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kunstderfugue
Mexico375 Posts
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/skyrim-performance-benchmark,3074-9.html <-skyrim isn't either | ||
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Alryk
United States2718 Posts
Does this mean that I could have additional applications open in these games without taking too badly of a performance hit? | ||
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kunstderfugue
Mexico375 Posts
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imJukin
United States47 Posts
1500ish (-100 already order NZXT Phantom White Case from newegg.com) an additional 500 for peripherals so about 1900 What is your resolution? Typically I run the resolution where I get the best performance but I haven't had an up to date gaming rig in about 10 years. With the new computer I aim for best resolution for performance on a 22-24 inch Flatscreen Monitor (Open for suggestions on what monitor to purchase) What are you using it for? #1 Gaming, #2 Streaming, #3 Photoshop, #4 Possibly 3dsmax, #5 Porn, #6 other various software. What is your upgrade cycle? I'd like this computer to be sufficient and perform very well for up to 2 1/2 years to 3 years, but now that I have steady income the upgrade cycle may be shorter. When do you plan on building it? As soon as possible. Do you plan on overclocking? I do plan on overclocking an i5-2500k, but not to an extreme extent, I will purchase an aftermodel heatsink/fan for it. Do you need an Operating System? I have XP readily available, and will probably purchase windows 7 with a friends student discount. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? I think 1 GPU will do it for me, heard good things about the 6970. Where are you buying your parts from? Mostly newegg.com and open to suggestions on other reliable sites with good deals (Tigerdirect?). Parts already ordered/available NZXT Phantom White Case(ordered) 750W Corsair PSU (In current computer, will transfer to new build) I'm also looking to upgrade most/all peripherals that includes: Monitor Keyboard Mouse Sound System Parts interested in: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231476 I'd like to order this twice for 16GB of memory Total I know nothing about SSD's but would like to purchase one for this build (So advice with that is appreciated) Everyone says bang for buck is i5-2500k CPU sandy bridge (Correct me if i'm wrong) I need a compatible motherboard for these units and also advice on which HDD to get during the tsunami crisis, I do have a 7200 500gb Western Digital available, but I will order a new HDD for the new computer. Advice on a soundcard as well, I've had nothing but trouble with creative sound cards in the past, but willing to give them another shot if the product has enough positive reviews. | ||
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LMPeaches
United States157 Posts
What cables should I be using? Is there a way I can benefit from the mini HDMI, or should I just use a DVI connection? | ||
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Pseudoku
Canada1279 Posts
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB 3.5IN 16MB Cache SATA3 Internal Hard Disk Drive HDD ($99.98) Seagate 1000G Barracuda 7200.12 SATA III 6Gb/s 32M Buffer Hard Drive ($124.99) Western Digital Caviar Green WD15EARS 1.5TB 3.5-in SATA2 3GB/s 64MB Cache Internal Harddrive OEM (WD15EARS) ($119.99) Is this monitor good for the price? Acer S243HL bmii, 24" Widescreen 1080p HD White LED Monitor Technology - Black, 1920x1080, 2ms GTG, 8,000,000:1(ACM), VGA, Two HDMI - Retail ($229.99 - $55 IR = $174.99) | ||
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
The other two are 7200 RPM (generally, the speed for an HDD used as a main drive), and you simply have to ask yourself if the extyra money is worth the extra gigabytes. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On November 14 2011 01:02 LMPeaches wrote:+ Show Spoiler + I have this monitor (1680x1050) and this gpu (mini HDMI and DVI connectors) What cables should I be using? Is there a way I can benefit from the mini HDMI, or should I just use a DVI connection It is not necessary to post a useless question in two threads. People do read both threads, believe it or not. | ||
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Kevan
Sweden2303 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On November 14 2011 02:57 Kevan wrote: If I get a pc with:Intel Core i5, 2500K CPU, 4GB RAM and Nvidia GeForce GTX 560 GPU then will it be able to play most if not all games on high settings? At 1080p, yes. | ||
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LMPeaches
United States157 Posts
On November 14 2011 02:41 skyR wrote: It is not necessary to post a useless question in two threads. People do read both threads, believe it or not. Believe it or not, I also posted this question on r/buildapc. Thanks for the answer in the other thread. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On November 14 2011 02:57 Kevan wrote: If I get a pc with:Intel Core i5, 2500K CPU, 4GB RAM and Nvidia GeForce GTX 560 GPU then will it be able to play most if not all games on high settings? Yes, though going to have problems with crysis, metro 2033, BF3 and some future games. I personally would go for a notch better graphics card if you're going to invest that much into a processor but if it's a prebuilt that's totally fine. | ||
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On November 14 2011 00:58 imJukin wrote:+ Show Spoiler + What is your budget? 1500ish (-100 already order NZXT Phantom White Case from newegg.com) an additional 500 for peripherals so about 1900 What is your resolution? Typically I run the resolution where I get the best performance but I haven't had an up to date gaming rig in about 10 years. With the new computer I aim for best resolution for performance on a 22-24 inch Flatscreen Monitor (Open for suggestions on what monitor to purchase) What are you using it for? #1 Gaming, #2 Streaming, #3 Photoshop, #4 Possibly 3dsmax, #5 Porn, #6 other various software. What is your upgrade cycle? I'd like this computer to be sufficient and perform very well for up to 2 1/2 years to 3 years, but now that I have steady income the upgrade cycle may be shorter. When do you plan on building it? As soon as possible. Do you plan on overclocking? I do plan on overclocking an i5-2500k, but not to an extreme extent, I will purchase an aftermodel heatsink/fan for it. Do you need an Operating System? I have XP readily available, and will probably purchase windows 7 with a friends student discount. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? I think 1 GPU will do it for me, heard good things about the 6970. Where are you buying your parts from? Mostly newegg.com and open to suggestions on other reliable sites with good deals (Tigerdirect?). Parts already ordered/available NZXT Phantom White Case(ordered) 750W Corsair PSU (In current computer, will transfer to new build) I'm also looking to upgrade most/all peripherals that includes: Monitor Keyboard Mouse Sound System Parts interested in: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231476 I'd like to order this twice for 16GB of memory Total I know nothing about SSD's but would like to purchase one for this build (So advice with that is appreciated) Everyone says bang for buck is i5-2500k CPU sandy bridge (Correct me if i'm wrong) I need a compatible motherboard for these units and also advice on which HDD to get during the tsunami crisis, I do have a 7200 500gb Western Digital available, but I will order a new HDD for the new computer. Advice on a soundcard as well, I've had nothing but trouble with creative sound cards in the past, but willing to give them another shot if the product has enough positive reviews. Sorry but why are you interested in 2133MHz memory when the performance difference you gain from it over a $40 1333MHz kit is negligible: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory/display/sandy-bridge-ddr3.html http://www.anandtech.com/show/4503/sandy-bridge-memory-scaling-choosing-the-best-ddr3 http://techreport.com/articles.x/20377 You can waste money on 2133MHz cas9 but financially speaking and even you mentioned bang for the buck, it's better to get 1600MHz and overclock them yourself to ~1866MHz. If you were to waste money, you wouldn't even look at the core i5 2500k. You would be getting a $300 X79 motherboard and a core i7 3930k for $550 along with that $200 4x4GB 2133MHz memory. You'll want an IPS panel since you're serious about editing. The Dell Ultrasharp U2412M is probably one of the best options atm with a 1920x1200 resolution. If you actually have an older HDD to use as a storage drive, the only reason to purchase an HDD right now with the absurd prices is the fact that you desperately need space or not getting a SSD. Getting a flagship card for a ~1080p resolution isn't necessary unless you play on max settings - in which case a CrossfireX or SLI configuration would be a better idea unless you have plans to do Eyefinity down the road and are going to add another 6970 at that point in time. You have a HX750, TX750, or AX750 which is capable of a multi-GPU configuration so it's probably in your best interest to get a board capable of CrossfireX. This totals to $1001: Intel Core i5 2500k @ $200 http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=57962&promoid=1282 Visiontek Radeon HD6970 @ $340 http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=60079&promoid=1282 Asrock Z68 Extreme3 @ $125 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271 Crucial M4 128gb @ $210 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148442 Corsair Vengeance 2x4gb 1600MHz @ $43 x 2 = $86 + Show Spoiler + If you're purchasing before tomorrow, you can get these GSkill Snipers 1600MHz for $40 with promo code: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231416 DVD Burner @ $17 http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=60344&promoid=1282 Coolermaster Hyper 212+ @ $23 http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=41337&promoid=1282 This would leave you $1000 devoted to peripherals. $350 which would go to a Dell Ultrasharp U2412M, maybe $700 for two. About $200 for both a mouse (~$70) and a mechanical keyboard (~$110). Unless you're fine with a $20 mouse and keyboard than it would be a lot less. And the remaining (which isn't enough unfortunately) goes into speakers, soundcard, and headset. | ||
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R2D2C3PO
Canada105 Posts
On November 13 2011 16:36 R2D2C3PO wrote: O my bad, didn't read the first post in detail. 1. Budget: $700ish without monitor/mouse/keyboard/OS 2. Resolution: 1920x1080 3. Use: Gaming, hoping to play Battlefield 3 (high settings) and BW... 4. Upgrade cycle: when new games come out that this computer can't run 5. Do I plan on building it? Yep, this would be my first time, switching over from Xbox/BW 6. Overclocking? Nope, just trying to keep it simple. 7. OS? got a copy of Win7 8. 2nd GPU? Nope, just trying to keep it simple. 9. Where I'm buying from? NCIX from Canada sorry for being a noob, don't really know a lot about computers. Anyways the reason I chose the AMD because it is $100 cheaper than the Intel i5 2500k, not really interested in running Battlefield 3 on ultra, high is good enough for me. And from youtube videos of people playing Battlefield with AMD x4 955/HD 6950, it looks really smooth on high. How much wattage do I need? Also, the thing I'm most worried about it the motherboard, as it is so much cheaper than the others. Here is the stuff I was looking at: + Show Spoiler + | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
Is there something wrong with this board as I never see it recommended for budget crossfire? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On November 14 2011 03:39 R2D2C3PO wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Can someone look over this real quick? I kind of want to buy it this weekend. On November 13 2011 16:36 R2D2C3PO wrote: O my bad, didn't read the first post in detail. 1. Budget: $700ish without monitor/mouse/keyboard/OS 2. Resolution: 1920x1080 3. Use: Gaming, hoping to play Battlefield 3 (high settings) and BW... 4. Upgrade cycle: when new games come out that this computer can't run 5. Do I plan on building it? Yep, this would be my first time, switching over from Xbox/BW 6. Overclocking? Nope, just trying to keep it simple. 7. OS? got a copy of Win7 8. 2nd GPU? Nope, just trying to keep it simple. 9. Where I'm buying from? NCIX from Canada sorry for being a noob, don't really know a lot about computers. Anyways the reason I chose the AMD because it is $100 cheaper than the Intel i5 2500k, not really interested in running Battlefield 3 on ultra, high is good enough for me. And from youtube videos of people playing Battlefield with AMD x4 955/HD 6950, it looks really smooth on high. How much wattage do I need? Also, the thing I'm most worried about it the motherboard, as it is so much cheaper than the others. Here is the stuff I was looking at: + Show Spoiler + Give me a minute. On November 14 2011 03:40 Shikyo wrote:+ Show Spoiler + http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130612 Is there something wrong with this board as I never see it recommended for budget crossfire? Yes because it's mATX, it isn't advertised having SFC even though every other board from MSI has SFC, and it doesn't have mosfet heatsinks. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On November 14 2011 03:39 R2D2C3PO wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Can someone look over this real quick? I kind of want to buy it this weekend. On November 13 2011 16:36 R2D2C3PO wrote: O my bad, didn't read the first post in detail. 1. Budget: $700ish without monitor/mouse/keyboard/OS 2. Resolution: 1920x1080 3. Use: Gaming, hoping to play Battlefield 3 (high settings) and BW... 4. Upgrade cycle: when new games come out that this computer can't run 5. Do I plan on building it? Yep, this would be my first time, switching over from Xbox/BW 6. Overclocking? Nope, just trying to keep it simple. 7. OS? got a copy of Win7 8. 2nd GPU? Nope, just trying to keep it simple. 9. Where I'm buying from? NCIX from Canada sorry for being a noob, don't really know a lot about computers. Anyways the reason I chose the AMD because it is $100 cheaper than the Intel i5 2500k, not really interested in running Battlefield 3 on ultra, high is good enough for me. And from youtube videos of people playing Battlefield with AMD x4 955/HD 6950, it looks really smooth on high. How much wattage do I need? Also, the thing I'm most worried about it the motherboard, as it is so much cheaper than the others. Here is the stuff I was looking at: + Show Spoiler + Pricematch the Bitfenix Shinobi to $53.25: http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/234538/BitFenix/BFC_SNB_150_KKN1_RP/ Get an Intel Core i5 2400 for $189.99 instead: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57964 , pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12200BD5176 With the above processor, you'll want a H61 or H67 motherboard such as the Gigabyte H67M-D2 for $84.99: http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=59419 If you don't want SATA3 because you have no intention of getting an SSD later down the road on this platform than you can get a H61 motherboard instead which would take $20 off the total. I wouldn't get 1.65v memory, I would get Mushkins instead which are 1333MHz at 1.5v for $39.59: http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=55544 , pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950BD3503 . If you aren't doing a multi-GPU configuration or overclocking. You do not need a 750w power supply. The XFX Core Edition 450 for $53.04 ($33.04 after mail in rebate) is more than adequate: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=63238 , pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950AC3542 If you're not concerned about playing every game on ultra / max settings, I would just get a GTX 560 Ti for $234.15 ($204.15 after mail in rebate): http://ncix.com/products/?sku=58366 , pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11830BD9294 Both the 6950 and GTX 560 Ti offer similar performance. But if you want to remain with the 6950 than you can pricematch the 6950 to $251.26: http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950BD3203 This turns out to be around $655 before mail in rebates. | ||
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imJukin
United States47 Posts
On November 14 2011 03:35 skyR wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On November 14 2011 00:58 imJukin wrote:+ Show Spoiler + What is your budget? 1500ish (-100 already order NZXT Phantom White Case from newegg.com) an additional 500 for peripherals so about 1900 What is your resolution? Typically I run the resolution where I get the best performance but I haven't had an up to date gaming rig in about 10 years. With the new computer I aim for best resolution for performance on a 22-24 inch Flatscreen Monitor (Open for suggestions on what monitor to purchase) What are you using it for? #1 Gaming, #2 Streaming, #3 Photoshop, #4 Possibly 3dsmax, #5 Porn, #6 other various software. What is your upgrade cycle? I'd like this computer to be sufficient and perform very well for up to 2 1/2 years to 3 years, but now that I have steady income the upgrade cycle may be shorter. When do you plan on building it? As soon as possible. Do you plan on overclocking? I do plan on overclocking an i5-2500k, but not to an extreme extent, I will purchase an aftermodel heatsink/fan for it. Do you need an Operating System? I have XP readily available, and will probably purchase windows 7 with a friends student discount. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? I think 1 GPU will do it for me, heard good things about the 6970. Where are you buying your parts from? Mostly newegg.com and open to suggestions on other reliable sites with good deals (Tigerdirect?). Parts already ordered/available NZXT Phantom White Case(ordered) 750W Corsair PSU (In current computer, will transfer to new build) I'm also looking to upgrade most/all peripherals that includes: Monitor Keyboard Mouse Sound System Parts interested in: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231476 I'd like to order this twice for 16GB of memory Total I know nothing about SSD's but would like to purchase one for this build (So advice with that is appreciated) Everyone says bang for buck is i5-2500k CPU sandy bridge (Correct me if i'm wrong) I need a compatible motherboard for these units and also advice on which HDD to get during the tsunami crisis, I do have a 7200 500gb Western Digital available, but I will order a new HDD for the new computer. Advice on a soundcard as well, I've had nothing but trouble with creative sound cards in the past, but willing to give them another shot if the product has enough positive reviews. Sorry but why are you interested in 2133MHz memory when the performance difference you gain from it over a $40 1333MHz kit is negligible: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory/display/sandy-bridge-ddr3.html http://www.anandtech.com/show/4503/sandy-bridge-memory-scaling-choosing-the-best-ddr3 http://techreport.com/articles.x/20377 You can waste money on 2133MHz cas9 but financially speaking and even you mentioned bang for the buck, it's better to get 1600MHz and overclock them yourself to ~1866MHz. If you were to waste money, you wouldn't even look at the core i5 2500k. You would be getting a $300 X79 motherboard and a core i7 3930k for $550 along with that $200 4x4GB 2133MHz memory. You'll want an IPS panel since you're serious about editing. The Dell Ultrasharp U2412M is probably one of the best options atm with a 1920x1200 resolution. If you actually have an older HDD to use as a storage drive, the only reason to purchase an HDD right now with the absurd prices is the fact that you desperately need space or not getting a SSD. Getting a flagship card for a ~1080p resolution isn't necessary unless you play on max settings - in which case a CrossfireX or SLI configuration would be a better idea unless you have plans to do Eyefinity down the road and are going to add another 6970 at that point in time. You have a HX750, TX750, or AX750 which is capable of a multi-GPU configuration so it's probably in your best interest to get a board capable of CrossfireX. This totals to $1001: Intel Core i5 2500k @ $200 http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=57962&promoid=1282 Visiontek Radeon HD6970 @ $340 http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=60079&promoid=1282 Asrock Z68 Extreme3 @ $125 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271 Crucial M4 128gb @ $210 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148442 Corsair Vengeance 2x4gb 1600MHz @ $43 x 2 = $86 + Show Spoiler + If you're purchasing before tomorrow, you can get these GSkill Snipers 1600MHz for $40 with promo code: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231416 DVD Burner @ $17 http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=60344&promoid=1282 Coolermaster Hyper 212+ @ $23 http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=41337&promoid=1282 This would leave you $1000 devoted to peripherals. $350 which would go to a Dell Ultrasharp U2412M, maybe $700 for two. About $200 for both a mouse (~$70) and a mechanical keyboard (~$110). Unless you're fine with a $20 mouse and keyboard than it would be a lot less. And the remaining (which isn't enough unfortunately) goes into speakers, soundcard, and headset. May I PM you for additional discussion about the build? You seem very knowledgeable and I appreciate the advice. | ||
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On November 14 2011 04:05 imJukin wrote: + Show Spoiler + May I PM you for additional discussion about the build? You seem very knowledgeable and I appreciate the advice. He'll probably respond in the forums as well^^. Often better to have the discussion in the forums so you can get multiple opinions. | ||
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