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So you think this is a better option than the one i had selected earlier? Since im going to be over clocking exhausts and fans are important to me.
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It's not like you need that many for a single-GPU system with a case with that many holes in it.
Also, you can always buy more fans later. Most of these options including that one have multiple fan mount locations.
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@FlilFlam: I'd use the second case I linked. I like that mesh in the front for air, the USB 3.0 port and the second 140mm fan. I used my current case with only one fan for a while and it got pretty warm when the graphics card was running for hours.
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Finished an RMA with Acer. Had a 2.5 year old monitor whose backlight was buzzing/flickering. Completed RMA online, didn't get information to send it in, did the online chat to get the info (their online chat system was having issues when I did this, which was several days apart from the original RMA). Their online system sucks for actually getting information about your RMA, but the status updates themselves are alright. The process itself was pretty painless beyond not getting the information the first time around.
They received it on a Wednesday and it was shipped back and (should have) arrived this Monday, which is ~8 business days apart. FedEx is god awful. Holy hell the ordeal I went through with them.
Looks like Acer replaced basically everything but the monitor stand itself. The screen and casing looks brand new. The picture seemed good (I haven't really been able to test it because I didn't want to unplug one of my current monitors to free up a slot, so I just briefly hooked it up over VGA on my old laptop).
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Hello, I have been using a terrible computer for several years now and have decided that it would be time for an upgrade.
What is your budget?
My budget is around 1000, probably a bit less.
What is your resolution?
1920 by 1080
What are you using it for?
Gaming, probably photoshop, maybe recording/streaming
What is your upgrade cycle?
Probably around 5 or so years, wont upgrade for a while if it can last.
When do you plan on building it?
This coming summer either in early June or early July.
Do you plan on overclocking?
No
Do you need an Operating System?
No
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No
Where are you buying your parts from?
Newegg
Thanks in advance
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Went with the second case and ordered everything. Aside from a potential authentication issue (would result in an insultingly long 15 day hold on the majority of my funds) everything should be processed and shipped out soon.
I wound up being 60$ under budget. Thanks very much to everyone that helped me. I did go with the 7770 in the end and i chose the meshy case with the 140mm fan.
Special thanks to you blue dudes who gave so much information and effort. Once i get the thing built ill take some pics do some tests and post the results!
p.s if anyone has an extra windows 7 key, or information on such matters, please tip me in the right direction as i cannot afford to buy a new windows 7 key outright.
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@Grotchen
Come back when you're buying.
We like linking specific parts to get current deals and better prices, which change almost daily. Also, new processors and motherboards will be available then that aren't available now.
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I love it when people benchmark sc2 properly :D
dat 6fps
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Yeah I looked at the rest of the numbers. Crysis3/BF3, the PDs have been alright (as they were before)...but overall not much to be excited about with these PD 'refresh' chips. The extra 4MB of L3 cache in the 4350 (8 vs 4 in the 4300) does not contribute much to gaming performance, where it was sorely needed. Of course the other question is pricing - would you really save $10 if that meant the jump from a 4350 to a 6350? :p
*This is assuming the wiki listed $122/$132 prices for the 4350 and 6350, respectively, are correct.
IMO, the 4350 should be priced below $100 to be at all compelling.
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What is your budget?
My budge is ~800
What is your resolution?
1366 x 768
What are you using it for?
Starcraft 2 and streaming
What is your upgrade cycle?
Around 3-4 years. As long as it's working, I don't tend to upgrade.
When do you plan on building it?
As soon as I have parts!
Do you plan on overclocking?
No
Do you need an Operating System?
No
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No
Where are you buying your parts from?
Newegg and Fry's
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Building from scratch? It's a pretty low budget
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It's been a while since I've build a PC from scratch, and I made a small typo there, fingers aren't good on the numpad. I have a budget of ~800, which might still be low, editing and fixing original post. Right now I'm just aiming to be able to stream, sadly for viewers (if any) not the highest quality and I don't plan on playing SC2 on anything but low, as at this point I've gotten used to the way that looks.
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Are you able to buy from micro-center? They have far and away the best deals for in-store pickup on processors, and you are going to want to stretch your 800$ as far as it can go.
I assume you have a monitor and peripherals already, is that correct?
Also, are you able to salvage your old computer case or any components like the HDD or an optical drive? Saving a little bit of money on the lesser important components will let you get a better CPU and GPU. If your case has good airflow and is in good shape you can save 70 bucks or so.
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$800 is lots to work with, especially for only a Starcraft II on low @ 1366 x 768 computer
Intel Core i5 3570 ~$210
2x4gb DDR3 1600MHz ~$60
H77 / B75 motherboard ~$70
Corsair CX430 ~$40 or Rosewill Capstone 450 ~$60
whatever case you like (some that come to mind are the NZXT Source 210, Corsair Carbide 200R, Fractal Design Core 1000 / 3000, Coolermaster HAF 912, Bitfenix Merc Alpha) ~$40 to $60
Samsung 840 120gb ~$100 or 500gb HDD ~$60
Radeon HD7770 ~$120 , enough to play at 1080p ultra. You can probably skip the GPU altogether and use the IGP for all I know at your resolution and low settings.
That's roughly ~$650.
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What about those Xeons from the E3-1200 line for LGA1155 socket? I think I've seen those with similar price as an i5 but they seem to be pretty much an i7? Is there a catch with those CPUs?
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Here is the build i just ordered with a slight change in GPU
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I know you said you didn't want to overclock, and this is an overclocking build. I'm not saying you should go with this but at least look into what overclocking can do for you, especially for your budget.
If you don;t want to overclock, I'm confident that you can drop the CPU cooler and downgrade the motherboard to a cheap Z77 series and even without being able to save 40 dollars via in store pickup at micro-center, this should be within your budget.
If you're still looking into the best build 5-6 days from now, come back and i should have some pics and test results posted in this thread!
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On May 10 2013 01:27 Ropid wrote:
What about those Xeons from the E3-1200 line for LGA1155 socket? I think I've seen those with similar price as an i5 but they seem to be pretty much an i7? Is there a catch with those CPUs?
The Xeon 1230(v2) seems to be the desirable one, relatively the same price as a i5 3570k, except the Xeon has 2MB more L3 cache (whatever that is rofl), hyperthreading, and a slower clock speed by .1GHz.
The drawbacks are no on-board graphics and no overclocking ability. I ended up going with an OC'ing i5 3570k, i'm not sure how that will compare to a Xeons performance.
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I am unable to pickup from micro-center, none out here in NV. We do have a Fry's store that I can pickup at if that helps at all.
I do already have a monitor and peripherals.
HDD is salvageable. Case is a raidmax Smilodon and is in good shape.
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If you can save money on the case, Optical drive, OS and HDD then i think you're going to be able get a powerful rig.
Here is a Xeon build (no overclocking but very capable standard settings)
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This option leaves you with 80 dollars or so surplus. You could use this to upgrade to a better GPU and be able to play just about every game out there on high for the next few years. You could spend a little bit more than 80$ here and get yourself a solid state drive, but you would go over your budget by a little bit i think. I really do recommend an SSD though... Als make sure you have someone who knows their stuff thoroughly vet this Xeon build. Xeons are server chips so they have some compatibility issues and not everyone (including me) understands them enough to safely recommend them to people.
Your second option would be to consider overclocking; basically the first build i posted, less the hdd's and case. They would both be more than adequate builds for your needs. Again i don't really know which would perform better for you in the long run, or whether being able to OC has more utility than Hyperthreading in your situation...
I think these are good starting points for you. Things to keep in mind are what level of GPU you are going to get. By compromising on your GPU you can invest in things like an SSD, a new case if you so desired (i would upgrade it only out of necessity), more RAM, or maybe even a better CPU. By getting higher quality parts than you abslutely need right now (like an i7 3770k and a good mobo that can OC), you can get away with a cheap GPU for sc2 now and sometime down the road the GPU would be all you need to upgrade to play any game out there.
In any case while i have been doing a crap ton of research for my own build in the last 2 weeks and am somewhat in the half-know , i am not, repeat: not, an expert. I can assure you that the above build is 'good value', but for your own sake make sure you get multiple opinions (from experienced individuals) before deciding.
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