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CapO
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1615 Posts
February 28 2010 06:59 GMT
#281
thanks for answering. i'm gonna set mine to 1024 x 768 at 16bit, which should be the one that takes the least amount of performance.

is there anything else i can do to minimize options?? my graphic quality is already set to "low", which sets everything else to either low or off.

btw, i turned off "music" volume, in case that helps.
SNSD fan
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
February 28 2010 07:05 GMT
#282
Setting music to off shouldn't do anything unless you are processor limited. It depends on what your computer is really.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
HaruHaru
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States988 Posts
February 28 2010 07:07 GMT
#283
Do you think my computer will run SC2?
OPERATING SYSTEM:WINDOWS 2.6.1.7600 ()
CPU TYPE: INTEL(R) CELERON(R) D CPU 3.33GHZ
CPU SPEED (GHZ):3.346
SYSTEM MEMORY (GB):1.998
GRAPHICS CARD MODEL:NVIDIA GEFORCE 9500 GT (MICROSOFT CORPORATION - WDDM V1.1)
GRAPHICS CARD DRIVER:NVD3DUM.DLL
DESKTOP RESOLUTION:1920X1080
HARD DISK SIZE (GB):103.285HARD
DISK FREE SPACE (GB):40.452
Long live BroodWar!
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-28 07:21:45
February 28 2010 07:21 GMT
#284
Yes it will run SC2, though not above low/medium at 1920x1080.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
RandomAccount#49059
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2140 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-28 08:27:38
February 28 2010 07:47 GMT
#285
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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
February 28 2010 08:33 GMT
#286
Updated OP with a HD 5830 review. Just need to bring another viewpoint on the mountain of hell that his put on the card!

Put things in perspective.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Hasire
Profile Joined February 2010
United States125 Posts
February 28 2010 11:12 GMT
#287
On February 28 2010 08:15 FragKrag wrote:
Hasire, whether or not DDR3 RAM gives you performance benefits, you still have to buy DDR3 RAM in order to use the new Intel cores. Core i3/i5/i7 do not support the older DDR2 RAM. The 3.06ghz isn't really worth it imo, because you can just OC it a bit. The i3 processors are really good with overclocking

It is likely that you will need a new PSU as well! As for Mobo, for lower budgets, a H55 mobo will be much more cost effective than a P55 mobo.

I'm not a big fan of that GTS 250. For that price, you could add $10 and get an ATi HD 5770


Thanks a bunch.

How exactly am I supposed to go about figuring out how much power I am going to need? I know Processor and GPU are pretty easy to account for, and I already know the DVD and HHD power reqs, but is there something I should be specifically aiming for? Do I want to have any 'spare' watts?

Also looking at DDR3 RAM, I realize I know nothing about what any of their 'terminology' means. The thing that seems to drive the price up [drastically] is Cas Latency, but how is 1 less Latency worth 60-70 dollars? Also ever set I look at only mentions the i5 and the i7, is it just assumed that DDR3 will work with the i3?

Last for now, when it comes to getting a case, what am I looking for? Completely unsure here.
snowbird
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Germany2044 Posts
February 28 2010 15:59 GMT
#288
# Operating system:Windows 2.6.1.7600 (Win7Ultimate 32bit)
# CPU type: Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.00GHz
# CPU Speed (GHz):3.03
# System memory (GB):1.999
# Graphics card model:NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GS
# Graphics card driver:nvd3dum.dll
# Desktop resolution:1280x1024
# Hard disk size (GB):298.089

All settings on low.
Game runs but has pretty bad mouse/scroll lag, making it pretty much unplayable.

I guess the GPU is just too bad. Maybe I'll just get a cheap GPU upgrade, then I should be fine (according to the info in this thread).

Thanks a lot for putting this thread together FragKrag!

Do you think a Radeon 5770 is viable for this PC or is the Pentium D not good enough utilize that GPUs potential anyway?
@riotsnowbird
sesmc
Profile Joined February 2010
China61 Posts
February 28 2010 18:02 GMT
#289
MBP:

2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
4 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRam
GeForce 8600M GT 256MB

any suggestions for this?
不要跟我比懒,我懒得跟你比
Floydian
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom374 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-28 18:31:35
February 28 2010 18:16 GMT
#290
If it was up to me FragKrag would get a forum star for this. This has been sooo much help.
member1987
Profile Joined February 2010
141 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-28 18:53:34
February 28 2010 18:46 GMT
#291
Asus P4P800-VM
P4 2.6GHz
1GB DDR400 ram
X1650pro 512mb DDR2
Settings: Low
Resolution: 1200x800

Average framerate: 16
Minimum framerate: 2
Maximum framerate: 54
member1987
Profile Joined February 2010
141 Posts
February 28 2010 18:52 GMT
#292
BIOSTAR A785G3 AM3
AMD Phenom II x4 955BE 3.2GHz
2GB DDR3 1333MHz
Sapphire Vapor-X 5770 1GB GDDR5
Settings: Ultra, extreme shaders
Resolution: 1680x1050

Average framerate: 46
Minimum framerate: 30
Maximum framerate: 88
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
February 28 2010 18:56 GMT
#293
Hasire: The i3 is just an second generation i5 that is clocked a bit lower and lacks TurboBoost. Everything else is the same. Normally, the manufacturer will tell you what kind of power supply you will need. There is a minimum requirement, and usually the GPU will use more power than the CPU (assuming you have a dedicated graphics card).

Cas Latency is the time it takes for the memory to respond to the memory controller after the memory contorller attempts to access it. The lower, the faster the memory responds. It really isn't worth your money to spend extra money on RAM just for Cas Latency/Speed because most of the time, due to the problems with motherboard support and other issues along with marketing schemes by RAM manufacturers, you will need to overclock and overvolt your RAM.

When it comes to getting a case, it's all based on opinion. The most important part is that you get a case which can fit your motherboard and graphics card. Personally, I prefer cases with bottom mounted power supplies, and that have at least 2 fans, 1 in the front, and one on the top, that way airflow can be maximized because the air goes from the bottom of the front to the top of the back and it moves across both your GPU and your CPU.

snowbird: The 5770 is definitely a viable upgrade.

sesmc: You have a laptop, and a mac laptop at that. I can't give you any suggestions on upgrading, but you should be able to run the game anyways.

member1987: ty.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
PGHammer
Profile Joined February 2010
United States132 Posts
February 28 2010 20:08 GMT
#294
On February 28 2010 16:47 stormtemplar wrote:
Yeah it should but WHY do you have a Celeron? Old comp?


Also check this out http://www.legitreviews.com/article/731/16/

If this is true than the 9800 GTX+ can in many cases out do the HD 4850, but the 4850 wins some too and they sell for about the same. 100-120 dollars. It appears the a 9800 is a bit more pricy in some cases and has a little bit more power in general. (Check out the benchmarks) I have the PNY variety and it eats games for breakfast. With 1280x1000 and high on crysis It breaks 30 FPS. I'd say both are great buys and you should get one if you want SC2 to run on ULTRA!



If he has a Celeron DC, it's a cut-down (lower-cache) Core 2 Duo (I have one); also, they overclock like Visigoths after pillaging a Starbucks (they overclock as a higher percentage of their base than any other Intel CPU, and especially on air). Lastly, they can act as placeholders (LGA775) for faster CPUs when you can afford them (when I built this computer, I certainly didn't have Celeron DC in mind; however, how often is it that you can get a dual-core CPU for $40, and retail/retail-boxed at that?).

On Ultra Detail, how much fancier is the detail in SC2 compared to (don't laugh) Medium?
Bad news, fellas
Papule
Profile Joined February 2010
United States2 Posts
February 28 2010 23:21 GMT
#295
My dinosaur computer:

AMD Athlon 64 3000 1.8Ghz
Epox Mobo 9ndaj
4 gig Corsair PC3200 ram
ATI Radeon HD 3850 AGP
40 gig Seagate HD
SB Audigy
Crappy 18" LCD monitor.
Nothing overclocked
WinXP Pro SP3

Runs silky smooth on lowest settings 1440x900. I can up the shader and texture one notch, and it's still ok. I put everything on ultra and it still runs, but choppy as hell, especially watching 4 player replays.

My CPU is a fossil. Planning to upgrade to Athlon 64 X2 or Athlon 64 FX. What would you guys recommend? A single or dual core? I'm not going to play any other game and I do nothing on the PC except surfing the net once in a while. Just looking for little better performance with least amount of money out of my pocket. I don't think it's worth it to me to buy a new computer.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
February 28 2010 23:24 GMT
#296
I'd go for the Athlon 64X2.

Don't have an answer for you PGHammer :p
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
March 01 2010 03:08 GMT
#297
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=113832
looks pretty drastic to me
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
March 01 2010 03:35 GMT
#298
What do you mean by drastic?
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
March 01 2010 03:38 GMT
#299
to PGHammer
low to high looks pretty different, i imagine medium to high will also be quite different
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
March 01 2010 03:59 GMT
#300
That benchmark was interesting, to say the least.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
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