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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
FlilFlam
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada109 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-07 20:13:38
May 07 2013 19:40 GMT
#29661
appropriate?

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/powercolor-video-card-ax78502gbd5dh

edit:

The final build (i think)


CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Amazon Canada)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($25.30 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($124.99 @ Canada Computers)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($66.99 @ Canada Computers)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.98 @ NCIX)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($154.99 @ NCIX)
Case: NZXT Tempest 210 ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($24.99 @ NCIX)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Canada Computers)
Total: $802.21

I will of course make sure i'm getting the best deal beyond what pc part picker can find for me, and im 60$ or so under budget! hooray!

edit: I ordered the CPU from Amazon, i'm so excited!
vidi, vici, veni
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
May 07 2013 20:13 GMT
#29662
I'd stay with the Bitfenix Merc Beta and use an additional front fan. Not sure what's happening regarding air flow with those very open cases when not using a lot of fans.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-07 20:28:12
May 07 2013 20:26 GMT
#29663
On May 07 2013 23:10 Wabbit wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
On May 07 2013 11:29 skyR wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
PC Partpicker isn't good.

Core it 3570k available at Amazon for $215: http://www.amazon.ca/gp/offer-listing/B008BCHRL4

Hyper 212 available at $24 from BestDirect, not really worth getting the EVO for ~$5 more: http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/218427/COOLERMASTER/RR_B10_212P_G1/

Bitfenix Merc Alpha is better at $30: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=81659&promoid=1304

Probably get a Corsair CX430 or Antec Neo Eco 400C / 450C over a Capstone since you're nearing your budget.

Just a quick search.


You linked the 3570, which is $222. 3570K is 230 @ amazon.ca

And
+ Show Spoiler +
PcPartPicker is great and improving.
Most of the time, it finds the lowest pricing.
It's added some combos for better deals
The estimate power consumption is probably the best I've ever seen from a PSU calculator with reasonable breakdowns by component TDPs
The guy who owns the site is actually active, takes feedback and improves it.
And so many other cool things that actually help people.

But go ahead and keep bashing it instead of taking advantage of it, and scaring newbies away from it because of your blue highlight of authority. This applies to some other regulars around here too. I've praised you before for the good you do, both in public and private, but I strongly disagree with you here.


Yes that was my mistake.

+ Show Spoiler [pc part picker] +
Maybe in the states... but I still see it in the same condition as a year ago or whenever it was introduced.

Combos are only for Newegg, I've never seen it list a Memory Express or NCIX combo.

Why would you factor in shipping to the total when you don't have the algorithm to calculate combined shipping, yet alone shipping for single items that are not from Newegg?

Why would you not include environmental fees and taxes into total if you are going to include shipping and mail in rebates?


If PCPartPicker worked as well as you say it did, why does FlilFlam have a 3570k at $230 instead of $215 from Tigerdirect: http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=2373004&sku=I69-3570K

On May 08 2013 04:40 FlilFlam wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
appropriate?

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/powercolor-video-card-ax78502gbd5dh

edit:

The final build (i think)


CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Amazon Canada)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($25.30 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($124.99 @ Canada Computers)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($66.99 @ Canada Computers)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.98 @ NCIX)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($154.99 @ NCIX)
Case: NZXT Tempest 210 ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($24.99 @ NCIX)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Canada Computers)
Total: $802.21

I will of course make sure i'm getting the best deal beyond what pc part picker can find for me, and im 60$ or so under budget! hooray!

edit: I ordered the CPU from Amazon, i'm so excited!


Hmm if you already ordered the 3570k, you should probably cancel and order from Tigerdirect since they also have free shipping iirc

You can get a burner for less, at $16: http://bestdirect.ca/products/?sku=245882&kw=h-224bb/bebe

Not sure if you're a new Newegg customer or not but if you are or your stance on mail in rebates.

Here's an option: Get the Samsung 840 there which is basically the same price (1 cent more expensive), get 2133MHz memory for $65: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231468 or $60: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233276 , and the Rosewill Capstone for $70: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066 These items along with your case would bring your total to $290, allowing you to use the -$25 coupon, resulting in a total of $265. This route results in a better power supply and memory, and is $2 less expensive than what you currently have before mail in rebate.
FlilFlam
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada109 Posts
May 07 2013 20:31 GMT
#29664
So ive ordered the mobo and CPU from amazon, but now im going to order the case from newegg and they want like 23$ shipping on a 50 or so dollar case!

Can anyone recommend a good case with cheap or free shipping? o
vidi, vici, veni
FlilFlam
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada109 Posts
May 07 2013 20:35 GMT
#29665
im o.k with the mobo and cpu from amazon, i dont know i trust them and i want to keep the variations of websites i order from to a minimum (also free shipping).

Im going to see if i can get the deal you mentioned
vidi, vici, veni
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 07 2013 20:41 GMT
#29666
Canadian retailers pricematch so if you want everything from a few retailers, you can do so.
FlilFlam
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada109 Posts
May 07 2013 20:54 GMT
#29667
So at newegg the price total for those suggested items came to 255$ but it wont let me apply the 25$ off promo code.
vidi, vici, veni
FlilFlam
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada109 Posts
May 07 2013 21:17 GMT
#29668
Can someone confirm that this case is good for my mobo and what not? it's cheaper and has way cheaper shipping

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/raidmax-case-atx238wu
vidi, vici, veni
feanor1
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1899 Posts
May 07 2013 21:18 GMT
#29669
Hey so I am helping a friend build a new PC yet again. When would you guys guess the Haswell will be available for consumers, he is looking to build soon, but wanted a date so he could judge. I know it is going to be unveiled June 3rd, but when would I be able to hold one in my hands. Either a firm date, or a guess from previous experience.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20328 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-07 21:25:36
May 07 2013 21:25 GMT
#29670
June 3'rd is the launch date. Like, tens of thousands of people will be using them in consumer PC's date, unless i have a major misunderstanding somewhere, and i've been waiting to own one for years
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20328 Posts
May 07 2013 21:29 GMT
#29671
On May 08 2013 06:17 FlilFlam wrote:
Can someone confirm that this case is good for my mobo and what not? it's cheaper and has way cheaper shipping

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/raidmax-case-atx238wu


It's out of stock on amazon.ca for $38 and i don't think you'd want to pay 60 for it on newegg, i mean compared to other pricing

Personally i'd go for something with 120mm or 140mm front intake, at least 1 intake and exhaust, preferably coming with 2-4+ fans (more = better) but no idea how that would affect pricing. As long as you have a decent intake and exhaust (usually front bottom intake and back top exhaust) it doesn't really matter for moderate overclocking

I think you can use pretty much any atx case with any atx motherboard (it's a standard) but i only bought one before in my life (and had reccomended to me) so i know very little in that area
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
FlilFlam
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada109 Posts
May 07 2013 21:37 GMT
#29672
On May 08 2013 06:29 Cyro wrote:

It's out of stock on amazon.ca for $38 and i don't think you'd want to pay 60 for it on newegg, i mean compared to other pricing

Personally i'd go for something with 120mm or 140mm front intake, at least 1 intake and exhaust, preferably coming with 2-4+ fans (more = better) but no idea how that would affect pricing. As long as you have a decent intake and exhaust (usually front bottom intake and back top exhaust) it doesn't really matter for moderate overclocking

I think you can use pretty much any atx case with any atx motherboard (it's a standard) but i only bought one before in my life (and had reccomended to me) so i know very little in that area


This is an order im working on for newegg, it gets me a 25 dollar discount and it's all from the same place so i like that. But i really have a hard time interpreting what all the specs about cases actually mean. are there any good cases (exhaust wise) that you can find on newegg or amazon?

(also the case i asked about is 49.99 canadian, not sure if you saw a different price)

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Rosewill CAPSTONE Series CAPSTONE-450 450W Continuous @ 50°C, 80 PLUS GOLD Certified, Single +12V Rail, ATX12V v2.31 / EPS12V v2.92, SLI Ready, CrossFire Ready, Active - PFC Power Supply

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) Desktop Memory Model F3-17000CL11D-8GBXL

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231468

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible with Intel 1366/1155/775 and AMD FM1/FM2/AM3+


http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

RAIDMAX Tornado ATX-238WU Black / Blue SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811156223

SAMSUNG 840 Series MZ-7TD120BW 2.5" 120GB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)


http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147188


The grand total is 357.69$ with tax for all of that, and so all i need to add is a GPU, which i may also order from newegg at the same time... not sure yet but this is looking good
vidi, vici, veni
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20328 Posts
May 07 2013 21:51 GMT
#29673
Intake, exhaust are just fan specs

A case will support X amount of fans of a specific size like 80mm, 120mm, 140mm at front, back, top etc - for airflow reasons, you usually set up fans to pull air into the case from the front and/or bottom, and blow air out of the back/top

I thought that case only had a single 80mm front fan, which was why i mentioned it, but it actually seems to have two 80mm's front and a 120mm back, which is ok.

Better cases would support for example 2x120mm front, 1x120mm back, 2x120mm or 1x200mm top, a side fan etc, not of much use but nice to have (i think the haf 912 had all of those when i checked, but it was more expensive)

It doesn't really matter for moderate overclocking on CPU (case temperatures) on a single graphics card system. If i wanted a high overclock or to run multiple graphics cards in the case, it would be more of a concern, i just mention it because you can usually keep a case for a crazy amount of time (they don't really wear down or break, ever) and it's always nice to have a good case, if for nothing else other than looking sweet =P
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
FlilFlam
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada109 Posts
May 07 2013 21:59 GMT
#29674
Excellent, so im looking for a good GPU on newegg, i found this

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvn65tboc2gdboost

I know it's adequate but as im scanning newegg im not sure what the best deal is...
vidi, vici, veni
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20328 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-07 22:03:52
May 07 2013 22:01 GMT
#29675
The 650ti boost sits with the 7790, between the 7770 and 7850 (i forgot the 7790 even existed earlier.. o.0)

"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
May 07 2013 22:37 GMT
#29676
I'm worried about that case choice. Using 80mm fans sounds like a suspicious decision nowadays. They are either weak or noisy compared to 120mm. It's perhaps a very old design. Older cases had serious deficiencies compared to what's current from what I've seen, things like little room behind the motherboard tray and nothing to dampen vibrations of fans and drives.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
FlilFlam
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada109 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-07 22:47:41
May 07 2013 22:40 GMT
#29677
alright so i have everything queued up on newegg, keep in mind i already ordered teh mobo and CPU

+ Show Spoiler +

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Amazon Canada)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($25.30 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($124.99 @ Canada Computers)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.98 @ NCIX)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 650 Ti Boost 2GB Video Card ($159.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: Raidmax ATX-238WU ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 450W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $825.22


the only thing that gives me pause before ordering is this :

Compatibility Notes

Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard has an onboard USB 3.0 header, but the Raidmax ATX-238WU ATX Mid Tower Case does not have front panel USB 3.0 ports.


I assume this means that i wont be able to use the front usb support that the mobo comes with but everything should still fit right?

Can anyone please reccomend an alternative in the same price range or less? I would like the computer to last so a case unlike how the previous post describes this one would be good ^^.
vidi, vici, veni
StraTkSloth
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
United States181 Posts
May 07 2013 22:45 GMT
#29678
What would be the best resolution to use with the GTX 650 card? not the 650 Ti.
Vega Squadron Player || StarCraft II entusiast
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20328 Posts
May 07 2013 22:50 GMT
#29679
You can use any (sane) resolution with it, 1920x1080 if you want, it's just a lower end card so it's unlikely to perform well at high resolutions and graphics settings in demanding games
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-07 22:59:14
May 07 2013 22:54 GMT
#29680
What about this case: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146075 ?

It's also available with a window or in white. Only one fan pre-installed, but it's also cheaper, so it's fair.

There's this one, which comes with two fans, one of them being 140mm, and one USB 3.0 port in the front panel: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146083

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