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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
November 09 2011 22:46 GMT
#14301
On November 10 2011 07:00 skyR wrote:
Mushkin.


Care to elaborate on why? I know 1333MHz vs 1600MHz generally has a negligible effect, but it doesn't mean 1600 isn't better especially if you try to squeeze out every extra inch. Since he's getting a 2500k chances are his mobo will support it.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 09 2011 22:48 GMT
#14302
On November 10 2011 07:46 FabledIntegral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 07:00 skyR wrote:
Mushkin.


Care to elaborate on why? I know 1333MHz vs 1600MHz generally has a negligible effect, but it doesn't mean 1600 isn't better especially if you try to squeeze out every extra inch. Since he's getting a 2500k chances are his mobo will support it.

Especially as every time people link the 1333 vs 1600 comparison anandtech made that says the difference is neglicible, anandtech reviewer himself in the conclusion says that 1600 offers best benefit for the money <.<

And assuming the kingston ram is 1.5v it definitely is the one you want to choose, it's a better brand as well
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 09 2011 22:53 GMT
#14303
Kingston being a better brand is highly subjective.

Kingston is 1.65v, Mushkin is 1.5v. If you want guaranteed 1600MHz at 1.65v than you're welcome to get Kingston kit.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
November 09 2011 22:55 GMT
#14304
On November 10 2011 07:53 skyR wrote:
Kingston being a better brand is highly subjective.

Kingston is 1.65v, Mushkin is 1.5v. If you want guaranteed 1600MHz at 1.65v than you're welcome to get Kingston kit.


I actually searched for the voltage but couldn't find it on the ncixus site. Did you look it up elsewhere or did you just know?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 09 2011 22:56 GMT
#14305
HyperX is 1.65v
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 09 2011 22:59 GMT
#14306
Yeah it doesn't say, but apparently it's 1.65V so yep rather mushkin in that case.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
November 09 2011 23:05 GMT
#14307
On November 10 2011 07:56 skyR wrote:
HyperX is 1.65v


Mmmmk thx
ChefStarCraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada350 Posts
November 10 2011 00:24 GMT
#14308
Hello, I was hoping I could get some suggestions and opinions on a new computer.

$2000 is what I want to sink into a top of the line gaming computer. I want it to have the newest/best CPU, Graphics cards, duel GPU, and max overclocking available, so I don't have to upgrade for a long time. I don't know a single thing to do when building a computer, so having it assembled before delivery is what I require.

I'm looking for a trusted, and consistent company.
Recommended computer models with links, and opinions would be, oh so very helpful.

Thanks a bunch in advance !,
Why don't we see who is the wizard and play some one on one, I think you'll find me sympathetic to ya when I've won, It seems you've got the brawn to beat me if this was all it takes, But I've got skills to pay the bills and punish each of your mistakes.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 10 2011 00:29 GMT
#14309
If you want the best and newest than wait another week for Intel's core i7 3930k to be released. You can pay NCIX to assemble it. Though I don't know why you would waste money on the best, newest, and most overclockable processor when you are scared of assembling it yourself.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
November 10 2011 00:38 GMT
#14310
On November 10 2011 09:24 ChefStarCraft wrote:
Hello, I was hoping I could get some suggestions and opinions on a new computer.

$2000 is what I want to sink into a top of the line gaming computer. I want it to have the newest/best CPU, Graphics cards, duel GPU, and max overclocking available, so I don't have to upgrade for a long time. I don't know a single thing to do when building a computer, so having it assembled before delivery is what I require.

I'm looking for a trusted, and consistent company.
Recommended computer models with links, and opinions would be, oh so very helpful.

Thanks a bunch in advance !,


Are you sure you really want to do that? Most here would advise against it. In a few years, your $2000 rig will be inferior to a $700 one most likely. The price/performance gain at that price point is atrocious.

Also, prebuilts themselves are atrocious, generally. Alienware is a fairly reputably company, although they overcharge up the ass. But if you go with them, your $2,000 computer could have been prebuilt for $1,200 etc. so realize it's a pretty shitty deal.

Although as SkyR said, the NCIX assembly option for $50 is most likely the best for you. You should probably not go beyond the $1,200 price point imo, as the gains are just so diminishing beyond that you're essentially throwing money in the garbage.

This is also coming from someone who has, at one point, possessed a $2,500 Dell gaming rig.
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-10 00:48:43
November 10 2011 00:38 GMT
#14311
Thanks for explaining why you thought the Mushkin was better skyr. It helps a lot.
Next part!:
560 Ti + lifetime warranty $250 or 560 Ti + 3 yr warranty + Batman AA game $240
Without the game I'd choose the lifetime warranty one for sure. But since I hear the Batman game is pretty good, I wanted an opinion on the likelihood of these cards failing after 3 years and actually needing the lifetime warranty.

Also, for the Coolermaster Haf 912, how many and which, if any, case fans does it come with? Just so I can buy more fans now if I need them.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
November 10 2011 00:40 GMT
#14312
On November 10 2011 09:38 beefhamburger wrote:
Thanks for explaining why you thought the Mushkin was better skyr. It helps a lot.
Next part!:
560 Ti + lifetime warranty $250 or 560 Ti + 3 yr warranty + Batman AA game $240
Without the game I'd choose the lifetime warranty one for sure. But since I hear the Batman game is pretty good, I wanted an opinion on the likelihood of these cards failing after 3 years and actually needing the lifetime warranty.

Also, for the Coolermaster Haf 912, how many and which, if any, case fans does it come with? Just so I can buy more fans now if I need them.


Well what's your upgrade cycle? If your'e going to get a new card in 3-4 years anyways, it's probably not worth it.
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
November 10 2011 00:46 GMT
#14313
On November 10 2011 09:40 FabledIntegral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 09:38 beefhamburger wrote:
Thanks for explaining why you thought the Mushkin was better skyr. It helps a lot.
Next part!:
560 Ti + lifetime warranty $250 or 560 Ti + 3 yr warranty + Batman AA game $240
Without the game I'd choose the lifetime warranty one for sure. But since I hear the Batman game is pretty good, I wanted an opinion on the likelihood of these cards failing after 3 years and actually needing the lifetime warranty.

Also, for the Coolermaster Haf 912, how many and which, if any, case fans does it come with? Just so I can buy more fans now if I need them.


Well what's your upgrade cycle? If your'e going to get a new card in 3-4 years anyways, it's probably not worth it.

Preferably as long as possible. Right now I'm using a 6 yr old computer that uses a 6800GT =P, although I did get a laptop a few years ago. And if possible give this computer to my parents if I build another one down the line in maybe 5-6 years.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 10 2011 00:46 GMT
#14314
On November 10 2011 09:38 beefhamburger wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Thanks for explaining why you thought the Mushkin was better skyr. It helps a lot.
Next part!:
560 Ti + lifetime warranty $250 or 560 Ti + 3 yr warranty + Batman AA game $240
Without the game I'd choose the lifetime warranty one for sure. But since I hear the Batman game is pretty good, I wanted an opinion on the likelihood of these cards failing after 3 years and actually needing the lifetime warranty.

Also, for the Coolermaster Haf 912, how many and which, if any, case fans does it come with? Just so I can buy more fans now if I need them.


Both of those are -KR models which is a three year warranty with the option of paying to extend it to five or ten years.

Only -AR models have lifetime warranty.

The HAF 912 comes with two fans.
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-10 00:57:24
November 10 2011 00:50 GMT
#14315
On November 10 2011 09:46 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 09:38 beefhamburger wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Thanks for explaining why you thought the Mushkin was better skyr. It helps a lot.
Next part!:
560 Ti + lifetime warranty $250 or 560 Ti + 3 yr warranty + Batman AA game $240
Without the game I'd choose the lifetime warranty one for sure. But since I hear the Batman game is pretty good, I wanted an opinion on the likelihood of these cards failing after 3 years and actually needing the lifetime warranty.

Also, for the Coolermaster Haf 912, how many and which, if any, case fans does it come with? Just so I can buy more fans now if I need them.


Both of those are -KR models which is a three year warranty with the option of paying to extend it to five or ten years.

Only -AR models have lifetime warranty.

The HAF 912 comes with two fans.

Woops, fixed the link. 560 Ti + lifetime warranty $250 or 560 Ti + 3 yr warranty + Batman AA game $240
So I should buy an additional 120mm (or is 140mm better?) and 200mm fan for this build?
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
November 10 2011 00:59 GMT
#14316
I would recommend against sinking 2 grand into a computer. We don't even have a release date on the new consoles from microsoft or sony even. So unless you have a fetish for 3 monitor eyefinity and ultra everything, quite pointless.
twitch.tv/medrea
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-10 01:05:37
November 10 2011 01:05 GMT
#14317
On November 10 2011 09:50 beefhamburger wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
On November 10 2011 09:46 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 09:38 beefhamburger wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Thanks for explaining why you thought the Mushkin was better skyr. It helps a lot.
Next part!:
560 Ti + lifetime warranty $250 or 560 Ti + 3 yr warranty + Batman AA game $240
Without the game I'd choose the lifetime warranty one for sure. But since I hear the Batman game is pretty good, I wanted an opinion on the likelihood of these cards failing after 3 years and actually needing the lifetime warranty.

Also, for the Coolermaster Haf 912, how many and which, if any, case fans does it come with? Just so I can buy more fans now if I need them.


Both of those are -KR models which is a three year warranty with the option of paying to extend it to five or ten years.

Only -AR models have lifetime warranty.

The HAF 912 comes with two fans.

Woops, fixed the link. 560 Ti + lifetime warranty $250 or 560 Ti + 3 yr warranty + Batman AA game $240
So I should buy an additional 120mm (or is 140mm better?) and 200mm fan for this build?


Additional fans is not needed for adequate cooling. And if you wanted additional fans, you should buy multiple 120mm fans or a single 200mm fan.

As for lifetime warranty vs three years: The only real benefit of lifetime warranty is well.. being able to use the card forever. This comes in handy if you are going to be playing the same few games for the rest of your life or just want to keep it as a backup. I don't think a DS model is really necessary for an -AR card since if you wanted the most performance, you wouldn't care about a lifetime warranty. The regular -AR is $10 less expensive upfront and more when you factor in the mail in rebate.
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-10 01:19:19
November 10 2011 01:18 GMT
#14318
On November 10 2011 10:05 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 09:50 beefhamburger wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
On November 10 2011 09:46 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 09:38 beefhamburger wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Thanks for explaining why you thought the Mushkin was better skyr. It helps a lot.
Next part!:
560 Ti + lifetime warranty $250 or 560 Ti + 3 yr warranty + Batman AA game $240
Without the game I'd choose the lifetime warranty one for sure. But since I hear the Batman game is pretty good, I wanted an opinion on the likelihood of these cards failing after 3 years and actually needing the lifetime warranty.

Also, for the Coolermaster Haf 912, how many and which, if any, case fans does it come with? Just so I can buy more fans now if I need them.


Both of those are -KR models which is a three year warranty with the option of paying to extend it to five or ten years.

Only -AR models have lifetime warranty.

The HAF 912 comes with two fans.

Woops, fixed the link. 560 Ti + lifetime warranty $250 or 560 Ti + 3 yr warranty + Batman AA game $240
So I should buy an additional 120mm (or is 140mm better?) and 200mm fan for this build?


Additional fans is not needed for adequate cooling. And if you wanted additional fans, you should buy multiple 120mm fans or a single 200mm fan.

As for lifetime warranty vs three years: The only real benefit of lifetime warranty is well.. being able to use the card forever. This comes in handy if you are going to be playing the same few games for the rest of your life or just want to keep it as a backup. I don't think a DS model is really necessary for an -AR card since if you wanted the most performance, you wouldn't care about a lifetime warranty. The regular -AR is $10 less expensive upfront and more when you factor in the mail in rebate.

Ok thanks, the 3 yr warranty it is ^^. I was going to get a 200 mm fan but all of them are obsessed with LED lights on them T_T so I'm just going to buy this cheap pack of 120 mm fans. I don't really know much about fan quality. I hope they are compatible if I get something like an ASRock Z68 mobo.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 10 2011 01:20 GMT
#14319
On November 10 2011 09:24 ChefStarCraft wrote:
Hello, I was hoping I could get some suggestions and opinions on a new computer.

$2000 is what I want to sink into a top of the line gaming computer. I want it to have the newest/best CPU, Graphics cards, duel GPU, and max overclocking available, so I don't have to upgrade for a long time. I don't know a single thing to do when building a computer, so having it assembled before delivery is what I require.

I'm looking for a trusted, and consistent company.
Recommended computer models with links, and opinions would be, oh so very helpful.

Thanks a bunch in advance !,

I got this feeling that as you're so afraid of composing a computer yourself, you're going to make it explode when trying to overclock it.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
DONTPANIC
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States340 Posts
November 10 2011 01:22 GMT
#14320
On November 10 2011 09:24 ChefStarCraft wrote:
Hello, I was hoping I could get some suggestions and opinions on a new computer.

$2000 is what I want to sink into a top of the line gaming computer. I want it to have the newest/best CPU, Graphics cards, duel GPU, and max overclocking available, so I don't have to upgrade for a long time. I don't know a single thing to do when building a computer, so having it assembled before delivery is what I require.

I'm looking for a trusted, and consistent company.
Recommended computer models with links, and opinions would be, oh so very helpful.

Thanks a bunch in advance !,



Don't listen to them! It's NEVER a bad idea to spend as much as you can on a computer. It'll make you so happy. However... the new intel cpus are coming out soon so... if you wait a moment you will get better stuff. 2k is a lot of money. You can easly build a dual 6970 or dual gtx580 rig. That'll be sick. If you need monitors and such your budget for the pc components is more like 1500 (because you should get a sweet monitor or two at least). And if you need an OS it's 1400. Sweet keyboard/mouse? 1200. Headset/speakers? 1150. Which is still good but not tip top. What do you need? If you're going to buy a prebuilt computer you won't get the greatest stuff but you will get all the extras with it.
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