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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Isaac
Profile Joined August 2010
United States810 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-12 23:55:43
November 12 2011 23:54 GMT
#14481
On November 13 2011 08:23 Shikyo wrote:
open the case and check your power supply please(most importantly combined wattage / amperage on the 12V rail)

I notice you have posted above me, are you talking to me or the other guy lol
+ Show Spoiler +

I don't know what that means but I wrote down everything on the power supply. Here is what might be what your talking about:
input; 100-127v ~/ 6A
input; 220-240v ~/ 3A
output; 12v/ 14A
ouput; 12v/ 0.3A

but here is the model which has the infos:
http://www.ascendtech.us/itemdesc.asp?ic=CSPDTADPS220UBA&eq=&Tp=
number one fan of marineking
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 13 2011 00:00 GMT
#14482
14A on the 12V rail.

I'd suggest you to buy a new power supply, the best you can do is MAYBE a Radeon HD 6670 with that PSU and CPU and that's nowhere near as powerful as you'd like it to be(can't run SC2 on ultra for instance). You'd be much better off buying a decent power supply and a card like 6770 or 6790.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
November 13 2011 00:01 GMT
#14483
On November 13 2011 07:53 Invictus212 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2011 06:47 Myrmidon wrote:
Two network cards for one computer? This is not useful unless you're passing in traffic through one and processing it, to send over the other, or have some other type of router or server functionality in mind.


What would the effects be on the computer with this kind of setup with respect to Internet connectivity/performance?

I found the following bit of text on another website, while googling for more information on the dual NIC setup.
Show nested quote +
You dont indicate why you are installing multiple network cards. If you are trying to get more speed of bandwidth over the network card, one thing to try is to get a faster switch between your computer and the one that you are trying to talk to.


I don't understand what a switch is, but is this relevant information? Would getting this switch be crucial in improving online performance (multiplayer gaming and in general)?


No real performance difference using two (unless the bottleneck is the connection between your computer and your router rather than your router, rather than between your home and your ISP, which is very rare) even if Windows could handle it well. Actually it would be slightly worse.

None of that information is relevant for what you want. Adding any kind of switch is just going to reduce the performance (negligibly).

The throughput bottleneck is the link between your home and ISP, and almost all of the latency comes from that link plus all the switches, routers, etc. between your ISP and where the traffic needs to go (say a datacenter on the other side of the country). So pretty much everything you do on your home network in terms of getting or adding different hardware doesn't matter, unless you purposefully make it worse.

What does matter that you can control is the traffic going in and out; most common example is heavy torrent activity causing the link between your home and ISP (or elsewhere) to be congested, so you get worse performance for everything.
foehammer
Profile Joined August 2009
United States80 Posts
November 13 2011 00:17 GMT
#14484
Hey guys, I need some advice on a motherboard. I am going to put a phenom II x4 965 BE, ATI hd 6850, and 4 gb gskill ram all hooked up to a 430W thermaltake(go eSports!) power supply.

I want to know which of these two motherboards is best:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=13-138-318&SortField=1&SummaryType=0&Pagesize=10&PurchaseMark=&SelectedRating=5&VideoOnlyMark=False&VendorMark=&IsFeedbackTab=true&Keywords=(keywords)#scrollFullInfo ---- 59 USD

OR

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=13-138-179&SortField=1&SummaryType=0&Pagesize=10&PurchaseMark=&SelectedRating=1&VideoOnlyMark=False&VendorMark=&IsFeedbackTab=true&Keywords=(keywords)&Page=1#scrollFullInfo --- 55 USD


I am kind of leaning towards the first one due to the reviews but they are really close and I can't decide. I am going to place the order tonight so any help would be appreciated!
Isaac
Profile Joined August 2010
United States810 Posts
November 13 2011 00:28 GMT
#14485
On November 13 2011 09:00 Shikyo wrote:
14A on the 12V rail.

I'd suggest you to buy a new power supply, the best you can do is MAYBE a Radeon HD 6670 with that PSU and CPU and that's nowhere near as powerful as you'd like it to be(can't run SC2 on ultra for instance). You'd be much better off buying a decent power supply and a card like 6770 or 6790.

Is the Radeon HD 6770 a low profile video card? How can one tell if it is and it isn't. Most sites do not list the form factor.( i think)
number one fan of marineking
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 13 2011 00:37 GMT
#14486
It's not a low profile video card I guess but it's not huge.

How about you get a tape measure and measure the maximum size the video card can be and the max expansion slots it can take?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Strayline
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States330 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-13 00:54:09
November 13 2011 00:51 GMT
#14487
Hey skyR, and everyone else. I'm upgrading and basically looking for a recommendation for the big ticket items (If I can get advice on mainborad, p/g/cpu I can probably figure out the rest.) I've attempted to do the research myself but I just don't know what parts make the most sense together and what would be overkill... thanks in advance.

------

What is your budget?

$800-$1200 Basically I have the number $1k in my mind but I'd be willing to spend a little more if there was a compelling reason. Conversely if it makes sense to drop down to the 800-900 range for a system that makes more sense I will do that. As I stated above I only really need help with the major components but please leave $2-300 of headroom for cases/ram and drives (etc) if you use this number.

What is your resolution?

2 Monitors up to 1920x1080. These I already have.

What are you using it for?

All types of gaming (and general use).

What is your upgrade cycle?

I generally upgrade when I start getting into performance issues with games that I want to play. Say 2 years.

When do you plan on building it?

ASAP.

Do you plan on overclocking?

Generally I'm not a big believer in this but I do like good cooling systems and "good brand" parts anyway. Warm fuzzies and all.

Do you need an Operating System?

No.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

Yes--either that or one of the 2 monitor cards.

Where are you buying your parts from?

Online

------

Sorry if this is a duplicate request from someone else. A link to a previous post would be great. This is a hard thread to search and I didn't see anything that looks totally applicable to me in the last few pages. Hard to search this stuff

Thanks,

Strayline
Pseudoku
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada1279 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-13 03:24:45
November 13 2011 00:51 GMT
#14488
Updated my build:
Updated again, I'm considering the i5-2500K and i5-2500 too.

I'm split on the case/CPU choice right now.
+ Show Spoiler +
Hi TL,

I'm looking at building a desktop computer (bare minimum should support 1080p and have HDMI or DVI capability).
Please let me know if I'm missing something crucial or if you have recommendations.
Note: I don't need to purchase an OS

The only retailers I will buy from in person are:
-NCIX Canada (http://www.ncix.ca) [First Markham Place location]
-Canada Computers (http://www.canadacomputers.com) [Richmond Hill or Waterloo location - preferably Richmond Hill]

I also do not wish to have parts shipped (unless free and reliable).
I am uncertain about power supplies and cases, but I'd like to build around the motherboard and CPU.
I will get fans or a power supply depending on the case I select (preferable if power supply is included with the case).
I am also in favour of companies that sponsor e-sports.

Note: All prices are in Canadian Dollars.
Build:

Case (one of):
Azza Orion 202EVO Black ATX Mid Tower 4X5.25 1X3.5 4X2.5/3.5INT 80/120MM Red LED Fans Window No PSU ($54.99 - $5 IR - $20 MIR = $29.99)
Azza Helios 910 Black ATX Mid Tower Case 9X5.25 1X3.5 4X3.5INT 230MM Blue LED Fans & Window No PSU ($89.99 - $20 IR - $ 20 MIR = $49.99)

Power Supply:
OCZ FATAL1TY 550W ATX12V 20/24PIN Active PFC ATX Modular Power Supply 120MM Fan 80PLUS Black ($79.99 - $20 IR - $25 MIR = $34.99)

Motherboard:
Gigabyte GA-Z68A-D3-B3 Socket 1155 Intel Z68 Chipset Dual-Channel DDR3 2133/1866/1600/1333/1066 MHz 2x PCI-Express GLAN 7.1-CH HD Audio 2x SATA 6.0Gb/s 4x SATA 3.0Gb/s 10xUSB 2.0 2xUSB 3.0 ATX ($89.99 - $10 MIR = $79.99)

CPU (one of):
- Intel Pentium G840 Dual-Core Socket LGA1155, 2.80Ghz, 3MB L3 Cache, 32nm 65W TDP (Retail Boxed) (BX80623G840) ($89.99)
- Intel Core i3-2120 Dual-Core Socket LGA1155, 3.30Ghz, 3MB L3 Cache, 32nm (Retail Boxed) (BX80623I32120) ($139.99)
- Intel Core i5-2300 Quad-Core Socket LGA1155, 2.80Ghz, 6MB L3 Cache, 32nm (Retail Boxed) (BX80623I52300) ($199.99 - $10 IR = $184.99)
- Intel Core i5-2500 Quad-Core Socket LGA1155, 3.30Ghz, 6MB L3 Cache, 32nm (Retail Boxed) (BX80623I52500) ($219.99)
- Intel Core i5 2500K Quad Core Unlocked Processor LGA1155 3.3GHZ Sandy Bridge 6MB ($238.98)

Hard Drive:
Western Digital Caviar Blue (WD5000AAKX) 500GB SATA3 6GB/s 7200RPM 16MB Buffer (OEM) ($99.99)

RAM:
-Mushkin Silverline 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1333MHz CL9 DIMMs (996770) ($44.99 - $5 IR = $39.99)

DVD Drive:
Samsung SH-S243D/BEBE 24X Black DVD Writer SATA OEM ($27.99 - $12 IR = $15.99)

Video Card:
Zotac GeForce GTS 250 675MHZ 1GB 2.0GHZ GDDR3 PCI-E DVI VGA HDMI Video Card ($130.98 - $60.99 IR - $30 MIR = $39.99)


Approximate total using cheaper case:
$430.92 (w/ Intel Pentium G840)
$480.92 (w/ Intel i3-2120)
$525.92 (w/ Intel i5-2300)
$560.92 (w/ Intel i5-2500)
$579.91 (w/ Intel i5-2500K)

Approximate total using more expensive case:
$450.92 (w/ Intel Pentium G840)
$500.92 (w/ Intel i3-2120)
$545.92 (w/ Intel i5-2300)
$580.92 (w/ Intel i5-2500)
$599.91 (w/ Intel i5-2500K)
Logic fails because we are lazy.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 13 2011 01:16 GMT
#14489
On November 13 2011 09:28 Isaac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2011 09:00 Shikyo wrote:
14A on the 12V rail.

I'd suggest you to buy a new power supply, the best you can do is MAYBE a Radeon HD 6670 with that PSU and CPU and that's nowhere near as powerful as you'd like it to be(can't run SC2 on ultra for instance). You'd be much better off buying a decent power supply and a card like 6770 or 6790.

Is the Radeon HD 6770 a low profile video card? How can one tell if it is and it isn't. Most sites do not list the form factor.( i think)


Low profile is half the height.
ChefStarCraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada350 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-13 08:35:17
November 13 2011 03:51 GMT
#14490
Why don't we see who is the wizard and play some one on one, I think you'll find me sympathetic to ya when I've won, It seems you've got the brawn to beat me if this was all it takes, But I've got skills to pay the bills and punish each of your mistakes.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
November 13 2011 04:08 GMT
#14491
What badass monitor system are you going to be running with that thing? It better be three 120hz or IPS panels.
Lokrium
Profile Joined March 2011
United States131 Posts
November 13 2011 04:25 GMT
#14492
I'm looking to build a desktop mostly for gaming. I've done a fair bit of research and this is what I've come up with:
+ Show Spoiler +
Phenom II X2 555 Black Edition
Radeon HD 6870
ASUS M4A88T-M LE AM3 AMD 880G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
Hitachi 500GB
Pareema 4GB (2 x 2GB)
Xigmatek ASGARD II
CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 V2

The monitor is 1680.1050.
As far as I can tell, all the parts are compatible with eachother, the PSU provides enough power, etc. However, I'd like someone else with a little more experience (this is my first build) to look it over and make sure.
The CPU will most likely unlock to a quad core, which is why I've chosen it over a Sandybridge, and should also explain the motherboard choice. I'd like to overclock the CPU from maybe 3.2 to 3.6 or 3.8. Is my motherboard/cooling sufficient, or do I need to invest in a CPU fan/better mobo? Is that worth it, if I need to?

tl;dr: will my computer explode when I put it together?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-13 05:05:59
November 13 2011 04:57 GMT
#14493
On November 13 2011 09:51 Strayline wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Hey skyR, and everyone else. I'm upgrading and basically looking for a recommendation for the big ticket items (If I can get advice on mainborad, p/g/cpu I can probably figure out the rest.) I've attempted to do the research myself but I just don't know what parts make the most sense together and what would be overkill... thanks in advance.

------

What is your budget?

$800-$1200 Basically I have the number $1k in my mind but I'd be willing to spend a little more if there was a compelling reason. Conversely if it makes sense to drop down to the 800-900 range for a system that makes more sense I will do that. As I stated above I only really need help with the major components but please leave $2-300 of headroom for cases/ram and drives (etc) if you use this number.

What is your resolution?

2 Monitors up to 1920x1080. These I already have.

What are you using it for?

All types of gaming (and general use).

What is your upgrade cycle?

I generally upgrade when I start getting into performance issues with games that I want to play. Say 2 years.

When do you plan on building it?

ASAP.

Do you plan on overclocking?

Generally I'm not a big believer in this but I do like good cooling systems and "good brand" parts anyway. Warm fuzzies and all.

Do you need an Operating System?

No.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

Yes--either that or one of the 2 monitor cards.

Where are you buying your parts from?

Online

------

Sorry if this is a duplicate request from someone else. A link to a previous post would be great. This is a hard thread to search and I didn't see anything that looks totally applicable to me in the last few pages. Hard to search this stuff

Thanks,

Strayline


Here's an overclockable SLI ready build that totals to $874 excluding mail in rebates and the HDD.

Every graphics card supports two monitors. Most of AMD's current generation of cards supports up to six. It's a bad idea to be gaming at a 3840x1080 resolution since you are going to be playing off center or playing with a bezel in your face. If you want to do Surround or Eyefinity, it's recommended you get a third monitor for 5760x1080 - in which case you may want a dual Radeon HD6970 or GTX 570 setup instead.

Intel Core i5 2500k @ $200
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=57962&promoid=1282

Asrock Z68 Extreme3 @ $125
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271

EVGA GTX 560 Ti -AR @ $230
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=58347&promoid=1282

Crucial M4 64gb @ $109
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=60444&promoid=1282

XFX Core Edition Pro 650 @ $80 ($50 after mail in rebate)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=59616

GSkill 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231422

Coolermaster HAF 912 @ $50
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=55583&promoid=1282

DVD Burner @ $17
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=60344&promoid=1282

Coolermaster Hyper 212+ @ $23
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=41337&promoid=1282


On November 13 2011 13:25 Lokrium wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
I'm looking to build a desktop mostly for gaming. I've done a fair bit of research and this is what I've come up with:
+ Show Spoiler +
Phenom II X2 555 Black Edition
Radeon HD 6870
ASUS M4A88T-M LE AM3 AMD 880G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
Hitachi 500GB
Pareema 4GB (2 x 2GB)
Xigmatek ASGARD II
CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 V2

The monitor is 1680.1050.
As far as I can tell, all the parts are compatible with eachother, the PSU provides enough power, etc. However, I'd like someone else with a little more experience (this is my first build) to look it over and make sure.
The CPU will most likely unlock to a quad core, which is why I've chosen it over a Sandybridge, and should also explain the motherboard choice. I'd like to overclock the CPU from maybe 3.2 to 3.6 or 3.8. Is my motherboard/cooling sufficient, or do I need to invest in a CPU fan/better mobo? Is that worth it, if I need to?

tl;dr: will my computer explode when I put it together?


You'll want an aftermarket heatsink if you are going to be unlocking and overclocking.

The CX430V2 is available for $35 at NCIX: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=60345&&promoid=1282 This power supply only provides one PCIe connector so keep in mind that you'll be required to use a molex to PCIe adapter for your 6870. I would probably just get a 6850 since you aren't even gaming at 1080p: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102908

Seagate Barracuda 500GB is available for $90: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63468

I'm not sure why you want a quad for gaming since even the Pentiums beats a Phenom II X4 in the majority of games. If you need a quad for professional work than it would be in your best interest to invest in an core i5 2300 at the very least.
R2D2C3PO
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada105 Posts
November 13 2011 06:02 GMT
#14494
Does this build make sense (everything fits together and doesn't blow up especially since I'm cheaping out on the motherboard):

AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition
MSI 870-G45 ATX
RAM
HD 6950
XFX 750 PRO750W Core Edition Single Rail ATX (do i need 750W?)
Bitfenix Shinobi ATX Mid Tower Case

Thanks guys.
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
November 13 2011 06:37 GMT
#14495
Nope. It doesn't make sense. Two main reasons.

1)At that budget, you can get an Intel processor which will be better in every application than the AMD phenom.

2)No, you definitely don't need that much wattage from your PSU.

You should fill out the OP questionnaire, being as detailed as possibly about what you want your computer to be able to do, and let the people on this forum better at this stuff than I am do their magic.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
R2D2C3PO
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada105 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-13 07:42:21
November 13 2011 07:36 GMT
#14496
On November 13 2011 15:37 MisterFred wrote:
Nope. It doesn't make sense. Two main reasons.

1)At that budget, you can get an Intel processor which will be better in every application than the AMD phenom.

2)No, you definitely don't need that much wattage from your PSU.

You should fill out the OP questionnaire, being as detailed as possibly about what you want your computer to be able to do, and let the people on this forum better at this stuff than I am do their magic.


O my bad, didn't read the first post in detail.

1. Budget: $700ish without monitor/mouse/keyboard/OS
2. Resolution: 1920x1080
3. Use: Gaming, hoping to play Battlefield 3 (high settings) and BW...
4. Upgrade cycle: when new games come out that this computer can't run
5. Do I plan on building it? Yep, this would be my first time, switching over from Xbox/BW
6. Overclocking? Nope, just trying to keep it simple.
7. OS? got a copy of Win7
8. 2nd GPU? Nope, just trying to keep it simple.
9. Where I'm buying from? NCIX from Canada

sorry for being a noob, don't really know a lot about computers. Anyways the reason I chose the AMD because it is $100 cheaper than the Intel i5 2500k, not really interested in running Battlefield 3 on ultra, high is good enough for me. And from youtube videos of people playing Battlefield with AMD x4 955/HD 6950, it looks really smooth on high. How much wattage do I need? Also, the thing I'm most worried about it the motherboard, as it is so much cheaper than the others.

Here is the stuff I was looking at:
+ Show Spoiler +
AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition
MSI 870-G45 ATX
RAM
HD 6950
XFX 750 PRO750W Core Edition Single Rail ATX (do i need 750W?)
Bitfenix Shinobi ATX Mid Tower Case
ChefStarCraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada350 Posts
November 13 2011 08:26 GMT
#14497
Hello everyone, I'm happy to share my current upgraded build with you. I'm very happy with it and can't wait to put it together when it comes.

CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-2700K 3.50 GHz 8MB Intel Smart Cache LGA1155
HDD: 120GB Corsair Force GT Series SATA-III 6.0Gb/s SSD - 555MB/s Read & 515MB/s x2
MB_SRT: 60GB Corsair Force Series SATA III 6.0Gb/s SSD - 550MB/s Read & 510MB/s
MEMORY: 16GB (4GBx4) DDR3/1600MHz Corsair Vengeance
MOTHERBOARD: [CrossFireX/SLI] Asus Maximus IV Gene-Z Intel Z68 mATX Mainboard w/ ROG Connect, Lucid Virtu and Intel SRT & 7.1 SupremeFX Audio, GbLAN, HDMI, USB 3.0, SATA-III RAID, 2 Gen2 PCIe X16 & 1 PCIe X4
POWERSUPPLY: 1,200 Watts - Corsair Professional Series
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580 3GB 16X PCIe Video Card x2
OVERCLOCK: 30% or more
FANS: Thermaltake Frio OCK CPU Cooler, 120 mm LED fan x2, 200 mm fan x1, 140 mm fan x1,
Maximum Enermax 120MM, Vigor iSURF II Hard Disk Drive Cooling System
CAS: CoolerMaster Storm Trooper Full Tower Gaming Case
Why don't we see who is the wizard and play some one on one, I think you'll find me sympathetic to ya when I've won, It seems you've got the brawn to beat me if this was all it takes, But I've got skills to pay the bills and punish each of your mistakes.
Strayline
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States330 Posts
November 13 2011 09:02 GMT
#14498
On November 13 2011 13:57 skyR wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

On November 13 2011 09:51 Strayline wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Hey skyR, and everyone else. I'm upgrading and basically looking for a recommendation for the big ticket items (If I can get advice on mainborad, p/g/cpu I can probably figure out the rest.) I've attempted to do the research myself but I just don't know what parts make the most sense together and what would be overkill... thanks in advance.

------

What is your budget?

$800-$1200 Basically I have the number $1k in my mind but I'd be willing to spend a little more if there was a compelling reason. Conversely if it makes sense to drop down to the 800-900 range for a system that makes more sense I will do that. As I stated above I only really need help with the major components but please leave $2-300 of headroom for cases/ram and drives (etc) if you use this number.

What is your resolution?

2 Monitors up to 1920x1080. These I already have.

What are you using it for?

All types of gaming (and general use).

What is your upgrade cycle?

I generally upgrade when I start getting into performance issues with games that I want to play. Say 2 years.

When do you plan on building it?

ASAP.

Do you plan on overclocking?

Generally I'm not a big believer in this but I do like good cooling systems and "good brand" parts anyway. Warm fuzzies and all.

Do you need an Operating System?

No.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

Yes--either that or one of the 2 monitor cards.

Where are you buying your parts from?

Online

------

Sorry if this is a duplicate request from someone else. A link to a previous post would be great. This is a hard thread to search and I didn't see anything that looks totally applicable to me in the last few pages. Hard to search this stuff

Thanks,

Strayline


Here's an overclockable SLI ready build that totals to $874 excluding mail in rebates and the HDD.

Every graphics card supports two monitors. Most of AMD's current generation of cards supports up to six. It's a bad idea to be gaming at a 3840x1080 resolution since you are going to be playing off center or playing with a bezel in your face. If you want to do Surround or Eyefinity, it's recommended you get a third monitor for 5760x1080 - in which case you may want a dual Radeon HD6970 or GTX 570 setup instead.

Intel Core i5 2500k @ $200
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=57962&promoid=1282

Asrock Z68 Extreme3 @ $125
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271

EVGA GTX 560 Ti -AR @ $230
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=58347&promoid=1282

Crucial M4 64gb @ $109
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=60444&promoid=1282

XFX Core Edition Pro 650 @ $80 ($50 after mail in rebate)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=59616

GSkill 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231422

Coolermaster HAF 912 @ $50
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=55583&promoid=1282

DVD Burner @ $17
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=60344&promoid=1282

Coolermaster Hyper 212+ @ $23
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=41337&promoid=1282


On November 13 2011 13:25 Lokrium wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
I'm looking to build a desktop mostly for gaming. I've done a fair bit of research and this is what I've come up with:
+ Show Spoiler +
Phenom II X2 555 Black Edition
Radeon HD 6870
ASUS M4A88T-M LE AM3 AMD 880G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
Hitachi 500GB
Pareema 4GB (2 x 2GB)
Xigmatek ASGARD II
CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 V2

The monitor is 1680.1050.
As far as I can tell, all the parts are compatible with eachother, the PSU provides enough power, etc. However, I'd like someone else with a little more experience (this is my first build) to look it over and make sure.
The CPU will most likely unlock to a quad core, which is why I've chosen it over a Sandybridge, and should also explain the motherboard choice. I'd like to overclock the CPU from maybe 3.2 to 3.6 or 3.8. Is my motherboard/cooling sufficient, or do I need to invest in a CPU fan/better mobo? Is that worth it, if I need to?

tl;dr: will my computer explode when I put it together?


You'll want an aftermarket heatsink if you are going to be unlocking and overclocking.

The CX430V2 is available for $35 at NCIX: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=60345&&promoid=1282 This power supply only provides one PCIe connector so keep in mind that you'll be required to use a molex to PCIe adapter for your 6870. I would probably just get a 6850 since you aren't even gaming at 1080p: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102908

Seagate Barracuda 500GB is available for $90: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63468

I'm not sure why you want a quad for gaming since even the Pentiums beats a Phenom II X4 in the majority of games. If you need a quad for professional work than it would be in your best interest to invest in an core i5 2300 at the very least.


Thanks for your reply! Do you have a strong opinion on that motherboard you recommended (
Asrock Z68 Extreme3) compared with:

MSI P67A-G43:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130583

Thanks,

Strayline


Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-13 09:23:14
November 13 2011 09:21 GMT
#14499
On November 13 2011 17:26 ChefStarCraft wrote:
Hello everyone, I'm happy to share my current upgraded build with you. I'm very happy with it and can't wait to put it together when it comes.

CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-2700K 3.50 GHz 8MB Intel Smart Cache LGA1155
HDD: 120GB Corsair Force GT Series SATA-III 6.0Gb/s SSD - 555MB/s Read & 515MB/s x2
MB_SRT: 60GB Corsair Force Series SATA III 6.0Gb/s SSD - 550MB/s Read & 510MB/s
MEMORY: 16GB (4GBx4) DDR3/1600MHz Corsair Vengeance
MOTHERBOARD: [CrossFireX/SLI] Asus Maximus IV Gene-Z Intel Z68 mATX Mainboard w/ ROG Connect, Lucid Virtu and Intel SRT & 7.1 SupremeFX Audio, GbLAN, HDMI, USB 3.0, SATA-III RAID, 2 Gen2 PCIe X16 & 1 PCIe X4
POWERSUPPLY: 1,200 Watts - Corsair Professional Series
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580 3GB 16X PCIe Video Card x2
OVERCLOCK: 30% or more
FANS: Thermaltake Frio OCK CPU Cooler, 120 mm LED fan x2, 200 mm fan x1, 140 mm fan x1,
Maximum Enermax 120MM, Vigor iSURF II Hard Disk Drive Cooling System
CAS: CoolerMaster Storm Trooper Full Tower Gaming Case


Sorry to be a downer but if the computer isn't running at least three monitors, you just wasted $1,000 on a computer that will be obsolete in less than 3 months.

On November 13 2011 18:02 Strayline wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2011 13:57 skyR wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

On November 13 2011 09:51 Strayline wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Hey skyR, and everyone else. I'm upgrading and basically looking for a recommendation for the big ticket items (If I can get advice on mainborad, p/g/cpu I can probably figure out the rest.) I've attempted to do the research myself but I just don't know what parts make the most sense together and what would be overkill... thanks in advance.

------

What is your budget?

$800-$1200 Basically I have the number $1k in my mind but I'd be willing to spend a little more if there was a compelling reason. Conversely if it makes sense to drop down to the 800-900 range for a system that makes more sense I will do that. As I stated above I only really need help with the major components but please leave $2-300 of headroom for cases/ram and drives (etc) if you use this number.

What is your resolution?

2 Monitors up to 1920x1080. These I already have.

What are you using it for?

All types of gaming (and general use).

What is your upgrade cycle?

I generally upgrade when I start getting into performance issues with games that I want to play. Say 2 years.

When do you plan on building it?

ASAP.

Do you plan on overclocking?

Generally I'm not a big believer in this but I do like good cooling systems and "good brand" parts anyway. Warm fuzzies and all.

Do you need an Operating System?

No.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

Yes--either that or one of the 2 monitor cards.

Where are you buying your parts from?

Online

------

Sorry if this is a duplicate request from someone else. A link to a previous post would be great. This is a hard thread to search and I didn't see anything that looks totally applicable to me in the last few pages. Hard to search this stuff

Thanks,

Strayline


Here's an overclockable SLI ready build that totals to $874 excluding mail in rebates and the HDD.

Every graphics card supports two monitors. Most of AMD's current generation of cards supports up to six. It's a bad idea to be gaming at a 3840x1080 resolution since you are going to be playing off center or playing with a bezel in your face. If you want to do Surround or Eyefinity, it's recommended you get a third monitor for 5760x1080 - in which case you may want a dual Radeon HD6970 or GTX 570 setup instead.

Intel Core i5 2500k @ $200
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=57962&promoid=1282

Asrock Z68 Extreme3 @ $125
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271

EVGA GTX 560 Ti -AR @ $230
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=58347&promoid=1282

Crucial M4 64gb @ $109
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=60444&promoid=1282

XFX Core Edition Pro 650 @ $80 ($50 after mail in rebate)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=59616

GSkill 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231422

Coolermaster HAF 912 @ $50
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=55583&promoid=1282

DVD Burner @ $17
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=60344&promoid=1282

Coolermaster Hyper 212+ @ $23
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=41337&promoid=1282


On November 13 2011 13:25 Lokrium wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
I'm looking to build a desktop mostly for gaming. I've done a fair bit of research and this is what I've come up with:
+ Show Spoiler +
Phenom II X2 555 Black Edition
Radeon HD 6870
ASUS M4A88T-M LE AM3 AMD 880G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
Hitachi 500GB
Pareema 4GB (2 x 2GB)
Xigmatek ASGARD II
CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 V2

The monitor is 1680.1050.
As far as I can tell, all the parts are compatible with eachother, the PSU provides enough power, etc. However, I'd like someone else with a little more experience (this is my first build) to look it over and make sure.
The CPU will most likely unlock to a quad core, which is why I've chosen it over a Sandybridge, and should also explain the motherboard choice. I'd like to overclock the CPU from maybe 3.2 to 3.6 or 3.8. Is my motherboard/cooling sufficient, or do I need to invest in a CPU fan/better mobo? Is that worth it, if I need to?

tl;dr: will my computer explode when I put it together?


You'll want an aftermarket heatsink if you are going to be unlocking and overclocking.

The CX430V2 is available for $35 at NCIX: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=60345&&promoid=1282 This power supply only provides one PCIe connector so keep in mind that you'll be required to use a molex to PCIe adapter for your 6870. I would probably just get a 6850 since you aren't even gaming at 1080p: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102908

Seagate Barracuda 500GB is available for $90: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63468

I'm not sure why you want a quad for gaming since even the Pentiums beats a Phenom II X4 in the majority of games. If you need a quad for professional work than it would be in your best interest to invest in an core i5 2300 at the very least.


Thanks for your reply! Do you have a strong opinion on that motherboard you recommended (
Asrock Z68 Extreme3) compared with:

MSI P67A-G43:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130583

Thanks,

Strayline


Depends what you want more: the Asrock has the Z68 chipset but the MSI seems to have more ports. They're both pretty barebones when it comes to features anyhow so there isn't much that can go wrong with either board. Perhaps PCIe 3.0 slot on the Asrock motherboard might be a benefit for SLI/Crossfire? I dunno.
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
November 13 2011 15:22 GMT
#14500
How important is it to have a quad core processor over a dual core in a gaming laptop? I wouldn't be planning to do anything more intensive than games like Skyrim or SC2, and FPS games aren't really my type. I also wouldn't be doing any Video encoding or any of that stuff. So could I get away with a computer with a dual core such as an i5 2410m?

Mainly: Where specifically does a quad core i7 CPU really shine over the i5 mobile CPUs?
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