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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Anjuu
Profile Joined August 2010
United States57 Posts
March 10 2011 18:27 GMT
#3421
PSU started doing a death rattle last night. Read that I can use some motor oil to lube it up, but that it's demise is inevitable at this point. I've been really impressed with Corsair recently and since the OPs endorsed their PSUs, I quickly did some researched and bought one last night. CMPSU-750HX for $126.99. Definitely think it's probably a bit overkill for what I want my system to be + Show Spoiler +
CPU I5-2500K
Mobo ?
RAM ?
GPU NVIDIA - GeForce GTX 460 1GB GDDR5 PCI Express Graphics Card (Existing)
PSU CORSAIR CMPSU-750HX 750W RT (Just ordered)
Case NZXT LEXA-NP Black/ Silver (Existing)
Sound Card Razer AC-1 (Existing)
SSD (SATA) Intel X25-M 80Gb (Existing)
HDD (SATA) WD20EARS 2TB (Existing)
Extra Fan COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065
Anyway, I know it's probably a bit overkill but I thought with the rebate the price wasn't too bad and I liked the idea of trying out a modular PSU. Any thoughts?
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
March 10 2011 18:38 GMT
#3422
Overpriced and overkill. You would have been better off spending that kind of money on the Seasonic X or Corsair AX series.
Anjuu
Profile Joined August 2010
United States57 Posts
March 10 2011 18:48 GMT
#3423
But wouldn't the AX series be even more overkill and overpriced?
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semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-10 19:05:43
March 10 2011 18:58 GMT
#3424
Anything above 650w is overkill for a single gpu system, you can load as many hdd's and oc crap off 650w and avoid cold boot issues. 750w i assume is for sli? As far as getting an AX it's just saying the HX is an older design with older effectiveness, personally i wouldn't get such a nice psu unless i was going to oc, or have a heaver gpu in the case.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
March 10 2011 19:02 GMT
#3425
On March 11 2011 03:48 Anjuu wrote:
But wouldn't the AX series be even more overkill and overpriced?


You're already paying $142 so paying an extra $20 for 7 years warranty (as opposed to 5), fully modular (as opposed to semi modular), and fanless operation (under 50% load) isn't that big of a deal.
Anjuu
Profile Joined August 2010
United States57 Posts
March 10 2011 19:07 GMT
#3426
@semantics - I want the ability to go dual GPUs but probably won't do this for at least a year or so. I tend to buy things +1 above what I need just in case.

@skyR - I was including the $15 off for the rebate (I'm religious about filling those dumb things out). So would $35 more make all the things you listed worth it?
Zerg kebabs, Zerg creole, Zerg gumbo, pan fried, deep fried, stir fried. There's pineapple Zerg and lemon Zerg, coconut Zerg, pepper Zerg, Zerg soup, Zerg stew, Zerg salad, Zerg and potatoes, Zerg burger, Zerg sandwich... That's, that's about it.
Anjuu
Profile Joined August 2010
United States57 Posts
March 10 2011 19:14 GMT
#3427
Hmmm, just saw this SS-400FL which is definitely in the same price range but my first impression was the wattage seems lower than what I'd want. I know Wattage isn't the end all be all and it's more about amps but couldn't tell you more than that. Also, I think that the gold certification in general means that the 400Watts this unit kicks out will be more reliable and stable than something that was just made to get to the 400 watt stat.
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KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14902 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-10 19:19:26
March 10 2011 19:18 GMT
#3428
I've been helping a friend do a build, and his last component is his mother board.

As far as I can tell, there is no real difference in features (other than one pci-ex16 slot, so no SLI or crossfire for the MSI board) between the 3 entry level p67 boards from MSI, Gigabyte, and ASUS, which means that the MSI board being $20 cheaper is the best option. Can anyone refute that?
As an aside, the rest of his build was an i5-2500k and an EVGA GTX 460. He's not gonna do SLI or anything like that, so two pci-e slots aren't actually necessary

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7325818&CatId=6978
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7303310&CatId=6978
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7343083&CatId=6978
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
March 10 2011 19:18 GMT
#3429
The HX series is also gold certified but Corsair labeled it as Silver.

You said you had SLI in mind in the future so 400W isn't going to cut it.

Whether its worth it or not is totally up to the individual but personally I wouldn't spend over $100 on anything other than a Seasonic X or Corsair AX series.
Toobz
Profile Joined May 2010
United States88 Posts
March 10 2011 20:03 GMT
#3430
On March 11 2011 04:18 KOFgokuon wrote:
I've been helping a friend do a build, and his last component is his mother board.

As far as I can tell, there is no real difference in features (other than one pci-ex16 slot, so no SLI or crossfire for the MSI board) between the 3 entry level p67 boards from MSI, Gigabyte, and ASUS, which means that the MSI board being $20 cheaper is the best option. Can anyone refute that?
As an aside, the rest of his build was an i5-2500k and an EVGA GTX 460. He's not gonna do SLI or anything like that, so two pci-e slots aren't actually necessary

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7325818&CatId=6978
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7303310&CatId=6978
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7343083&CatId=6978


I have the Gigabyte model that you linked, except it is B2 not B3. It seems to work fine, but it does not have UEFI. I am considering getting another motherboard that has UEFI and SLI capabilities so I can buy another 460 if I need it in the future (Probably cheaper than buying a whole new card). Also some more expensive motherboards like the P67A-UD3P have better cooling which would probably be helpful if you're overclocking the 2500k.
Its pretty alright
holynorth
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States590 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-10 20:23:04
March 10 2011 20:17 GMT
#3431
I am upgrading my graphics card from a 4670 1gig. My resolution is 1920 x 1080.

My computer is
Phenom II X60 (Quad core at 3.3)
8 Gigs of Ram
1 TB HDD

I am looking around 200-250 (without rebate) for a graphics card for gaming only. I want to play games like Crysis II at the best quality possible at my price point.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
March 10 2011 20:20 GMT
#3432
@holynorth

MSI GTX 560 Twin Frozr @ $250
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127565
holynorth
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States590 Posts
March 10 2011 20:24 GMT
#3433
On March 11 2011 05:20 skyR wrote:
@holynorth

MSI GTX 560 Twin Frozr @ $250
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127565


Thanks for the quick response. Is there a competitor at this price point that I should compare or is this the best card at 250?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
March 10 2011 20:36 GMT
#3434
On March 11 2011 05:24 holynorth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2011 05:20 skyR wrote:
@holynorth

MSI GTX 560 Twin Frozr @ $250
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127565


Thanks for the quick response. Is there a competitor at this price point that I should compare or is this the best card at 250?


I think in most people's mind, this is the best card at $250. It's competitor is the 6950 1GB which is similarly priced.
Anjuu
Profile Joined August 2010
United States57 Posts
March 10 2011 20:47 GMT
#3435
@skyR, just wanted to thank you for the advice.
Zerg kebabs, Zerg creole, Zerg gumbo, pan fried, deep fried, stir fried. There's pineapple Zerg and lemon Zerg, coconut Zerg, pepper Zerg, Zerg soup, Zerg stew, Zerg salad, Zerg and potatoes, Zerg burger, Zerg sandwich... That's, that's about it.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-10 23:14:55
March 10 2011 23:14 GMT
#3436
Hey guys, need help with a build, hope you guys can help. General situation is, I'm going off to college in the fall, but apparently around now is when PCs are cheapest, and my parents have agreed to help me buy one now. I was originally just going to go for the most powerful laptop I could find but I kept reading time and time again that a desktop+netbook/notebook combo is the best in terms of computing power.

What is your budget?
Around $1300 USD, I can go maybe 100-200 dollars above that but would prefer not to. Note that I also need a monitor (and a recommendation for one would be great as well, the price should factor into the 1300 dollars) and a cheap netbook/notebook (recommendation on one would be awesome as well; I'd prefer a notebook since i hate how small netbooks are, but my main concern is the power of the desktop; if saving a couple dozen bucks on a cheaper netbook gets me a much better desktop then I'm ok with that. One notebook that I found was http://us.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/model/LX.RD502.039
It's cheap as hell and I really don't need more than that. If you guys find a better deal, I'm all for that too. However, if any of you are in college and think that I could really get by without a laptop, then I'm cool with that too. I'm willing to listen to people more experienced than me lol.

What is your resolution?
I'd prefer it to be 1920 x1080, but again since I need to buy a monitor this could vary based on what monitor you guys recommend
What are you using it for?
Mostly gaming I guess, that would be the intensive thing. Since I'm going to be at college web browsing and word processing, etc., would also be done, but I'm pretty sure that's not a hardware limitation/factor anyway. Undecided major so I don't need anything special in terms of software/computing power.

What is your upgrade cycle?
Pretty long, I want it to last as long as possible without the PC getting hopelessly outdated/unable to play games that come out (so 2-3 years minimum I guess).

When do you plan on building it?
I'm in no rush, if you guys think that by holding out a couple months I'll get a better deal then I'm all for that. I'd prefer it before May but if there's a really compelling reason to wait that's not a solid deadline.

Do you plan on overclocking?
Not really, not computer savvy enough to care or attempt it.

Do you need an Operating System?
Yes.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
Uhh seeing as I'm not upgrading in the future and I doubt i'd be able to do that within my budget lol

Where are you buying your parts from?
There's a Fry's like half an hour away, I also don't mind using the internet. I live in the US.

Thanks for all the help in advance. Oh, and this is also going to be my first attempt at building a PC, if you guys know of a good guide to help me through the process that would be great.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
March 11 2011 00:04 GMT
#3437
@DystopiaX

Windows 7 @ $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116754

Core i5 2300 @ $185
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115076

MSI H67MA-E35 (B3) @ $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130569

XFX Radeon HD6850 @ $180 ($170 with gift card, $150 AMIR)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150505

Antec Truepower New 650W @ $80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371021

Mushkin 2x2GB 1333MHz cas9 @ $42
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226092

Samsung Spinpoint F3 500GB @ $50
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152181

Coolermaster RC330 @ $45
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119115

DVD Drive @ $17
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118031

Motherboard selection is limited right now due to the Cougarpoint recall and that the B3 revision motherboards are just being shipped to retailers. I'd recommend just getting the cheapest H67 motherboard available.

The power supply is overkill but its at a good promotional price right now. if you don't intend to upgrade in the future or keep it for future builds than look into getting a less expensive power supply such as the Corsair CX430 for $40.

The above build comes to $800 before taxes (may not be applicable to you) and shipping.

This is the monitor I'd recommend: Dell UltraSharp U2211H @ $230 ( http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=320-9271 )

With the monitor, the total comes to $1030 before taxes (may not be applicable to you) and shipping. This leaves you with around $250 for a entry notebook.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
March 11 2011 00:18 GMT
#3438
^thanks so much for the help! Would it be wise to wait for the motherboards then? Like I said, I'm really in no rush, so I'd be willing to wait if competition would lower prices or something.

Anyone have links to a guide to help me build this? lol
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
March 11 2011 00:23 GMT
#3439
The above desktop build is good, but I would personally trim the cost so you can get a better notebook for maybe $400. The ones with the AMD E50 are pretty good values at least in terms of hardware specs. Particularly with notebooks, build quality, keyboard, trackpad, display, etc. are important. It's hard to get any work done on a bad notebook.

First off, I'd wait a month or two longer and look for a few deals. LGA 1155 motherboard selection is still a little scarce. Usually newegg does CPU+motherboard combos, so you can save a little more money when those become available again and when there are more motherboard options. For gaming, you can step the CPU down to a i3-2100 ($120).

For the PSU, I'd get something more along the lines of $40-45. As mentioned, the Corsair CX430 is okay, and it's at $40 ($20 AMIR).
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
March 11 2011 00:25 GMT
#3440
Here's one of many guides that will guide you through the process of it:
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