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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
August 24 2011 14:27 GMT
#10161
Yes, it's better (but difference not huge, see below) and it will work, but it costs more and uses more power.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/330?vs=290
MaieVShadowsonG
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom43 Posts
August 24 2011 14:31 GMT
#10162
will i be able to play diablo 3 sc2 with full graphics? and other single player games
Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
August 24 2011 16:18 GMT
#10163
On August 24 2011 16:43 DONTPANIC wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

Okay! I want to upgrade. One of my video cards is wearing out and sometimes crashes and I feel like there are so many great options out there. I would like to play bf3 at max and Diablo 3 at max. here is what I bought many years ago and I would like to just replace what I have to for now with the option to continue in the future.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229038

What do you all think I should do?

(I love this forum)


Uhh, you have dual 4850's, they should be decent - probably they are held back by that CPU in some games, almost surely in SC2.

But crashing should not happen.. have your checked your temps? Download HWMonitor and keep it on. If your GPU temps go over ~90* C under load (heavy gaming, or better yet, 10+ minutes of Furmark) you should consider opening up your case and using compressed air to clean those heatsinks and fans.
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
MaieVShadowsonG
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom43 Posts
August 24 2011 16:21 GMT
#10164
thank you a lot i just ordered my new pc :D cheers
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
August 24 2011 16:37 GMT
#10165
ya dont worry blizzard games dont ask for a lot of raw power, any decent gpu will run blizzard games on ultra (even though d3 isnt out yet, i think we can assume it's like the rest)
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
00Zarathustra
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bolivia419 Posts
August 24 2011 17:52 GMT
#10166
I have a question, I'm buying an i5 2400 or 2500, I want to know which motherboard is better for this cpus the p67, p67, h55, p55. I'm getting just one good GPU and I will use dual monitors. But maybe later I want to get another GPU but maybe not. Also Im getting 4 gb ddr3 RAM How will these motherboards affect my build and my future upgrades?
Zarathustra "You can't spell aNal_Rape without Nal_Ra"
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
August 24 2011 17:54 GMT
#10167
P55 and H55 are incompatible with core i5 2400 and 2500. You want a H61 or H67 motherboard for it. P67 is primarily meant for the core i5 2500k and core i7 2600k.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-24 18:00:38
August 24 2011 17:56 GMT
#10168
On August 25 2011 02:52 00Zarathustra wrote:
I have a question, I'm buying an i5 2400 or 2500, I want to know which motherboard is better for this cpus the p67, p67, h55, p55. I'm getting just one good GPU and I will use dual monitors. But maybe later I want to get another GPU but maybe not. Also Im getting 4 gb ddr3 RAM How will these motherboards affect my build and my future upgrades?


Depends what you want.

If you want the ability to SLI/Crossfire in the future your motherboard will be more expensive - I personally don't recommend it. If you're getting an i5-2400 or i5-2500 (non-K version) then you have a nonoverclockable processor (well, insanely limited OC), so getting a p67 board is most likely overkill. Where are you shopping from?
tacowagon
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2 Posts
August 24 2011 18:10 GMT
#10169
@skyR
Thanks for the help and that makes sense. I will probably be buying later this week. Appreciate the input
potatomash3r
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia417 Posts
August 24 2011 19:06 GMT
#10170
Hey guys, I need some advice on a $600 - $700 (AUD) budget computer excluding software. The site I primarily use for this is pccasegear.com and because I live in Australia the prices are a little higher. So from browsing this thread and some forums I've come up with this build:

CPU:
AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition: $119

HD
Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB HD103SJ: $69

GPU
ASUS Radeon HD 6850 DirectCU V2: $179

RAM
G.Skill F3-10600CL9D-8GBNT (2x4GB) DDR3: $49

Motherboard
ASRock 880GMH-LE/USB3 AM3 Motherboard: $79

PSU
Corsair CX-430 V2 Power Supply: $59

Case
Antec One Hundred Case : $65

DVD drive
ASUS DRW-24B3ST 24X DVDRW Drive: $25

TOTAL= $644

The only items that I'm not sure of is the case and motherboard. This build is pretty low end and its really only for the short term (2 years). Other than general advice on how well the parts fit one another, I want to know if this build is viable to play the very new games (specifically skyrim) on a high setting.

Cheers
Part of being mature is to accept your loss.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
August 24 2011 19:15 GMT
#10171
On August 25 2011 04:06 potatomash3r wrote:
Hey guys, I need some advice on a $600 - $700 (AUD) budget computer excluding software. The site I primarily use for this is pccasegear.com and because I live in Australia the prices are a little higher. So from browsing this thread and some forums I've come up with this build:

CPU:
AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition: $119

HD
Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB HD103SJ: $69

GPU
ASUS Radeon HD 6850 DirectCU V2: $179

RAM
G.Skill F3-10600CL9D-8GBNT (2x4GB) DDR3: $49

Motherboard
ASRock 880GMH-LE/USB3 AM3 Motherboard: $79

PSU
Corsair CX-430 V2 Power Supply: $59

Case
Antec One Hundred Case : $65

DVD drive
ASUS DRW-24B3ST 24X DVDRW Drive: $25

TOTAL= $644

The only items that I'm not sure of is the case and motherboard. This build is pretty low end and its really only for the short term (2 years). Other than general advice on how well the parts fit one another, I want to know if this build is viable to play the very new games (specifically skyrim) on a high setting.

Cheers


Is the reason you chose your processor because you want to keep it budget but be able to stream?
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
August 24 2011 19:30 GMT
#10172
On August 25 2011 04:06 potatomash3r wrote:
Hey guys, I need some advice on a $600 - $700 (AUD) budget computer excluding software. The site I primarily use for this is pccasegear.com and because I live in Australia the prices are a little higher. So from browsing this thread and some forums I've come up with this build:

CPU:
AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition: $119

HD
Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB HD103SJ: $69

GPU
ASUS Radeon HD 6850 DirectCU V2: $179

RAM
G.Skill F3-10600CL9D-8GBNT (2x4GB) DDR3: $49

Motherboard
ASRock 880GMH-LE/USB3 AM3 Motherboard: $79

PSU
Corsair CX-430 V2 Power Supply: $59

Case
Antec One Hundred Case : $65

DVD drive
ASUS DRW-24B3ST 24X DVDRW Drive: $25

TOTAL= $644

The only items that I'm not sure of is the case and motherboard. This build is pretty low end and its really only for the short term (2 years). Other than general advice on how well the parts fit one another, I want to know if this build is viable to play the very new games (specifically skyrim) on a high setting.


You should probably be unsure about your processor as well . For less price you could get an i3-2100 and an Asrock h61m-vs motherboard. I don't know much about cases, but I've seen the BitFrenix Shinobi recommended on the last page or two, and that's a few bucks cheaper than the Antec. *shrug*
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
August 24 2011 20:12 GMT
#10173
On August 25 2011 04:30 MisterFred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2011 04:06 potatomash3r wrote:
Hey guys, I need some advice on a $600 - $700 (AUD) budget computer excluding software. The site I primarily use for this is pccasegear.com and because I live in Australia the prices are a little higher. So from browsing this thread and some forums I've come up with this build:

CPU:
AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition: $119

HD
Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB HD103SJ: $69

GPU
ASUS Radeon HD 6850 DirectCU V2: $179

RAM
G.Skill F3-10600CL9D-8GBNT (2x4GB) DDR3: $49

Motherboard
ASRock 880GMH-LE/USB3 AM3 Motherboard: $79

PSU
Corsair CX-430 V2 Power Supply: $59

Case
Antec One Hundred Case : $65

DVD drive
ASUS DRW-24B3ST 24X DVDRW Drive: $25

TOTAL= $644

The only items that I'm not sure of is the case and motherboard. This build is pretty low end and its really only for the short term (2 years). Other than general advice on how well the parts fit one another, I want to know if this build is viable to play the very new games (specifically skyrim) on a high setting.


You should probably be unsure about your processor as well . For less price you could get an i3-2100 and an Asrock h61m-vs motherboard. I don't know much about cases, but I've seen the BitFrenix Shinobi recommended on the last page or two, and that's a few bucks cheaper than the Antec. *shrug*


Depends what he's using it for, while the i3 would be a better choice if he wants a gaming build, he didn't really specify anything beyond "low end."
Freeheals
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States488 Posts
August 24 2011 20:39 GMT
#10174
Can anyone tell me what direction my cpu cooler should face?
This is my cpu cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186134

and this is my case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147107

I have the 5 default case fans installed, 1 intake on top, 2 intakes in front, 1 fan on side and 1 on back. PSU is on bottom and GPU is located just below the cpu cooler. Right now I have the cpu cooler facing so that the fan on the cpu cooler is facing the intake fan on the top of my case. Now I am finding that the space between my CPU cooler and my graphics card is very hot, I think because the fins that are supposed to disperse heat just disperse it right onto my graphics card underside.. Can anyone help me out? My computer knowledge is pretty limited

Thanks a lot!
http://www.last.fm/user/Rahdek
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-24 20:42:22
August 24 2011 20:41 GMT
#10175
You realize hot air rises so why would you have a top intake fan? Top fans should always be exhaust and the back should be exhaust as well. Front and side fans should be intake. Your CPU heatsink should be mounted that the intake fan takes air from the front and exhausts air out the back.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
August 24 2011 20:45 GMT
#10176
Top fan shouldn't be intake it should be pulling air out of the case,

It's suppose to be
Front intake
side intake
back out
top out

Basically the flow of most of those is take air from the front push it to the back
take air form the bottom push it to the top

The cpu cooler can face so that it blows air out the back or out the top, most people have it blow out the back but sometimes memory restrictions force them to blow it out the top. either one is fine with that case as the cpu wont be blowing hot air into the psu as that's a bottom mounded psu.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-24 20:48:36
August 24 2011 20:48 GMT
#10177
Uhm, most standard setups actually favor CPU cooler exhausting out the back, depending on location of GPU. Better airflow into the cooler usually if you aren't trying to pull air through a PCB.
Freeheals
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States488 Posts
August 24 2011 20:48 GMT
#10178
I don't know why I said top intake -.- it's out and thanks for answering my question. Now i've got to reinstall the cpu cooler = [
http://www.last.fm/user/Rahdek
So no fek
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3001 Posts
August 24 2011 20:52 GMT
#10179
On August 25 2011 04:30 MisterFred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2011 04:06 potatomash3r wrote:
Hey guys, I need some advice on a $600 - $700 (AUD) budget computer excluding software. The site I primarily use for this is pccasegear.com and because I live in Australia the prices are a little higher. So from browsing this thread and some forums I've come up with this build:

CPU:
AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition: $119

HD
Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB HD103SJ: $69

GPU
ASUS Radeon HD 6850 DirectCU V2: $179

RAM
G.Skill F3-10600CL9D-8GBNT (2x4GB) DDR3: $49

Motherboard
ASRock 880GMH-LE/USB3 AM3 Motherboard: $79

PSU
Corsair CX-430 V2 Power Supply: $59

Case
Antec One Hundred Case : $65

DVD drive
ASUS DRW-24B3ST 24X DVDRW Drive: $25

TOTAL= $644

The only items that I'm not sure of is the case and motherboard. This build is pretty low end and its really only for the short term (2 years). Other than general advice on how well the parts fit one another, I want to know if this build is viable to play the very new games (specifically skyrim) on a high setting.


You should probably be unsure about your processor as well . For less price you could get an i3-2100 and an Asrock h61m-vs motherboard. I don't know much about cases, but I've seen the BitFrenix Shinobi recommended on the last page or two, and that's a few bucks cheaper than the Antec. *shrug*


When I was researching cases, I came across HardwareCanucks on Youtube and I really liked their video overviews of quite a few cases on the market now. It just so happens that they did a review of the Bitfenix Shinobi and uploaded it yesterday: http://www.youtube.com/user/HardwareCanucks
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JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-24 20:58:09
August 24 2011 20:57 GMT
#10180
Uhm, I don't trust a video review. Bitfenix Shinobi is kind of shit for cooling performance.

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cases/2011/08/05/bitfenix-shinobi-review/2

If you're paying that much for a case, get some features.

I like hardwarecanucks for some things, but their video case reviews feel more like advertisements.
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