EPTyour post seems to suggest that the need to backup your data just applies to ssd drives and that it's some new insight, that storage devices stop working from time to time.
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hst
Germany29 Posts
your post seems to suggest that the need to backup your data just applies to ssd drives and that it's some new insight, that storage devices stop working from time to time. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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hellsan631
United States695 Posts
On March 20 2011 05:10 mahnini wrote: yeah and if you really, REALLY needed the data you could probably swap the platters into new drive and recover the data. i don't think there's a way to do this with SSDs. 90% of the dead/bricked drives are due to the controller dieing, and not the memory. If one had the tools and knowledge, they could just as easily replace the controller and reset it to recover everything. On a side note, i've have 2 SSD's from ocz, the original Vertex, die on me. 1 lasted for 6 months, the other lasted for about a month (was an RMA of the original). Sounds like OCZ is having some major quality issues with their ssd's. | ||
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snow2.0
Germany2073 Posts
BUT OCZ will die. At least in my experience. For the stuff i know, for example 3 of 4 eSATA sticks are dead, the 4th being the one my friend only just received. buy quality, be happy. IBM, Kingston, Corsair. Anything else that uses Intel designs and doesnt cost half of the original probably too. | ||
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malady
United States600 Posts
guess i need to buy an external soon least i got 3.0 usb =) | ||
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EliteReplay
Dominican Republic913 Posts
Can ppl with no troubles, talk about how much they have with their SSD vertex??? because as i see when one of this SSD die the owner just have a couple of months. i think Intel have the best SSD | ||
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MrTortoise
1388 Posts
mainly dodgy ram. I dont think this reflects on all SSd ... howver the problem is that it will die with no symptons .. that is goign to be common to any non mechanical component. Cant wait to be able to afford some ssd drives though. With computers you have always got hat you paid for you find the gfx card you want 30 quid cheaper .. you can bet it got nerfed along the way. Buy a cheap hard disk ... you can bet something will suck (like my samsung 1tb that thought it was 50 megs .... ) | ||
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a176
Canada6688 Posts
On March 20 2011 06:10 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: I would not recommend ever buying OCZ. They just pulled some really fishy shit even besides this crashing. Apparently the Vertex 2 drives, the ones that are listed as the "best" were switched from a 34nm architecture to a 25nm architecture. OCZ did NOT create a different model number for the different unit and package/advertise them as the 34nm. The reason that is bad is because the 25nm models have a halved life expectancy as well as a noticeable decrease in speed and storage because apparently you lose like another 8gb's of space with the new architecture. Oh and the only way to tell the two drives apart is to open it up, which voids the warranty. Long story short, buy Mushkin or Gskill SSD's. They have bad ass speeds and still have the 34nm architecture and don't act fishy as hell like OCZ did. http://www.overclock.net/ssd/942073-ocz-vertex-2-34nm-nand-versus.html Oh, and it's also rumored that they were deleting posts off their site about the unannounced change to 25nm. i was reading that too. 25nm is also much cheaper for OCZ. Considering OCZ's latest profit statements, SSDs are making them so much money they don't even need the RAM market anymore ... they even bought the makers of the Indilinx controller. While 500mb/s Vertex 3 sounds so sweet, its things like this that always keep me on the edge of not recommending SSDs. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On March 20 2011 07:04 hellsan631 wrote: 90% of the dead/bricked drives are due to the controller dieing, and not the memory. If one had the tools and knowledge, they could just as easily replace the controller and reset it to recover everything I think the bitmap of where your data is stored is on the controller. The new controller would not know which blocks of flash correspond to what. OCZ Vertex 2 is using the SandForce SF-1200 that many other product lines are using: Corsair Force, G.Skill Phoenix Pro, OCZ Agility 2, and many others. These all have pretty good performance. But the Vertex 2 uses custom firmware that the other SandForce drives aren't using, which improves random write performance. Maybe their firmware testing and QC is not so great? Anyway, automatic backups is the way to go. (also, Intel SSDs, for reliability) edit: if you look at the numbers for the flash endurance...no desktop user is ever going to run out of writes on these things, even the 25nm flash. Even if you run out of writes, the drive can still be read, anyway. The ECC and spare flash are additional measures for robustness. It's only really enterprise-type server workloads that are of concern for consumer SSDs--and that's why expensive SLC enterprise-class SSDs exist for those applications. As mentioned above, it's the controller that usually dies. Flash durability is not a real concern when considering 34nm vs. 25nm. | ||
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orcslayermac
United States138 Posts
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EliteReplay
Dominican Republic913 Posts
On March 21 2011 01:54 orcslayermac wrote: What have we learned in this thread? Don't buy stuff from ocz. I have a friend that works for them and he gives me the same advice. And he WORKS FOR THEM. I've had my 40Gb intel ssd and it works Luke a charm. Ocz may be cheaper but we all know you get what you pay for. lol u hate OCZ User was warned for this post | ||
Kiante
Australia7069 Posts
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Marcus420
Canada1923 Posts
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Korbos
Russian Federation56 Posts
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LeSioN
United States325 Posts
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Canada3485 Posts
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Adeeler
United Kingdom764 Posts
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iMarshall
Norway190 Posts
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LonelyMargarita
1845 Posts
I read that the OCZ drives get better performance than other Sandforce drives because of a deal the companies have, which means Sandforce artificially slows down other companies' Sandforce drives through the firmware so that OCZ's will perform better. The Vertex 3 numbers are pretty amazing, and I'm tempted to try one. Luckily if my SSD ever dies, I only lose my browser's history and bookmarks, text files (I use for notes), and SC replays since my last backup. Backing up these three folders only takes about 1 minute, so it's easy to do weekly. The scariest thing I noticed in that study was the 2TB Caviar Black drives, which I was considering building a new raid array with. An almost 10% failure rate is insane! I may go with 4-5 of the 1TB Spinpoints or Blacks instead. It looks like either 2TB drives aren't quite ready yet, or we're reaching the point where failure is going to be inevitable because of the size. A raid 6 array would make me feel a lot safer with my photographs. | ||
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peekn
United States1152 Posts
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