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Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
November 23 2011 02:02 GMT
#81
Not really, the major thing people don't like about Intel drives are the rather low benchmark results compared to modern Sandforce drives. The most "common" recent problem with the Intel 320 was that if your computer suffered from a power surge, it would fry the data on your drive. Or something like that. Its fixed with firmware update however.
Patate
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada441 Posts
November 23 2011 08:11 GMT
#82
Thank you sir
Dead game.
gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-23 08:26:37
November 23 2011 08:23 GMT
#83
On November 22 2011 15:38 shubcraft wrote:
Slightly OT but most needed advice:

Always, and i mean ALWAYS, backup your data!! Regardless if its a SATA, SSD, SAS, internal or external drive. Every disk can die a sudden, unannounced death.

I work for a storage company and our customers deal with 2 problems:

1) physical data loss (i.e.: dead disks, power outage, dead raid array or burned datacenter)
2) logical data loss (i.e.: corrupted databases or a stupid admin/user who hit the wrong button)

Both of these points apply for private use as well so your minimal configuration should be a SSD for your daily doings and an external SATA disk to backup your stuff. If you have a gazillion of FABulous material on your PC so it wont fit the external drive, please at least backup your real important data such as personal documents, emails and pictures of your firstborn which you have not copied to someplace else yet. I get calls every week from friends who have friends who have a mate who told them that i can fix harddrives, simple fact is in 9 out of 10 cases you just cannot and without a valid backup you are doomed.

You have been warned! ;-)

Back top topic: I have an OCZ Vertex 2 in my gaming rig, an Intel in my desktop at work and a cruiser in my work laptop, all 3 have been totaly fine for over 1 - 2 years. I barely hybernate tho as a full reboot is a matter of seconds.


Backup is good, just don't do what I did and drop the backup drive on the ground right after you have made a clean install of windows. -_- I lost all of my media files as well as most of my saved work from university... Thankfully I'm such a messy organizer and could recover some of the more important things from usb drives and old computers.

Mr.F.
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States62 Posts
November 24 2011 03:06 GMT
#84
my Force 3 can't be read by the BIOS every so often. i jiggle the cord and it works again. anyone else have this problem ever? maybe the drive is dying, and i keep getting lucky. it happened to the first one i bought, and i RMA'ed but was too lazy to do it again on the second.
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
November 24 2011 08:03 GMT
#85
Have you tried changing the sata cable?
Banelings are too cute to blow up
darkcloud8282
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada776 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-26 07:29:10
November 26 2011 07:28 GMT
#86
I decided to take the Intel SSDs with their recent huge mail in rebates being offered on the 80, 120 and 160 GB models of the 320 series. Heard too many bad things about OCZ to consider them..
DeepBlu2
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States975 Posts
November 26 2011 07:34 GMT
#87
Heard a lot about them having like a 1/3 fail rate within a year. I'm deciding whether or not to buy an intel ssd for 80 dollars after rebate on newegg right now.
u gotta sk8
Sxcerino
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada58 Posts
November 26 2011 07:55 GMT
#88
intel fails slightly less than half as much as ocz drives.

the 320 drives aren't that fast, it's comparable to solid, maybe agility of the ocz series

and usually, the higher the capacity, the faster the drive.

the newegg black friday deals are pretty good, if it's your first drive, go for it


Ashby
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia204 Posts
November 26 2011 07:59 GMT
#89
I had the OCZ vertex 2 120GB SSD and after a month my computer randomly froze, so I restarted and the drive could not be detected.

I then was asked to get it replaced but I said I want a refund as there is no way I wanted to risk having to send it back to OCZ again. I also bought a corsair SSD drive a few months after I got my OCZ refunded, the Corsair was faulty aswell :@. SO got the COrsair SSD refunded also!

SSD's in my opinion are unreliable, although, I have heard that the Crucial and Intel drives use a different type of SSD and are more reliable but have much lower speed. Either way, I won't be touching SSD's again for at least a couple of years unless I see evidence of increased reliablility across the board.
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-26 08:29:20
November 26 2011 08:09 GMT
#90
Crucial uses a Marvell controller and Intel uses it as well along with their own branded controller, both of which are much more reliable than the Sandforce controller used by OCZ and Corsair. Not to mention both Crucial and Intel use their own NAND. So you refunded the Vertex 2 for most likely an identical Vertex 2 but with Corsair branding... and you wonder why it was faulty as well -_- And a Crucial M4 is just as fast if not faster than a Vertex 3 - but all the modern SSDs are already way faster than an HDD so it's not like it matters how fast it is unless you benchmark all day.
Sxcerino
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada58 Posts
November 26 2011 08:26 GMT
#91
crucial m4's speed isnt muchhhhh lower, it's good enough that you won't notice the difference

basically if you're looking for more reliable with good speed ssds, but comes with a price premium go with intel 510, crucial m4

if you're looking for cheap, fast but more unreliable drives, you can roll the dice and go with a sandforce based drive (vertex, corsair, kingston, patriot). heard the later two has better QA so might be slightly more reliable. who knows
freetgy
Profile Joined November 2010
1720 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-26 09:05:31
November 26 2011 09:05 GMT
#92
well ocz vertex are known to be unreliable.
kirdie
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany221 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-26 10:02:40
November 26 2011 10:01 GMT
#93
I just put my important non-private data (basically work and other projects, like my home page or source code or stuff for the university like presentations) in a version control system.

Google Code for example gives you a free svn account. SVN is quite old however so I would look around and get one with git or mercurial because it's faster and better.

This achieves multiple things:

- it is really safe because unlike a usual backup it does not share a physical location
- you have the data backed up by a single "svn commit"
- you have the data on your new pcs with just "sv checkout"
- you have the data synchronized with your other pcs with just "svn update"
- someone needs the file from you and you're not at home? just browse to your google code site and give them the link.
- same if you are in another place and you need some of your files
- you don't have to spend much time to search for your backups and find the right one
- you can always restore to a very near point if you commit often enough
- even if you overwrite a file you can just restore the older version with one command

Problem is however that this puts up your data for everyone to see but for some files that is not an issue. Also it's not that good for binary files.
TapeDeckChris
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada38 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-27 20:27:37
November 27 2011 20:27 GMT
#94
On November 26 2011 17:26 Sxcerino wrote:
crucial m4's speed isnt muchhhhh lower, it's good enough that you won't notice the difference

basically if you're looking for more reliable with good speed ssds, but comes with a price premium go with intel 510, crucial m4

if you're looking for cheap, fast but more unreliable drives, you can roll the dice and go with a sandforce based drive (vertex, corsair, kingston, patriot). heard the later two has better QA so might be slightly more reliable. who knows



i agree 100%. ive seen 2 vertex drives die within a few weeks, my friend replaced with an intel 510 and it runs like a dream for months now. if you cant afford to spend that little extra for quality, i would recommend not getting an ssd until you can. if only to save you the head-aches that can ensue.
Abbazabba, you my only friend.
Xapti
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2473 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-27 21:17:41
November 27 2011 21:17 GMT
#95
My OCZ Agility died after several months of non-use (plugged in) then 2-3 months of use (optimized boot drive).

Wasn't a big deal that everything wasn't backed up, but it was a bit of an annoyance.
"Then he told me to tell you that he wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire" — "Well, you tell him that I said that I wouldn't piss on him if he was on Jeopardy!"
Skipper240
Profile Joined August 2010
140 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-27 21:24:34
November 27 2011 21:24 GMT
#96
I was recently shopping for a SSD myself and a friend that works in the industry told me something that I thought I'd pass on.

Most of you guys know that Crucial is the retail branch of Micron which is why the M4 / C400 are essentially the same drive except for the branding. However, it turns out that every drive Crucial gets actually goes through Micron first - and any drives that are below spec are automatically defaulted to Crucial.

So if you end up in a situation where you have to choose between the two with little to no price difference, the C400 is always the safer choice.

Edit - I feel like a shining star just passed over my head like on those "The More You Know" commercials.
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
November 28 2011 06:13 GMT
#97
On November 26 2011 19:01 kirdie wrote:
I just put my important non-private data (basically work and other projects, like my home page or source code or stuff for the university like presentations) in a version control system.

Google Code for example gives you a free svn account. SVN is quite old however so I would look around and get one with git or mercurial because it's faster and better.

This achieves multiple things:

- it is really safe because unlike a usual backup it does not share a physical location
- you have the data backed up by a single "svn commit"
- you have the data on your new pcs with just "sv checkout"
- you have the data synchronized with your other pcs with just "svn update"
- someone needs the file from you and you're not at home? just browse to your google code site and give them the link.
- same if you are in another place and you need some of your files
- you don't have to spend much time to search for your backups and find the right one
- you can always restore to a very near point if you commit often enough
- even if you overwrite a file you can just restore the older version with one command

Problem is however that this puts up your data for everyone to see but for some files that is not an issue. Also it's not that good for binary files.


Try bitbucket for private hosting or even dropbox (You can setup dropbox as a GIT repository). But i think a SCM is a bit beyond the expertise of non coders.
Rillanon.au
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
November 28 2011 06:17 GMT
#98
On November 28 2011 05:27 TapeDeckChris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 17:26 Sxcerino wrote:
crucial m4's speed isnt muchhhhh lower, it's good enough that you won't notice the difference

basically if you're looking for more reliable with good speed ssds, but comes with a price premium go with intel 510, crucial m4

if you're looking for cheap, fast but more unreliable drives, you can roll the dice and go with a sandforce based drive (vertex, corsair, kingston, patriot). heard the later two has better QA so might be slightly more reliable. who knows



i agree 100%. ive seen 2 vertex drives die within a few weeks, my friend replaced with an intel 510 and it runs like a dream for months now. if you cant afford to spend that little extra for quality, i would recommend not getting an ssd until you can. if only to save you the head-aches that can ensue.


Even the intel 320s are good enough. There is honestly very little difference between the older 320s and the new 510s for real world usage.

I just got myself a 120GB 320s and I'm more than happy and paid $50 less compare to Crucial and $100 less compare to 510s.

So what if it's not SATA3 :/
Rillanon.au
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
November 28 2011 06:23 GMT
#99
In most of the world, Crucial / Samsung / whatever pricing is about similar to Intel 320, sometimes less per GB.

btw 320 is newer than 510 actually. Or rather, the launch date is later, the flash is newer generation, the firmware version is presumably newer, but the controller is older.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
November 28 2011 06:34 GMT
#100
Vertex 2 has worked well for over a year, but I've never put my machine to hibernate, ever. Hoping that's the issue, I backup my data to an external every now and then anyways...
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