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DaCheF
United States305 Posts
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LanTAs
United States1091 Posts
i like it gonna get used to the grip, its a claw grip. it's a pretty big change from my previous mini optical + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/8sqo0.jpg) can someone help resize the image? | ||
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Mephiztopheles1
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semantics
10040 Posts
This is the only thing i know but i've never used it so i can't say much about it. | ||
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eugen1225
Yugoslavia134 Posts
The Question aside, i can recommend a few mice (i own them all, and other that i wont recommend). 1) Razer Abyssus 8/10 3500 DPI (3500;1800;450 hardware switch on the back of the mouse) No Drift Control Infrared (optical) sensor - which i find superior to laser sensors (avoid lasers like the plague!), imo one of the best sensors on the market for gaming. If you want drift control on your mouse, get the Razer Salmosa, but i think the abyssus is better. Cons. : 1)800 DPI is not an option on the hardware DPI switch, i dont understand why since Salmosa had 800 as an option. 2)The shape, i love my gaming performance with this mouse (these mice), but my hand starts hurting a lot even after 30 min of gaming on the abyssus/salmosa, it makes me sad, i switched to another mouse because of this. I don't know if it causes palm pain for others. 2) Razer Deathadder 9/10 3500 DPI 3.5G infrared Sensor (optical) - side by side with abyssus' sensor, one of the best on the market, no bad thing to say about this sensor, its flawless. No Drift control (out of the box or after firmware update, cant really remember )It has a profile button to switch between memorised profiles, so its good for LAN's. Its shape is simmilar to the Intelli explorer 3.0, a nice shape, comfortable on the arm, your palm doasn't hurt even from longer gaming times (hours). In my opinion the best ergonomic mouse on the market, and perhaps the best overall mouse. Cons.: 1) The mouse click is maybe a bit to deep, so clicking fast and continuous is a bit problematic, but mby its just my mouse... after a lot of gaming...  3) Roccat Kova 8/10 (the mouse I'm using at the moment) 3200 DPI (3200/1600/800/400) Multicolored Led No Drivers (everything is switched from mouse combinations, DPI, coloring, lighting, everything! this is great!) DRIFT CONTROL!!! - This mouse has drift control, and it cant be turned off its small, the same size as the abyssus, but it doesn't cause palm pain unlike the abyssus, this could be specific for me. It's very light. Some may like this, some may not. It's all about preference. Cons.: *drift control*? (there might be someone that likes drift control. I don't) 4) Logitech mx518 9/10 This is an albeit 'old', good mouse. 1800 DPI (1800/800/400) Optical has DRIFT CONTROL!!! Imo Logitech has always had, and still has the best mouse feet, this mouse glides very nice. Its durable, can withstand a lot of punishment. The click is a bit hard but not deep and it softens a bit in time. Hardware switch for DPI Very nice ergonomic shape, i can play on it for hours and not get palm pain. Cons.  rift Control*? (again, some may not see this as a con, it's my personal preference, and the only bad thing i have to say about this mouse).If you must buy a small, ambidextrous mouse, look at Abyssus/Salmosa and Kova, the important specs are up there, you should be able to pick easy. If you want to buy an ergonomic mouse, buy the DeathAdder, it will server you well, you wont regret it. Avoid Laser mice, sensitivity is different on laser mice compared to optical(infrared), and they wont track well on every mouse mat!!! Some because the surface is not to their liking, some wont work on black mats, instead of buying tons of laser mice and hoping to find one with a good sensor, just avoid them, you have good alternatives! Somebody wrote that the imperator is a better DA... Imperator is not a better version of the DA, DA is a far supperior product with a better sensor, Imperator just has more bling. I have it, its garbage! Of all the mice i own, I can recommend just the above listed 4. *note* Most mice on the marker have drift control and it's not specified in the specs. It was a trend that every mouse manufacturer embraced, and now slowly reject. Most of the newer Razer mice don't have drift control, or have firmware that can turn it off, if it was a feature on older models, I don't know about other manufacturers, the specs on their sites don't specify if their mice have or don't have drift control I had to find out about the Roccat Kova's by buying it. Hope this longish post helps. EDIT: accidental smiley face; and minor secs error corrected (Abyssus DPI) | ||
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eugen1225
Yugoslavia134 Posts
On December 28 2010 07:02 DaCheF wrote: Got any myths and opinions about mouse pads? There are only 2 types of mats, hard and soft mats, all mats fall under one category. Theres only 2 important things to know about mouse pads that are objective facts, the rest is preference. 1)The mouse glides faster on hard mats. They 'increase sensitivity' by increasing the speed of the mouse on them. This comes at a price though. hard mats degrade mouse feet, and with time the mouse moves slower and slower due to feet degradation. This effect is true to any hard mat, be it aluminum, plastic, glass...w/e; it's physics, hard materials give more friction. Hard mats are easier to clean 2)Soft mats don't increase gliding speed as much as hard mats do, but they don't degrade mouse feet... well they do, but after a VERY long time. Soft mats get dirty easier and are a bit tougher to clean and maintain. Soft mats are almost always cheaper than hard mats. *control/speed variations of the same mat - this is preference, no amount of reading can make you decide what is for you, you just need to try and see what you like. ** Recommendation: If you are new to gaming grade mouse mats, get the 'Razer Goliathus Control'. It's a great soft mat so it wont destroy your mouse feet, a definitive improvement over regular mats in terms of gliding speed and tracking, and it's cheap, so you 'experiment' with gaming mats won't cost you much if it turns out you don't like it, but i seriously doubt this. *** DON'T BUY: Steelseries QCK mats, these mats have tracking problems on some mice. Hope this helps. | ||
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Solis_Fonte
63 Posts
On January 11 2011 06:01 eugen1225 wrote: 1) Razer Abyssus 8/10 3200 DPI (3200;1800;450 hardware switch on the back of the mouse) 3500 | ||
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AT_Tack
Germany435 Posts
On January 11 2011 06:01 eugen1225 wrote: Does 'Roccat Kone+' have 'Drift Control/correction', can anyone answer this? The Question aside, i can recommend a few mice (i own them all, and other that i wont recommend). 1) Razer Abyssus 8/10 3200 DPI (3200;1800;450 hardware switch on the back of the mouse) No Drift Control Infrared (optical) sensor - which i find superior to laser sensors (avoid lasers like the plague!), imo one of the best sensors on the market for gaming. If you want drift control on your mouse, get the Razer Salmosa, but i think the abyssus is better. Cons. : 1)800 DPI is not an option on the hardware DPI switch, i dont understand why since Salmosa had 800 as an option. 2)The shape, i love my gaming performance with this mouse (these mice), but my hand starts hurting a lot even after 30 min of gaming on the abyssus/salmosa, it makes me sad, i switched to another mouse because of this. I don't know if it causes palm pain for others. 2) Razer Deathadder 9/10 3500 DPI 3.5G infrared Sensor (optical) - side by side with abyssus' sensor, one of the best on the market, no bad thing to say about this sensor, its flawless. No Drift control (out of the box or after firmware update, cant really remember )It has a profile button to switch between memorised profiles, so its good for LAN's. Its shape is simmilar to the Intelli explorer 3.0, a nice shape, comfortable on the arm, your palm doasn't hurt even from longer gaming times (hours). In my opinion the best ergonomic mouse on the market, and perhaps the best overall mouse. Cons.: 1) The mouse click is maybe a bit to deep, so clicking fast and continuous is a bit problematic, but mby its just my mouse... after a lot of gaming... Actually the Abyssus is the ONLY Mouse that i can play with without having brutal wrist pain and eventual numbness. Need a flat mouse so i dont have to bend my hand upwards. Deathadder and the other "ergonimic" high mice makes playing games torture for me! | ||
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Noxie
United States2227 Posts
But the SteelSeries stuff are also top quality. It honestly comes down to comfort. | ||
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Sriver
19 Posts
On January 11 2011 06:01 eugen1225 wrote: Does 'Roccat Kone+' have 'Drift Control/correction', can anyone answer this? The Question aside, i can recommend a few mice (i own them all, and other that i wont recommend). 1) Razer Abyssus 8/10 3500 DPI (3500;1800;450 hardware switch on the back of the mouse) No Drift Control Infrared (optical) sensor - which i find superior to laser sensors (avoid lasers like the plague!), imo one of the best sensors on the market for gaming. If you want drift control on your mouse, get the Razer Salmosa, but i think the abyssus is better. Cons. : 1)800 DPI is not an option on the hardware DPI switch, i dont understand why since Salmosa had 800 as an option. 2)The shape, i love my gaming performance with this mouse (these mice), but my hand starts hurting a lot even after 30 min of gaming on the abyssus/salmosa, it makes me sad, i switched to another mouse because of this. I don't know if it causes palm pain for others. 2) Razer Deathadder 9/10 3500 DPI 3.5G infrared Sensor (optical) - side by side with abyssus' sensor, one of the best on the market, no bad thing to say about this sensor, its flawless. No Drift control (out of the box or after firmware update, cant really remember )It has a profile button to switch between memorised profiles, so its good for LAN's. Its shape is simmilar to the Intelli explorer 3.0, a nice shape, comfortable on the arm, your palm doasn't hurt even from longer gaming times (hours). In my opinion the best ergonomic mouse on the market, and perhaps the best overall mouse. Cons.: 1) The mouse click is maybe a bit to deep, so clicking fast and continuous is a bit problematic, but mby its just my mouse... after a lot of gaming... 3) Roccat Kova 8/10 (the mouse I'm using at the moment) 3200 DPI (3200/1600/800/400) Multicolored Led No Drivers (everything is switched from mouse combinations, DPI, coloring, lighting, everything! this is great!) DRIFT CONTROL!!! - This mouse has drift control, and it cant be turned off its small, the same size as the abyssus, but it doesn't cause palm pain unlike the abyssus, this could be specific for me. It's very light. Some may like this, some may not. It's all about preference. Cons.: *drift control*? (there might be someone that likes drift control. I don't) 4) Logitech mx518 9/10 This is an albeit 'old', good mouse. 1800 DPI (1800/800/400) Optical has DRIFT CONTROL!!! Imo Logitech has always had, and still has the best mouse feet, this mouse glides very nice. Its durable, can withstand a lot of punishment. The click is a bit hard but not deep and it softens a bit in time. Hardware switch for DPI Very nice ergonomic shape, i can play on it for hours and not get palm pain. Cons. rift Control*? (again, some may not see this as a con, it's my personal preference, and the only bad thing i have to say about this mouse).If you must buy a small, ambidextrous mouse, look at Abyssus/Salmosa and Kova, the important specs are up there, you should be able to pick easy. If you want to buy an ergonomic mouse, buy the DeathAdder, it will server you well, you wont regret it. Avoid Laser mice, sensitivity is different on laser mice compared to optical(infrared), and they wont track well on every mouse mat!!! Some because the surface is not to their liking, some wont work on black mats, instead of buying tons of laser mice and hoping to find one with a good sensor, just avoid them, you have good alternatives! Somebody wrote that the imperator is a better DA... Imperator is not a better version of the DA, DA is a far supperior product with a better sensor, Imperator just has more bling. I have it, its garbage! Of all the mice i own, I can recommend just the above listed 4. *note* Most mice on the marker have drift control and it's not specified in the specs. It was a trend that every mouse manufacturer embraced, and now slowly reject. Most of the newer Razer mice don't have drift control, or have firmware that can turn it off, if it was a feature on older models, I don't know about other manufacturers, the specs on their sites don't specify if their mice have or don't have drift control I had to find out about the Roccat Kova's by buying it. Hope this longish post helps. EDIT: accidental smiley face; and minor secs error corrected (Abyssus DPI) There is an option to disable drift control with the Roccat Kone+. There are many options with this mouse, including setting the lift off distance. | ||
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norlock
Netherlands918 Posts
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Touch
Canada475 Posts
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Solis_Fonte
63 Posts
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COBRA
United States26 Posts
On January 13 2011 00:47 norlock wrote: I have bought the logitech mx518 today, I am really happy with it. What do you guys think about the logitech g500 in comparison to this one. I saw both at the store. i have the G500 and let me say it is niiiice. i really enjoy using it and the DPI is great too. I like highly sensitive mice, i use all 5700 DPI and have windows mouse speed at one notch faster than default in the mouse options. It is comfy for me and i have enormous hands (6'5" and size 14 US men's shoe). Other than these things i cant really give much input because that is all i look for in a mouse | ||
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ChoboCop
United States954 Posts
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COBRA
United States26 Posts
On January 14 2011 15:18 ChoboCop wrote: The G9X is far and away the best mouse in the world. i was debating that and the G500, as it turns out they are both the EXACT same mouse, just with different casings. I found the G500 to be more comfortable since i always rest my wrist on the mousepad/table so that is the one i bought. The G9x is nice though, dont get me wrong | ||
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GinNtoniC
Sweden2945 Posts
And I've had the Logitech G7, the Logitech MX518, the Microsoft Sidewinder x8 and tried out other top of the line mice (Razer Diamondback, Lycosa, Mamba etc). It has the most amazing grip, not only in shape but also in friction. The buttons are many, but never get in the way. They're just.. there, if I need them. It has a ridoncilous range of 23 meters (~60 feet?) according to my little at-home-tests. I'm standing in my kitchen changing songs and playlists via buttons and macros I've put on it and of course - it's wireless! And don't give me the that usual crap of "oooh, wireless mice have massive delays and are bad for gamers!" Modern mice (ever since the release of G7 back in 06-07) are way and way ahead of the mice that were released back then and the latency has time and time again been proven to be non-perceiveable for the human body (less than .002 seconds). The battery time is around 6-8 hours in full gaming and I just plug in the cord lying next to it if I ever want to turn it into a standard Wired mouse (which then also charges the battery). To put in simple words: It's both helped me improve my micro in games and lets me lie on my back in bed and change episodes of my favourite series and shows, 20 feet from my computer (computer visually cloned to the TV) Yeah, it costs you $89 or something like that, but hell, is it ever worth it! That mouse and my pair of Dynavoice floor mounted speakers are the best buys I've done over the last few years. Just do it! Get one! ps. I use the mouse with a Steelpad 4D The Logitech G700 | ||
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Defeat
United States476 Posts
I know it's a few years old so it wont' have all the latest mice, but it was and probably still is one of the best mouse comparison articles out there. It was based on FPS gaming but it still has a ton of info about the mice in it. | ||
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blitzkrieger
United States512 Posts
It is extremely good for Starcraft 2, and I use it in FPS games a lot. The only problem for fps games such as BFBC2 is that it does NOT have an easy way to switch DPI. In sniper zoom you have the same sensitivity as no zoomed, except magnified. I have settled for a less than optimal turning speed on the rather small mousepad I have because of this. QCK+ mousepad works perfect with this, but I'd get the LARGE version of it if you play FPS as well. Great list btw. | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
On January 14 2011 17:45 Defeat wrote: I would recommend adding this link to the OP: http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1265679 I know it's a few years old so it wont' have all the latest mice, but it was and probably still is one of the best mouse comparison articles out there. It was based on FPS gaming but it still has a ton of info about the mice in it. It's 4 years old dated dec 2006 most of those mice aren't even sold anymore http://wikis.jp/interfacedevice/index.php?FrontPage https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0AosJbEwEG9GpdEpBMGc1ZXo0S3BLQm1YQ09jeVZ6bEE&w=100&h=650 | ||
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