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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20333 Posts
April 09 2013 03:12 GMT
#6121
To add to that i'd test GPU temps with the side of the case off - if it makes a massive difference, you probably have bad case airflow either due to a problem or just mATX sucking
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Awrodo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden6 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 12:27:33
April 09 2013 03:24 GMT
#6122

There's nothing like that for TL. You just need to have the correct stream associated with your account:

http://www.teamliquid.net/video/newstream.php



Now i've had screwed up completely then :|
Had it working before trough twitch :>

My link in the spoiler ,but it says; Your stream does not appear to be marked as a Twitch TV gaming stream.

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.justin.tv/awrodo


And yes im really bad at these things sry :|
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17288 Posts
April 09 2013 04:28 GMT
#6123
Because justin.tv is not twitch.tv.
twitch.tv/cratonz
waffling1
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
599 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 05:10:12
April 09 2013 04:29 GMT
#6124
+ Show Spoiler +
note to self:
"My 3570K needs 1.27v for 4.4GHz, 1.325+ for 4.5"



XHCI is basically the protocol for USB 3.0. AHCI has nothing to do with USB, it has to do with ssd/hdd set-ups. You should use AHCI for your sata ports (I'm assuming you aren't using raid as that's a bit complicated lol). Don't mess with XHCI - yes, I'm sure like me you aren't using any usb 3.0 devices nor ever plan to, but there's no reason to disable it and it should just run on usb 2.0 automatically. Disabling USB 3.0 because you dont use usb 3.0 devices gets into being super tedious and such - I personally go through my bios and manually change every option from auto to whatever they need to be, and even I don't mess with XHCI and handoffs and such, it's just not worth it at all.
You should see the option for pci-e slots, if you press f1 (ie, use the basic menu, not the flashy 3d menu), then the bottom option. Go to miscellenaous options:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Set to Gen2 instead of auto. Try gen3 if that doesnt work. You shouldn't have to mess with it, really, but seeing your current predicament might as well try it.


ah, ok, i confused xhci ahci usb with PCie.

You have a fan controller? There is no harm in unplugging a fan controller. Most people don't even have a fan controller, why would you be reluctant to unplug it?


i just mean they said to unplug EVERYTHING. for me, i don't want to redo doing the CPU cooler, and unscrewing everything, if there is a software issue, rather than this unplugging issue. i'm not worried about fans, those are easy. I was just pointing out fans to emphasize that you have to unplug EVERYTHING. I'm not sure why this would help though.


Your question is getting a bit above this forum, you should really go to overclock.net and post in the official gigabyte z77x owners club (of which Im a proud member): http://www.overclock.net/t/1239993/official-gigabyte-z77x-owners-discussion-information-support-thread-and-club-ud5h-ud3h-d3h-and-all/5100_100



ok, i'll register and do the whole shebang.

edit: I cannot register. It says the capcha is wrong but there is no capcha
Belial88
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 05:36:22
April 09 2013 05:26 GMT
#6125
So how much VRAM do you guys use up when running HOTS on max settings? If you guy's don't already, would you mind telling me your VRAM usage in kombostor or hwinfo or the many other monitoring programs out there that'll tell you your GPU memory usage?

I'd be interested to know how much VRAM HOTS uses up in both 720 and 1080. Thanks.

How to build a $500 i7-3770K Ultimate Computer:http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=392709 ******** 100% Safe Razorless Delid Method! http://www.overclock.net/t/1376206/how-to-delid-your-ivy-bridge-cpu-with-out-a-razor-blade/0_100
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20333 Posts
April 09 2013 05:29 GMT
#6126
After a short 1v1 replay, ~400MB for 1920x1080, medium shaders, maxed textures. Can't change to full extreme settings without messing up variables.txt and having to restart like 5 times
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Belial88
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 05:37:03
April 09 2013 05:36 GMT
#6127
just dont restart, i dont care if you dont have every single setting on max. just want a general idea.
How to build a $500 i7-3770K Ultimate Computer:http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=392709 ******** 100% Safe Razorless Delid Method! http://www.overclock.net/t/1376206/how-to-delid-your-ivy-bridge-cpu-with-out-a-razor-blade/0_100
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20333 Posts
April 09 2013 06:06 GMT
#6128
On April 09 2013 14:36 Belial88 wrote:
just dont restart, i dont care if you dont have every single setting on max. just want a general idea.


But changing them overrides variables.txt and it takes a ton of fucking around to get perfectly tweaked settings again, that's my point =P

You should instead get individual figures if possible from all or most of the settings. It's clear from a quick look that medium shaders, maxed textures etc even on 1920x1080 will only use like 400MB vram at least with a short replay pre-loaded(dual screen 1920x1080, 1280x1024), so there's probably a lot of use in sniffing out which settings would eat the rest, measuring them etc.

Maybe disable SC2's awful post-processing-antialiasing-blur-everything option?
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Belial88
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 07:18:47
April 09 2013 07:18 GMT
#6129
what are you talking about? only variables.txt stuff i change is framerate glue in menu screen and framerate cap in game to like 60, but i generally dont do that because of benching different settings and testing stream settings and such, i like to see my true fps. changing graphics doesn't change those?

or do you mean manually changing graphics options like shaders and stuff? i dont think you have to edit variables text, it's the same as just changing a graphics setting around.

i actually like sc2's aa. when i enable it i notice a difference. its not huge but it's not nearly as draining as that one option... forgot what it's called but in the bottom right... there's some option that's way more intensive than AA in the menu, or at least to me.
How to build a $500 i7-3770K Ultimate Computer:http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=392709 ******** 100% Safe Razorless Delid Method! http://www.overclock.net/t/1376206/how-to-delid-your-ivy-bridge-cpu-with-out-a-razor-blade/0_100
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17288 Posts
April 09 2013 07:46 GMT
#6130
He's talking about SC2 overwriting the settings he has, which he doesn't want to have to tweak back to normal later.
twitch.tv/cratonz
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
April 09 2013 10:26 GMT
#6131
good utility to clone a harddrive?

In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17288 Posts
April 09 2013 10:31 GMT
#6132
Clonezilla
twitch.tv/cratonz
Awrodo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden6 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 12:26:56
April 09 2013 12:24 GMT
#6133
Remove
Awrodo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden6 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 12:26:48
April 09 2013 12:24 GMT
#6134
Removed
Awrodo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden6 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 12:26:41
April 09 2013 12:26 GMT
#6135
Removed
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20333 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 17:55:18
April 09 2013 17:13 GMT
#6136
On April 09 2013 16:18 Belial88 wrote:
what are you talking about? only variables.txt stuff i change is framerate glue in menu screen and framerate cap in game to like 60, but i generally dont do that because of benching different settings and testing stream settings and such, i like to see my true fps. changing graphics doesn't change those?

or do you mean manually changing graphics options like shaders and stuff? i dont think you have to edit variables text, it's the same as just changing a graphics setting around.

i actually like sc2's aa. when i enable it i notice a difference. its not huge but it's not nearly as draining as that one option... forgot what it's called but in the bottom right... there's some option that's way more intensive than AA in the menu, or at least to me.


I mean stuff like alternatelowtextures after 1.5, which was forced on unless you manually overrode it in variables.txt and read-only'd it, because blizzard decided everyone should have messed up textures if they used low shaders so that they would look better in some peoples opinions 75% of the time, but awful the other 25%.

There's some other stuff, like forcing models to high on low/med shaders, so you can see what a unit is when it is warping in without having to click on it and see death animations, better pylon radius etc, there's more than a few cases where you have to manual edit settings in the variables file to force something like that, but if you change graphics in game everything gets reset

i actually like sc2's aa. when i enable it i notice a difference


It makes a difference to jaggies, yes. It does not have a notable performance cost, no, but that's because its post-processing AA. It achieves that better look on jaggies by blurring the fuck out of EVERYTHING in the game viewport, textures and text in the game window, stuff like health bars too, it takes away from visual clarity so much.. Higher graphics settings are not higher quality, they are literally just half of the time, more random shit thrown in that makes the game look worse AND perform worse
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
waffling1
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
599 Posts
April 09 2013 21:00 GMT
#6137
OK, I found out why my computer wouldn't boot.

One of the GPU PCIe cables was not compatible. (WHO KNEW PCI CABLES WERE HAD COMPATIBILITY ISSUES! I would have never expected something like this when all of them are PCIe cables...)

So it does boot now, after removing the incompatible "red" cable. I'm only running on one power cable. But it has the same symptoms as having none: the FAN is blasted on max, and the GPU is not detected by GPU-Z or by the windows gadget GPU meter.

I downloaded the latest drivers and tools and installed them, but still no detection. I downloaded the first two files, (Catalyst software suite, and latest beta driver) not the 3rd (profiles)
http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonaiw_vista64.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.42;2.4.1.3.44&lang=us&rev=&ostype=Windows 7 - 64-Bit Edition

Could this still be a motherboard issue?

I'm going to try updating my BIOS from v 18 to v19beta and see if taht does anything. Today is my last day to return the mobo.
ghindo
Profile Joined March 2012
United States58 Posts
April 09 2013 22:26 GMT
#6138
What are the advantages/disadvantages to using a NIC as opposed to onboard networking? As far as I can tell, a NIC can take some negligible load off of the CPU and maybe shave a few milliseconds off the ping, but that doesn't seem super significant . . .
Onioncookie
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany624 Posts
April 09 2013 22:57 GMT
#6139
Why is everyone looking down on auto overclocking CPU's ? I tried overclocking my 2500k manually and apperently the auto vcore function is way better then iam regarding this ,cant even get it to boot with the same vcore as my mobo (PA67A-UD4-B3) ...
Running with 4.5@ 1,272 vcore all temps never go beyond 60C° ,seems good for me ...

Maybe iam just retarded ... Also iam using my overclock with Turboboost right now ... is that okay? since everyone is apperently running the overclock with the standard clock
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20333 Posts
April 09 2013 23:03 GMT
#6140
Auto voltage does not know exactly how much you need (undersupply = instability, oversupply = wasteful or dangerous) while you can figure it out quite exactly.

If your CPU is stable at 1.272 load 4.5ghz 4-core under p95 or a certain stress test, but you can't even boot with that on manual voltage, you have a problem or are doing something wrong.

You probably have to raise voltage above what it says in bios and/or use LLC to counteract vdroop, as 1.272v in software under load is by default nowhere near 1.272v in bios.

You are using offset voltage to overclock? or something entirely different?
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
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