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So I switched to xsplit broadcaster + own3d.tv a week ago, because the quality on livestream together with procaster is quite bad.
While the quality is great with xsplit, for some reason it's stuttering real bad when I scroll the screen around in sc2. I wouldn't create this thread if I just had a bad computer and not good fps(aka sub 60 fps).
Problem is I am constantly above 100 fps while streaming and moving around the screen, but it is still not smooth at all. Normally I run the graphics on a mix of ultra/high/med, I switched down to all low and still horrible. I've tried all kinds of xsplit settings such as lower stream resolution, lower quality number and less kbps.
These have all failed to smooth out the stuttering while moving around the screen.
What I've tried, and has made it smooth, is lowering my broadcasting fps to extremes such as 6 fps, and my actual capture resolution to about half of my screen's res (1680x1050). While these smooth it out, the stream becomes unwatchable.
Also I believe these solutions don't solve the underlying problem, as the computer can just muscle out the un-smoothness which is happening.
My computer's specs are as follow:
Intel i7 930 overclocked to 4 GHz
Ati 5850, stock clocks.
6 GB DDR3 ram
Don't have an SSD but that shouldn't matter as much while streaming and not recording on to hdd.
My stream output resolution is 1280x720, upload bitrate 500 kbps, stream quality 6, frame rate 20 fps.
The audio is 16bit 44,100 Hz stereo 64 kbps.
I doubt these specs should struggle streaming sc2 at 1680x1050.
There's no stuttering on the stream but it feels very hindering while playing because of it.
I'd like to hear other streamer's comments on xsplit + sc2 and how their experience is with it.
I'm open to any ideas to try that you might have. Because I love streaming and providing solid play for people to watch and enjoy.
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What are your settings in xsplit broadcaster?
bitrate? video quality setting? audio quality setting?
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Ahh sorry I completely forgot about adding those, I will add into OP.
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Have you assigned SC2 its own cores and Xsplit its own cores?
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Yeah I've tried that with different combinations of affinities and priorities, They yield the same performance for me. ;;
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Posting here to say I have the exact same problems and I'm running an i7-875K at 3.0 Ghz (quad core). And it is literally the exact same problem. In game FPS claims it is 60+ but it looks and feels more like 20 while playing, especially when panning the screen. I get the exact same problem using FME + VHScrCap. The only software that works for me is Procaster, which has no noticeable effect on ingame performance. I've tried dropping ingame graphics options to lowest settings. I've tried lowering stream quality to lowest possible settings. I've even tried playing with xsplit or FME + VHScrCap running, but not uploading (ie not connected to a server) and the problem still persists. I have spend a lot of time on this problem, b/c I would much rather broadcast to Ow3d.tv or Ustream b/c of livestream's low upload limit.
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Do you have the Optimize for Motion Picture setting on in broadcaster?
(Or turned OFF the optimize screen capture setting in plain VHScrCap)
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Try turning vsync off in sc2 in case you have it on.
You computer should be able to handle the game + stream just fine.
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I have this exact issue and I'm running an i7 also.
I don't have vsync on or have that optimize box checked.
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what's your internet connection? Low upload speeds can make both the stream and the game very laggy nomatter what system specs your running.
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On December 20 2010 17:31 viet wrote:
I have this exact issue and I'm running an i7 also.
I don't have vsync on or have that optimize box checked.
You DO want the "Optimize for Motion Video" (or something like that) checked in Broadcaster.
You DON'T want the "Optimize Screen Capture" in VHScrCap.
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On December 20 2010 21:20 Kelsin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2010 17:31 viet wrote:
I have this exact issue and I'm running an i7 also.
I don't have vsync on or have that optimize box checked. You DO want the "Optimize for Motion Video" (or something like that) checked in Broadcaster. You DON'T want the "Optimize Screen Capture" in VHScrCap.
That's interesting because I've done some testing....
"Optimize for motion picture" UNCHECKED: No noticeable impact on game. Stream stutters very bad and frequently black screens.
"Optimize for motion picture" CHECKED: Stream runs fine...Game lags horrible. Capped at about 50 fps but feels and looks stuttery.
Also, vsync is turned OFF in SC2.
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Yeah... interesting, unfortunately we're at the limit of my knowledge about that stuff. It has the impact on the stream I would imagine, but I don't know why your computer is crapping out. You have a much better one than I do.
I know this is a huge crapshoot, but have you tried unclocking the CPU?
(For sc2 as you saw you do want that option checked, otherwise the capture driver gets hints from windows about when things change... when windows move etc, which is not what you want.)
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On December 20 2010 21:20 Kelsin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2010 17:31 viet wrote:
I have this exact issue and I'm running an i7 also.
I don't have vsync on or have that optimize box checked. You DO want the "Optimize for Motion Video" (or something like that) checked in Broadcaster. You DON'T want the "Optimize Screen Capture" in VHScrCap.
Yeah that's what I meant, in VHScrCap.
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I have the same problem as you, and I found out what was causing it... It's the windowed (full screen) mode. While streaming on full screen, it runs perfect for me, 0 lag, like I have no streaming running at all. But, in battles, the screen begins to make a lot of flashes and its unwatchable. So I have no option but to put it back to windowed full screen T_T.
In own3d's website you can read this "XSplit Broadcaster doesn’t support Full-Screen capture (yet), you should use your game in windowed (full) mode and you probably won’t notice any difference, but it will make XSplit work." so you can clearly see that it's their problem and that "yet" may say that they already know the issue and are working on it. Let's just hope the fix it soon.
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has anyone here come up with a solution yet? i have a similiar problem
intel core i7 2.8 ghz
radeon hd 5870
6 GB RAM
streaming with quality 4, 640x360, 650 kbit and it still doesnt very smooth to play. some other guy sent me a PM some time ago linking me to this thread, but i already tried the optimaze for motion video thta is recommended here and it didnt help. i also changed some stuff in windows settings that turns off the windows 64 special effect thingy in the taskbar (so sc2 is shining through)
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I disabled the Aero theme and it worked really well. FPS of the stream went from 15 to 30 no problem.
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Yeah disabling aero in Windows Vista/7 is an absolute must for Xsplit, it simply won't work with it enabled.
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Have same problem here (and its the same with VHScrap and FME).
The game say it runs over 200fps but it is slow, and dodgy. If anyone have solved this issue please reply:
Computer speccs:
i7-920
HD 4890
8GB ram
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streaming also depends on your internet connection, if you have a crappy connection, and trying to streaming HD, it will never happen
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On January 09 2011 07:32 apm66 wrote:
streaming also depends on your internet connection, if you have a crappy connection, and trying to streaming HD, it will never happen
Then there should be latency issues, this is not the case as its frame-rate dips
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On January 09 2011 12:22 JoxxOr wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2011 07:32 apm66 wrote:
streaming also depends on your internet connection, if you have a crappy connection, and trying to streaming HD, it will never happen Then there should be latency issues, this is not the case as its frame-rate dips
Ah. Well, I guess I'm having the exact same problem as OP. My fps drops from 90-100 to 10-25fps too once I go live with xsplit
EDIT:
The following settings seemed to have fixed the fps drop for me. Now it sometimes drops down to 85fps, or doesn't drop at all.
- Channel: justin.tv ( ustream wasnt good for me )
- checked 'boost capture framerate'
- unchecked 'optimized for motion picture'
- res: 1088x612 (ws)
- framerate: 20
- scale viewport: 10% (makes a huge diff)
- Quality:5 , max bitrate: 350, buffer: 700
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I have a friend who is having a similar problem. Under fraps the fps doesn't drop but everything stutters. As an example sometimes the drones will just skip. It only seems to happen in windowed mode but you can't really stream fullscreen. He had the same problem when using vidblaster so it doesn't seem application specific. His specs:
i7-960 3.2GHz
ATI 5870
6GB RAM
Win7 64-bit
Disabling optimize for motion picture also has no benefits. He streams at 640x400, quality 6, FPS 20. I have a much much worse PC than him and I can stream using XSplit with no fps drop/ stuttering. A solution would be great!
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for me xsplit just records black screen when i click to starcraft =(
very sad.
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is there anyone with a radeon who doesn't have this problem? looking at the specs of the people here and adding myself with a radeon to that list, it might be radeon related.
Edit: So after taking a close look at SC2 without having anything running (no stream at all), I more or less come to the conclusion that the SC2 engine itself just seems to stutter if you take a too close look at it ... I will run a placebo test with dario and tell him the stream is running (when it isn't) and when I am pretty sure he will complain about it being not smooth.
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I have a 5750 and have none of the problems described here. Although, my graphics settings are vastly lower than what my video card can handle (all medium). Also, don't know if it matters or not, but I have Vsync enabled. However, I'm fairly sure this is cpu related as opposed to gpu related. If you're having this problem, I think going through the SC2 graphics options and lowering the things that are cpu related should help.
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What's your upload rate?
Everyone says all these suggestions, but no one gives all the info.
On January 20 2011 19:36 TBO wrote:
is there anyone with a radeon who doesn't have this problem? looking at the specs of the people here and adding myself with a radeon to that list, it might be radeon related.
Edit: So after taking a close look at SC2 without having anything running (no stream at all), I more or less come to the conclusion that the SC2 engine itself just seems to stutter if you take a too close look at it ... I will run a placebo test with dario and tell him the stream is running (when it isn't) and when I am pretty sure he will complain about it being not smooth.
It's not Radeon related. I have a 5850 and have helped a lot of people with equal or similar builds.
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Reading through this thread, it seems like an i7 related problem. No one in this thread has an i5/AMD processor etc. Very strange.
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I have an AMD and 5770 and I have this issue, so I kind of doubt it's i7 related.
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U have to raise the max Bitrate, for the High Resolution Streaming ur Internet Upload speed has to be higher.
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hi hi,
FYI
my issuse of having a black screen was because it wont record in full screen mode with xsplit, it does record on fullscreen (windowed) display... very very odd and annoying issue!!!
anyhoo, now i'll just work on getting a better internet connection.
hope that helps someone =)
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bump. same problem.
scrolling looks really bad, as soon xsplit is opened.
core2quad q8300 @2.75ghz
radeon 5700
4gb ram
any news? did anyone tried other broadcaster, like dyyno or something like that?
edit: i tested it with wirecast instead of xsplit, same problem :[
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having this same issue using fme 2.5 + vhs + justin.tv
system i7-920, windows 7 64, 6gb ram, 2x ati 4890s, 60mbps/6mbps
im using settings from http://multiboxing.com/forums/f2/exact-way-stream-fme-jtv-read-1116.html and my ingame fps is high, stream looks fine, bitrate is set to 2000, but there's some weird stuttering problem. just having fme open causes it. it looks almost identical to what happens when i turn vsync on (whatever that means).
edit: 80% solved the stuttering by turning crossfire (sli) off and turning off ati's monitoring crap in the task manager (MOM.exe) but some still exists. i can't use the newer ati drivers to see if that fixes anything because obviously they cause sc2 mouse issues.
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killing MOM.exe doesn't help :[
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I have a sound issue with xsplit but I didnt want to make a new thread. People can hear people I talk to on skype but they cannot hear me, how can I fix this?
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On February 28 2011 06:07 GreEny K wrote:
I have a sound issue with xsplit but I didnt want to make a new thread. People can hear people I talk to on skype but they cannot hear me, how can I fix this?
What's your sound input set to? If its the generic system audio mix, you can set it to your microphone. XSplit automatically records the system sounds on its own without needing that to be set.
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I get the same problem with:
q9550 @ 3.5ghz
radeon 5770
4gb ram
all settings on sc2 are at low except textures, model and effects which are at their highest settings.
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i have an amd phenom 955, and im streaming with xplit on justin.tv with 500mb bitrate and on ultra settings, oddly enough i see no problems lol
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On February 28 2011 06:42 Vearo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 06:07 GreEny K wrote:
I have a sound issue with xsplit but I didnt want to make a new thread. People can hear people I talk to on skype but they cannot hear me, how can I fix this? What's your sound input set to? If its the generic system audio mix, you can set it to your microphone. XSplit automatically records the system sounds on its own without needing that to be set.
ohh that might be it... Also, would that have my mic on at all times? I don't want it to be constantly broadcasting my mic, only when I am talking to people on skype or ventrilo.
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Do any of you know if it's possible to play with one pc and encode with another one in lan? Even without xsplit, is there any streaming program that allows this?
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same here,
i5 750 @3,6ghz
4gb ram
6950 2gb
50down/10up
tried every stream programs, if i scroll to a side
it stutters and "jumps", so there is no smooth scrolling.
Nothing works except procaster, but procaster stopped working 4 me
some weeks ago and is capped at 500 kbps.
ANY IDEASSSS?!?!
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I have a problem with own3d. I start broadcasting but it still says offline, the video and sound is there but it is still marked offline... Put in a ticket on their site but they have not responded yet, does anyone know how to fix that?
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I have problem streaming to but my problem is when i start xsplit is fine, but when i start up a game like starcraft or call of duty the whole screen turns black and crashes?
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There seems to be an issue with the framerate setting in xsplit being tied to framerate in-game. If I set xsplit to a reasonable 20fps, SC2 runs between 20 and 30fps, and seems to "drop" frames and stutter. If I set it to 60fps, SC2 runs buttery-smooth at 60fps (where i have it capped). Problem is, xsplit drops frames like crazy at that speed. Note that despite it appearing that XSplit is having a tough time, the CPU utilization does not change. Tweaking with the settings, 10fps seems to give me ~50fps in-game. Anything between 15 and 30 results in ~30fps in SC2, with some weird stuttering/frame dropping going on in-game (though the stream quality is fine).
This isn't a CPU speed issue that I can see. My i7 920 shows xsplit at 10% usage max, and the same goes for SC2. My Radeon 6950 can handle way more than the minimized graphical settings I use; if I max nearly everything out the same framerate issues are there. Setting core affinity does not affect the problem. There's some quirk of xsplit, or of VH Screen Capture, that is forcing the framerate to a specific level depending on the capture framerate. Kind of like VSync i'm guessing. Note that enabling and disabling vsync does nothing to affect this issue.
Let's further confuse things. If I set XSplit to 60fps, and SC2 is running perfectly fine at 60fps in fullscreen-windowed mode, XSplit's video display and the stream stutter and drop frames like crazy. Alt-tabbing to any other application results in the stream running fine. SC2 stays fast, and xsplit runs great, ONLY when SC2 is NOT in-focus. O.o
There's still a few more things to try. My main monitor is 16:10, which might affect things. Setting it to a 16 ratio might help. There could be a weird scaling issue somewhere. Same with trying the same streaming setup, but with FMLE. XSplit forces VH Screen Capture to use the same framerate that XSplit will stream in. FMLE doesn't do that. Perhaps setting VH to 60fps, but telling FMLE to stream at 20, will work.
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On March 24 2011 03:58 OnYourWifi wrote:There seems to be an issue with the framerate setting in xsplit being tied to framerate in-game. If I set xsplit to a reasonable 20fps, SC2 runs between 20 and 30fps, and seems to "drop" frames and stutter. If I set it to 60fps, SC2 runs buttery-smooth at 60fps (where i have it capped). Problem is, xsplit drops frames like crazy at that speed. Note that despite it appearing that XSplit is having a tough time, the CPU utilization does not change. Tweaking with the settings, 10fps seems to give me ~50fps in-game. Anything between 15 and 30 results in ~30fps in SC2, with some weird stuttering/frame dropping going on in-game (though the stream quality is fine). This isn't a CPU speed issue that I can see. My i7 920 shows xsplit at 10% usage max, and the same goes for SC2. My Radeon 6950 can handle way more than the minimized graphical settings I use; if I max nearly everything out the same framerate issues are there. Setting core affinity does not affect the problem. There's some quirk of xsplit, or of VH Screen Capture, that is forcing the framerate to a specific level depending on the capture framerate. Kind of like VSync i'm guessing. Note that enabling and disabling vsync does nothing to affect this issue. Let's further confuse things. If I set XSplit to 60fps, and SC2 is running perfectly fine at 60fps in fullscreen-windowed mode, XSplit's video display and the stream stutter and drop frames like crazy. Alt-tabbing to any other application results in the stream running fine. SC2 stays fast, and xsplit runs great, ONLY when SC2 is NOT in-focus. O.o There's still a few more things to try. My main monitor is 16:10, which might affect things. Setting it to a 16 ratio might help. There could be a weird scaling issue somewhere. Same with trying the same streaming setup, but with FMLE. XSplit forces VH Screen Capture to use the same framerate that XSplit will stream in. FMLE doesn't do that. Perhaps setting VH to 60fps, but telling FMLE to stream at 20, will work.
This is the exact same problem Im having... Anyone has a solution?
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i7, 5370, 8GB RAM, I don't experience any of those problems... Not sure what would cause them since some of the machines listed are better than mine while I'm not getting any problems out of mine.
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On March 29 2011 03:39 GreEny K wrote:
i7, 5370, 8GB RAM, I don't experience any of those problems... Not sure what would cause them since some of the machines listed are better than mine while I'm not getting any problems out of mine.
im on i7 920/6gb ram@1333/hd5850 : /
cant stream because even though I have high fps in game (above 50 constantly), the game stutters all the time. its getting really annoying.
what are your settings on xsplit? do you use win7 64?
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same exact problem with the stuttering... I7 overclocked to 4.1ghz 12gb ram gtx480.. should not be stuttering... cant use xsplit
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welcome
i was using xspli with 3d quite long
3 days ago it suddenly goes to BAD quality
i didnt touch program, and my stream looks like mario bros 
really bad quality
any change i made was my drivers to nvidia gf 460gtx (beta)
so i restored them
so my stream looks like a crap
cant fix it
if any1 got similar problem or fixed it. please help
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On March 24 2011 03:58 OnYourWifi wrote:There seems to be an issue with the framerate setting in xsplit being tied to framerate in-game. If I set xsplit to a reasonable 20fps, SC2 runs between 20 and 30fps, and seems to "drop" frames and stutter. If I set it to 60fps, SC2 runs buttery-smooth at 60fps (where i have it capped). Problem is, xsplit drops frames like crazy at that speed. Note that despite it appearing that XSplit is having a tough time, the CPU utilization does not change. Tweaking with the settings, 10fps seems to give me ~50fps in-game. Anything between 15 and 30 results in ~30fps in SC2, with some weird stuttering/frame dropping going on in-game (though the stream quality is fine). This isn't a CPU speed issue that I can see. My i7 920 shows xsplit at 10% usage max, and the same goes for SC2. My Radeon 6950 can handle way more than the minimized graphical settings I use; if I max nearly everything out the same framerate issues are there. Setting core affinity does not affect the problem. There's some quirk of xsplit, or of VH Screen Capture, that is forcing the framerate to a specific level depending on the capture framerate. Kind of like VSync i'm guessing. Note that enabling and disabling vsync does nothing to affect this issue. Let's further confuse things. If I set XSplit to 60fps, and SC2 is running perfectly fine at 60fps in fullscreen-windowed mode, XSplit's video display and the stream stutter and drop frames like crazy. Alt-tabbing to any other application results in the stream running fine. SC2 stays fast, and xsplit runs great, ONLY when SC2 is NOT in-focus. O.o There's still a few more things to try. My main monitor is 16:10, which might affect things. Setting it to a 16 ratio might help. There could be a weird scaling issue somewhere. Same with trying the same streaming setup, but with FMLE. XSplit forces VH Screen Capture to use the same framerate that XSplit will stream in. FMLE doesn't do that. Perhaps setting VH to 60fps, but telling FMLE to stream at 20, will work.
I'm having this identical problem every since I reformated (Could be a co-incidence) - Have you noticed that on your preview screen on Xsplit, that while the game appears to be dropping frames, your mouse is still moving around smooth as a babies bottom?
Have you had any further success? Its making me tear my hair out :/
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I know of several people with this problem, myself included. Different hardware, internet speeds, game grapgics and XSplit settings. I'm not going to repeat everything already said, but I will add that we have one thing in common: Just having XSplit running (but not broadcasting) is enough to screw up our SC2 fps. As "OnYourWifi" stated, XSplit definitely does something to SC2. Even just in the game menu our fps change (observed with CTRL+ALT+F) when starting up XSplit.
That said, please remember XSplit is still beta software, but so far its the best there is (IMHO).
Edit:
Oh yeah, and if you upgrade to the latest beta (beta 2 I think, you can't download it from their website, you have to sign into XSplit with a special username/password found on their forums), everything is even worse. Hopefully they release a new build soon
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attempting to find a rolled back version of the xsplit client because I wasn't having this issue previous to the current build
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In this thread they seem to have found a solution by using the latest version available (v. 1.2.1.36/Core Public Beta 2 1.0.1103.1702) and re-doing all scenes. I will try this out and give you an update.
Update:
After upgrading to v. 1.2.1.40/Core Public Beta 2 (1.0.1104.1401) the lag has disappeared for me. The upgrade was offered to me when I started XSplit.
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The last update did not fix the problem for me. I'm having exactly the same problem as many others in this thread.
I've got this incredible monstrous pc. Specs are:
Intel i7-975 Extreme @ 4.2 Ghz
2100 Mhz 12GB DDR3
2 x OCX Vertex 2 (raid 0)
Ati 4870x2
I run SC2 on low settings because I like that. I get infinite FPS, but whenever I start Xsplit SC2 starts lagging. I don't even need to stream in order for sc2 to become unplayable, so it has NOTHING to do with settings.
Lowering bitrate, quality, resolution, it all does not matter. It has something to do with xsplit or sc2, or both. Whenever I start streaming, I can't tell the difference performance wise, it's just that xsplit causes low fps.
It's also worth mentioning that I play fullscreen windowed.
I think it has something to do with the stage, it duplicates an infinite amount of windows inside its window. That must keep the cpu busy or something. Got it set to 10%, that's all I can do.
I'd really like to start streaming, but like this I can barely play  Anybody found a solution?
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On April 18 2011 23:56 ChefMicro wrote:
The last update did not fix the problem for me. I'm having exactly the same problem as many others in this thread.
Anybody found a solution?
What version are running?
The infinite scene duplication is normal, you can disable it in options if you like to.
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I'm running public beta 2. I've tried unchecking and checking all the boxes, tried every resolution, framerate and bitrate. Whenever I run Xsplit my sc2 chops up, even if I don't stream. It lags a lot when I'm scrolling the screen and it skips frames now and then. Running Xsplit should not decrease performance from 300 frames to 30, there is just something wrong with it.
UPDATE
Xsplit is aware of the bug, their 'uncheck motion and redo screen region' solution did not work for me, and a lot of others still have the ingame framerate issue. Their topic can be found here.
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Hi im using xsplit with justin.tv its very easy to set up i thought, my system is
i5 2500K @ 3.30GHz ocerclocked
currenty a HD4850 later i have a HD6850
4gb ram
i set 2 cores using sc2.exe and 2 cores xsplit
my xsplit settings are: resolution 640x480 (dunno if i can do more, these were suggested in a forum somewhere)
framrate: 20fps (also suggested and i guess i can try more later but max 30)
scare viewport 10% (some here said it makes a huge difference
Quality: 5
max bitrate: 350 buffer: 700
its running with constang 200fps
the stream is running very good i guess but the sound is very strange dunno why
im usin 2 soundcards. the onboard for ingame sound with headset und an 5.1 creative for 5.1 system with musc. as far as i know xsplit is using the sound directly from source or something, what i have to set in sc2 settings to try to fix it??
its normal that the mouse is glimmering all the time when xsplit is running?
and how can i stop justin.tv to post all my little testing phases directly on the page? is there any autopost video setting or what??
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Swapped my ATi Card for an Nvidia Card. No problems since then. Guess it has to do with the shitty ATi drivers, sorry guys
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On April 20 2011 22:26 notmytroll wrote:
Swapped my ATi Card for an Nvidia Card. No problems since then. Guess it has to do with the shitty ATi drivers, sorry guys
No it doesn't. I have nvidia and I have the same issues and plenty of people posting about it on xsplit forums are running nvidia cards.
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hey guys i got the solution! like many of you my stream was fine with xsplit then with beta 2 i was streaming "choppy" or having stuttering..i spent HRS... changing all the settings even though i knew my computer could handle them...then someone told me how to fix it....there is 2 different sections in settings to have "optimize for motion video" you leave that checked in the normal settings BUT in the bottom left, where you do your screen region there is another set of settings....so in the bottom left under screen region, you need to click that settings and UNCHECK "opimize motion video" for some reason that is mislabled and that is the cause of chopiness...hope this helps you all cause i know how frustrated i was getting. I stream on 1k-2k vibrate, but i could prob do higher, 30k fps, and the hd resolution..
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I'm having exactly the same problems as OP describes. The solution that the poster above me mentions did not solve anything for me. I'm also running a Core i7 and a HD6970 and 4GB of pc16000 ram, so it's not a case of a shitty computer here either.
Oh and my fps isn't dropping when xsplit is running, but it's very jerky and unsmooth. The FPS remains around 200 with and without xsplit running. Annoying.
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My ping test was 21ms, my comp is an I7 with 16gb of ram and dual 5770 vid cards, basically top of line alienware, my prob is my stream is EXTREMELY choppy and quality is terrible, idk why!!
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Some tech genius must know the answers to this 
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On April 25 2011 04:29 crazyskills wrote:
hey guys i got the solution! like many of you my stream was fine with xsplit then with beta 2 i was streaming "choppy" or having stuttering..i spent HRS... changing all the settings even though i knew my computer could handle them...then someone told me how to fix it....there is 2 different sections in settings to have "optimize for motion video" you leave that checked in the normal settings BUT in the bottom left, where you do your screen region there is another set of settings....so in the bottom left under screen region, you need to click that settings and UNCHECK "opimize motion video" for some reason that is mislabled and that is the cause of chopiness...hope this helps you all cause i know how frustrated i was getting. I stream on 1k-2k vibrate, but i could prob do higher, 30k fps, and the hd resolution..
Listen to this man. He speaks the truth. I've been having the same problems as everyone else and this works perfectly! Thank you.
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On April 25 2011 04:29 crazyskills wrote:
hey guys i got the solution! like many of you my stream was fine with xsplit then with beta 2 i was streaming "choppy" or having stuttering..i spent HRS... changing all the settings even though i knew my computer could handle them...then someone told me how to fix it....there is 2 different sections in settings to have "optimize for motion video" you leave that checked in the normal settings BUT in the bottom left, where you do your screen region there is another set of settings....so in the bottom left under screen region, you need to click that settings and UNCHECK "opimize motion video" for some reason that is mislabled and that is the cause of chopiness...hope this helps you all cause i know how frustrated i was getting. I stream on 1k-2k vibrate, but i could prob do higher, 30k fps, and the hd resolution..
you are my hero! what an odd fix... hard to find and counterintuitive.
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On April 25 2011 04:29 crazyskills wrote:
hey guys i got the solution! like many of you my stream was fine with xsplit then with beta 2 i was streaming "choppy" or having stuttering..i spent HRS... changing all the settings even though i knew my computer could handle them...then someone told me how to fix it....there is 2 different sections in settings to have "optimize for motion video" you leave that checked in the normal settings BUT in the bottom left, where you do your screen region there is another set of settings....so in the bottom left under screen region, you need to click that settings and UNCHECK "opimize motion video" for some reason that is mislabled and that is the cause of chopiness...hope this helps you all cause i know how frustrated i was getting. I stream on 1k-2k vibrate, but i could prob do higher, 30k fps, and the hd resolution..
Oh my god!
This fixed it for me too, been struggling for HOURS!
Thank you, SO MUCH!
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Yeah, don't use XSplit/VH Screencapture. Those are total garbage compared to Dxtory.
Those programs bogs down your computer while streaming just as FRAPS does when you record. But with Dxtory you can't feel the performance drop at all. Dxtory comes with a watermark only in trial but that's enough to test your stream.
I suggest using Dxtory with FME 2.5.
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I used this:
http://multiboxing.com/forums/f2/exact-way-stream-fme-jtv-read-1116.html
This is a guide for FME 2.5 and VHScrCap using Justin.TV but you can use other screen capture programs and streaming websites as well.
For Dxtory remember to set the output to "DirectShow Output" to be able to stream. Dxtory will then have 4 "Dxtory Video x" (where x is 1-4). Just use any output, but remember to use that exact output when you use FME. And also remember to configure that output.
As for the codec I used the default one.
When the stream is up press the default start capture button, which is F12.
As a side note: Dxtory also blows FRAPS out of the water + you can finally stream games in full screen.
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On May 04 2011 20:43 dTox wrote:
Anyone made any progress?
dxtory works
no other progress for me
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On April 25 2011 04:29 crazyskills wrote:
hey guys i got the solution! like many of you my stream was fine with xsplit then with beta 2 i was streaming "choppy" or having stuttering..i spent HRS... changing all the settings even though i knew my computer could handle them...then someone told me how to fix it....there is 2 different sections in settings to have "optimize for motion video" you leave that checked in the normal settings BUT in the bottom left, where you do your screen region there is another set of settings....so in the bottom left under screen region, you need to click that settings and UNCHECK "opimize motion video" for some reason that is mislabled and that is the cause of chopiness...hope this helps you all cause i know how frustrated i was getting. I stream on 1k-2k vibrate, but i could prob do higher, 30k fps, and the hd resolution..
Wow man this actually worked, thank you sooooooo much for this fix!
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Russian Federation4 Posts
I have same problem like many in this thread and solved it using DXtory. But its not freeware. And i dont know how i can delete "DXtory.com" logo in trial version, lol. So, anyone knows something like DXtory, but freeware?
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Russian Federation4 Posts
Bump. Anyone found something? I spent about 2 weeks to fix this problem but dont made any progress.
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On April 25 2011 04:29 crazyskills wrote:
hey guys i got the solution! like many of you my stream was fine with xsplit then with beta 2 i was streaming "choppy" or having stuttering..i spent HRS... changing all the settings even though i knew my computer could handle them...then someone told me how to fix it....there is 2 different sections in settings to have "optimize for motion video" you leave that checked in the normal settings BUT in the bottom left, where you do your screen region there is another set of settings....so in the bottom left under screen region, you need to click that settings and UNCHECK "opimize motion video" for some reason that is mislabled and that is the cause of chopiness...hope this helps you all cause i know how frustrated i was getting. I stream on 1k-2k vibrate, but i could prob do higher, 30k fps, and the hd resolution..
WOAH. This fixes all the issues I've had with XSplit during the past couple of months. I also did this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=220924 and now the quality and performance I get out of XSplit is quite hard to beat. I will probably have to change back to XSplit :-]
While XSplit wasn't working, I discovered another alternative: SCFH + FMLE. I originally found it through a blog post here: http://koitsu.wordpress.com/2009/09/12/how-to-install-and-use-scfh-dsf/ , which also has a link to the page where you can download the SCFH directshow filter. SCFH is basically an alternative to VhScrCap (and Dxtory, I believe?), but while VhScrCap is commercial, this one is completely free to use. It's even open source if someone wants to take a look at the source code. I got pretty good numbers out that setup, but the quality of FMLE's encoding wasn't as good as the one I get from XSplit right now.
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On April 25 2011 04:29 crazyskills wrote:
hey guys i got the solution! like many of you my stream was fine with xsplit then with beta 2 i was streaming "choppy" or having stuttering..i spent HRS... changing all the settings even though i knew my computer could handle them...then someone told me how to fix it....there is 2 different sections in settings to have "optimize for motion video" you leave that checked in the normal settings BUT in the bottom left, where you do your screen region there is another set of settings....so in the bottom left under screen region, you need to click that settings and UNCHECK "opimize motion video" for some reason that is mislabled and that is the cause of chopiness...hope this helps you all cause i know how frustrated i was getting. I stream on 1k-2k vibrate, but i could prob do higher, 30k fps, and the hd resolution..
I only see one "optimize for non-motion picture", in the bottom left under the screen region, but I really can't find it in the "normal settings" (in the menu under Tools).
Could you explain me where it is exactly?
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On May 13 2011 21:11 NeV wrote:
I only see one "optimize for non-motion picture", in the bottom left under the screen region, but I really can't find it in the "normal settings" (in the menu under Tools).
Could you explain me where it is exactly?
If you already run the latest xsplit version this option isnt there anymore.
"Optimize for motion picture" was mislabeled and is now "optimize for non-motion picture"
which is why you had to uncheck the box. WIth latest xsplit version you just let the "...non-motion..." box unchecked.
The other option in the settings tab vanished because its no longer needed.
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On April 27 2011 03:53 kawaiiryuko wrote:
Hi guys.
I'm trying to get xsplit working but I'm having problems with sound when I have SC2 running. If I'm only running iTunes (for example), everything works great, but if I start up SC2, the sound suddenly starts to stutter, like someone talking through a fan.
Any thoughts? Much obliged!
Settings:
Video:
Format: 1280x720
Quality: 6
VBV max Bitrate: 400
Audio
Format: 44.1K, 16bit stereo
Bitrate: 64000
Codec: MP3
I have an i7 processor, Radeon 5870 video card, and 12 GB of RAM.
http://www.justin.tv/kawaiiryuko/b/285602467
Here's a sample of the problem. Go to about 0:35 and you can hear the sound issue. Odd thing is that if I use xSplit as input to FMLE, FMLE can stream to jtv just fine!
(FMLE w/ xSplit: http://www.justin.tv/kawaiiryuko/b/284634984)
Any thoughts on this? It seems so odd that if I layer xsplit through FMLE, it works fine but by itself, it fails? It doesn't seem like it is a computer resource issue so I'm hoping it is just a setting somewhere that I don't know about. Any help would be appreciated!
Thanks!
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Could this be caused by the fact that most ATI cards downclock themselves to UVD clocks even when playing a game? It also happens when you run flash video/streams with hardware acceleration while gaming at the same time. Super annoying. I am definitely getting an nvidia card next, as there doesn't seem to be any other viable solution.
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Russian Federation4 Posts
I tried to run screen capture with OC settings(static clocks) on my ati radeon hd 5850, it doesn't help.
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Russian Federation4 Posts
So bump again. Still noone found how to fix this in-game stutters?
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I have this same problem...
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some settings like physics and post processing cause stuttering with no fps drop.
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