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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
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Illest.
Canada133 Posts
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
Edit: The new Intel release expected very soon is the Sandybridge-E, which I think are the same technology as current-gen Intel processors but with more cores (6 instead of 4?). | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
Certainly there will be a big performance gap between a Phenom II X4 and an Ivy Bridge quad core, making an upgrade not look pointless. Including the clock speed difference, maybe Ivy Bridge will be like 20% faster than Sandy Bridge? Maybe more or less? Who knows. But it's not releasing soon, unless you mean several months. | ||
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Illest.
Canada133 Posts
i guess i'll just wait and see if these upgrades i did to my computer this past summer will do well with the upcoming games releasing. thanks. | ||
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Isaac
United States810 Posts
Power supply: i do not know which one I need, but I guess I need a new one because mine only runs at 220v. I don't know anything about PSUs. Case: my current case the power supply takes up all of the width(?). the dimensions are 15" x 10.7" x 4.2". This is a slim one and I don't want to be limited by the size of the new things im going to get. I'm looking to spend no more then 300$ (is this reasonable?). My current computer things are: CPU: AMD Phenom X4 9650 Motherboard:GeForce 8200 mGPU (..is this right?) RAM: 4GB DDR2 GPU: Nvidia GeForce 8200 Integrated PSU: DELTA DPS-220UB-A Resolution: 1600x900(..is this right?) The Motherboard does have a PCI Express slot(x1) I don't plan on doing anything fancy such as overclocking or Crossfire. I would like to use this computer for as long as possible(if it is worth it?). I've had it for I think almost 3 years but I think its runs well enough but it can't play skyrim and that's why I want to upgrade some parts. edit: I am looking to upgrade possibly in the next month or so. | ||
Womwomwom
5930 Posts
1) The processor is aging but might be salvageable. The original Phenom is around 10-30% slower than the Phenom II clock for clock...which is not good for games that need a decent CPU. 2) That power supply looks like one of those SFX PSU and probably isn't ATX spec - the efficiency, noise, and ability to dissipate heat will likely be terrible compared to a modern ATX power supply. If the PSU is a STX PSU, then the case then shouldn't be compatible with ATX power supplies. 3) The GPU probably can't run any modern games properly. Since the case, power supply, processor, and GPU is obsolete, you're pretty much required to buy a whole new computer anyway. Despite what Shikyo says, you can't just buy a new GPU and power supply because the power supply probably won't even fit in your desktop. The most that can probably be salvageable is the hard drive (is it IDE or SATA?) and the DVD/CD-ROM drive. | ||
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GhostOwl
766 Posts
Im trying to build a budget computer Processor AMD A6-3650 Video Card AFOX Radeon HD 6850-1GB Ram Corsair 8 GB DDR3-1333 240 Pin PC3-10600 Western Digital Caviar Blue 500 GB 400W Power Supply Gigabyte GA-A55M-DS2 Antec 300 Case Is everything compatible? How does it look? | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
For most any computer, you want a socket 1155 motherboard (H61, H67, P67, or Z68 chipset) with a socket 1155 processor (Intel Sandy Bridge): e.g. Celeron or Pentium Gxxx, Core i3 / i5 / i7 - 2xxx (four digits, first is a 2). so for you, probably a Core i3-2xxx. For reference, the processor is more or less equivalent to a slow-clocked Athlon II X4 (which sucks; plus it's cheaper to just get an Athlon II X4 anyway) with a slow-clocked integrated Radeon HD 5550 onboard, just manufactured in 32nm. But you're not using the integrated graphics, so why pay for it? What's the brand and model of the 400W power supply? The claimed wattage means next to nothing regarding the actual performance and internals. | ||
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Womwomwom
5930 Posts
1) A good 400W PSU can run that system but you never listed what PSU you want to buy. For all I know, it could be a bargain bin $20 PSU. 2) I'm not man enough to trust AFOX. The aftermarket support will likely be atrocious. 3) If you are getting a discrete video card, why are you getting a A6-3650? A i3-2100 + Asrock H61 motherboard will run circles around the AMD solution, performance-wise, for around the same price. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On November 14 2011 15:30 Isaac wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Hello: A few days ago I asked about getting a new graphics card. I got some nice responses and I think the best idea is that I upgrade my current power supply so that a new graphics card will be able to run. The lovely Shikyo suggested I get a 6770 or 6790, aswell as getting a PSU to use it. These ones look good, and they fit the budget I have in mind. I'm not looking for a super insane card, but if its worth it I'd rather spend an extra 30$ while I keep my computer for a few more years. Power supply: i do not know which one I need, but I guess I need a new one because mine only runs at 220v. I don't know anything about PSUs. Case: my current case the power supply takes up all of the width(?). the dimensions are 15" x 10.7" x 4.2". This is a slim one and I don't want to be limited by the size of the new things im going to get. I'm looking to spend no more then 300$ (is this reasonable?). My current computer things are: CPU: AMD Phenom X4 9650 Motherboard:GeForce 8200 mGPU (..is this right?) RAM: 4GB DDR2 GPU: Nvidia GeForce 8200 Integrated PSU: DELTA DPS-220UB-A Resolution: 1600x900(..is this right?) The Motherboard does have a PCI Express slot(x1) I don't plan on doing anything fancy such as overclocking or Crossfire. I would like to use this computer for as long as possible(if it is worth it?). I've had it for I think almost 3 years but I think its runs well enough but it can't play skyrim and that's why I want to upgrade some parts. edit: I am looking to upgrade possibly in the next month or so. Upgrading a non-ATX configuration is sort of stupid. Judging by your case dimensions, you're looking at some 300w TFX power supply (which are shit and overpriced in comparison to ATX power supplies) and some low profile graphics card (that's overpriced or shit, or both), the best one being a 6750: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131448 | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On November 14 2011 16:02 Womwomwom wrote: 2) I'm not man enough to trust AFOX. The aftermarket support will likely be atrocious. Yes, I wouldn't trust a fox or AFOX either. | ||
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GhostOwl
766 Posts
Well according to this, the A6-3650 gets better benchmark than a i5-2400s...are you sure its equivalent to Athlon II X4?! I haven't decided on a good PSU yet but I'm living in Japan and it's really hard to get a respectable power supply here...I have to go with local brands unless I want to pay for international shipping (which I don't) | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4476/amd-a83850-review/3 http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/amd-a8-3800_12.html#sect0 http://www.techspot.com/review/418-amd-a8-3850-apu/page10.html | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
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Womwomwom
5930 Posts
On November 14 2011 16:38 GhostOwl wrote: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html Well according to this, the A6-3650 gets better benchmark than a i5-2400s...are you sure its equivalent to Athlon II X4?! I haven't decided on a good PSU yet but I'm living in Japan and it's really hard to get a respectable power supply here...I have to go with local brands unless I want to pay for international shipping (which I don't) Japan must have some Antec or Corsair power supplies around the big cities like Tokyo or Osaka. I know the Japanese aren't huge on big desktop computer but you've got to be able to find a decent PSU around Akihabara or Den-Den. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
I'd get whichever is cheapest of these: Enermax NAXN80+ ENP450AWT (the AWT and 80+ parts are important, as Enermax has like four different NAXN models): http://kakaku.com/item/K0000247435/ Cooler Master GX 450 Bronze RS-450-ACAA-D3 (Bronze part and D3 is important) http://kakaku.com/item/K0000262739/ Silverstone Strider Essential ST40F-ES http://kakaku.com/item/K0000089251/ Though I'm sure somebody else may be rebranding something decent. | ||
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GhostOwl
766 Posts
On November 14 2011 17:26 Myrmidon wrote: Is it all just local brands? I'd get whichever is cheapest of these: Enermax NAXN80+ ENP450AWT (the AWT and 80+ parts are important, as Enermax has like four different NAXN models): http://kakaku.com/item/K0000247435/ Cooler Master GX 450 Bronze RS-450-ACAA-D3 (Bronze part and D3 is important) http://kakaku.com/item/K0000262739/ Silverstone Strider Essential ST40F-ES http://kakaku.com/item/K0000089251/ Though I'm sure somebody else may be rebranding something decent. Okay. You guys have convinced me. I will be buying i5-2300 Processor instead (is that overkill if I just want to play a game like Skyrim?) and that Enermax PSU you just showed me That i3-2100 looks good...but I"m worried because it's not a Quad core.... How does the i3-2100 compare with my old Processor Phenom II X4-955 BE? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Most games (which includes Skyrim) doesn't utilize more than two threads so having a billion core cpu is useless. A core i3 is better than a second generation Phenom. Though many would consider this a sidegrade and not an upgrade. With such a tight budget, I'm not sure why you are considering this. | ||
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GhostOwl
766 Posts
On November 14 2011 21:19 skyR wrote: What the hell? Why were you considering downgrading from a Phenom II to a A6? Most games (which includes Skyrim) doesn't utilize more than two threads so having a billion core cpu is useless. A core i3 is better than a second generation Phenom. Though many would consider this a sidegrade and not an upgrade. With such a tight budget, I'm not sure why you are considering this. My computer (that has the Phenom) is in the States.. I couldn't manage to bring it here and I regret it Anyway, if most games don't utilize more than two threads, then I might as well get the i3....The i3-2120 is better than the i3-2100 right? It seems to be very similarly priced in Kakaku so I'm going to get the 2120...what do you think? | ||
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