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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-11 00:53:25
March 11 2011 00:26 GMT
#3441
On March 11 2011 09:23 Myrmidon wrote:
The above desktop build is good, but I would personally trim the cost so you can get a better notebook for maybe $400. The ones with the AMD E50 are pretty good values at least in terms of hardware specs. Particularly with notebooks, build quality, keyboard, trackpad, display, etc. are important. It's hard to get any work done on a bad notebook.

First off, I'd wait a month or two longer and look for a few deals. LGA 1155 motherboard selection is still a little scarce. Usually newegg does CPU+motherboard combos, so you can save a little more money when those become available again and when there are more motherboard options. For gaming, you can step the CPU down to a i3-2100 ($120).

For the PSU, I'd get something more along the lines of $40-45. As mentioned, the Corsair CX430 is okay, and it's at $40 ($20 AMIR).

Alright, guess I'll wait, reask in a month or 2.
edit- would also prefer an HDMI port on the monitor. Also don't have speakers, think I'll just get a decent quality pair of headphones instead.
BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
March 11 2011 02:56 GMT
#3442
Hey, so I built that computer you suggested. Works alright so far, but the main issue I'm having now is that it's really noisy. Like, there's the usual PC humming noise, but it's quite loud, and there's also a whirring noise.

Suggestions?
ProgamerAustralian alcohol user follow @iaguzSC2
Perseverance
Profile Joined February 2010
Japan2800 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-11 03:18:48
March 11 2011 03:15 GMT
#3443
Hey, looking to buy a gaming desktop (Pre built) for around $1,000 to $1,250 (Before shipping) It needs to be able to ship to APO and I am (Obviously) looking for the most bang for my buck. What can you guys find?

My current Resolution is 1440 x 900, I need to get the PC off the internet (Since I have an APO Address and don't live near anything American) and I do need an OS.

I also don't plan on overclocking anything since I am a computer retard and wouldn't even know how to do that it I wanted to. I hope this info helps, and thanks for everything guys!
<3 Moonbattles
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
March 11 2011 03:26 GMT
#3444
On March 11 2011 11:56 iaguz wrote:
Hey, so I built that computer you suggested. Works alright so far, but the main issue I'm having now is that it's really noisy. Like, there's the usual PC humming noise, but it's quite loud, and there's also a whirring noise.

Suggestions?


What were the list of parts?

Things that can make a substantial amount of noise include the PSU (its fan), the GPU cooling solution, the CPU cooling solution, hard drives (both seek noise and vibrations), optical drives (same), case fans, etc. If it's whirring, it's probably one or more of the fans.
DillonC
Profile Joined March 2011
Scotland14 Posts
March 11 2011 03:31 GMT
#3445
A good place to buy computer parts in the UK is www.maplins.co.uk

Don't know if it's already been suggested, but it's where I get my parts ^^
Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfils the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things. -Winston Churchill
BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
March 11 2011 03:35 GMT
#3446
On March 04 2011 15:43 Womwomwom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2011 14:44 iaguz wrote:
Hey there TL. My current computer is in it's death throes and requires replacement. It manages to run SC2 on lowest settings at 1280x1024, barely, and then it crashes. Repeatedly! Could do with something newer.

Budget: Up to $1200 AUD max.
Resolution: 1280x1024.
Use: Gaming. Perhaps streaming if I could be fucked doing so.
upgrade cycle: 3+ years.
When do I plan on building it? ASAP!
Overclocking: Probably not.
OS: probably windows 7.

Buying from http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php. Or if there's anywhere else that sells PC gear from Australia, that'd be nice too.

Thanks!

EDIT- oh yeah, and sitting next to me currently is a ASUS ENGTX460 1GB GDDR5 Graphics card. I can use that.


Sample build for you:
Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB HD103SJ - $69.00
G.Skill F3-10600CL9D-4GBNT 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 - $49.00
Intel Core i5 2400 - $209.00
MSI H67MA-E45 Motherboard - $135.00
Antec EarthWatts 430W - $68.00
Antec Mini P180 Black - $134.00

Total: $664.00

With a $1200 budget, I'd actually go buy a better monitor since this computer is good enough for high resolution gaming. Your video card might age faster than the rest of the computer because its not exactly high end right now but that's an easy to replace part.

I don't recommend replacing your video card right now. Its still good and you're not going to see a huge performance boost from any new video cards being released until AMD and nVidia start pumping out 28nm GPUs, which should happen late this year.

If you're looking for a good monitor, a solid option is the Dell U2311H. If you are a RACV (or the other Royal Auto clubs you find in other states) member you get something like 15% off any purchases from Dell and if you find yourself some nice coupons you can get a pretty sick monitor for not much more than the lesser TN monitors from PC Case Gear.



This is my build.
ProgamerAustralian alcohol user follow @iaguzSC2
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
March 11 2011 03:51 GMT
#3447
Its probably the Antec fans, the Tricools can be set at low-medium-high settings (the controls should be at the back?)...on high speed settings, those Tricools sound like ass. If you haven't already done so, try changing them to low.
BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
March 11 2011 03:58 GMT
#3448
Well, that's one thing, but there's also a sort of clicking/whirring noise, and the usual hum sounds like my old one did when it was really straining itself to process something.
ProgamerAustralian alcohol user follow @iaguzSC2
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
March 11 2011 04:09 GMT
#3449
Probably one of your hard disks...only way you'll find out is to try and isolate the noise.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51532 Posts
March 11 2011 04:27 GMT
#3450
Alright, after some fidgeting around, I have no idea what to do for;

- Motherboard
- PSU
- Case

I figure that I want to overclock so I can get the most out of my (possibly) new computer, but I don't want to spend extra money on a 2500k (unless it's actually necessary). Basically I want to get the cheapest case/PSU for the best cooling without frying my comp.

Here is what I have at the moment (all prices AUD from PCCaseGear)
CPU: Intel Core i5 2400 ($209)
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws F3-10666CL9D-4GBRL (2x2GB) DDR3 ($55)
Motherboard: ASUS P8P67 LE ($183)
Graphics Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 460 1GB ($212)
HDD: Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB x 2 ($138)
Case: CoolerMaster Elite 331 ($45)
PSU: CoolerMaster eXtreme Power Plus 500W ($59)

Rounds up to $903. $1000 is the absolute maximum I am willing to spend on the system itself.

I picked the P67 because I read in the OP that the cheaper H67 doesn't allow for overclocking? I need the 2TB of HDD space because I have/download tons of stuff. I will be taking the IDE DVD burner from my old desktop for my CD drive.

I plan to add another 4GB in (for streaming/processing) and a 1080p monitor in the future. I currently am running at 1680x1050.
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zylog
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada943 Posts
March 11 2011 04:49 GMT
#3451
On March 11 2011 13:27 GTR wrote:

I figure that I want to overclock so I can get the most out of my (possibly) new computer, but I don't want to spend extra money on a 2500k (unless it's actually necessary). Basically I want to get the cheapest case/PSU for the best cooling without frying my comp.

Here is what I have at the moment (all prices AUD from PCCaseGear)
CPU: Intel Core i5 2400 ($209)

I picked the P67 because I read in the OP that the cheaper H67 doesn't allow for overclocking? I need the 2TB of HDD space because I have/download tons of stuff. I will be taking the IDE DVD burner from my old desktop for my CD drive.



I'm not an expert, but from what I understand the i5 2400 is fairly limited in terms of overclocking potential.

Check out the following:
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2011/01/03/intel-sandy-bridge-review/5

it seems that the non - K cpus can only move up a certain number of bins, whereas the K (unlocked) cpus can go up a lot more.
BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
March 11 2011 05:13 GMT
#3452
Alright, figured it out! Now all I have to deal with is the fact it hums extremely fucking loudly. Sigh...
ProgamerAustralian alcohol user follow @iaguzSC2
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
March 11 2011 05:36 GMT
#3453
@GTR:

As mentioned above, you need a i5-2500k and a P67 motherboard if you want to overclock more than just the 400 MHz or whatever the limit was. You should probably go with a cheaper H67 motherboard or go for an i5-2500k, a P67 motherboard, and a decent aftermarket CPU cooler. If you're not doing anything to intense with the CPU all the time, I'd just forget about overclocking that system.

Case is okay. None of the PSUs Cooler Master sells are any good other than those with "Silent Pro" in the name. Here's a review of the extreme power plus 500W. Anyway, the Antec Neo Eco 450C should be a decent step up for the same price:
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15_535&products_id=13454

Neo Eco xxxC are Seasonic OEM, pretty much slightly cost-cut Seasonic S12II Bronze units (note that the layout is the same, since it's the same design from the same manufacturer):
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=317192
http://www1.oc.com.tw/forums/forumview.asp?id=5&msgid=303&itype=1
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Seasonic-S12II-Bronze-520-W-Power-Supply-Review/954/2
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51532 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-11 05:57:43
March 11 2011 05:51 GMT
#3454
I'll be streaming/multitasking a whole bunch so I think I'd rather have the overclocking potential.

Anything wrong with the RAM/GFX Card/HDD?

EDIT: It is now;

CPU: Intel Core i5 2500K ($270)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3-B3 ($182)
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws F3-10666CL9D-4GBRL (2x2GB) DDR3 ($55)
GFX: EVGA GeForce GTX 460 1GB 720MHz ($212)
HDD: Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB x 2 ($138)
Case: CoolerMaster Elite 331 ($45)
PSU: Antec Neo Eco 450C ($59)
CPU Fan: CoolerMaster Hyper 101 Universal CPU Cooler ($25)

Adds up to $985. Note I have no idea on what fan to get, so I just got the cheapest one without a dodgy brand name.
Commentator
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
March 11 2011 06:24 GMT
#3455
At those prices, the Hyper 212+ is probably the best for the price. It should be in a different class than any of the cheaper options listed on PCCaseGear.

That said, for just gaming, streaming, and some type of multitasking, I don't think you'll need to overclock an i5-2xxx to get the performance you want. The ability to overclock is arguably not worth the $120 in extra parts costs.

The parts list looks good though and you're still under budget with the i5-2500k setup, so I guess it all works out.
Nephrite
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia202 Posts
March 11 2011 08:19 GMT
#3456
Hey guys, I am looking to upgrade my computer to play Starcraft 2:
What is your budget?
I would like to get it as cheap as possible, I have a monitor/keyboard and mouse, so I would like to keep it under 700 Australian if possible.

What is your resolution?
1280x1024

What are you using it for?
Mostly gaming and surfing the web

What is your upgrade cycle?
Probably every 1 and 1/2 to 2 years

When do you plan on building it?
Within the next two weeks

Do you plan on overclocking?
No

Do you need an Operating System?
Yes, preferably Win 7 but I dont mind really

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No

Where are you buying your parts from?
Australia, so either PC Case Gear or PCDIY

Thanks!
T: MVP, Polt, MKP, Boxer... P: Hero, MC, Inca , VINES... Z: Coca, DRG, Zenio, Leenock
BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
March 11 2011 09:41 GMT
#3457
I foudn out what the problem was. I had improperly installed my ENGTX460 card which had fucked around with... something, so it was really loud.

I've fixed the issue. Sorry for clogging up the thread. Many thanks to the TL.net community for being helpful folks.
ProgamerAustralian alcohol user follow @iaguzSC2
FrozenSolid
Profile Joined November 2010
Finland134 Posts
March 11 2011 10:53 GMT
#3458
@ GTR

If you're looking to play mostly SC:BW/SC2, or if you don't want to run games like Crysis 2 on the highest settings, the GPU is absolutely fine.
Samsung F3s are excellent as far as traditional HDDs go. If you want to stream/encode videos in 1080p, an SSD may be helpful because it can handle a larger data load, but not absolutely essential.
The RAM you selected is perfectly fine as well.

I can also vouch for a Hyper 212+, I've had great results with that cooler.

The parts list looks great.
Sometimes it's better to be good than it is to be lucky and sometimes it's better to be lucky than it is to be good.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
March 11 2011 12:01 GMT
#3459
First, iam not sure if ima build a desktop or buy a laptop but i guess i should ask you guys out just to make sure what option do i have. I am currently blind on how to choose parts that are not CPU, GPU and RAM =__=... have not care about the hardware market for almost 4 years now so im really confused.

What is your budget?
$1200 USD, prefer lower than 1k
What is your resolution?
no monitor so i will need to buy 1

What are you using it for?
gaming, coding, surfing, torrenting in the future, watching movies blah blah.
I know how to use my PC to max potential

What is your upgrade cycle?
2.5 years? may be 3 depend on how much i spent on the machine

When do you plan on building it?
Next week

Do you plan on overclocking?
If everything turn out nice and i could afford to buy a good cooler + i need to learn how to.

Do you need an Operating System?
XP for life. My plan is XP with unbutu but will install win 7 if needed. (please deduct OS cost)

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No, as soon as the PC is good enough for both sc2 and streaming, im cool with it.
I might get in the future but not now.

Where are you buying your parts from?
Canada computers?


Could you guys make a sample list of what i could get out of this budget? Like in name and detail =__=... Also please tell me how should i choose motherboard as well as PSU? Do the case need to be choose to 'fit' the motherboard?

Thanks, <3 you all :D
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Perseverance
Profile Joined February 2010
Japan2800 Posts
March 11 2011 18:23 GMT
#3460
Hey guys, I am looking to upgrade my computer to play Starcraft 2:
What is your budget?
I would like to get the most bang for my buck. Looking to spend $1,000 to $1,250 (Before shipping) on a nice Desktop PC.

What is your resolution?
1440x900

What are you using it for?
Gaming

What is your upgrade cycle?
2-3 years

When do you plan on building it?
As soon as you guys tell me what to get!

Do you plan on overclocking?
No

Do you need an Operating System?
Yes

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No

Where are you buying your parts from?
Online, needs to be able to ship to APO addresses

Other
Just looking for a good (Already built) tower that I can have shipped to an APO address. When I look at them online I have no idea what I am looking for and don't know what's a good deal...Thanks for everything guys!

<3 Moonbattles
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