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gruff
Sweden2276 Posts
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Sephyr
Australia665 Posts
 .Okay, so my budget is virtually limitless but I guess you can put the hard cap on $4,000 AUD. I also won't mind paying more than the cap IF the parts are well worth it. My current resolution is 1920x1080. I guess I can also upgrade this too if need be. (Won't affect my budget) I'm using this for gaming/streaming. . I plan to upgrade in the next 2 years also.I should have the money within a month easily, so I'll be putting the computer together in about 6 weeks I guess. With this, I just wanted to quickly ask.. Are there any new computer enhancements coming out? Like a brand new technology etc. If so, I'll delay building this by however long it takes. I don't wanna build it then have some really good product come out and it's too late  Yes, I do plan on overclocking! At the moment, no I don't need a new OS. I also want a second GPU for Crossfire or SLI, whichever is better I guess :s. Um.. I live in Melbourne, Victoria so I'd have no idea where I'd buy my parts from :o Any questions on this please feel free to ask :p Edit: Also I'll be building this computer from scratch so I guess a suitable PC Case (looks cool, cute lights etc! :D) would be helpful. | ||
Womwomwom
5930 Posts
Processor: Intel i5 2500k Motherboard: Asrock P67 Pro3 Memory: Pariot 2x4GB kit SSD: Corsair Force 3 Storage Drive: Western Digital Green 2TB GPU: Radeon 6950 CPU heatsink: Gelid Tranquillo Power Supply: Antec Neo Eco 520C Some justifications: Hyperthreading isn't really worth $100 unless you especially need it. I know streaming can use the extra threads but whether you will actually benefit from an i7 depends entirely on what quality settings you're going to stream at and how often you are going to do so. I picked the HD6950 over the GTX560 Ti because its cheaper. A stock HD6950 will beat a stock GTX560 Ti and while the GTX560 Ti can overclock well, the HD6950 can also overclock so... I picked the Gelid Tranquillo instead of the Hyper 212+ because the $6 difference results in a lot of little improvements. It performs well enough, its shorter so clearance issues aren't so much of a problem, it has a better included fan, and it has a fairly robust mounting system. Yes, a lot of cases with side fans, such as the NZXT Phantom and Antec P193, cannot properly fit full 158mm tower heatsinks so the Gelid Tanquillo is fairly popular for this reason. I haven't included a case but look here and list the ones that suit your tastes. Then we can eliminate the bad choices/weaker entries. This is a "sweet spot" build that will last 2 years - any more money spent on this build and you will see little benefit. I wouldn't recommend Crossfire or SLI...you're welcome to try it but until the new generation of consoles come out, you're likely to be a bit disappointed in its performance. If you turn off anti-aliasing, you shouldn't have too much trouble getting close to maxing 95% of computer games out right now. I know you have a lot of money to spend but be fiscally responsible and don't spend it all on something that you won't see any return from. $2500 can go a long way to doing a lot of things: it can go in the rainy day fund, pay back any debts, buy a sick home theater system, or be invested into some project you want to do like carpentry. I sound like your mum but money is always hard earned and it doesn't grow on trees. | ||
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
http://www.pccasegear.com Intel Core i7 2600K (for streaming) Corsair Graphite 600T Special Edition White Case (Personal choice) Scythe Mugen 2 Cooler Rev B 2 x ASUS GTX 560 Ti DirectCU II Overclocked 1GB Intel 510 120GB SATA III SSD Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB G.Skill Ripjaws X 8GB DDR3 ASUS P8P67 Deluxe Motherboard B3 X Core Edition Pro 650W ~$1900 (aud) I'm sure you could fine better priced items but the layout of that site is horrible. 6950's in crossfire scales fairly well also if you prefer amd. | ||
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Rachnar
France1526 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
On August 22 2011 22:49 Rachnar wrote: at that price he might as well get a gtx 580 .... And some people prefer 560 ti sli over one gtx 580. Have you looked at the benchmarks? Here is one: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_560_Ti_SLI/23.html Don't get me wrong, I prefer single card setups, but if you are chasing numbers it's not a bad setup. | ||
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Rachnar
France1526 Posts
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Womwomwom
5930 Posts
If he doesn't buy another card, doesn't spend more on the motherboard, and doesn't spend more on on the power supply, he's going to save even more money. My build, including a Corsair 600T, ends up being $1257, which is more than $600 cheaper than yours. That's a lot of money to save - that buys a mean speaker/headphone set if you care about audio. There also isn't any point going for SLI unless you're going for SLI GTX580s aka the most powerful system possible. HD6950 not only scales better than GTX560 Ti but has far lower power draw. | ||
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
And yes generally 6950 cf is preferable but the asus is a great card and it has some decent oc potential and a good cooler. I don't agree that you have to go to sli gtx 580 for it to have a point. What would be the point then? And shouldn't it be up to him if he thinks those $600 is worth it? I was only giving him an option. Not everyone is as anal about money. On August 22 2011 23:03 Rachnar wrote: in pure raw power ofc SLI or CX is better then a single card, but not on new games and some games never are good with multi gpu configuration Then I don't see the point in your condecending post. | ||
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Womwomwom
5930 Posts
Obviously if you dangle raw numbers infront of him, he's going to buy the most expensive system possible. He's obviously not an enthusiast and Crossfire/SLI are deep in enthusiast territory with the juggling of drivers, profiles, software and hardware problems, and pretty minimal performance gains for 1080P gaming. The same goes for getting a good Eyefinity/Surround system working. I've not even going to suggest a 2560x1440 monitor either because the only accessible, high-performance, non-grainy IPS panel is the Apple Cinema Display and it works...strangely on Windows to say the least. | ||
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Kinetik_Inferno
United States1431 Posts
On August 22 2011 06:09 Hereticus wrote: What does "decent price" mean to You. I found "smart" price SSD Sata III to be 60 GB this OCZ for example is just under 100$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227728 next in line is 120GB, but thats double the price (190$ actually) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227726 60 GB should be enough for system and a few games. Then get a cheaper Sata III HDD this one is 55$ for 1TB with access time or 4ms http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148697 generally chose the cheapest one of these u can afford: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007603 600003483 600003269&IsNodeId=1&name=1TB and higher&Order=PRICE&Pagesize=100 A couple of things that come to mind: Do I have to worry about Hard Drive port compatibility? Or are they all Standard? Does the port differ from SSDs to HDDs? I'm looking at the OCZ Agility 3 120GB that you linked to. Many of the reviewers on Newegg are reporting that it's incredibly fast, but it's littered with firmware issues and something about BSOD errors popping up. Should I be concerned? Are these problems fixable? Are these problems a minority? If those are directly caused by the degradation issues SSDs have I am not concerned. I will run TRIM and constantly secure delete as instructed to do so by anandtech. The HDDs look like a much simpler science. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
OCZ isn't known for it's reliability. Their SSDs are known to fail >.> If you're concerned about reliability, it's best to get Samsung, Crucial, or Intel. | ||
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Kinetik_Inferno
United States1431 Posts
Also, on the SSD specifications, it says "Interface: Sata II" But on the motherboard it says stuff like "Sata 3GB/s : 4" What does that mean? Is Sata III better than II? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Womwomwom
5930 Posts
High end SSDs will benefits from the speed increase. Mechanical hard disks will not, its just marketing fluff. | ||
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Kinetik_Inferno
United States1431 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
For $125, you should not be getting a H67 motherboard unless you are looking at ITX. | ||
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Kinetik_Inferno
United States1431 Posts
On August 23 2011 02:32 skyR wrote: Where are you doing your research that it's riddled with issues... ? Are you basing this off a measly amount of idiotic etailer (Newegg) reviews ... ? ASUS is a premium brand and EVO is one of their highest-end motherboards, you're paying extra for the ASUS name and not to mention paying extra for one of their high-end EVO boards... For $125, you should not be getting a H67 motherboard unless you are looking at ITX. What is ITX? I'm getting it because it and the H61 are for non-overclockers. I am getting the i5 2500 and do not plan on overclocking. I will, however defer to you unless H67 is unnecessary and an H61 or something else is just as good. On another note, I found a good SSD that will work out. Of 84 reviews on Newegg it's rated 5 stars and on other sites it is considered quite good, too. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147063 | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
You don't have to get a H61 motherboard if you don't want to but there are many H67 motherboards for sub $100... but if you want to pay for a premium product from a premium company than you're welcome to do so. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157233 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130569 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131713 and more... Samsung 470 is one of the most reliable SSDs on the market. It's a 3Gbps SSD so getting a H61 motherboard is adequate. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157236 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157241 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128486 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131716 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121529 | ||
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