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lukasdesign
Profile Joined April 2011
Switzerland93 Posts
October 25 2011 11:24 GMT
#221
REading through this post I believe to understand that all I have to do is:

Install my OSX Death Adder drivers, run your mousefixer package, restart and then I can play around with any setting in my death adder driver but I am not allowed to touch the mouse settings in my OsX preference panel. Right? If I would ever change a setting i would have to rerun your script i suppose?

What about the Acceleration feature within the Death Adder driver? i make sure that it si turned off before running your app? And last but not least: do you recommend to uncheck the mouse sensitivity box within SC2?


All the best,

Lukas
Bumblebees
Profile Joined August 2010
United States328 Posts
October 26 2011 01:10 GMT
#222
On October 25 2011 20:24 lukasdesign wrote:
REading through this post I believe to understand that all I have to do is:

Install my OSX Death Adder drivers, run your mousefixer package, restart and then I can play around with any setting in my death adder driver but I am not allowed to touch the mouse settings in my OsX preference panel. Right? If I would ever change a setting i would have to rerun your script i suppose?

What about the Acceleration feature within the Death Adder driver? i make sure that it si turned off before running your app? And last but not least: do you recommend to uncheck the mouse sensitivity box within SC2?


All the best,

Lukas


You are correct. You can mess with the accel settings in the razor panel all you want, mouse fixer will do its own thing anyway. They will have no affect.
Bumblebees
Profile Joined August 2010
United States328 Posts
October 26 2011 01:11 GMT
#223
On October 25 2011 02:31 jasam22 wrote:
Am sure.I have been Windows user for 15 years.
This is not the same behavior,in fact its not even close.

Its like its going in "U" curve when i want to move diagonal.


I'm sorry, but your videos show it working correctly. You are just overshooting the target, which is common behavior for people not used to linear acceleration.

I sat here and slow-motioned the video and calculated the mouse ballistics best I could and it looks exactly correct.

komokun
Profile Joined July 2011
France343 Posts
October 26 2011 15:04 GMT
#224
On October 11 2011 13:02 GaussWaffle wrote:
Hey bumbles, just wanted to let you know that after multiple installations my computer refuses to input the plist file into the launchagents folder. If there's anyways to isolate this particular folder and input it myself, that would be much appreciated

I'm under Snow Leopard and using a SS Xai.

Edit: after troubleshooting using you and pathan's dialogue I was able to use the isolated plist from the the users/library file and copy that into the straight library file. I also added mousefixer as a login launch item and it seems to be working ok, I'm still perturbed by the lack of control in in very slow movements, but expecting perfection from a mac OS isn't something I think is gonna happen, so thanks for all the help up to this point

dbl edit: to be clear, the problem is the mouse is unpredictably jittery when movements are slowed to do normal things like click the "x" on a window, it is VERY frustrating because it makes mundane things difficult


kind of late but it might be of help.

Jittery behavior might be due to the pooling rate of your mouse if it exceeds 125hz (gaming mouse can usually function at 500 or 1000hz but it makes the movement all the more jittery if you have that issue). I think it is a problem with Mac and their USB ports. It has supposedly been fixed with Lion but I haven't really checked since I managed to find a comfy set up for my own mouse and have been too afraid to experiment with anything since then :D

Put it back to 125hz using your driver. You might need to clean and re-instal the driver though.

I might try the new version of bumblebee's though as I see he's kept developping the lovely fix.. Much <3 to Bbbee btw ^^
sirdharma
Profile Joined January 2011
France7 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-28 11:01:51
October 28 2011 08:28 GMT
#225
Hello Bumblebees,

Thank you so much for your application, which worked for me (Mac OS X 10.7.2, Logitech MX518). I can't wait for 3.0 !

Thanks again, and keep up the good work !
Cheers

PS: After having tried many different solutions to tackle that problem, yours is by far the best. You should sell definitely sell/distribute for free your app through the App Store, or at least have a website dedicated to it ! I would buy it for sure.
On the road
sirdharma
Profile Joined January 2011
France7 Posts
October 28 2011 11:04 GMT
#226
On September 29 2011 01:08 Bumblebees wrote:
In 1.4 you can now check the box "Mouse sensitivity" and sc2 will work MUCH better with any mouse program, including mousefixer!

Thanks to blizzard! Now if they could do the mouse sensitivity portion correctly... It's really not that hard :|

Did you mean UNchecking the box "Enable Mouse Sensitivity" (StarCraft 1.4.1) ?

Thanks
On the road
Bumblebees
Profile Joined August 2010
United States328 Posts
October 29 2011 13:51 GMT
#227
On October 28 2011 20:04 sirdharma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 01:08 Bumblebees wrote:
In 1.4 you can now check the box "Mouse sensitivity" and sc2 will work MUCH better with any mouse program, including mousefixer!

Thanks to blizzard! Now if they could do the mouse sensitivity portion correctly... It's really not that hard :|

Did you mean UNchecking the box "Enable Mouse Sensitivity" (StarCraft 1.4.1) ?

Thanks


That is correct.
Bumblebees
Profile Joined August 2010
United States328 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-29 13:53:22
October 29 2011 13:52 GMT
#228
On October 28 2011 17:28 sirdharma wrote:
Hello Bumblebees,

Thank you so much for your application, which worked for me (Mac OS X 10.7.2, Logitech MX518). I can't wait for 3.0 !

Thanks again, and keep up the good work !
Cheers

PS: After having tried many different solutions to tackle that problem, yours is by far the best. You should sell definitely sell/distribute for free your app through the App Store, or at least have a website dedicated to it ! I would buy it for sure.


Thank you, but this app would not be allowed on the app store due to some terms. I also don't care too much about it. I made it for myself and just happened to decide to share it with TL.

I'm even surprised at myself that I'm helping people with it
sirdharma
Profile Joined January 2011
France7 Posts
November 04 2011 10:24 GMT
#229
On October 29 2011 22:52 Bumblebees wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2011 17:28 sirdharma wrote:
Hello Bumblebees,

Thank you so much for your application, which worked for me (Mac OS X 10.7.2, Logitech MX518). I can't wait for 3.0 !

Thanks again, and keep up the good work !
Cheers

PS: After having tried many different solutions to tackle that problem, yours is by far the best. You should sell definitely sell/distribute for free your app through the App Store, or at least have a website dedicated to it ! I would buy it for sure.


Thank you, but this app would not be allowed on the app store due to some terms. I also don't care too much about it. I made it for myself and just happened to decide to share it with TL.

I'm even surprised at myself that I'm helping people with it


Hello Bumblebees,

I see what you mean. I told you that because I think your app should get the attention it deserves. I know I had been looking for something similar for quite some time, and it being hosted on a forum on TL.net does not make it the easiest to find

Being a developer myself, I am wondering how your app works, and how does it differ from USBOverdrive / Decelerate. I understand it is very different from USBOverdrive being just a user app and not a driver. And I also know it does not have the problem of Decelerate settings (.GlobalPreferences com.apple.mouse.scaling) being reset by other application you would run. Is that something you would be willing to discuss ?

Cheers!
On the road
lukasdesign
Profile Joined April 2011
Switzerland93 Posts
November 30 2011 09:03 GMT
#230
Dear Bumblebees,

I use your great mousefix, however I am still suffering of mouse inaccuracy.
I use the death adder set on 1800dpi and i still try to find an ideal sensitivity setting in the driver. i turned off any sensitivity settings in Starcarft and i made sure that acceleration is off in the Driver.

On my 24" Apple screen i score very rarely more than 4000 points in the sc2 gear mouse game. I really have a hard time!

On the otherside i do the same thing at work [ :-) ] were i have a 30" screen and a logitech mx518 (1800dpi), no acceleration. I score 8000+ on a regular basis. At work i do a lot of 3d and 2d Application so my mouse sensitivity is a bit lower than i would like for Sc2, but this can't be the only difference. As i tried to use a sensitivity of ~4 at home too without much improvement.

What could i do wrong in my setup at home?







Suc
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1569 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-06 03:59:02
December 02 2011 14:10 GMT
#231
Is it just me or is the download link broken? It just stays at "Processing download request..." T_T

I'd really love to make use of this program.

edit: dw, all fixed :D
Spyx
Profile Joined December 2011
1 Post
December 12 2011 19:52 GMT
#232
Hello, sorry for my english. I have magic mouse, that fix working good, but my mouse is too fast. How can I slow down?

Best regards
korona_
Profile Joined September 2011
Sweden3 Posts
December 20 2011 13:27 GMT
#233
Sad to report that this fix isn't working for me.

I'm using a Microsoft Intellimouse Optical on OS X 10.6.8 and I'm getting very noticeable deceleration at slow speeds even after installing the tool. Any ideas?
Bodacious[VA]
Profile Joined December 2011
1 Post
December 22 2011 15:40 GMT
#234
Love my Razr DeathAddar on mac os.
I wish I could have gotten the "special edition" mac one.

I wish the driver and thorny settings were more Starcraft friendly.
Maybe they could explain the features and benefits of each tweak you make with the different sensitivities from an SC POV.

Macros work great, but I use the general preference pane mouse settings for everything else.
In the pipe, five by five.
Jagd
Profile Joined April 2011
United States71 Posts
December 24 2011 14:57 GMT
#235
I'm surprised that in 12 pages you only vaguely describe what you're doing. Something to do with GLUT and Quartz, what specifically?

What do you mean that the acceleration is exactly like in Windows? Are you replicating the steps here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/hardware/gg463319 ? Or what are you doing, what are you measuring?
korona_
Profile Joined September 2011
Sweden3 Posts
January 07 2012 13:41 GMT
#236
For those still having issues with mouse acceleration in OSX and aren't helped by this fix, I recommend trying out Steermouse. Works wonders for me!
TheWhirlwind
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2 Posts
January 07 2012 18:42 GMT
#237
Hey Bumblebees, I know activity on this thread has died down, but I am hoping you still check it. I am using a Razer Orochi on Snow Leopard. It seems to hit the ideal sensitivity with my DPI maxed at 4000. From what I read on some of your previous posts (I read the whole thread as requested) 4000 should be far to high. My understanding of mice especially in OSX is very little and I just wanted to make sure that your software is working correctly for me.

Also, thank you very much for this software, I searched a long time and found nothing else like this. I plan on donating to your efforts and look forward to an answer as well as Mouse Fixer 3!
Matu
Profile Joined January 2012
1 Post
January 08 2012 11:07 GMT
#238
This is the closest thing to a fix for mouse movement on mac that I've tried so far, great job! While SteerMouse, USB Overdrive and Mouse Acceleration Preference Pane all allow to mess with the speed and acceleration, the cursor still seems 'floaty' and skip a lot, which sucks. No such problems with this one though :D !

The only issue is that even though it makes the cursor move as expected, it's too slow for me and there is no way to change the cursor speed as far as I can tell. System Preferences don't help as they are set to max, at MouseFixer prevents any other app to mess with the the speed (including Logitech Center).

Anybody know a way around this? No acceleration is absolutely awesome, but it's still unusable if I can't get the speed right.

P.S: Using a Logitech M180 if it makes any difference.
MrBazinga
Profile Joined January 2012
32 Posts
January 08 2012 11:41 GMT
#239
On January 08 2012 20:07 Matu wrote:[...]
Anybody know a way around this? No acceleration is absolutely awesome, but it's still unusable if I can't get the speed right.

P.S: Using a Logitech M180 if it makes any difference.


Currently, the only way to change the speed when this fix is active (and it seems this fix really is the only fix available that's truly working. I've tried...) is to have a mouse with adjustable DPI like most Razer or Logitech mice (G9, Deathadder etc).

I'm on Lion with this fix and a DeathAdder @900 DPI. Works like a charm. Great, great work by bumblebee!!
3nigmatiq
Profile Joined January 2012
5 Posts
January 10 2012 21:56 GMT
#240
I want to thank you Bumblebees. Those are eight brilliant kilobytes.

I tested your program on a 24" iMac running Mac OS X Snow Leopard with a Razer DeathAdder 3500. It works flawlessly. I use a setting of 3500dpi with 5/10 sensitivity and no acceleration.

Note to similar users:
The button on the bottom of my mouse can switch between the 5 configuration profiles without triggering a regression to OS X's native accelerated mouse ballistics as long as MouseFixer2 is running. If anyone else wonders why the button on the button of their DeathAdder 3500 reverts to acceleration on when switching profiles, the reason is that they have probably closed the MouseFixer2 app. If that is the case, re-run the app after any profile change to update your mouse ballistics (and remove acceleration once again) and you can then close the terminal window that executed MouseFixer2. Or (this is that the developper suggests) just leave it running in the background if you can afford sacrificing a tiny bit of resources for the added convenience, assuming you either need to prevent programs from messing with your mouse configuration, or assuming you switch profiles with the button underneath the 3500 or mess with the Razer driver applet on a regular basis. Depending on the drivers involved, this might be valid for other mice using a profile change button, not only Razers.
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