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-RusH
Profile Joined June 2012
United States240 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-04 23:23:49
July 04 2013 23:17 GMT
#6981
Okay there is only one in the top half and the bottom half there is only one with an address. The file name is ntoskrnl.exe

Edit: After googling I believe it could be due to my RAM. I have 2x2 GB. When I put them in I put them in the ram slots 1 and 3 which were both blue and slots 2 and 4 were black. Could the BSOD happen when my ram gets full? Usually when I leave sc2 running for awhile it uses up a lot of RAM. I see it get up to 1.8 GB alone.
Life..
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-04 23:35:56
July 04 2013 23:29 GMT
#6982
Well, that's the kernel itself, programmed by Microsoft, not a third party driver. I wouldn't worry as you say that's the first time in two years that it happened. Things just never can run 100% and it's some random bug somewhere.

What was the error code? It's mentioned in the "bug check code" column.

If memory gets full, the PC gets very slow as Windows will start to use your hard drive to move things out of memory. It won't just crash.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
-RusH
Profile Joined June 2012
United States240 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-04 23:42:41
July 04 2013 23:39 GMT
#6983
The bug check code is 0x0000003b

Edit: I also yesterday switched my desk and had to remove everything connected to my PC. I just made sure the DVI Cable was seated in properly. Other than that I've not changed anything else.

Edit2: I'll just continue on then and just hope it doesn't happen again. Although my GPU and the RAM is just over 2 years old I put the rest of this computer together about 3 weeks ago and have already played a good amount of sc2 games on it without problem.
Life..
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
July 04 2013 23:48 GMT
#6984
I wouldn't worry for now. It might never happen again. If it's a bug somewhere, it might resolve itself over time just from Windows Update installing updates.

If you want to try other NVidia drivers, a newer version (320.49) was just released yesterday. Those might not have the problems you've seen the last time you tried to update.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
-RusH
Profile Joined June 2012
United States240 Posts
July 04 2013 23:54 GMT
#6985
On July 05 2013 08:48 Ropid wrote:
I wouldn't worry for now. It might never happen again. If it's a bug somewhere, it might resolve itself over time just from Windows Update installing updates.

If you want to try other NVidia drivers, a newer version (320.49) was just released yesterday. Those might not have the problems you've seen the last time you tried to update.

Ah alright boss, that's exactly what I was going to ask you next. Thanks for your help I'll just keep it moving hoping for the best.
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KapsyL
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden704 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-05 10:21:45
July 05 2013 04:58 GMT
#6986
So yeah. Running into even more problems now D:
The intel drivers install helps until I turn off the pc. thats when 1. it doesnt turn off by itself 2. when i turn it back on after having to turn it off by cutting power the intel drivers doesnt do anything anymore and i have to remove and reinstall them then it works again.

>.< ideas? Got a couple of "Information tags" and a few Warning tags in the event viewer
Intel(R) Ethernet Connection I217-V
Network link is disconnected.

Intel(R) Ethernet Connection I217-V
PROBLEM: Unable to start the network adapter.

Reset to device, \Device\RaidPort0, was issued.

when turned on

According to my event viewer the OS itself turns off

The operating system is shutting down at system time ‎2013‎-‎07‎-‎04T21:44:11.784693800Z.

but my fans and stuff just keeps spinning and shine blue

Edit: Tried to use the network drivers from the disc thinking the new ones could be bad. No effect and it still disappears after a computer restart. Am I missing something here? >.<

Edit2: Found this in the event viewer: Driver Management has concluded the process to add Service e1dexpress for Device Instance ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_153B&SUBSYS_E0001458&REV_04\3&11583659&0&C8 with the following status: 0.
Jurg Jurg Jurg
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
July 05 2013 10:58 GMT
#6987
Here are the latest BIOS versions for Gigabyte Z87 boards: http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte/28441-gigabyte-latest-beta-bios-13.html#post275114

The ones with letters at the end are beta. You might want to ignore the beta versions, but make sure to at least use the latest stable BIOS. The one put on the board in the factory may be very old. You might want to try a beta if you still think things are off.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20344 Posts
July 05 2013 11:36 GMT
#6988
My system never finishes crash dumps on 0x0101 bluescreens (it always freezes halfway through, so i can't look at them)

Is there any way to fix this?
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-05 11:56:37
July 05 2013 11:56 GMT
#6989
increase vcore?

It also looked like that for me all the time when not quite stable with the overclock. I got the blue screen, but then the blue screen often froze and didn't finish doing what it does.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20344 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-05 12:40:55
July 05 2013 12:35 GMT
#6990
Passes IBT, prime and adia at 4.8ghz at the vcore it's not finishing crash dump with on 4.7 - you want me to throw more vcore at it?

It's not quite stable overclock, that's what im trying to fix

but i have the same error at 1.3 and at 1.36vcore there's obviously a problem here.

It throws 0x0124's when i don't have enough vcore, and then it stops and it only throws 0x0101's, but crash dumps never finish on the 0x0101's
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
July 05 2013 12:46 GMT
#6991
Are you also experimenting with overclocking memory? It could be memory errors gradually destroying all kinds of data, and then when the PC finally crashes, whatever part of memory the BSOD program code uses isn't correct anymore. If it's not the memory overclock, perhaps that uncore part of the CPU is having problems and slowly creating errors distributed all over memory.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20344 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-05 12:50:52
July 05 2013 12:50 GMT
#6992
my RAM is stock 1.35v 1600 11-11-11-28 running at 1.45v, 1066 11-11-11-28. It's passed superpi32m and a lot of prime (50, 60 hours? with >95% ram usage) at 2000 on those volts. Uncore is at 34x, with some ring voltage added. I'l try 30x and higher ring volts, but it should be at like 45x on a high oc, cant keep it way down like that
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
July 05 2013 12:57 GMT
#6993
What if you try uncore at 44 or 45? Perhaps something in the CPU doesn't like that large difference between 34 and 47.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
KapsyL
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden704 Posts
July 05 2013 14:28 GMT
#6994
Hey thanks alot. I take it the gigabyte bios are for me. thanks ill download it and test right away
Jurg Jurg Jurg
KapsyL
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden704 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-05 14:47:41
July 05 2013 14:37 GMT
#6995
On July 05 2013 19:58 Ropid wrote:
Here are the latest BIOS versions for Gigabyte Z87 boards: http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte/28441-gigabyte-latest-beta-bios-13.html#post275114

The ones with letters at the end are beta. You might want to ignore the beta versions, but make sure to at least use the latest stable BIOS. The one put on the board in the factory may be very old. You might want to try a beta if you still think things are off.


Ehh.. The only one that isnt with a letter in the end(beta) is the Z87MX-D3H F3, which isnt 64bit so i cant install it. I take it i cant just pick any of the links. Should I try a Beta one?
Edit: Went into my own bios to look around a bit and i noticed the networking part was Disabled and greyed out so i couldnt change it
Jurg Jurg Jurg
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-05 14:51:19
July 05 2013 14:48 GMT
#6996
Extract the archive and put the BIOS file onto your USB drive stick thingy and restart and go into the BIOS. Then look around for what key to press to get the BIOS flash function to activate (F8? F9? I don't know), navigate onto the USB drive and select the BIOS file you want to flash.

Ignore the flash program that comes inside the archive. It's some DOS program or something.

EDIT: The file named "Z87MXD3H.F3", that's the one you have to put on your USB drive. The USB drive can't be formatted as NTFS, I think, has to be FAT32. There should be a Windows flash program on the Gigabyte site. You can also use that. It's probably not quite safe to use, but the Gigabyte boards have a backup BIOS chip that can take over if something gets fucked up with the first BIOS chip, so nothing bad can happen.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
KapsyL
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden704 Posts
July 05 2013 14:49 GMT
#6997
Ahh thanks i will try it right away.
Jurg Jurg Jurg
KapsyL
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden704 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-05 15:27:52
July 05 2013 15:27 GMT
#6998
I read on the gigabyte site that flashing the bios is at my own risk. does this mean i can lose warranty?
if so ill probably just contact them instead and wait a bit
Jurg Jurg Jurg
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
July 05 2013 15:31 GMT
#6999
Never thought about that, but the board really shouldn't break. It's just dangerous while you are overclocked or otherwise not really stable, and they can't have control over that, so that's why they write that I assume. There's a second chip on Gigabyte boards, so you always have a backup. When you flash now, you are only flashing the first chip.

Did you at least first check what version you actually have at the moment? It could already be that F3 version.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
KapsyL
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden704 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-05 15:34:12
July 05 2013 15:33 GMT
#7000
Havent gone into bios yet. Ill do it in an hour after im back home. Need to check the version anyway for contacting support
Updating to latest Nvidia drivers now. heard that might help(doubt it)
Jurg Jurg Jurg
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