep in mind, however, that depending on the brand headphones in Poland are $50-150 more expensive than in the US). I want the headphones to be open / semi-open, since I'll be using them only at home. Comfort of use is really important as well and a removable cable would be an added bonus.

I'm new to the audio game and I'm not certain what kind of sound I like the best (I liked the previous headphones, even though they are not really similiar to each other in terms of sound). The new headphones will be used for both listening to music (pretty much all genres equally - electronic, chillout, trance, dnb, lots of instrumentals, classical, rock, jazz, some pop) and gaming.

Any worthy suggestions for a beginner?


If you are only spending $300, you should just stick with what you have for now.
Here is a link to mid-level headphones though:
http://www.head-fi.org/a/head-fi-buying-guide-over-ear-headphones
For around $300, the only headphone that I'm interested in is the Phillips Fidelio X2, but you could also check out the Beyerdynamic DT880, Sennheiser HD600, and AKG K701 for starters.


good list. As much as I want to like the K701 (i think the white one looks amazing), the HD600 wins hands down for me. BTW, the Q701 replaced the K701 and has replaceable cables.
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Westy
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
England808 Posts
November 24 2014 21:52 GMT
#858
Hey Guys. Rather than creating a new thread I figured I would ask this here, although it is a speakers and TV question.

So I have a 5.1 speaker system for my computer. The usual stuff. Two back speakers, to front speakers, one actual front speaker, and a sub. The speakers plug into the sub, then the sub plugs into my PC with 3 audio jacks.

I recently purchased a Samsung HD smart TV. I was wondering how I plug my speakers into the TV to get surround sound while watching films and TV? There is not 3 audio jack slots on the TV like there is on the computer. There are only two (left and right).

Any ideas?
Westy
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
England808 Posts
December 01 2014 08:53 GMT
#859
Anybody? I was sure this would be the place to ask! Guess I will wait a couple more days then make a thread instead.
Thalandros
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Netherlands1151 Posts
January 20 2015 14:52 GMT
#860
I've been having a bit of an issue with my current HD 598. I love it to bits, it's brilliant. However, I've recently started witnessing some tears from the headphones' headband...[image loading]

(Sorry, Nexus 4 camera is shite and can't really focus..)

I have the same problem (albeit very much smaller) on the other side of the headband, but that part is laying on the desk so you can't see. Should I be worried?

I hope someone can help me! Thanks in advance.
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