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Cyclone999
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada331 Posts
December 19 2011 03:54 GMT
#21
Well, I have a Samsung Galaxy SII which I got about 3 weeks ago (lucky me :D ) and so far, it's been really, really nice. Provided, I've never played with an iPhone but I've had a humble iPod (3rd gen) and although I've spent my share with that (3-4 years) I've come to appreciate Android just a tad bit more.

The Samsung Galaxy S II kind of fufills your features:

Best possible screen,colors,display
Good response
Fast processor (hate it when it gets slowed down a bit , the samsung does it sometimes)
Be able to watch 1080p videos from youtube.
Be able to watch live streams from TL.net
Have easy access to my gmail, hotmail
Have a google map app and run smooth.


First, let me state that I'm not here to rub "Samsung Galaxy S II is the best!" but I'm just stating about my phone and why I think it's pretty good.

With the Super AMOLED screen, they say that the screen looks really nice, even compared to a higher resolution. I haven't played with the Galaxy Nexus but if you could afford that, go for it. The processor's a 1.2GHz Dual-Core Exynos (?) processor, but there are some with 1.5GHz (but it's basically the same because of the archiculture, just like AMD vs Intel)

I can watch livestreams straight from Teamliquid, because of the Flash support. It's great :D I love it, keeps me entertained during dinnertime.

Your last two features are kinda "every phone SHOULD be able to do that" so I can't really comment on that (maybe the Maps one, but eh)

I also like Android because, as a developer (I'm working on it xD) I'd much rather pay $25 and publish as many apps as possible to the Android market then $99 a YEAR to publish apps to the App Store AND have it possibly rejected by Apple.

So far, I'm really happy with my phone, it's a huge upgrade from my iPod (lol, kind of my first 'phone') and I love everything about it. One last thing about why I love it -> Widgets (honestly, if iOS had Widgets I would love it, but it doesn't.)
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jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-19 04:08:01
December 19 2011 04:04 GMT
#22
On December 19 2011 12:54 Cyclone999 wrote:
Well, I have a Samsung Galaxy SII which I got about 3 weeks ago (lucky me :D ) and so far, it's been really, really nice. Provided, I've never played with an iPhone but I've had a humble iPod (3rd gen) and although I've spent my share with that (3-4 years) I've come to appreciate Android just a tad bit more.

The Samsung Galaxy S II kind of fufills your features:
Show nested quote +

Best possible screen,colors,display
Good response
Fast processor (hate it when it gets slowed down a bit , the samsung does it sometimes)
Be able to watch 1080p videos from youtube.
Be able to watch live streams from TL.net
Have easy access to my gmail, hotmail
Have a google map app and run smooth.


First, let me state that I'm not here to rub "Samsung Galaxy S II is the best!" but I'm just stating about my phone and why I think it's pretty good.

With the Super AMOLED screen, they say that the screen looks really nice, even compared to a higher resolution. I haven't played with the Galaxy Nexus but if you could afford that, go for it. The processor's a 1.2GHz Dual-Core Exynos (?) processor, but there are some with 1.5GHz (but it's basically the same because of the archiculture, just like AMD vs Intel)

I can watch livestreams straight from Teamliquid, because of the Flash support. It's great :D I love it, keeps me entertained during dinnertime.

Your last two features are kinda "every phone SHOULD be able to do that" so I can't really comment on that (maybe the Maps one, but eh)

I also like Android because, as a developer (I'm working on it xD) I'd much rather pay $25 and publish as many apps as possible to the Android market then $99 a YEAR to publish apps to the App Store AND have it possibly rejected by Apple.

So far, I'm really happy with my phone, it's a huge upgrade from my iPod (lol, kind of my first 'phone') and I love everything about it. One last thing about why I love it -> Widgets (honestly, if iOS had Widgets I would love it, but it doesn't.)


Not trying to be a dbag. But that's why the App Store is good for consumers (even though it might suck for developers). Apple's high standards and possible rejection is almost like a guarantee the Apps you pay for will be worth it. Pay = Commitment = Better product. I'd rather have an App made by someone who made the commitment to pay $99/year than by someone who's just wanting to make a quick buck, even if he is more knowledgeable. That way, I know I'll have future support, upgrades, etc.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-19 05:27:55
December 19 2011 05:25 GMT
#23
Next time I have another iPhone vs Android debate with my brother who's argument is "Android is better. I'm an engineer, I should know" (although his company only endorses iPhone as company phones, and not for exchange reasons I'm sure), I'm going to pull this out. He says my phone and his phone only lock up and we have to do battery pulls because it's made by Motorola. "Samsung phones don't do this," he says.

And, maybe that's why the decided to allow people to have a removable battery. And everyone thought that was a feature


All OEMs have had problems sometime in their history ranging from Motorola's love for pentile and putting defective SD card readers in the Xoom to Samsung fucking up their WP7 mobiles enough that Microsoft updates brick them. I don't really blame them for their lack of effort, Google's business model for Android basically sucks all of the profit out of everything so OEMs don't really give a shit about their hardware so long someone buys it.

Ironing the bugs takes a lot of time and effort and even the most careful developers still get them (see: Apple iOS5 battery bug). The difference is that Apple makes a lot of money from it and has an actual incentive to fix them while Motorola is content to release a new flagship phone every 3 months.
ffswowsucks
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Greece2294 Posts
December 19 2011 08:03 GMT
#24
When my wife first got the Samsung Galaxy S, I was playing with it, thinking that this phone is great and that you dont need an iPhone and all that. Now after 5 months I believe it is, we even discussed it a bit this morning she says her phone has major issues, it doesnt respond well from time to time, she needs to do a power off/on to get it started up again and she says that Samsung had alot of problems with the Galaxy S. I am keen towards Nexus but is the LG that much different than the Nexus that costs double the money? I am sure the Nexu's price will drop eventually that always happen, but even though the idea of buying a new phone came from my wife, and I wasnt really planning on buying one now with all these cool features which till now I havent been using im excited to get one, like in the next week or something. So real question is this. Is the Nexus a value for money phone in comparison to a LG that came out months ago and has the half price? I even saw many reviews on the internet people comparing the Galaxy S2 and the Nexus vs the LG so that means the LG is close to what a samsung offers. Right?
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Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
December 19 2011 08:21 GMT
#25
The Nexus series of phones for Android are a representation of the Android platform. No other place will you get the pure Android experience. Its currently more expensive than the Galaxy S2 because its extremely new but after a while the price should decrease dramatically when all of the new smartphones, running Tegra 3 and Krait processors, come out. This should not take very long.

I've always been a proponent of the Nexus series of phones, though Samsung has seemed to screwed this up by releasing certain Galaxy Nexus phones with their own firmware. This renders some Galaxy Nexus phones unable to accept updates from Google...so you're forced to wait for Samsung to give you the updates. Apparently you can fix this through rooting but this shouldn't even be a problem in the first place: the point of the Nexus lineup is that you get updates straight from Google without any hassle whatsoever.

How much more expensive is the iPhone 4/4s compared to the Galaxy S2/Nexus Prime? If they're pretty much the same, I'll just say give her the iPhone 4/4s. There isn't anything wrong with it unless she wants to use her own desktop themes (think Rainmeter for Windows). The only major flaws are no SD card reader and the fragile glass back so if you drop it, its going to break.

I wouldn't look at the LG Optimus 3D. The fact its so huge and bulky is enough for me to dismiss it. I have no idea why people are even talking about it. I guess it has a nice 3D gimmick but that's about the only good thing about it.
ffswowsucks
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Greece2294 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-19 09:42:00
December 19 2011 09:09 GMT
#26
On December 19 2011 17:21 Womwomwom wrote:
The Nexus series of phones for Android are a representation of the Android platform. No other place will you get the pure Android experience. Its currently more expensive than the Galaxy S2 because its extremely new but after a while the price should decrease dramatically when all of the new smartphones, running Tegra 3 and Krait processors, come out. This should not take very long.

I've always been a proponent of the Nexus series of phones, though Samsung has seemed to screwed this up by releasing certain Galaxy Nexus phones with their own firmware. This renders some Galaxy Nexus phones unable to accept updates from Google...so you're forced to wait for Samsung to give you the updates. Apparently you can fix this through rooting but this shouldn't even be a problem in the first place: the point of the Nexus lineup is that you get updates straight from Google without any hassle whatsoever.

How much more expensive is the iPhone 4/4s compared to the Galaxy S2/Nexus Prime? If they're pretty much the same, I'll just say give her the iPhone 4/4s. There isn't anything wrong with it unless she wants to use her own desktop themes (think Rainmeter for Windows). The only major flaws are no SD card reader and the fragile glass back so if you drop it, its going to break.

I wouldn't look at the LG Optimus 3D. The fact its so huge and bulky is enough for me to dismiss it. I have no idea why people are even talking about it. I guess it has a nice 3D gimmick but that's about the only good thing about it.


Nah I dont want the Optimus 3D, the Optimus 2X. Also I dont want my wife to get a new phone or change her phone. I just want a new one. Right now I have a Nokia E72 for business but im hell bored with it, used to have a Nokia Xpress Music as well to have a touchscreen phone but also got bored of it. I might give these two to make some bucks out of them and then buy a new one. the E72 should get me around 100 euros i believe.

btw anyone seen the Samsung Galaxy Note ? whats that ?

Btw just read a bit on http://androidadvices.com/samsung-galaxy-note-samsung-galaxy-nexus/ and seems the Note is better...
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Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-19 09:51:39
December 19 2011 09:47 GMT
#27
If they're talking about the Optimus 2X in those Nexus vs LG comparisons, I'm still not sure why they're talking about it. Its a pretty unremarkable phone in terms of specs, software, and design.

The Samsung Galaxy Note is just an upsized Galaxy SII. Unsurprisingly, that website you linked does the typical "compare feature/specsheets" and nothing else. You can't just compare raw specs since that doesn't tell you much. A lot of the things you can't quantify in numbers or scales.
ffswowsucks
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Greece2294 Posts
December 19 2011 10:02 GMT
#28
On December 19 2011 18:47 Womwomwom wrote:
If they're talking about the Optimus 2X in those Nexus vs LG comparisons, I'm still not sure why they're talking about it. Its a pretty unremarkable phone in terms of specs, software, and design.

The Samsung Galaxy Note is just an upsized Galaxy SII. Unsurprisingly, that website you linked does the typical "compare feature/specsheets" and nothing else. You can't just compare raw specs since that doesn't tell you much. A lot of the things you can't quantify in numbers or scales.

Ye and I also find out the thing u said about the Nexus's OS , it said to be the best, i prefer to have the best OS rather than a better camera etc, I wont even use the camera that much anyways.
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nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
December 19 2011 10:07 GMT
#29
It depends on how you define the best os. If you want a effecient os that just "works" the iphone would be the winner. Android offers a bit more flexability at certain things but if you are not sure yourself what those things are then you'll probably be happier with the iphone.
ffswowsucks
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Greece2294 Posts
December 19 2011 10:12 GMT
#30
On December 19 2011 19:07 nam nam wrote:
It depends on how you define the best os. If you want a effecient os that just "works" the iphone would be the winner. Android offers a bit more flexability at certain things but if you are not sure yourself what those things are then you'll probably be happier with the iphone.

I meant all these things mentioned here that the new Icecream represents the best android OS and to quote the comparison ive read:
Operating System

The Note runs Android GingerBread 2.3.5 with TouchWiz UI 4.0, here the Nexus seems to have scored some legitimate points over the Note. The Nexus has the latest Android 4.0 IceCream Sandwich OS, which is considered by many as the best OS at the present moment.
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nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-19 10:20:10
December 19 2011 10:19 GMT
#31
Samsung will give people the choice to upgrade to Ice cream sandwhich for galaxy note and s2 so I don't think that's the most convincing argument between two droids.
http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-confirms-ice-cream-sandwich-for-the-galaxy-note-and-galaxy-s-ii-29957/

ffswowsucks
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Greece2294 Posts
December 19 2011 10:40 GMT
#32
So now after reading some more articles, Ive chose to go with the Samsung Nexus or the Samsung Note. Still dont know which one of the two, think ill just go with what looks better and go see them live in a shop to decide. Thanx everyone for their feedbacks! as soon as I get my new phone ill make a mini-review of it and tell you how it is
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Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
December 19 2011 10:47 GMT
#33
On December 19 2011 19:19 nam nam wrote:
Samsung will give people the choice to upgrade to Ice cream sandwhich for galaxy note and s2 so I don't think that's the most convincing argument between two droids.
http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-confirms-ice-cream-sandwich-for-the-galaxy-note-and-galaxy-s-ii-29957/



Can you turn the TouchWiz garbage off? If so then there's no difference between the two. If not, then you've got your answer.
althaz
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1001 Posts
December 19 2011 10:59 GMT
#34
iOS is smoother and for some people crashes less (although it has the most unstable browser of all the smartphones). iOS is not the SMOOTHEST though - that title belongs too WP7 (which trounces all opposition for user-friendliness, UI aesthetics and smoothness of animation, unfortunately there's actually no apps for it). iOS is probably the worst designed of the modern smart-phone OSes in terms of user-friendliness and ease of getting things done, although iOS 5 makes things much better.

It's also worth noting that the latest version of android (which runs on the new Nexus) is by all accounts much smoother and more stable than previous incarnations, which means that you skip over the iPhones key (only?) advantage over Android. Android is better designed but personally I could never have used it because it feels very sluggish (which is why although I despise it, I have an iPhone). If Ice-Cream Sandwich fixes this, I can't think of any reason the Samsung Nexus wouldn't be the very best phone in the world right now .
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ffswowsucks
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Greece2294 Posts
December 19 2011 11:35 GMT
#35
How come I didnt see this earlier? http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=296323
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
December 19 2011 11:37 GMT
#36
Because it was just posted a few minutes ago.
ffswowsucks
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Greece2294 Posts
December 19 2011 11:39 GMT
#37
On December 19 2011 20:37 skyR wrote:
Because it was just posted a few minutes ago.

And I think we got a winner after reading it, also a few minutes ago Now I think its my destiny to buy it.
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nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-19 12:08:02
December 19 2011 12:05 GMT
#38
On December 19 2011 19:47 Womwomwom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2011 19:19 nam nam wrote:
Samsung will give people the choice to upgrade to Ice cream sandwhich for galaxy note and s2 so I don't think that's the most convincing argument between two droids.
http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-confirms-ice-cream-sandwich-for-the-galaxy-note-and-galaxy-s-ii-29957/



Can you turn the TouchWiz garbage off? If so then there's no difference between the two. If not, then you've got your answer.


Answer for what? I wasn't comparing those two. He was saying he want devices with the ice cream sandwhich over gingerbread and I was only pointing out that some high end phones will get that option to upgrade. So making a choice for that reason isn't good no matter what the improvements are.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
December 19 2011 12:16 GMT
#39
Answer for choosing the Nexus over the Galaxy SII. Its pretty obvious when we're talking about ICM, we're talking about the GUI because its what basically every review has applauded.

TouchWiz is god awful and updating to ICM won't fix that (unless you can remove it).
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
December 19 2011 12:37 GMT
#40
Yeah you are right about that part but I wasn't comparing any models. I was talking more in general that you have to check from device to decive rather than to look at the os number. I didn't mean to imply you'd get the same experience just because you can upgrade.
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