EPTOn November 14 2011 07:18 Rachnar wrote:
Do you WANT to buy from newegg ? NCIX is much better in Canada
Do you WANT to buy from newegg ? NCIX is much better in Canada
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MrEko
Canada37 Posts
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denis29
Canada4 Posts
up to $1300 What is your resolution? Need a monitor as well. What are you using it for? Gaming, d3/WoW What is your upgrade cycle? 3 years When do you plan on building it? within this month Do you plan on overclocking? yes Do you need an Operating System? yes Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? no Where are you buying your parts from? Somewhere that ships to canada, NCIX? | ||
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TT1
Canada10012 Posts
On November 14 2011 07:18 Rachnar wrote: Do you WANT to buy from newegg ? NCIX is much better in Canada ok ty | ||
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On November 14 2011 07:06 TT1 wrote: What is your budget? around 1300-1500$ without monitor/keyboard/headset/mouse/os(basically just the comp), i can go over my budget if needed What is your resolution? 1440x900, i also have a 1920 x 1080 monitor but id rather play on my old monitor What are you using it for? mainly streaming, i want to be able to stream in 1080p without experiencing any lag at all What is your upgrade cycle? ideally 2-3years + When do you plan on building it? right now Do you plan on overclocking? no Do you need an Operating System? no, i already own a win7 pro 64bit Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? i have no idea what this means  , if its recommended then sureWhere are you buying your parts from? newegg.ca, NCIX Parts already ordered/available or interested in none, id also like to head towards the intel CPU's if possible(currently own an AMD build) Conclusion the main thing i want is to be able to stream on 720p-1080p for long periods of time(8-10 hours) without experiencing any lag, ill have a company assemble the parts Slightly odd you care about streaming in 1080p when you're not even playing in 1080p. Also, if you don't plan on overclocking, which would help a lot when streaming in 1080p seamlessly, you're not going to go anywhere near your budget. You'll find people here will generally recommend overclocking to get the best performance possible. NCIX will also put together your rig for you for $50, but I presume the company you have is doing it for free? | ||
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TT1
Canada10012 Posts
On November 14 2011 07:43 FabledIntegral wrote: Slightly odd you care about streaming in 1080p when you're not even playing in 1080p. Also, if you don't plan on overclocking, which would help a lot when streaming in 1080p seamlessly, you're not going to go anywhere near your budget. You'll find people here will generally recommend overclocking to get the best performance possible. NCIX will also put together your rig for you for $50, but I presume the company you have is doing it for free? i want to have the option of streaming in 1080p if i ever do decide to switch monitors and i would overclock my comp if i knew how to T_T and no i was planning to pay the company 75$, having ncix assemble everything would save me alot of hasstle, ty for the info | ||
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Lokrium
United States131 Posts
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Rachnar
France1526 Posts
6870 needs 2*6 and that PSU only has 1*6 pin connector | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
The idea is to be able to move the antennas around to get better reception. Antennas stuck behind a case may have issues. With a USB adapter like that, you could use a USB A Male to A Female extension cord and prop the adapter up or tape it to a wall or something. With that model, the antennas are internal and inside the stick. On November 14 2011 07:05 Gydion wrote: Hi all, I was told to come here for exceptional help with my build that I'm working on and close to ordering (1/2 days). Was wondering if I could get your input; I am transferring my old SATA drive and optical drive over so I won't need those, the main idea is an i5 2500k system with 2 x MSI 6850 Crossfired, here are the links below: Again my other main concern is how thing's will actually fit, if the motherboard will fit the case will the 2 graphics cards fit in crossfire on the motherboard etc. If you could give me some guidance that would be great! http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-368-IN http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-115-MS x 2 http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-117-AN http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-037-ZA http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-299-CS http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HS-001-GD http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-191-MS Thanks again! I strongly recommend not getting Crossfire because of configuration issues, poor support in some games, higher power consumption / heat / noise, microstuttering making average fps deceptively high (compared to perceived smoothness), and so on. That's unless you need like Crossfire HD 6950s for some beastly monitor setup, like at least 2560x1440. All this HD 6xxx and GTX 5xx are going to be outdated in a couple of months anyway...it's a waste to spend so much extra in graphics hardware that's going to be outdated soon unless you need the extra performance now. Better to just save the money and upgrade sooner. I'd go no higher than the Asus DirectCU HD 6950 1GB at £186, unless you're playing at above 1920x1200: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-255-AS The TruePower New 650W is an excellent power supply but overkill for HD 6850s (not to mention a single HD 6950). If you don't need something modular (IMHO probably a waste on lower-wattage units anyway), take the Lepa W450 or OCZ ZS 550W if you want something a little better: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-005-LA http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-055-OC The Lepa is pretty much a Corsair CX V2 internally (not poor at all), unless I'm confusing their models again. You don't need tall heatspreaders on RAM that are just going to interfere with CPU coolers. This RAM kit is much cheaper and should work the same. Don't pay extra for like 1% more performance gain overall and Corsair branding. Everybody just buys the ICs from the same actual manufacturers anyway. http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-023-OK If no multiple graphics cards support needed--well, support better than 16x/4x which is not ideal--I would move down the motherboard to the Gigabyte Z68AP-D3: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-364-GI (even budget boards can overclock just fine generally, so it's up to the CPU you get and how reasonable you want to be with the voltage and cooling: http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/gigabyte_ga_z68ap_d3_review,5.html) Save the extra money for an upgrade at a later date or an SSD now. | ||
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Lokrium
United States131 Posts
On November 14 2011 08:24 Rachnar wrote: You will need a PSU with more connectors or (rather) an adapter. 6870 needs 2*6 and that PSU only has 1*6 pin connector Could you link me to an adapter? I'm not entirely sure what to google for. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On November 14 2011 08:34 Lokrium wrote: Could you link me to an adapter? I'm not entirely sure what to google for. Generally it's two 4-pin molex to 6-pin PCI Express power: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812196870 Most graphics cards come with one of the above. Occasionally it's just a single 4-pin molex to 6-pin PCI Express power, though that's a little less ideal because whenever possible you want more wires and less possibility for something going wrong if a connection goes loose. It's just an electrical safety issue in the fringe case. This Sapphire HD 6870 is cheaper and comes with two of the single adapters: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102948 HD 6870 doesn't need a huge amount of power so I wouldn't worry about it. Check the pictures. You would use the 6-pin from the power supply and an adapter for the other plug into the HD 6870. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On November 14 2011 07:26 denis29 wrote:+ Show Spoiler + What is your budget? up to $1300 What is your resolution? Need a monitor as well. What are you using it for? Gaming, d3/WoW What is your upgrade cycle? 3 years When do you plan on building it? within this month Do you plan on overclocking? yes Do you need an Operating System? yes Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? no Where are you buying your parts from? Somewhere that ships to canada, NCIX? Here's a configuration for $971 before mail in rebates capable of playing games on reasonably high settings at 1080p. I'm not sure if you included the monitor in your budget so I left some space in your budget for the monitor. If the budget doesn't include a monitor than you can get a GTX 560 Ti for around $240 instead of the Radeon HD6850. Sale ends this Wednesday as well. There's no HDD included. Either use an existing HDD / external HDD, purchase an overpriced one (~$100 for 500gb, ~$140 for 1TB), or just deal with 128gb for now. Intel Core i5 2500k @ $215 (pricematch with http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/232639/BX80623I52500K/Intel/ ) http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=57962 MSI P67A-G45 @ $130 ($110 after mail in rebate) (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12980BD2530 ) http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=59094 Gigabyte Radeon HD6850 @ $150 ($130 after mail in rebate) http://ncix.ca/products/?sku=58225&promoid=1282 Mushkin 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $40 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950BD3503 ) http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55544 XFX Core Edition 450 @ $53 ($33 after mail in rebate) (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950AC3542 ) http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=63238 Crucial M4 128gb @ $190 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11230DR7592 ) http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60445 Coolermaster HAF 912 @ $55 http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55583&promoid=1282 Coolermaster Hyper 212+ @ $24 (pricematch with http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/218427/RR-B10-212P-G1/COOLERMASTER/ ) http://ncix.com/products/?sku=41337 DVD Burner @ $16 http://ncix.com/products/i?sku=45667&promoid=1282 Windows 7 Home Premium x64 @ $98 http://ncix.com/products/?sku=45271&promoid=1282 On November 14 2011 07:56 TT1 wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On November 14 2011 07:43 FabledIntegral wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On November 14 2011 07:06 TT1 wrote: What is your budget? around 1300-1500$ without monitor/keyboard/headset/mouse/os(basically just the comp), i can go over my budget if needed What is your resolution? 1440x900, i also have a 1920 x 1080 monitor but id rather play on my old monitor What are you using it for? mainly streaming, i want to be able to stream in 1080p without experiencing any lag at all What is your upgrade cycle? ideally 2-3years + When do you plan on building it? right now Do you plan on overclocking? no Do you need an Operating System? no, i already own a win7 pro 64bit Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? i have no idea what this means , if its recommended then sureWhere are you buying your parts from? newegg.ca, NCIX Parts already ordered/available or interested in none, id also like to head towards the intel CPU's if possible(currently own an AMD build) Conclusion the main thing i want is to be able to stream on 720p-1080p for long periods of time(8-10 hours) without experiencing any lag, ill have a company assemble the parts Slightly odd you care about streaming in 1080p when you're not even playing in 1080p. Also, if you don't plan on overclocking, which would help a lot when streaming in 1080p seamlessly, you're not going to go anywhere near your budget. You'll find people here will generally recommend overclocking to get the best performance possible. NCIX will also put together your rig for you for $50, but I presume the company you have is doing it for free? i want to have the option of streaming in 1080p if i ever do decide to switch monitors and i would overclock my comp if i knew how to T_T and no i was planning to pay the company 75$, having ncix assemble everything would save me alot of hasstle, ty for the info You probably want to use the above build (remove the operating system) and pay NCIX to assemble for $50: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=7842 You can probably put in a request at NCIX to have them overclock it for you. If you're sure you don't want to overclock (bad idea if you plan on streaming at 1080p) than you can get these components instead and remove the Coolermaster Hyper 212+: Core i5 2400 @ $190 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12200BD5176 ) http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57964 Gigabyte H67M-D2 @ $85 http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59419 | ||
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beefhamburger
United States3962 Posts
Reason I'm so picky/paranoid/worried about this is because when I chose the parts for my 6 year old desktop with a friend a long time ago, I decided to get an AGP mobo right when PCI-E was getting introduced but still not widespread yet. Bad choice since I was kinda screwed in not being able to upgrade anything at all after a few years once everything moved onto to PCI-E. I want to avoid, or at least minimize, any of that happening again. | ||
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R2D2C3PO
Canada105 Posts
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TT1
Canada10012 Posts
On November 14 2011 09:26 skyR wrote: Here's a configuration for $971 before mail in rebates capable of playing games on reasonably high settings at 1080p. I'm not sure if you included the monitor in your budget so I left some space in your budget for the monitor. If the budget doesn't include a monitor than you can get a GTX 560 Ti for around $240 instead of the Radeon HD6850. Sale ends this Wednesday as well. There's no HDD included. Either use an existing HDD / external HDD, purchase an overpriced one (~$100 for 500gb, ~$140 for 1TB), or just deal with 128gb for now. Intel Core i5 2500k @ $215 (pricematch with http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/232639/BX80623I52500K/Intel/ ) http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=57962 MSI P67A-G45 @ $130 ($110 after mail in rebate) (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12980BD2530 ) http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=59094 Gigabyte Radeon HD6850 @ $150 ($130 after mail in rebate) http://ncix.ca/products/?sku=58225&promoid=1282 Mushkin 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $40 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950BD3503 ) http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55544 XFX Core Edition 450 @ $53 ($33 after mail in rebate) (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950AC3542 ) http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=63238 Crucial M4 128gb @ $190 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11230DR7592 ) http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60445 Coolermaster HAF 912 @ $55 http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55583&promoid=1282 Coolermaster Hyper 212+ @ $24 (pricematch with http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/218427/RR-B10-212P-G1/COOLERMASTER/ ) http://ncix.com/products/?sku=41337 DVD Burner @ $16 http://ncix.com/products/i?sku=45667&promoid=1282 Windows 7 Home Premium x64 @ $98 http://ncix.com/products/?sku=45271&promoid=1282 You probably want to use the above build (remove the operating system) and pay NCIX to assemble for $50: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=7842 You can probably put in a request at NCIX to have them overclock it for you. If you're sure you don't want to overclock (bad idea if you plan on streaming at 1080p) than you can get these components instead and remove the Coolermaster Hyper 212+: Core i5 2400 @ $190 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12200BD5176 ) http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57964 Gigabyte H67M-D2 @ $85 http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59419 ty skyr, also apart from my OS what should i be installing on the SSD instead of my HDD? sorry im a complete pc newb tt edit: should i get this HDD? http://ncix.com/products/?sku=58746&vpn=ST31000524AS&manufacture=Seagate | ||
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On November 14 2011 10:23 TT1 wrote: ty skyr, also apart from my OS what should i be installing on the SSD instead of my HDD? sorry im a complete pc newb tt edit: should i get this HDD? http://ncix.com/products/?sku=58746&vpn=ST31000524AS&manufacture=Seagate Whatever programs you use the most. All it does is decrease the load times. OS is important clearly to decrease your boot time. Starcraft 2 would be a must for you^^. Another good one is the internet browser you use most... basically just programs you open the most. The bigger your SSD, the more liberal you can be with how much stuff you throw on it. That drive is fine, but I'd shop around for a cheaper price. They're so crazy expensive right now.... a few months ago that drive would have been $55 or so. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On November 14 2011 10:23 TT1 wrote: ty skyr, also apart from my OS what should i be installing on the SSD instead of my HDD? sorry im a complete pc newb tt edit: should i get this HDD? http://ncix.com/products/?sku=58746&vpn=ST31000524AS&manufacture=Seagate If it's in any way possible, I'd suggest you to only get the SSD and try to not download anything unnecessary. After the HDD prices settle down again, you can then buy hard drives as necessary. | ||
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Introvert
United States4866 Posts
Specs: OS: MS Windows XP Professional 32-bit SP3 (I do plan on getting Windows 7, however). CPU: AMD Athlon 64 LE-1620 Orleans 90nm Technology RAM: 2.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 399MHz (5-5-5-18) (I can afford to buy more of this, which I think I need to do). Motherboard: ECS GeForce7050M-M (this is the original motherboard, it is at least 4 years old, if I recall correctly.) Graphics: G2016wa1 (1680x1050@60Hz) 512MB GeForce 9600 GT (EVGA) (This monitor and card I bought shortly after I got this computer, so they are fairly old as well.) HD: 488GB Seagate ST3500413AS (SATA) My main question is what MB should I get for this CPU? And does my graphics card need replacing? My budget is approx. $300-$500 (it's complicated). I would go the intel route, but I don't really have the funds to make it worthwhile in my opinion. Upgrade cycle: A long time, unless my income suddenly jumps substantially. I know enough to work my way around computers and get a general sense of things, but I figured that ignoring a place with so many people who know more than I do on the subject would be foolish. Let me know if I missed any information. Thanks! | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
But eh the mobo kind of depends on what you're going to do, if you won't overclock I'd just say get the cheapest compatible mobo with the features(SATA6, USB3) that you want. You're also going to need to buy new DDR3 RAM, it'll be like 20$ for 4gb. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On November 14 2011 10:18 beefhamburger wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Is getting a PCI-E 3.0 mobo good for future proofing my comp for the next 5ish years? I looked up some stuff it could be used for in the future, but no real use for it now. The price premium I pretty neglible for me (~$15) so I wanted your guys' thoughts. Specifically looking at w/o PCI-E 3.0 and with PCI-E 3.0. Reason I'm so picky/paranoid/worried about this is because when I chose the parts for my 6 year old desktop with a friend a long time ago, I decided to get an AGP mobo right when PCI-E was getting introduced but still widespread yet. Bad choice since I was kinda screwed in not being able to upgrade anything at all after a few years once everything moved onto to PCI-E. I want to avoid, or at least minimize, any of that happening again. PCI-E revisions are backwards and forward compatible with very few exceptions. I doubt a single GPU is going to exhaust the bandwidth provided by a PCI-E x16 slot anytime soon... | ||
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beefhamburger
United States3962 Posts
On November 14 2011 12:26 skyR wrote: PCI-E revisions are backwards and forward compatible with very few exceptions. I doubt a single GPU is going to exhaust the bandwidth provided by a PCI-E x16 slot anytime soon... The non PCIE3 it is. Thanks! | ||
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