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wshm
Profile Joined September 2010
32 Posts
March 01 2011 00:29 GMT
#41
Do any of you know if it's possible to play with one pc and encode with another one in lan? Even without xsplit, is there any streaming program that allows this?
-nubtwo-
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany12 Posts
March 04 2011 02:56 GMT
#42
same here,
i5 750 @3,6ghz
4gb ram
6950 2gb
50down/10up

tried every stream programs, if i scroll to a side
it stutters and "jumps", so there is no smooth scrolling.
Nothing works except procaster, but procaster stopped working 4 me
some weeks ago and is capped at 500 kbps.

ANY IDEASSSS?!?!
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
March 04 2011 03:51 GMT
#43
I have a problem with own3d. I start broadcasting but it still says offline, the video and sound is there but it is still marked offline... Put in a ticket on their site but they have not responded yet, does anyone know how to fix that?
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
SoapSC
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands112 Posts
March 23 2011 14:19 GMT
#44
I have problem streaming to but my problem is when i start xsplit is fine, but when i start up a game like starcraft or call of duty the whole screen turns black and crashes?
umad?
OnYourWifi
Profile Joined January 2011
United States13 Posts
March 23 2011 18:58 GMT
#45
There seems to be an issue with the framerate setting in xsplit being tied to framerate in-game. If I set xsplit to a reasonable 20fps, SC2 runs between 20 and 30fps, and seems to "drop" frames and stutter. If I set it to 60fps, SC2 runs buttery-smooth at 60fps (where i have it capped). Problem is, xsplit drops frames like crazy at that speed. Note that despite it appearing that XSplit is having a tough time, the CPU utilization does not change. Tweaking with the settings, 10fps seems to give me ~50fps in-game. Anything between 15 and 30 results in ~30fps in SC2, with some weird stuttering/frame dropping going on in-game (though the stream quality is fine).

This isn't a CPU speed issue that I can see. My i7 920 shows xsplit at 10% usage max, and the same goes for SC2. My Radeon 6950 can handle way more than the minimized graphical settings I use; if I max nearly everything out the same framerate issues are there. Setting core affinity does not affect the problem. There's some quirk of xsplit, or of VH Screen Capture, that is forcing the framerate to a specific level depending on the capture framerate. Kind of like VSync i'm guessing. Note that enabling and disabling vsync does nothing to affect this issue.

Let's further confuse things. If I set XSplit to 60fps, and SC2 is running perfectly fine at 60fps in fullscreen-windowed mode, XSplit's video display and the stream stutter and drop frames like crazy. Alt-tabbing to any other application results in the stream running fine. SC2 stays fast, and xsplit runs great, ONLY when SC2 is NOT in-focus. O.o

There's still a few more things to try. My main monitor is 16:10, which might affect things. Setting it to a 16 ratio might help. There could be a weird scaling issue somewhere. Same with trying the same streaming setup, but with FMLE. XSplit forces VH Screen Capture to use the same framerate that XSplit will stream in. FMLE doesn't do that. Perhaps setting VH to 60fps, but telling FMLE to stream at 20, will work.
MyNameIsAlex
Profile Joined March 2011
Greece827 Posts
March 28 2011 18:04 GMT
#46
On March 24 2011 03:58 OnYourWifi wrote:
There seems to be an issue with the framerate setting in xsplit being tied to framerate in-game. If I set xsplit to a reasonable 20fps, SC2 runs between 20 and 30fps, and seems to "drop" frames and stutter. If I set it to 60fps, SC2 runs buttery-smooth at 60fps (where i have it capped). Problem is, xsplit drops frames like crazy at that speed. Note that despite it appearing that XSplit is having a tough time, the CPU utilization does not change. Tweaking with the settings, 10fps seems to give me ~50fps in-game. Anything between 15 and 30 results in ~30fps in SC2, with some weird stuttering/frame dropping going on in-game (though the stream quality is fine).

This isn't a CPU speed issue that I can see. My i7 920 shows xsplit at 10% usage max, and the same goes for SC2. My Radeon 6950 can handle way more than the minimized graphical settings I use; if I max nearly everything out the same framerate issues are there. Setting core affinity does not affect the problem. There's some quirk of xsplit, or of VH Screen Capture, that is forcing the framerate to a specific level depending on the capture framerate. Kind of like VSync i'm guessing. Note that enabling and disabling vsync does nothing to affect this issue.

Let's further confuse things. If I set XSplit to 60fps, and SC2 is running perfectly fine at 60fps in fullscreen-windowed mode, XSplit's video display and the stream stutter and drop frames like crazy. Alt-tabbing to any other application results in the stream running fine. SC2 stays fast, and xsplit runs great, ONLY when SC2 is NOT in-focus. O.o

There's still a few more things to try. My main monitor is 16:10, which might affect things. Setting it to a 16 ratio might help. There could be a weird scaling issue somewhere. Same with trying the same streaming setup, but with FMLE. XSplit forces VH Screen Capture to use the same framerate that XSplit will stream in. FMLE doesn't do that. Perhaps setting VH to 60fps, but telling FMLE to stream at 20, will work.



This is the exact same problem Im having... Anyone has a solution?
Dakk
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden572 Posts
March 28 2011 18:32 GMT
#47
I used XSplit as well, with i7 2600k, 5850 and 8gb ram. It was terrible, i follwed this guide http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=124256 but with justintv instead, and it is alot better
I will not fear, Fear is the mindkiller. Fear is the little death.
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
March 28 2011 18:39 GMT
#48
i7, 5370, 8GB RAM, I don't experience any of those problems... Not sure what would cause them since some of the machines listed are better than mine while I'm not getting any problems out of mine.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
MyNameIsAlex
Profile Joined March 2011
Greece827 Posts
March 28 2011 18:44 GMT
#49
On March 29 2011 03:39 GreEny K wrote:
i7, 5370, 8GB RAM, I don't experience any of those problems... Not sure what would cause them since some of the machines listed are better than mine while I'm not getting any problems out of mine.


im on i7 920/6gb ram@1333/hd5850 : /


cant stream because even though I have high fps in game (above 50 constantly), the game stutters all the time. its getting really annoying.

what are your settings on xsplit? do you use win7 64?
nuker43
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1 Post
Last Edited: 2011-03-29 02:47:16
March 29 2011 02:46 GMT
#50
same exact problem with the stuttering... I7 overclocked to 4.1ghz 12gb ram gtx480.. should not be stuttering... cant use xsplit
vdro
Profile Joined April 2011
Poland2 Posts
April 01 2011 15:18 GMT
#51
welcome
i was using xspli with 3d quite long
3 days ago it suddenly goes to BAD quality
i didnt touch program, and my stream looks like mario bros
really bad quality

any change i made was my drivers to nvidia gf 460gtx (beta)
so i restored them
so my stream looks like a crap
cant fix it
if any1 got similar problem or fixed it. please help
Purpose2
Profile Joined August 2010
England187 Posts
April 06 2011 18:32 GMT
#52
On March 24 2011 03:58 OnYourWifi wrote:
There seems to be an issue with the framerate setting in xsplit being tied to framerate in-game. If I set xsplit to a reasonable 20fps, SC2 runs between 20 and 30fps, and seems to "drop" frames and stutter. If I set it to 60fps, SC2 runs buttery-smooth at 60fps (where i have it capped). Problem is, xsplit drops frames like crazy at that speed. Note that despite it appearing that XSplit is having a tough time, the CPU utilization does not change. Tweaking with the settings, 10fps seems to give me ~50fps in-game. Anything between 15 and 30 results in ~30fps in SC2, with some weird stuttering/frame dropping going on in-game (though the stream quality is fine).

This isn't a CPU speed issue that I can see. My i7 920 shows xsplit at 10% usage max, and the same goes for SC2. My Radeon 6950 can handle way more than the minimized graphical settings I use; if I max nearly everything out the same framerate issues are there. Setting core affinity does not affect the problem. There's some quirk of xsplit, or of VH Screen Capture, that is forcing the framerate to a specific level depending on the capture framerate. Kind of like VSync i'm guessing. Note that enabling and disabling vsync does nothing to affect this issue.

Let's further confuse things. If I set XSplit to 60fps, and SC2 is running perfectly fine at 60fps in fullscreen-windowed mode, XSplit's video display and the stream stutter and drop frames like crazy. Alt-tabbing to any other application results in the stream running fine. SC2 stays fast, and xsplit runs great, ONLY when SC2 is NOT in-focus. O.o

There's still a few more things to try. My main monitor is 16:10, which might affect things. Setting it to a 16 ratio might help. There could be a weird scaling issue somewhere. Same with trying the same streaming setup, but with FMLE. XSplit forces VH Screen Capture to use the same framerate that XSplit will stream in. FMLE doesn't do that. Perhaps setting VH to 60fps, but telling FMLE to stream at 20, will work.

I'm having this identical problem every since I reformated (Could be a co-incidence) - Have you noticed that on your preview screen on Xsplit, that while the game appears to be dropping frames, your mouse is still moving around smooth as a babies bottom?

Have you had any further success? Its making me tear my hair out :/
Twitter @PurposeGaming
HellGreen
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark1146 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-09 11:08:35
April 06 2011 21:50 GMT
#53
I know of several people with this problem, myself included. Different hardware, internet speeds, game grapgics and XSplit settings. I'm not going to repeat everything already said, but I will add that we have one thing in common: Just having XSplit running (but not broadcasting) is enough to screw up our SC2 fps. As "OnYourWifi" stated, XSplit definitely does something to SC2. Even just in the game menu our fps change (observed with CTRL+ALT+F) when starting up XSplit.

That said, please remember XSplit is still beta software, but so far its the best there is (IMHO).

Edit:
Oh yeah, and if you upgrade to the latest beta (beta 2 I think, you can't download it from their website, you have to sign into XSplit with a special username/password found on their forums), everything is even worse. Hopefully they release a new build soon
Free to do whatever I want!
Purpose2
Profile Joined August 2010
England187 Posts
April 07 2011 07:05 GMT
#54
attempting to find a rolled back version of the xsplit client because I wasn't having this issue previous to the current build
Twitter @PurposeGaming
HellGreen
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark1146 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-16 13:16:18
April 13 2011 23:08 GMT
#55
In this thread they seem to have found a solution by using the latest version available (v. 1.2.1.36/Core Public Beta 2 1.0.1103.1702) and re-doing all scenes. I will try this out and give you an update.

Update:
After upgrading to v. 1.2.1.40/Core Public Beta 2 (1.0.1104.1401) the lag has disappeared for me. The upgrade was offered to me when I started XSplit.
Free to do whatever I want!
ChefMicro
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands6 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-18 15:01:04
April 18 2011 14:56 GMT
#56
The last update did not fix the problem for me. I'm having exactly the same problem as many others in this thread.

I've got this incredible monstrous pc. Specs are:

Intel i7-975 Extreme @ 4.2 Ghz
2100 Mhz 12GB DDR3
2 x OCX Vertex 2 (raid 0)
Ati 4870x2

I run SC2 on low settings because I like that. I get infinite FPS, but whenever I start Xsplit SC2 starts lagging. I don't even need to stream in order for sc2 to become unplayable, so it has NOTHING to do with settings.

Lowering bitrate, quality, resolution, it all does not matter. It has something to do with xsplit or sc2, or both. Whenever I start streaming, I can't tell the difference performance wise, it's just that xsplit causes low fps.

It's also worth mentioning that I play fullscreen windowed.

I think it has something to do with the stage, it duplicates an infinite amount of windows inside its window. That must keep the cpu busy or something. Got it set to 10%, that's all I can do.

I'd really like to start streaming, but like this I can barely play Anybody found a solution?
Let's cook some delicious Starcraft 2!
HellGreen
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark1146 Posts
April 19 2011 00:04 GMT
#57
On April 18 2011 23:56 ChefMicro wrote:
The last update did not fix the problem for me. I'm having exactly the same problem as many others in this thread.
Anybody found a solution?


What version are running?

The infinite scene duplication is normal, you can disable it in options if you like to.
Free to do whatever I want!
ChefMicro
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands6 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-19 15:11:00
April 19 2011 08:06 GMT
#58
I'm running public beta 2. I've tried unchecking and checking all the boxes, tried every resolution, framerate and bitrate. Whenever I run Xsplit my sc2 chops up, even if I don't stream. It lags a lot when I'm scrolling the screen and it skips frames now and then. Running Xsplit should not decrease performance from 300 frames to 30, there is just something wrong with it.

UPDATE
Xsplit is aware of the bug, their 'uncheck motion and redo screen region' solution did not work for me, and a lot of others still have the ingame framerate issue. Their topic can be found here.
Let's cook some delicious Starcraft 2!
cleric-
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany33 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-20 12:55:27
April 20 2011 12:33 GMT
#59
Hi im using xsplit with justin.tv its very easy to set up i thought, my system is
i5 2500K @ 3.30GHz ocerclocked
currenty a HD4850 later i have a HD6850
4gb ram
i set 2 cores using sc2.exe and 2 cores xsplit
my xsplit settings are: resolution 640x480 (dunno if i can do more, these were suggested in a forum somewhere)
framrate: 20fps (also suggested and i guess i can try more later but max 30)
scare viewport 10% (some here said it makes a huge difference
Quality: 5
max bitrate: 350 buffer: 700
its running with constang 200fps
the stream is running very good i guess but the sound is very strange dunno why
im usin 2 soundcards. the onboard for ingame sound with headset und an 5.1 creative for 5.1 system with musc. as far as i know xsplit is using the sound directly from source or something, what i have to set in sc2 settings to try to fix it??
its normal that the mouse is glimmering all the time when xsplit is running?

and how can i stop justin.tv to post all my little testing phases directly on the page? is there any autopost video setting or what??
notmytroll
Profile Joined April 2011
6 Posts
April 20 2011 13:26 GMT
#60
Swapped my ATi Card for an Nvidia Card. No problems since then. Guess it has to do with the shitty ATi drivers, sorry guys
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