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WarSame
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1950 Posts
October 22 2011 21:04 GMT
#1
Hey all, just a quick question: how do I lock myself out of my email account? Apparently I have a virus and it's spamming all my contacts so I want to not spam them while I try to fix it. On a related note, does anyone know of any good free antivirus?
Can it be I stayed away too long? Did you miss these rhymes while I was gone?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 22 2011 21:14 GMT
#2
I don't believe this is possible, at least not with gmail.
WarSame
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1950 Posts
October 22 2011 21:18 GMT
#3
On October 23 2011 06:14 skyR wrote:
I don't believe this is possible, at least not with gmail.

Well, I'm using Hotmail, so it might work for that. Any idea for the av? For now I've just removed all of my contacts so they don't get spammed.
Can it be I stayed away too long? Did you miss these rhymes while I was gone?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 22 2011 21:21 GMT
#4
Microsoft Security Essentials
AVG
Avast

are the only free ones I can think of off the top of my head.
WarSame
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1950 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-22 21:26:31
October 22 2011 21:26 GMT
#5
Alright, thank you! I'll go with AVG I guess. I used it once before(forgot what it was called) and it was decent.
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renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
October 22 2011 21:42 GMT
#6
microsoft security essentials is the best thing you can get right now
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Bulldozor
Profile Joined February 2011
Denmark74 Posts
October 22 2011 21:46 GMT
#7
Just change password on a different computer?
Warzilla
Profile Joined December 2010
Czech Republic311 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-22 21:48:53
October 22 2011 21:48 GMT
#8
On October 23 2011 06:21 skyR wrote:
Microsoft Security Essentials
AVG
Avast

are the only free ones I can think of off the top of my head.


Having no antivirus is better than having one of these above.. Except Avast is somewhat decent..
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Bulldozor
Profile Joined February 2011
Denmark74 Posts
October 22 2011 21:53 GMT
#9
On October 23 2011 06:48 YosHGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 06:21 skyR wrote:
Microsoft Security Essentials
AVG
Avast

are the only free ones I can think of off the top of my head.


Having no antivirus is better than having one of these above.. Except Avast is somewhat decent..



Please don't say stuff like this, someone might believe you.

You can go ahead and fanboi whatever program you want to use but don't start spewing bullshit in public


Thanks.
WarSame
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1950 Posts
October 22 2011 21:59 GMT
#10
On October 23 2011 06:46 Bulldozor wrote:
Just change password on a different computer?

What do you mean by this? I only have one computer.
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Bulldozor
Profile Joined February 2011
Denmark74 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-22 22:04:48
October 22 2011 22:04 GMT
#11
On October 23 2011 06:59 Peterblue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 06:46 Bulldozor wrote:
Just change password on a different computer?

What do you mean by this? I only have one computer.


Well they access your email because they have your password (most likely via keylogger but not neccecarily)

If you change password on a computer that is not affected they will not have the new password and hence can't send spam from your email

Then you just need to clean your pc of whatever malware is stealing your passwords and voila.

Even if you only have 1 pc you must know someone who will let you use their pc for 2 minutes to change the password.

As for removing virus from your computer, that's a whole other topic
grs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany2339 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-22 22:22:12
October 22 2011 22:21 GMT
#12
On October 23 2011 06:48 YosHGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 06:21 skyR wrote:
Microsoft Security Essentials
AVG
Avast

are the only free ones I can think of off the top of my head.


Having no antivirus is better than having one of these above.. Except Avast is somewhat decent..

These are the times when I seriously would like a report button. Keep away from giving false advice if you do not have any clue at all in tech support.

Microsoft Security Essentials is perfectly fine when you have Windows 7, you get it free and it is quite good.
gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
October 22 2011 22:26 GMT
#13
On October 23 2011 06:48 YosHGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 06:21 skyR wrote:
Microsoft Security Essentials
AVG
Avast

are the only free ones I can think of off the top of my head.


Having no antivirus is better than having one of these above.. Except Avast is somewhat decent..


You can't seriously believe that? All three is fine and certainly a whole lot better than nothing.
Skiro
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands87 Posts
October 22 2011 22:37 GMT
#14
i had the same problem once on my hotmail account, i just changed my password and it stopped
shabinka
Profile Joined October 2008
United States469 Posts
October 22 2011 22:50 GMT
#15
On October 23 2011 07:21 grs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 06:48 YosHGo wrote:
On October 23 2011 06:21 skyR wrote:
Microsoft Security Essentials
AVG
Avast

are the only free ones I can think of off the top of my head.


Having no antivirus is better than having one of these above.. Except Avast is somewhat decent..

These are the times when I seriously would like a report button. Keep away from giving false advice if you do not have any clue at all in tech support.

Microsoft Security Essentials is perfectly fine when you have Windows 7, you get it free and it is quite good.


There... is a report button...
I also thought that Avira wasn't bad.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-22 23:37:50
October 22 2011 23:36 GMT
#16
On October 23 2011 06:48 YosHGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 06:21 skyR wrote:
Microsoft Security Essentials
AVG
Avast

are the only free ones I can think of off the top of my head.


Having no antivirus is better than having one of these above.. Except Avast is somewhat decent..

Umm nah at least Avast is good and I've had good experiences with Avira at least in the past

If anything, one should avoid the paid ones like Norton and F-Secure. Holy shit have those ruined my computing experience multiple times.
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jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
October 23 2011 08:53 GMT
#17
What's wrong with him voicing his opinion about anti-virus software?

I mean yeah, if you're the type of person who randomly clicks on bright flashing links and opens .exe files that are "supposed to be" .avi, then yeah, you probably need anti-virus. I mean really, you've won a brand new car, go ahead and click on that link. A Nigerian prince really is sending you an e-card... don't think, just open it. Microsoft really is giving you $200 for every person you forward that e-mail to. But first, you have to install this new version of IE. Wtf are you waiting for?
Xapti
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2473 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 09:14:00
October 23 2011 09:07 GMT
#18
You just need to change your password, doesn't even need to be on a different computer (for temporary relief).

However, if you just change password like you normally would (or even just do it on the same PC), the problem might return later due to the keylogger still operating, so it would be best to remove the keylogger first.

Even without removing the keylogger, you can try to obfuscate your new password by trying unicode characters in the password (some keyloggers might not follow it), copy-pasting some characters, using left and right arrows (and/or home/end) while typing the password, and using the mouse to click to different parts of the password while typing it. The same should be done with e-mail (could generally just copy-paste it), especially alternating between e-mail and password while typing them.
If you do all that, the main way it would then only be able know your new password would be via packet monitoring, which I think is very possible. I'm not sure how many packet monitors exist as opposed to keyloggers. Not to say that a keylogger still couldn't figure it out if it monitored all keys and all clicks, and the clipboard, and then inspected by a human, but I think that's unlikely.
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Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
October 23 2011 09:51 GMT
#19
On October 23 2011 17:53 jacosajh wrote:
What's wrong with him voicing his opinion about anti-virus software?

I mean yeah, if you're the type of person who randomly clicks on bright flashing links and opens .exe files that are "supposed to be" .avi, then yeah, you probably need anti-virus. I mean really, you've won a brand new car, go ahead and click on that link. A Nigerian prince really is sending you an e-card... don't think, just open it. Microsoft really is giving you $200 for every person you forward that e-mail to. But first, you have to install this new version of IE. Wtf are you waiting for?


ive had virus alerts from clicking pictures found via google images (whether there was a virus or not i have no idea.) just sayin, you can still get viruses without running any exe files or other obvious stuff.

anyways, by far the best protection ive ever had was with noscript. i still use mse for scanning received files and stuff like that, but it makes web browsing pretty stress-free
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GloryOfAiur
Profile Joined October 2011
United States127 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 10:02:49
October 23 2011 10:02 GMT
#20
Did you try deleting your contacts? AVA is a great last-minute antivirus, though I would suggest MacAFree or Kaspersky as a serious, paid AV.
WarSame
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1950 Posts
October 23 2011 19:15 GMT
#21
On October 23 2011 19:02 GloryOfAiur wrote:
Did you try deleting your contacts? AVA is a great last-minute antivirus, though I would suggest MacAFree or Kaspersky as a serious, paid AV.

Yes, I deleted my contacts. I dled both AVG and Avast and neither showed any viruses...
Can it be I stayed away too long? Did you miss these rhymes while I was gone?
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
October 23 2011 20:41 GMT
#22
On October 23 2011 07:37 Skiro wrote:
i had the same problem once on my hotmail account, i just changed my password and it stopped
This. My buddy told me he was getting weird emails so I changed my password and asked him to tell me if it continued. He didn't get anymore so that seemed to solve it.
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pyaar
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States423 Posts
October 23 2011 20:43 GMT
#23
On October 23 2011 07:50 shabinka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 07:21 grs wrote:
On October 23 2011 06:48 YosHGo wrote:
On October 23 2011 06:21 skyR wrote:
Microsoft Security Essentials
AVG
Avast

are the only free ones I can think of off the top of my head.


Having no antivirus is better than having one of these above.. Except Avast is somewhat decent..

These are the times when I seriously would like a report button. Keep away from giving false advice if you do not have any clue at all in tech support.

Microsoft Security Essentials is perfectly fine when you have Windows 7, you get it free and it is quite good.


There... is a report button...
I also thought that Avira wasn't bad.


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jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
October 23 2011 22:55 GMT
#24
On October 23 2011 18:51 Legatus Lanius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 17:53 jacosajh wrote:
What's wrong with him voicing his opinion about anti-virus software?

I mean yeah, if you're the type of person who randomly clicks on bright flashing links and opens .exe files that are "supposed to be" .avi, then yeah, you probably need anti-virus. I mean really, you've won a brand new car, go ahead and click on that link. A Nigerian prince really is sending you an e-card... don't think, just open it. Microsoft really is giving you $200 for every person you forward that e-mail to. But first, you have to install this new version of IE. Wtf are you waiting for?


ive had virus alerts from clicking pictures found via google images (whether there was a virus or not i have no idea.) just sayin, you can still get viruses without running any exe files or other obvious stuff.

anyways, by far the best protection ive ever had was with noscript. i still use mse for scanning received files and stuff like that, but it makes web browsing pretty stress-free


That is precisely what's wrong with Anti-Virus. Even crap that isn't a virus, it'll go off, making you feel like "Oh at least I'm secure."

And what kind of pictures are you looking at, lol.

I'm not saying it's impossible, but really wow.
Xapti
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2473 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-24 02:14:35
October 24 2011 02:09 GMT
#25
If you're a computer savvy person (or even less savvy, as there are different options) you can use a program called a Host Intrusion Prevention System (HIPS), which are generally quite less system-resource heavy than many anti-virus programs.

Most security people would probably recommend having an AV with these as well, but if you get a good HIPS and know what you're doing (and aren't worried about getting infected, as long as you can figure out it's there and that it should be removed) then it isn't really necessary to have an AV as well.

http://www.techsupportalert.com/best-free-hips.htm
I used WinPatrol before — it's really lightweight, but it felt like it wasn't reporting as much as I'd like. It only reports serious stuff, which might be desirable to most/many people. The registry monitor looks really nice, I might try it.
http://www.techsupportalert.com/content/probably-best-free-security-list-world.htm?page=0,6
This is actually a list I used a while ago to try WinPatrol. The other links on the page have all sorts of other security applications such as anti-virus or anti-malware.


As mentioned, NoScript extension is really good for web browsing — not only will it prevent some exploits and such, but it helps with privacy and page load time as well (although having to constantly allow critical components on websites can sorta slow down loads sometimes too, but only the infrequently visited ones)

On October 24 2011 04:15 Peterblue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 19:02 GloryOfAiur wrote:
Did you try deleting your contacts? AVA is a great last-minute antivirus, though I would suggest MacAFree or Kaspersky as a serious, paid AV.

Yes, I deleted my contacts. I dled both AVG and Avast and neither showed any viruses...

If the AVs are right (which they may not be), then it's possible that your password was just compromised by a phishing attempt or something similar, and that changing the password (not on a different computer, even) would be the end of the story. I'd personally say deleting contacts was unnecessary, since it could have reported all the contacts to someone (it's host) in one e-mail anyway (or via P2P network traffic even). Generally it will send messages to all the contacts really quick anyway, so removing the contacts would be after all the messages were sent.
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nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-24 06:58:17
October 24 2011 06:53 GMT
#26
On October 23 2011 17:53 jacosajh wrote:
What's wrong with him voicing his opinion about anti-virus software?

I mean yeah, if you're the type of person who randomly clicks on bright flashing links and opens .exe files that are "supposed to be" .avi, then yeah, you probably need anti-virus. I mean really, you've won a brand new car, go ahead and click on that link. A Nigerian prince really is sending you an e-card... don't think, just open it. Microsoft really is giving you $200 for every person you forward that e-mail to. But first, you have to install this new version of IE. Wtf are you waiting for?


It's wrong because he's wrong... Wtf? We are talking about a person that potentially have a virus here not a general "do you really need a anti-virus."

On October 24 2011 07:55 jacosajh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 18:51 Legatus Lanius wrote:
On October 23 2011 17:53 jacosajh wrote:
What's wrong with him voicing his opinion about anti-virus software?

I mean yeah, if you're the type of person who randomly clicks on bright flashing links and opens .exe files that are "supposed to be" .avi, then yeah, you probably need anti-virus. I mean really, you've won a brand new car, go ahead and click on that link. A Nigerian prince really is sending you an e-card... don't think, just open it. Microsoft really is giving you $200 for every person you forward that e-mail to. But first, you have to install this new version of IE. Wtf are you waiting for?


ive had virus alerts from clicking pictures found via google images (whether there was a virus or not i have no idea.) just sayin, you can still get viruses without running any exe files or other obvious stuff.

anyways, by far the best protection ive ever had was with noscript. i still use mse for scanning received files and stuff like that, but it makes web browsing pretty stress-free


That is precisely what's wrong with Anti-Virus. Even crap that isn't a virus, it'll go off, making you feel like "Oh at least I'm secure."

And what kind of pictures are you looking at, lol.

I'm not saying it's impossible, but really wow.


Because people that are malicious only upload pictures that screams "HERE IS A VIRUS" right? And it's usually a redirect, not the pictures themselves that is the problem.
LXR
Profile Joined June 2011
357 Posts
October 24 2011 07:30 GMT
#27
On October 23 2011 06:48 YosHGo wrote:
Having no antivirus is better than having one of these above.. Except Avast is somewhat decent..

please don't listen to this. those programs are o.k. my favorite free antivirus is Avira. it's pretty non-invasive but i've never gotten a virus when using it.
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