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gulati
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2241 Posts
January 10 2011 08:06 GMT
#41
On January 10 2011 12:10 visselli wrote:
is the palm rest only available with the 7g?


The 6Gv2 doesn't come with a palm rest; only the 7G. So, yes.
C r u m b l i n g
Ultramus
Profile Joined June 2010
United States319 Posts
January 10 2011 08:52 GMT
#42
I had some giftcards to blow at Fry's and picked up a 7g, I dig it wuite a bit, little miffed it is ps2 only though so can't use it at lans, good thing I've got another KB for that but still I'd have liked to use this one, I really like the black switches.
Baking is like science for hungry people
iScH
Profile Joined November 2010
United States48 Posts
January 10 2011 09:03 GMT
#43
I just bought a Steelseries 6Gv2 and I absolutely love it along with the black switches. If you have the extra money I would say pick up the 7G for the wrist rest and USB port and such, but I didn't buy it because I don't really want them to be honest. I really do love my 6Gv2 though, I would recommend it to anyone.
G3T PH4Z3D
Aberu
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States968 Posts
January 10 2011 10:00 GMT
#44
I like the wrist rest of the 7g a lot. I actually feel like because of that wrist rest I can take it anywhere and my setup feels the same as it does at home. Incontrol is right, when I went to MLG Dallas I was forced to use the Siig, but I don't think all LANs will force USB. And even then, there is a USB adapter, and due to that, it doesn't face the hotplugging issues. MLG still made USB adapters against the rule for some unknown reason though.

The headset and usb plugs are huge perks to me, but may not be for others.
srsly
EnrageD
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada230 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-21 19:56:19
January 21 2011 19:55 GMT
#45
I just grabbed my 6g v2 yesterday, I've been using the same 12 dollar dynex keyboard for like 3 years now, i used to rest my pinky on the edge of it while typing, and when i try to do that on this keyboard my hands are 1 button off all the time, i basically need to stare at my keyboard now when typing... I love small keyboards, i hope it doesnt take me long to get settled on this thing, i basically cant play sc2. and last night while playing league of legends, i hit R instead of E about 5 times. And if your not aware, the difference between E and R is about a 120 second cooldown and a massive ultimate ability that changes team fights.

all and all, great feel. I've never been a fan of wrist rests (yay carpal tunnel!). And if u need USB ports that bad, go spend 1 dollar on a hub.
metzGRR
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden86 Posts
January 21 2011 20:01 GMT
#46
Does the wristwrest from 7G fit onto the 6GV2?
Eurekastreet
Profile Joined November 2010
1308 Posts
February 01 2011 13:03 GMT
#47
Just got 6gv2 this morning; i'm coming from a mushy membrane dell keyboard; construction and looks are exactly as described in the numerous online reviews- it looks nice and sober and feels solid.

I bought this model because all the other mech cherry keyboards out there were twice the price (shipping to Belgium was the major issue for filcos, steelseries fortunately were available easily through germany) or looked like christmas trees. I wanted something solid and simple and not too expensive for a first try so i went for this one, thinking if i like mechs, I'll invest again the future.

Haven't tested it for sc2 yet. After 5-6 years on a 10$ membrane keyboard i can tell it will require some adaptation time and a slight change of typing technique. Typing feels very nice and smooth, wish it was a tiny bit louder or that there was a slight click/bump sound when the activation point has been passed because -and that is my main issue at this point but I guess I'll get used to it : I was used to bottoming out with membrane and bottoming out with the black cherries kind of slows down typing speed (at least for me right now) - fortunately bottoming out is not needed but getting the feeling on how much pressure has to be applied before fast jumping to the next key will probably take a few days/weeks before it is done properly.

I guess the problem would be more or less the same with brown cherry, maybe slightlyless important, but i guess it all comes down to adaptation anyway.....

Well, i only had it for a couple of hours, more feedback later on....

PS : right shift key could be a bit bigger, but again, i guess its all about getting used to it.
"2 cannons, it's not one cannons" - White-Ra
Phayze
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2029 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-01 17:05:03
February 01 2011 17:02 GMT
#48
Eurekastreet if you wanted clicky tactile feel you should have gotten blues, which are arguably best for starcraft. Because the mx blacks are very linear most of the time you have to bottom out the key to get it to activate, added on with the increased activation force it makes the steel series mech's not the best choice when it comes to rts. Sure lots of pro's use them (notably idra) but you might want to consider the black widow or das with blues. I know one person who bought the 6gv2 and returned it because for him it simply was inadequate for cevo P css (primarily) and felt awkward in sc2.

the das is manufactured in germany so you would have had similar prices
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IamaGrapeMan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada165 Posts
February 01 2011 17:21 GMT
#49
^ it's untrue that you need to bottom out the key. it only took me a few days to get used to pressing keys only halfway by feel. i disagree w/ the other stuff you said too. have you even used the keyboard before? it sounds like you're just speaking from just second hand experience.
Enyce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany43 Posts
February 01 2011 18:00 GMT
#50
When deciding to buy a 6g or 7g myself I went for the 7g.
Why I got the 7g:

- PS/2 and N-Key roll-over without adapter (I don't like adapter)
- USB, which I use for my printer and USB tools, which I use only from time to time, but not for e.g. HDD, because it's just USB1.1
- audio I/O for headset
- wrist rest which is very comfortable (doubles needed space on desktop)
- layout, because I prefer the small backspace and large shift key

If I would not use all these, I recommend a 6gv2 due to being the same basic keyboard.

Typing on Cherry black keys is very comfortable, although many people say they are not the best for typing. (I type a lot on this keyboard due to my studies.)

Hope this post will help you.

"There is nothing cooler than being passionate about the things you love." - Sean Plott
Eurekastreet
Profile Joined November 2010
1308 Posts
February 01 2011 21:19 GMT
#51
On February 02 2011 02:02 Phayze wrote:
Eurekastreet if you wanted clicky tactile feel you should have gotten blues, which are arguably best for starcraft. Because the mx blacks are very linear most of the time you have to bottom out the key to get it to activate, added on with the increased activation force it makes the steel series mech's not the best choice when it comes to rts. Sure lots of pro's use them (notably idra) but you might want to consider the black widow or das with blues. I know one person who bought the 6gv2 and returned it because for him it simply was inadequate for cevo P css (primarily) and felt awkward in sc2.

the das is manufactured in germany so you would have had similar prices



People seem to be divided when it comes to the use of blacks for SC. I can say that for fps like unreal tournament it should do a great job since double tapping seem to work like a charm. Don't know about starcraft, guess I'll test it tomorrow or some. But if players like Idra manage to play with it, I guess it can't be that bad. I'm a below average sc player (kind of new to the game) so my apm is rather low, which should give me enough time to bottom out if I need it anyway. After a couple of hours using the keyboard, and testing it to do some "speed typing" I can say that I type already faster than I ever did on a membrane keyboard, not by much (10-20% but hopefully it will still grow a bit) due to the fact that you don't need to bottom out to activate the key and the keys react very smoothly. The counterpart is that I tend to double tap a letter every 50 strokes or so because I'm not sure i pushed the key far enough....when I usually did. But if I manage to "trust my fingers" and let go, that's when this keyboard seem to shine - it is much more reactive and precise than my old dell membrane pos...it's hard to explain, it's a bit as if I am the one that has to try and catch up with the keyboard, whereas the old one was always behind (and my typing speed is not even high at all, around 50 wpm or so, wonder what a 100+ would think of it). So all in all I think it'll be reactive enough for me as time goes by. I'm sure blues and browns have their benefits too, and a slightly different feel. The 6gv2 was about 80 euros, the das was 120 or some...not much more but still....I didn't want to invest too much for a first mech keyboard in case i was disappointed and I'm not sure the sound level of the das would not be a problem (the 6v2 is pretty silent in comparaison from what info I could gather online). Black widow is certainly a good keyboard, in the same price range but the looks of it were a no go for me, too many flashy lights, extra keys I would never use, and so on, I wanted something that looked....simple, a bit retro.

Now do I think it will make me a better starcraft player ? No, at least not at my level, maybe pros would benefit from the edge it brings to their apm (speed and precision) and general micro skills but for the average user, no. But it brings potential, if you come from membrane it will make you wanna work your apm/wpm which is not a bad thing and all in all is a nice object and makes you wanna try other keyboards (I'm sure I'll badly wanna try some blue and brown cherry in the future)
"2 cannons, it's not one cannons" - White-Ra
MMStroms
Profile Joined October 2010
United States11 Posts
February 02 2011 00:11 GMT
#52
I must say, the 6gv2 is the best keyboard I have ever used. For the price it is better than the 7g.

after 3 months of using the mx blacks, I love them. It takes a while but you'll get used to them.
seansye
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1722 Posts
February 03 2011 02:16 GMT
#53
On December 20 2010 13:33 iNcontroL wrote:
if you ever want to go to a lan you need the 6gv2

Also if you unplug your keyboard a lot you need to make sure and turn the computer off with the 7 otherwise you run the risk of doing some damage.



Is this true, cause recently my 6gv2 q,w,er,u,i,o,p buttons were not working and I had to send it in for warranty.
I will master Speshul Taktics.!
Eurekastreet
Profile Joined November 2010
1308 Posts
February 03 2011 11:12 GMT
#54

On December 20 2010 13:33 iNcontroL wrote:
if you ever want to go to a lan you need the 6gv2

Also if you unplug your keyboard a lot you need to make sure and turn the computer off with the 7 otherwise you run the risk of doing some damage.




Noobie question but since I just bought that keyboard, I'd rather ask : what does mean " turn the computer off with the 7 " ?
"2 cannons, it's not one cannons" - White-Ra
Enyce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany43 Posts
February 03 2011 14:42 GMT
#55
On February 03 2011 20:12 Eurekastreet wrote:

Show nested quote +
On December 20 2010 13:33 iNcontroL wrote:
[...]

Also if you unplug your keyboard a lot you need to make sure and turn the computer off with the 7 otherwise you run the risk of doing some damage.

[...]

what does mean " turn the computer off with the 7 " ?


Please read iNcontroL (nested) quote

It is true that you should turn of your computer (shut down and power off) when unplugging PS/2 devices in general.
You need to do this to ensure you motherboard does not take any damage.
Because I'm a german and my technical english is not that good I will briefly explain in german, would be nice if sb. may translate for everybody.
Thanks!

German explanation:
+ Show Spoiler +

Bei PS/2 Geraeten kann es beim Ausstecken zu unerwartetem Stromfluss kommen, der zu einem Kurzschluss und zur Beschaedigung von Sicherungen auf dem Mainboard und der Southbridge fuehren kann.
USB hingegen wurde so designed, dass genau dies nicht auftreten kann und somit auch waehrend des Betriebs Geraete ein und ausgesteckt werden koennen.
Weiterhin wird fuer PS/2 Geraete beim Hochfahren die Initiierungsprotokolle ausgefuehrt, weshalb PS/2 Geraete im laufenden Betrieb nicht mehr erkannt werden.

Genauere Infos wie immer bei Wikipedia und natuerlich Google.
"There is nothing cooler than being passionate about the things you love." - Sean Plott
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-03 16:58:14
February 03 2011 16:56 GMT
#56
On February 03 2011 20:12 Eurekastreet wrote:

Show nested quote +
On December 20 2010 13:33 iNcontroL wrote:
if you ever want to go to a lan you need the 6gv2

Also if you unplug your keyboard a lot you need to make sure and turn the computer off with the 7 otherwise you run the risk of doing some damage.




Noobie question but since I just bought that keyboard, I'd rather ask : what does mean " turn the computer off with the 7 " ?
He means to turn your computer off before unplugging the 7g because you can potentially cause damage if you unplug it with your PC running since PS/2 ports are not designed to be hotswappable. Not to mention if you plug it back in the system may not pick it up until you restart anyway.

I have a 6gv2 and I like it quite a bit. It is very solid feeling and now that I'm used to it I don't like to use anything else, especially for CS.
"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
skp
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada134 Posts
February 03 2011 17:24 GMT
#57
Regarding unplugging PS/2 ports. Is it fine to unplug while on sleep/hibernate mode?
Eurekastreet
Profile Joined November 2010
1308 Posts
February 03 2011 17:27 GMT
#58
On February 04 2011 01:56 Ben... wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2011 20:12 Eurekastreet wrote:

On December 20 2010 13:33 iNcontroL wrote:
if you ever want to go to a lan you need the 6gv2

Also if you unplug your keyboard a lot you need to make sure and turn the computer off with the 7 otherwise you run the risk of doing some damage.




Noobie question but since I just bought that keyboard, I'd rather ask : what does mean " turn the computer off with the 7 " ?
He means to turn your computer off before unplugging the 7g because you can potentially cause damage if you unplug it with your PC running since PS/2 ports are not designed to be hotswappable. Not to mention if you plug it back in the system may not pick it up until you restart anyway.

I have a 6gv2 and I like it quite a bit. It is very solid feeling and now that I'm used to it I don't like to use anything else, especially for CS.


Thanks for the explanation!
"2 cannons, it's not one cannons" - White-Ra
danson
Profile Joined April 2010
United States689 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-03 23:44:19
February 03 2011 21:58 GMT
#59
so i want to buy a 6gv2 but its out of stock, however the Medal of Honor 6gv2 is in stock, and the pics show the same thing, so i sent in a ticket to ask if they were the same or not.

"Im a big sc2 player/fan, and I appreciate the support you guys give to the StarCraft 2 community, So I want to buy the keyboard that one of your sponsored players, IdrA, uses.

Im interested in the 6gv2 or 7g, but I see they are out of stock, and I have two questions.

1. Do you have an ETA on more stock of these keyboards?

2. There is a "medal of honor" 6gv2 available for the same price, but the pictures for it look identical as the normal 6gv2... Can you explain the difference, or perhaps send me a picture of the actual keyboard? I do not play MoH, and do not want a MoH-themed keyboard.

Thanks, and keep up the support for the Sc2 community!
"

their response.

Hi,

The MoH 6Gv2 is actually pretty much the same thing. Please be a non-Zerg player, because if you play Zerg, I will remove your account from this support system.

The 6Gv2 and 7G should be in stock within the next few months.

Regards,

xxxxx

:DDDD, so ima prolly buy the "medal of honor edition" if it doesnt look different.
Glueburn
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States496 Posts
February 03 2011 22:48 GMT
#60
just order the regular one, i bought it when it was supposedly out of stock and i got it in in 4 days.
as far as i know, they restock fairly quickly, they just run out fast.
Sometimes you have to play a long time to be able to play like yourself. - Miles Davis
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