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Edit: Post spoiler'd. Thankfully, Rachnar just out-classed my advice  .
+ Show Spoiler +As far as upgrade-ability, that configuration is better than an AMD configuration, unless AMD's next chips surprise us. It's also more powerful that AMD as-is: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/188?vs=289(the real-world benchmarks you'd actually use are near the bottom) The 1155 socket is the newest board out there, and supposedly will support the next Intel line of processors coming out, so it's the best bet in terms of upgrade. Even now it can handle upgrades to the i5 or i7 processors, which I didn't recommend to stay in budget. That particular motherboard only has 2 RAM slots, but a future upgrade to 8GB should be plenty unless you do RAM-heavy work, more than enough for gaming. The motherboard I recommended does not have USB 3.0, but that's supposed to be cheap to add with just a card, and it's pretty unnecessary for the foreseeable future. It also doesn't have SATA3 (the 6.0gb/s version) that's good for solid state drives (SSD). If you really wanted to prepare for a future expensive upgrades it looks like that store has some with more advanced motherboard options for 20-30 euros more, but in the budget range I wouldn't recommend it unless you know you were suddenly going to have the money for an SSD in the future - or will need huge amounts of ram for specific workstation purposes. Also, I'm still assuming you have a case, DVD-drive, and hard drive you will reuse. As a final caveat, there's no reason not to wait a day and see if someone else here says I'm wrong.
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The build I am looking to do is a flipped upgrade. The HDD and Ram from my old computer will hopefully be used in the new one. I also have a 9800 GT but I am not sure if I would be able to use together with the new card I will be putting in it.
The HDD drive I have is a Hitachi HDS721616PLA380
The ram is 4GB
The processor I have is a Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7300 @ 2.66GHz
My power supply is 230v
I any of it can be kept then ok.
My budget is £650 max.
My resolution is currently 1920 x 1080
I will be using it for gaming and streaming. I would like to be able to play new games like battlefield on at least mid-high settings.
I plan to have a long upgrade cycle. 4-5 years
I plan on building it in the next 4-5 months
I do not plan on overclocking
I do not need an operating system
I do not plan to add a second cpu
I am not sure where exactly I will be buying the components from as I am still investigating which would be cheaper for me.
Thanks in advance and sorry if I missed something out.
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Just one thing more, why says on the gts 450 that it is ddr3 instead of ddr5?
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@TheMooseHeed
Your ram is probably DDR2 so won't be able to use in a new build, but if it is ddr3, then just ignore it in the build and keep it
With a gt9800 you wont be able to play bf3 on even med settings
this is a 500 £ build (with the ram, hdd, and i7 inluded, if you do not need it and do not think you need the i7 for serious streaming, it will be less)
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=44315&agid=1192
8gb ram 32 euros
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=42808&agid=1342
500gb 7200 rpm hdd, just in case you need more space
33 euros
corsair cx430 v2
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=48790&agid=1627
35 euros
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=41505&agid=1004
hd6870
142 euros
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=47362&agid=699
16euros for a dvd burner
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=46914&agid=1603
45 euros
asrock h61 mobo
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=41223&agid=1617
238 euros
i7-2600, you may need it if you want to stream seriously(meaning hd and all), if not a simple 150 euros i5-2400 will be enough
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=41226&agid=1617
For the case, i don't enough to adivse any, and it's for you to decide on it's looks
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I'd go with the Super Flower Amazon 450W instead of the cx430 since it has more connectors and is more effiecient. I'd allso get the U3S3 version of that mobo.
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The usb3 version isn't that usefull, i mean pretty much nobody uses it ... but if he thinks he might, why not doesn't cost a lot more
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Guys i wasn't able to find this on google, so maybe any of you can answer, will an Artic Cooler Freezer 13 block any of the RAM slots if it's installed so the air goes to the back of the case?
edit: forgot to say my mobo is an asus p8p67 evo.
Thanks.
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On August 24 2011 00:11 skyR wrote:
No it won't.
Ok! thanks very much.
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I found a computer around my budget of $800 from an old post of skyR. I have a question though.
Is this computer build still good and I should go ahead buying, or has there been newer / better components I should know about?
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Thanks a lot.
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Hey foks,
I am planning to get a new gaming rig.
Just wanted to run it by you just in case.
My question do you see a bottleneck or would you advise against buying one or more of these parts. Please include some evidence and/or explanation if say so.
It is primarily a gaming rig.I have a triple screen setup so i am running a crapton of programs in the background wile gaming and/or streaming hence the 6core and the 8 gigs.
Dutch link of items
Grafics card - Sapphire RADEON HD 6950 Dirt3 Edition:
Note: can be unlocked to to a 6970 and this type has superior cooling vs other same chipset cards.
Processor - AMD Phenom II X6 1090T / 3.2 GHz::
Note: it is the Black Edition for easy and a better OC expected stable 4 GHz on stock cooling
Motherboard - ASRock 870 Extreme3:
Note: suggested as the best chipset for the Phenom II X6.
Memory - Corsair Vengeance 8 GB 2x4:
Note: dual channel 1600 Mhz kit. should be sufficient wonder about the performance increase to go for memory with better timings and/or clock speed. worth it price/performance wise ??
with Corsair TX650W powersuply.
Thanks in advance for the reply
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On August 23 2011 16:17 So no fek wrote:Eh, what the hell. You guys have been a great help the last couple of days, so I have a fairly general idea of what I want to do, but it wouldn't hurt to get some more feedback. + Show Spoiler [Questions] +What is your budget?
Up to $1000ish. Maybe a little over, but I won't complain if it's under.
What is your resolution?
1680 x 1050
But it's the maximum resolution on my current 4 year old monitor. I'd be more than happy to take some monitor recommendations as well, either included in the budget or outside of it.
What are you using it for?
Gaming mainly, but no encoding or anything along those lines. Don't know if this is really relevant, but I do like tabbing out while gaming and browsing the net and such... and I tend to be terrible at tab management, so it's not unusual for me to have 50-60 Chrome tabs open, with a game and WMP or something.
What is your upgrade cycle?
Probably 2+ years, but I'd probably upgrade key parts, if possible, as time went along before building a new PC completely.
When do you plan on building it?
Probably order all the parts within the next week or two.
Do you plan on overclocking?
I was thinking about it, but for this build I'm fine with keeping costs down and going with the i5-2400.
Do you need an Operating System?
Should be able to get a student copy for $30.
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
Nope.
CrossFire and SLI are powerful solutions that allow higher performance, but in order to utilize them, we have to choose motherboards and PSUs that can support the increased demands that Crossfire and SLI place on your components.
Where are you buying your parts from?
Newegg probably. I can utilize Fry's ads should they have anything good, but generally they're more expensive.
- Case wise I'm leaning towards the Lancool K-58/60. Though if you have a better recommendation, even if it's a bit pricier, I'd consider it. Better as in the important aspects anyway, and not necessarily aesthetics. I'd probably consider using whatever case I get in my next build, unless cases change drastically in the next two years, so I'd definitely like something that will last.
- Before I thought about building a new PC entirely, I upgraded my video card based off the recommendations for my resolution in the OP. I bought an EVGA GTX 460 1GB SE. I just bought it a few months ago, so I'd definitely consider using it until a new line of cards comes out, if you guys think it will do the job. However, having read some comments in this thread the last few days, it's apparently a terrible card... so I'll take recommendations either way.
- A SSD/storage drive is rhttp://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=10078&topic_id=137554ecommended, right? I'd be willing to include that in my budget.
And just out of curiosity, what are the benefit/disadvantages to a modular PSU, other than cabling? My current PSU is a Corsair 620 HX and I know it's modular.
On a completely unrelated note, a house across my street is on fire right now. Or rather, there's a ton of firemen/emergency services putting it out now. Thanks for all your help, guys!
i think you should keep the video card and the power supply, but in the future upgrade the video card
here a overclockeking configure for $673 and you can easy add what monitor you want
also can change the case(maybe the k60 but it the same thing only more expensive), the cooler if you have a preference( for $30 more a noctua) and get a bigger ssd for 100 bucks
i5 2500k
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072 $220
asrock p67
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230 $110
Kingston HyperX 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104266&cm_sp=Cat_Memory-_-Daily_Deal-_-20-104-266 $49
LIAN LI Lancool PC-K58
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112237 $60
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065 $28
SAMSUNG 470 Series MZ-5PA064B/AM 2.5" 64GB SATA II
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147124 $120
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185 $60
Sony Optiarc CD/DVD Burner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118039#top $20
sata cable
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812816062 $6
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Amazing 2 day deal for USA buyers on newegg.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220557&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL082311&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL082311-_-EMC-082311-Index-_-DesktopMemory-_-20220557-L03A
8GB DDR3 1333 CL9 @ $28 AMIR. Only one issue, it's rated for 1.65v, meaning it runs a little toasty for Sandy Bridge. Probably why it's so cheap, it's not like that's a guaranteed instant fried CPU or anything, but if you don't want to take risks, you may not want that kit.
@DarkEnergy: For gaming in general, faster memory doesn't provide much noticeable framerate. It's best seen in minimum FPS, rather than average or max. For SC2 specifically, when I tested it, tighter timings made literally zero difference, although that was 1st gen i7, and I don't know of anyone who's done SC2 specifically with SB testing memory timings.
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If you have the budget you might as well, you can keep it for a future build also for eventually a much more powerful gpu eve, though the gtx560ti is a very good card already
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Another short duration newegg deal:
i5 2500 @ $195, only $5 more than 2400. For people not interested in OCing, it's worth the small clock difference. Promo code: EMCKBHG222
Something like 36 hours left on it.
Win7 Home Premium 64Bit SP1 OEM for $85 w/ code: EMCKBHG52
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On August 24 2011 00:38 Rachnar wrote:
To dark energy, if you want high quality Eye infinity then CX 6950 is the way to go yes, but for the cpu, when you're putting that much money in a good system, why take a bad one ? i mean sandybridge just tears it to shreads performance wise (and right now i'd say maybe wait for bulldozer if you want to do a very good computer ? might be worth it)
Price vs performance my friend price vs performance..
I am a poor gaming student 
As you might know for gaming rigs the most vital part is the video card.
So by saving more then a few bucks on the CPU i can afford my video card.
and if i over clock it i should have more then enough to do everything i need for a wile.
As for the Bulldozer line was not aware of that.
I need a good rig for Battlefield 3 and Dreamhack.
i expect the line will have child bugs and be expensive as hell.
I do not think they will have "good" and affordable CPU's out.
still i might upgrade faster if they do.
Thanks again.
@JingleHell
Thanks for the input.
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bulldozer coming out this month, so as i said for a good performance gaming pc, might be worth waiting
especially if they are competitive with SB, intel will lower it's prices
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