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MMO Tomb
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3 Posts
March 21 2010 09:26 GMT
#561

1600x1000
Everything on Ultra/Highest setting (I record with FRAPS and still my FPS is pretty high)

System:
Core 2 Duo 2.6 Processor
GeForce 8800 GTS 512mb
4gb DDR 2 RAM 800mhz
Operating System Windows XP

Hope it helps!
Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
March 21 2010 09:35 GMT
#562
Floydian: You could actually check out the part I recently added to choose your motherboard! The i7 860 doesn't get much respect because the i5 750 is $80 cheaper, and only really lacks hyperthreading. I'm actually going with an i7 860 for my next build! I would actually rather get the i7 930 over the i7 920. Just $7 at newegg for an extra multiplier isn't bad at all IMHO.

LGA 1156 processors do indeed have a better TurboBoost! The i5 750 sports a +1/+1/+4/+4 (1 core/2 core/3 core/4 core) multiplier while the i7 920 only supports +1/+1/+1/+2! The i7 860 sports a +1/+1/+4/+5. Which essentially essentially means by turning TurboBoost on, you get

i5 750: 2.8ghz/2.8ghz/3.16ghz/3.19ghz
i7 860: 2.93ghz/2.93ghz/3.33ghz/3.46ghz
i7 920: 2.8ghz/2.8ghz/2.8ghz/2.93ghz
i7 930: 2.93ghz/2.93ghz/2.93ghz/3.06ghz

most of this is bollocks though, because for a gamer, the real reason to choose between LGA 1366 (X58) and LGA 1156 (P55) is the presence of PCIe 2.0 lanes. The decision really comes down to whether or not you will use dual GPUs or not. If you are going to use two high end GPUs, go for LGA 1366. If not, LGA 1156 will be perfectly fine.

PCIe 2.0 X8 vs PCIe 2.0 X16 really isn't noticeable until you get into higher resolutions with AA and high qualities, where data bandwidth becomes an issue. An ATi HD 5770 will never notice the difference between X8 and X16, while an ATi HD 5870 will take a significant (enough) hit from the X8. I think just about every card above the ATi 4850/Nvidia 9800GTX area will take a hit from the PCIe 2.0 X4 though.

The PCIe 2.0 X16 @ X4 mode means that the slot itself is a full sized PCIe 2.0 X16 slot, but the bandwidth is equivalent to a PCIe 2.0 X4 slot! It is just a larger PCIe 2.0 X4. PCIe 2.0 X1 slots are just slots for expansion cards. They can be used for low end graphics though.

PCIe 2.1 actually doesn't add any bandwidth. I believe it was something else :p

MMO Tomb: Thanks!
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Dionyseus
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States2068 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-22 00:34:27
March 22 2010 00:24 GMT
#563
1280x1024

System:
Q9650 overclocked to 3.8ghz
GeForce 8600 GT
4gb DDR 2 RAM
Operating System Windows Vista Ultimate x64

Getting around 20-30 fps at a zerg base with a few immortals, stalkers, and mutalisks, and 30-40 at protoss base with a bunch of probes and two mutalisks, with the following settings:

texture: ultra
graphics quality: custom
post-processing: medium
reflections: off
effects: medium
shaders: medium
lighting: low
shadows: medium
terrain: medium
physics: low
models: high
unit portraits: 2D
movies: high


Anyone know what the cheapest graphics card (single, not sli) I'd need to run everything on the highest settings with my system?
9/5/10 P acct: NA D 10,683 651pts 69w56L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/290365/LetoAtreides T acct: NA D 16,137 553pts 70w67L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/1560008/Khrone Z: NA G 16,058 465pts 28w26L http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/1997354/Omnius
Jlab
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States217 Posts
March 22 2010 01:34 GMT
#564
Okay so i am trying to boot up my old computer (Seccond, not the one i'm on, or the one i just built)
As i am installing an OS it says "Setup did not find any hard disk dives installed in your computer"

Any ideas why?
DanceDance
Profile Joined November 2008
226 Posts
March 22 2010 01:37 GMT
#565
On March 22 2010 10:34 Jlab wrote:
Okay so i am trying to boot up my old computer (Seccond, not the one i'm on, or the one i just built)
As i am installing an OS it says "Setup did not find any hard disk dives installed in your computer"

Any ideas why?


Maybe your computer isn't recognizing your hard drive. Have you got all of your drivers up to date?
Jlab
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States217 Posts
March 22 2010 01:47 GMT
#566
I can't even get past trying to re-install windows XP because its got nowhere to install to. haha
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
March 22 2010 03:07 GMT
#567
I believe in order to use SATA drives, you have to provide the drivers. I don't think XP is capable of recognizing SATA hard drives by itself. You could try to go through BIOS and have the drive recognized as a legacy ATA (I'm not completely sure about this).

The common solution was to load drivers from a floppy... if you have one. Otherwise I think you can do it with a CD. Not exactly sure how, but it shouldn't be very different from the floppy method.

Or it could be a faulty hard drive.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Jlab
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States217 Posts
March 22 2010 03:21 GMT
#568
I have a floppy drive but no disks. I'll try the Hard drive on My new computer tomorrow and hope to god that isn't it. Can't afford a new one.

Im kinda sad too cause i OC'd that chip to 2.6 Ghz recently (max at three) and im excited to use it. haha

Thanks again :D
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
March 22 2010 18:00 GMT
#569
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Install-Windows-XP-On-SATA-Without-a-Floppy-F6-47807.shtml
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-24 05:31:12
March 24 2010 05:01 GMT
#570
If anyone is interested,
ATi 5850 for $230 after BCB
be aware, unknown brand and a 1 year warranty, but it IS compusa so...
whoops
forgot hte link
http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?threadid=1935748
it's OEM, but not used
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
March 24 2010 05:08 GMT
#571
link? It's probably like OEM or used.

Also for those interested in building an i7 system, at Microcenter
i7 860 $200 lga 1156 ($280)
i7 930 $200 lga 1366 ($290ish)
i7 920 $180 lga 1366 ($290ish)
i5 750 $180 lga 1156 ($200)

normal prices in parenthesis. I just picked up an i7 860
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
StayFrosty
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada743 Posts
March 24 2010 21:27 GMT
#572
Could someone tell me which of the following would be better for sc2?

http://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00361G0ZO/ref=asc_df_B00361G0ZO1068865/?tag=pricecanadaco-20&creative=380353&creativeASIN=B00361G0ZO&linkCode=asn

OR

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220696

Thanks
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
March 24 2010 22:31 GMT
#573
Go for the ASUS with the GTX 360M. It performs a lot better than the 5730M. The i5 430M should be able to keep up.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
StayFrosty
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada743 Posts
March 24 2010 22:35 GMT
#574
Do you think it will be able to support other modern games like mw2 and others being released in 2010?
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
March 24 2010 22:36 GMT
#575
Yeah, it will run just about anything at the moment. Watch out for temperatures though. Laptop GPUs get notoriously hot
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
StayFrosty
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada743 Posts
March 24 2010 22:37 GMT
#576
Yea I've already planned on purchasing a cooling system for it.
Mt.DiabloakaUniverse
Profile Joined March 2010
14 Posts
March 25 2010 17:28 GMT
#577
Hp Dualcore duo
2ghz
2G Ram
GeForce 7600 go
I've tried high and low settings and adjusting resolution.

This laptop is higher than the "minimum specs" I have read about and is truely unplayable.
I was hoping to have SC2 on the go, but that is a no-go.
brilliant quote: gtfo go-kart hellion! -MorroW
Dionyseus
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States2068 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-25 20:49:54
March 25 2010 20:41 GMT
#578
On March 22 2010 09:24 Dionyseus wrote:
1280x1024

System:
Q9650 overclocked to 3.8ghz
GeForce 8600 GT
4gb DDR 2 RAM
Operating System Windows Vista Ultimate x64

Getting around 20-30 fps at a zerg base with a few immortals, stalkers, and mutalisks, and 30-40 at protoss base with a bunch of probes and two mutalisks, with the following settings:

texture: ultra
graphics quality: custom
post-processing: medium
reflections: off
effects: medium
shaders: medium
lighting: low
shadows: medium
terrain: medium
physics: low
models: high
unit portraits: 2D
movies: high


Anyone know what the cheapest graphics card (single, not sli) I'd need to run everything on the highest settings with my system?


Just got my Sapphire Radeon HD 5770 today and this thing runs StarCraft 2 like a dream. Everything on ultra, shaders on extreme. At the start of games I'm getting constant 76-77 fps at protoss base. 12 minutes later when the protoss base is full with buildings I get constant 61-62 fps. Just slightly outside my natural at a battle between 8 zealots and 9 hydralisks I'm getting between 70 and 80fps. I get between 60-70 fps on a zerg base during a big P vs Z battle with zealots, sentries, colussus, hydralisks, zerglings, etc.

Sweet card.

edit: on Steppes of War I get around 50 fps at zerg base full of buildings and units, and 65-70 fps at a protoss base full of buildings, likely because of the weather effects.
9/5/10 P acct: NA D 10,683 651pts 69w56L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/290365/LetoAtreides T acct: NA D 16,137 553pts 70w67L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/1560008/Khrone Z: NA G 16,058 465pts 28w26L http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/1997354/Omnius
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
March 25 2010 22:39 GMT
#579
Dionyseus: ATi HD 5750 or 5770 will work well.

Mt.Diabolaka: Your graphics card is either barely at the minimum requirements or below the minimum requirements. The 7600Go 128 bit is on par with the 6600 and the 7600Go 64 bit is below the 6600!
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Jlab
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States217 Posts
March 26 2010 01:46 GMT
#580
On March 26 2010 07:39 FragKrag wrote:
Dionyseus: ATi HD 5750 or 5770 will work well.

Mt.Diabolaka: Your graphics card is either barely at the minimum requirements or below the minimum requirements. The 7600Go 128 bit is on par with the 6600 and the 7600Go 64 bit is below the 6600!


That is AWESOME to hear because as you probably know because of all your generous help i recently got a 5770 and it runs all the games, videos, and other stuff at really awesome wuality.
All i really need now is SC2 Beta. haha :D
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