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Hasire
Profile Joined February 2010
United States125 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-02 00:02:47
March 02 2010 00:02 GMT
#321
I love options, especially when I haven't built a comp in 2 years and all of the new naming these people love to use is near-meaningless to me. Definitely looking at the 5770 now, I had just heard tons of good about the 250.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-02 04:21:37
March 02 2010 04:06 GMT
#322
Oh, and I believe that the H55 mobo does not support PCIe 2.0 x8/x8 CrossFire/SLi, only x4/x4 D:

Nevermind, it's the PCIe controller on the i3/i5 Clarkdales that don't support it :p
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
snowbird
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Germany2044 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-02 07:45:46
March 02 2010 07:45 GMT
#323
Quick update on my machine:

# Operating system:Windows 2.6.1.7600 (Win7Ultimate 32bit)
# CPU type: Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.00GHz
# CPU Speed (GHz):3.03
# System memory (GB):1.999
# Graphics card model:NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GS -> Upgraded to Radeon5770
# Desktop resolution:1280x1024
# Hard disk size (GB):298.089

The game now runs ok on high and good on medium. My CPUs the bottleneck I suppose, but it runs good enough now!
@riotsnowbird
zhfac
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada8 Posts
March 02 2010 15:58 GMT
#324
@ snowbird can't you upg your CPU at all?
Life! Don't talk to me about life.
PGHammer
Profile Joined February 2010
United States132 Posts
March 02 2010 17:28 GMT
#325
On March 01 2010 08:24 FragKrag wrote:
I'd go for the Athlon 64X2.

Don't have an answer for you PGHammer :p


I pointed out that I'm not looking to push north detail-wise (I'm quite happy at 1360x800/32-bit/all-medium/Physics at low/movies at 3D/High) as even at that (seemingly low) setting, SC2 is the best looking game on my computer (and that is even though I actually have other games that are set higher than that in terms of both resolution and detail).

The two upgrades I *am* looking at (Q9350/9450 and HD5750) I have in mind for reasons other than SC2; while SC2 can make use of both upgrades, I have no desire, or interest, in moving my settings from where I have them, thanks very much.
Bad news, fellas
snowbird
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Germany2044 Posts
March 02 2010 19:53 GMT
#326
On March 03 2010 00:58 changturkey wrote:
@ snowbird can't you upg your CPU at all?


I'm thinking about upgrading my CPU but the only game I play is Starcraft 2 anyway and I'm not planning on playing anything else, so it would be a waste of money really since I'd have to upgrade motherboard, RAM and possibly the PSU also.

Sometime in the future I will though.

@riotsnowbird
s2pid_loser
Profile Joined March 2010
United States699 Posts
March 02 2010 19:59 GMT
#327
can someone tell me if this is adequate for my video
Graphics card model:Mobile Intel(R) 945 Express Chipset Family
Graphics card driver:igdumd32.dll


I feel like it should work but also cant figure out why I havent been opted in to beta XD
... unless there havent been another wave of betas recently

pls pm me
Et Ducit Mundum Per Luce
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
March 03 2010 01:50 GMT
#328
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-890gx-radeon,2571.html

For those interested in building a higher end AMD system, the 890GX chipset reviews are out at Tom's

Looks pretty lackluster aside from the new southbridge imo, but it does have SATA 6GB/s support. That should be reason enough to choose the 890GX! (The integrated graphics are apparently the best integrated in the world ATM? Not sure.) I am disappointed that it doesn't support USB 3.0 natively though ;/
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
StarMasterX
Profile Joined February 2010
United States113 Posts
March 03 2010 02:01 GMT
#329
Hey Frag thanks for your help. Last time I said I had this specs:

Pentium D 2.8ghz
2 Gig ram
Radeon X1950
1280 x 1024 resolution

You said it would probably run on medium. In your opinion what would you do if you were me if I wanted to upgrade (assuming same resolution)?
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10341 Posts
March 03 2010 02:13 GMT
#330
On March 03 2010 04:59 s2pid_loser wrote:
can someone tell me if this is adequate for my video
Graphics card model:Mobile Intel(R) 945 Express Chipset Family
Graphics card driver:igdumd32.dll

No, this will not be able to run SC2. Unless you have a gaming laptop, most laptops come with only very basic graphics support.
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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
March 03 2010 02:24 GMT
#331
Well the weakest part of that build is the X1950. Depending on how much you are willing to spend and your power supply, a better graphics card would most likely give you the most performance increase.

A $70-80 ATi HD 4670 will run on most PSUs and should be a decent upgrade (though not by much).

If you have a better PSU and higher budget, a $100-120 ATi HD 4850 is still a strong buy. I think a 9800GT offers about 2/3 - 3/4 the performance of the 4850 for around the same price, but I'm pretty sure they have better power consumption and run at lower temps. ATi HD 4770 is around the same price and around the same performance of HD 4850 and apparently OCs very well + lower power consumption.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
StarMasterX
Profile Joined February 2010
United States113 Posts
March 03 2010 03:30 GMT
#332
On March 03 2010 11:24 FragKrag wrote:
Well the weakest part of that build is the X1950. Depending on how much you are willing to spend and your power supply, a better graphics card would most likely give you the most performance increase.

A $70-80 ATi HD 4670 will run on most PSUs and should be a decent upgrade (though not by much).

If you have a better PSU and higher budget, a $100-120 ATi HD 4850 is still a strong buy. I think a 9800GT offers about 2/3 - 3/4 the performance of the 4850 for around the same price, but I'm pretty sure they have better power consumption and run at lower temps. ATi HD 4770 is around the same price and around the same performance of HD 4850 and apparently OCs very well + lower power consumption.


Thanks for the suggestions. I will take a look at all of those. What are your thoughts on the Radeon HD 4650 for the 1280 x 1024 resolution? You can get those for like 60 bucks now. I'm not sure how it would run SC2 though. Basically what IYO would be a baseline card to run SC2 smoothly on high graphics (sorry if this has already been answered).
DanceDance
Profile Joined November 2008
226 Posts
March 03 2010 03:30 GMT
#333
On March 02 2010 09:02 Hasire wrote:
I love options, especially when I haven't built a comp in 2 years and all of the new naming these people love to use is near-meaningless to me. Definitely looking at the 5770 now, I had just heard tons of good about the 250.


You won’t be disappointed with the 5770. I own one, it's very powerful, very quiet, temperatures are very low and power consumption is low. If you want peace of mind, get 5770. It outperforms the 4890 in performance for Starcraft 2.
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
March 03 2010 03:41 GMT
#334
On March 03 2010 12:30 StarMasterX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2010 11:24 FragKrag wrote:
Well the weakest part of that build is the X1950. Depending on how much you are willing to spend and your power supply, a better graphics card would most likely give you the most performance increase.

A $70-80 ATi HD 4670 will run on most PSUs and should be a decent upgrade (though not by much).

If you have a better PSU and higher budget, a $100-120 ATi HD 4850 is still a strong buy. I think a 9800GT offers about 2/3 - 3/4 the performance of the 4850 for around the same price, but I'm pretty sure they have better power consumption and run at lower temps. ATi HD 4770 is around the same price and around the same performance of HD 4850 and apparently OCs very well + lower power consumption.


Thanks for the suggestions. I will take a look at all of those. What are your thoughts on the Radeon HD 4650 for the 1280 x 1024 resolution? You can get those for like 60 bucks now. I'm not sure how it would run SC2 though. Basically what IYO would be a baseline card to run SC2 smoothly on high graphics (sorry if this has already been answered).

It's a good card. As for SC2... I think you can get maybe high settings at that resolution. I don't know about Ultra though. If this is just for SC2 and you won't play any other games, then you can stick with the 4650, but if you play other graphically demanding stuff, I'd suggest shelling out some more cash now and getting a better card.
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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-03 05:41:03
March 03 2010 04:15 GMT
#335
DanceDance: That currently isn't the safest statement. While it does outperform the 4890 in the SC2 Beta benchmarks, I believe that when SC2 is finally released, the 4890 will perform to its expected level. However, given the current scarcities of the 4890, the only real choices in the area are the 5770 and the 5830, both quite disappointing in their own right.

The 4650 is a great card at its price point, and you probably won't be disappointed with it either. However, given the 4670's results at your resolution on this computer + Show Spoiler [hi] +
4 PC
Intel Pentium D 940 @ 3.21ghz (2 core)
GPU: ATi Radeon 4670 DDR3 512MB
RAM: 2GB DDR2
Setting: Medium/High


I can't recommend a 4650 for high settings.

http://anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3755&p=4

HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Evelgest
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1 Post
March 03 2010 06:37 GMT
#336
I'm curious about those who have gotten it to run with an Intel GMA 4500MHD. What are your settings, specs, and possibly, drivers installed? OS? I keep hearing it runs, but my friend gets blobs and semi-spheres for minerals, etc. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

I can run it on medium on a NVS160M, but it's smoother on low. I also have it, obviously, on all ultra with my 4850.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-03 08:37:28
March 03 2010 08:35 GMT
#337
I'm surprised that they can run the game as well. Though it may just be that they have much lower standards. I believe that certain laptop mobos allocate extra RAM just for the IGP so that may help the performance of the Intel 4500M HD

Since we're on the topic of graphics, here's one of the videos showcasing the power of the GTX 480 at CeBIT
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=22702

so beauty ;_; Go to the bridge part for 'wow'

Set for March 26 release date. Lame.

Oh, and the i7 980X was running on an ASRock mobo apparently. 6 core processor~
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14899 Posts
March 03 2010 13:19 GMT
#338
On March 03 2010 13:15 FragKrag wrote:




http://anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3755&p=4

HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA


lol
Romance_us
Profile Joined March 2006
Seychelles1806 Posts
March 03 2010 15:45 GMT
#339
How much performance loss can you expect to see running a PCI-E x16 card in a PCI-E 2.0 x4, if the card isn't high-end?
Notes and feelings, numbers and reason. The ultimate equilibrium.
wintergt
Profile Joined February 2010
Belgium1335 Posts
March 03 2010 15:49 GMT
#340
I just ordered me a desktop comp, tired of my laptop who can't play any recent games and runs sc2 on all lowest at 13fps.

Processor: AMD Phenom II X4
RAM: Kingston 4GB 800MHz DDR2
Harddisk: Samsung 2000GB 7200rpm S-ATA
GPU: ATI Radeon HD 5770 1024MB

Should run the game flawlessly right?
here i am
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