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Mora
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada5235 Posts
June 24 2009 17:13 GMT
#1
david kim was interviewed about sc2. i have no idea about the content of the interview is - i was hoping one of our korean loved ones could translate for us! (or, if after reading it and noting that it's not worth translating, report back with that!)

the interview can be found here: http://game.chosun.com/article/view.php?no=60676.

블리자드엔터테인먼트(이하 블리자드)의 기대 RTS게임 '스타크래프트2(이하 스타2)'를 개발 중인 한국인 개발자를 만났다.

데이비드킴(본명 김태현)은 공개된 '스타2' 전투보고서(배틀리포트) 세 편에서 프로게이머에 버금가는 실력을 선보이며 게이머들 사이에서 화제가 되고 있는 인물이다. 2007년 블리자드에 입사한 그는 '스타2'를 개발하고 있는 50여명의 핵심 개발자 가운데 한 명.

그는 ‘스타2’와 관련된 세부적인 내용을 밝히는 것은 꺼려했지만 기자와의 가벼운 대화에서 블리자드에서 근무하는 개발자로서의 자부심을 드러냈다.

Q: 해외에서 근무하게 된 계기는?

A: 한국에서 태어나 캐나다 밴쿠버에 위치한 대학에 진학, 컴퓨터 과학을 전공하고 프로그래밍 준비하다가 '컴퍼니 오브 히어로즈'와 '워해머 20000' 시리즈로 유명한 렐릭사에 입사하며 밸런스 디자이너 일을 하게 됐다.

Q: 렐릭과 블리자드 두 회사는 어떤가?

A: 양쪽 회사 모두 뛰어난 RTS게임을 만들어내는 회사로 블리자드는 e스포츠 쪽에도 크게 염두를 두고 있으며 렐릭은 좀 더 다양한 방법의 플레이에 신경을 쓰는 것 같다. 개인적으로 양사 게임 모두를 재미있게 하고 있고 둘 다 최고의 회사라 생각한다.

Q: 블리자드에서 맡고 있는 일은?

A: '스타2'의 밸런스 디자인을 맡고 있다. 쉽게 말해 '스타2'의 각 유닛을 상황에 따라 필요성이 있도록 만들고 모든 게임에서 잘 사용되도록 하는 작업이다. 종족의 특성과 유닛 개별의 특성을 맞추는 것이 현재 최대 목표이다.

Q: 블리자드의 강점은 무엇이라고 생각하나?

A: 누구나 평등하게 의견을 제시할 수 있다는 점이다. 모든 일은 직급에 상관없이 자유롭게 토론과 이야기를 통해서 진행된다. 또한 각 분야에서 뛰어난 인재가 중심인물로 선정돼 일이 진행되며 대부분의 분야에 적합한 사람들이 배치돼 있다는 점이 강점인 듯 하다.

Q: 평소 즐겨 하는 게임은?

A: ‘월드 오브 워크래프트’가 첫 온라인 게임이다. 언데드 마법사를 키우고 있다. 또 최근 기대하고 있는 게임 중 하나는 북미 출시 예정인 ‘아이온’.

Q: '스타2' 실력은?

A: 현재 사내 레더 페이지에서 랭킹 1위다. 뭐 게임이 출시된다면 한국 게이머들에게 금방 밀릴 것으로 생각된다(웃음)
Happiness only real when shared.
Railz
Profile Joined July 2008
United States1449 Posts
June 24 2009 17:15 GMT
#2
I bet he said something along the lines of, "I am Bonjwa, 3-0"
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ramen247
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1256 Posts
June 24 2009 17:17 GMT
#3
On June 25 2009 02:15 Railz wrote:
I bet he said something along the lines of, "I am Bonjwa, 3-0"


rofl.
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infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
June 24 2009 17:18 GMT
#4
i'll do a quick summary if nobody's gonna do a full translation
Official Entusman #21
omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-24 17:57:49
June 24 2009 17:18 GMT
#5
online translator copypasta version *not official* until infinity21 comes and gives us the real deal.

Blizzard Entertainment (Blizzard or less) of the expected RTS game Starcraft 2 (hereafter Star 2), a development met with the Korean developers.

Deyibideukim (real name Kim Tae-hyeon), a public 'Star 2' battle report (the Battle of the report), three side, just as a professional gamer seonboyimyeo skills and has been an issue for gamers. Blizzard in 2007 joined the 'Star 2' and the development of 50 one of the core developers.

The 'Star 2' to reveal the details associated with kkeoryeohaet a light conversation with a reporter, but Blizzard has pride in the work as a developer.

Q: How did serving in foreign countries?

A: born in Korea, located in Vancouver, Canada to go to college, majoring in computer science and programming was ready for 'Company of Heroes' and' wohaemeo 20000 'Series relriksae joined, famous for the designer to work in balance.

Q: What about the two companies relrikgwa Blizzard?

A: Both companies make great RTS game company Blizzard has in mind the big e-sports and jjokedo relrikeun more attention to the views of the various methods are used. Fun game, and the companies personally, and I think both of hoesara.

Q: Blizzard is in charge in the job?

A: 'Star 2' has been the design of the balance. Let me 'Star 2' depending on the circumstances of each unit to the need to create is to be used in all games. Characteristics and attributes of individual units of the species, the largest goal is to spell.

Q: What do you think Blizzard's strengths?

A: Everyone is equal to give feedback. All work, regardless of position will be freely through discussion and stories. In addition, the central figure in each field with exceptional talents will seonjeongdwae 12 for most of the areas they are deployed there seem gangjeomin.

Q: The game is usually enjoy?

A: 'World of Warcraft' is the first online game. Eondedeu Wizard is regulated. One of the game, and also slated for release in North America, ahyion.

Q: 'Star 2' skills?

A: The company ranks No. 1 in Leather. What if the game releases in Korea for gamers think I will lose (laughs)
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i am speechless
danieldrsa
Profile Joined June 2008
Brazil522 Posts
June 24 2009 17:18 GMT
#6
there is a date for this interview?
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Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
June 24 2009 17:22 GMT
#7
On June 25 2009 02:15 Railz wrote:
I bet he said something along the lines of, "I am Bonjwa, 3-0"


He will destroy everyone in 2009 alpha sc2.
Chance favors the prepared mind.
roronoe
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada1527 Posts
June 24 2009 17:23 GMT
#8
haha, "The company ranks No. 1 in Leather."
The Purgatory of Endless Depths
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
June 24 2009 17:24 GMT
#9
He's a cool guy

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FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
June 24 2009 17:25 GMT
#10
On June 25 2009 02:18 omninmo wrote:
The company ranks No. 1 in Leather.


AH-HA!
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CrimsonLotus
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Colombia1123 Posts
June 24 2009 17:27 GMT
#11
On June 25 2009 02:23 roronoe wrote:
haha, "The company ranks No. 1 in Leather."


lol... So that is what they have been doing all of this time. No wonder the game is in development since 2002.
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infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-24 18:25:52
June 24 2009 17:30 GMT
#12
David Kim (korean name is Kim Tae-Hyun if anyone cares) is a korean developer working for Blizzard who has shown off skills rivaling pro gamers and has become a hot issue amongst gamers. He's one of the 50 key developers working on SC2.

He was born in Korea and did a degree in comp sci in vancouver, canada
He went off to do balance designer work for Relic in company of heroes and warhammer 40000 (thanks FA)
He's a balance designer for sc2. i.e. making all units in sc2 have a useful role in certain situations and making them easy to use in all games. Currently, the main goal is to complement each unit's unique traits to the race's traits.

Blizzard's strength is in being able to say your opinion equally. Every discussion is done freely without concern for who has what position. It has people with exceptional talent in each area as the main person. Also, each area has suitable people working in them.

He plays WoW ;; raising an undead mage
Waiting for AION (thanks Pufftrees) to come out.

Current SC2 skills? #1 in the company ladder page. He believes that he'll soon be pushed back by korean gamers once the game comes out lol

He thinks blizzard focuses more on esports and relic focuses on working on introducing a variety of playstyles.
*insert he thinks both companies are super duper awesome and he likes both of them*
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infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
June 24 2009 17:32 GMT
#13
mora, did you know him? :o
Official Entusman #21
Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
June 24 2009 17:32 GMT
#14
On June 25 2009 02:30 infinity21 wrote:
Waiting for Ion (sp?) to com out.


Thanks for translation. Ion i actually AION which is a Korean developed MMO coming out in the fall. Blizzard already noticed a subscription decline for WOW in Korea once this beta started (hardcore MMO).
Chance favors the prepared mind.
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
June 24 2009 17:34 GMT
#15
oh, another interesting point he makes

He thinks blizzard focuses more on esports and relic focuses on working on introducing a variety of playstyles.
*insert he thinks both companies are super duper awesome and he likes both of them*
Official Entusman #21
pR0gR4m3R
Profile Joined February 2008
Spain1446 Posts
June 24 2009 17:48 GMT
#16
David Kim SuperBownja :D
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Railz
Profile Joined July 2008
United States1449 Posts
June 24 2009 17:52 GMT
#17
On June 25 2009 02:34 infinity21 wrote:
oh, another interesting point he makes

He thinks blizzard focuses more on esports and relic focuses on working on introducing a variety of playstyles.
*insert he thinks both companies are super duper awesome and he likes both of them*


I played DoWII just recently actually. I thought I was buying an RTS =( The single player plays like Diablo II and multiplayer feels like a more hectic DoTA O_o

I don't know, it was fun and strategies were easy to pick up on but for some reason they don't have that "easy to learn, hard to master" thing going on for Multiplayer. It was a bit more difficult to catch on.

Also the units just feel so slow.
Did the whole world just get a lot smaller and go whooosh?_-` Number 0ne By.Fantasy Fanatic!
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-24 18:05:07
June 24 2009 17:54 GMT
#18
mod edit: please be nice

ok :/

im still not a big fan of relic games
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Mora
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada5235 Posts
June 24 2009 17:59 GMT
#19
On June 25 2009 02:32 infinity21 wrote:
mora, did you know him? :o


yessir.

Me and David were Balance Superviser's at Relic for about 2 years or so?

He's a really great. He's super smart, loves RTS games, loves korean e-sport, he's all around one of the most solid people i've worked with in the industry.

I plan on going down to visit him and the other Balance Designer, Matt Cooper, sometime in the next year. should be fun.
Happiness only real when shared.
Mora
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada5235 Posts
June 24 2009 17:59 GMT
#20
On June 25 2009 02:54 StorZerg wrote:
Relic can suck it. go esports blizzard ftw


hey manner please.
Happiness only real when shared.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25980 Posts
June 24 2009 17:59 GMT
#21
He says Relic sucks because Mora sucks.
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infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
June 24 2009 18:06 GMT
#22
On June 25 2009 02:59 Mora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2009 02:32 infinity21 wrote:
mora, did you know him? :o


yessir.

Me and David were Balance Superviser's at Relic for about 2 years or so?

He's a really great. He's super smart, loves RTS games, loves korean e-sport, he's all around one of the most solid people i've worked with in the industry.

I plan on going down to visit him and the other Balance Designer, Matt Cooper, sometime in the next year. should be fun.

sounds like an awesome guy =)

On June 25 2009 02:59 Chill wrote:
He says Relic sucks because Mora sucks.

oh, you're so clever
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
June 24 2009 18:18 GMT
#23
Thanks for the translation infinity, It should say "Warhammer 40000" tho, as there doesn't exist any game called Warhammer 20000 (I know the error is in the korean interview, but still).
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infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
June 24 2009 18:27 GMT
#24
ahh.. corrected. Thanks FA
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BC.KoRn
Profile Joined February 2003
Canada567 Posts
June 24 2009 18:37 GMT
#25
On June 25 2009 02:59 Mora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2009 02:32 infinity21 wrote:
mora, did you know him? :o


yessir.

Me and David were Balance Superviser's at Relic for about 2 years or so?

He's a really great. He's super smart, loves RTS games, loves korean e-sport, he's all around one of the most solid people i've worked with in the industry.

I plan on going down to visit him and the other Balance Designer, Matt Cooper, sometime in the next year. should be fun.


you were never superviser kid
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
June 24 2009 18:46 GMT
#26
On June 25 2009 03:37 BC.KoRn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2009 02:59 Mora wrote:
On June 25 2009 02:32 infinity21 wrote:
mora, did you know him? :o


yessir.

Me and David were Balance Superviser's at Relic for about 2 years or so?

He's a really great. He's super smart, loves RTS games, loves korean e-sport, he's all around one of the most solid people i've worked with in the industry.

I plan on going down to visit him and the other Balance Designer, Matt Cooper, sometime in the next year. should be fun.


you were never superviser kid


o_O"?
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JudgeMathis
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Cuba1286 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-24 18:48:45
June 24 2009 18:48 GMT
#27
On June 25 2009 03:46 alffla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2009 03:37 BC.KoRn wrote:
On June 25 2009 02:59 Mora wrote:
On June 25 2009 02:32 infinity21 wrote:
mora, did you know him? :o


yessir.

Me and David were Balance Superviser's at Relic for about 2 years or so?

He's a really great. He's super smart, loves RTS games, loves korean e-sport, he's all around one of the most solid people i've worked with in the industry.

I plan on going down to visit him and the other Balance Designer, Matt Cooper, sometime in the next year. should be fun.


you were never superviser kid


o_O"?


Drama.
edit: Hopefully Starcraft 2 does come out this year. I want them to release the beta so people can give reviews.
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Mora
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada5235 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-24 18:53:55
June 24 2009 18:53 GMT
#28
On June 25 2009 03:37 BC.KoRn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2009 02:59 Mora wrote:
On June 25 2009 02:32 infinity21 wrote:
mora, did you know him? :o


yessir.

Me and David were Balance Superviser's at Relic for about 2 years or so?

He's a really great. He's super smart, loves RTS games, loves korean e-sport, he's all around one of the most solid people i've worked with in the industry.

I plan on going down to visit him and the other Balance Designer, Matt Cooper, sometime in the next year. should be fun.


you were never superviser kid


when i signed my fulltime contract it said "balance superviser" on it. bring it.

edit - just so everyone knows, me and bc.korn worked together. lol.
Happiness only real when shared.
Mora
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada5235 Posts
June 24 2009 18:55 GMT
#29
oh oh! another interview i think...

infinity?

http://osen.freechal.com/news/view.asp?code=G0906240019

[OSEN=어바인(미국), 고용준 기자] 예전 한 설문조사에서 한국의 20대 청년들에게 취직하고 싶은 직종을 물었을때 많이 나온 대답 중의 하나가 게임회사의 입사였다. 그렇다면 게임회사에 다니는 이들이 가장 가고 싶은 곳은 어디일까. 바로 스타크래프트와 워크래프트 시리즈로 유명한 블리자드이다.

미국 캘리포니아주 어바인에 위치한 블리자드는 미국, 유럽, 아시아 지역에서 온 3000명의 직원이 근무하는 글로벌 기업. 1991년에 설립된 블리자드는 써드 파티 개발업체에서 현재 최고의 엔터테인먼트 소프트웨어 퍼블리셔로 발돋움했다.

3000명의 직원 중에 블리자드 본사가 있는 어바인에서 한 한국인이 자신의 맡은 바 소임을 다하고 있다. 스타크래프트2 전투보고서 1, 2, 3탄에 이름을 올린 데이비드 김(27). 한국 이름이로 김태연씨가 주인공이다.

한국에서 고등학교까지 마치고 캐나다로 건너간 김씨는 2007년 WWI서 발표된 스타크래프트2 발표장에서 블리자드 입사를 결심했다고 밝혔다. 당시 김씨가 다니던 회사는 워해머시리즈 유명한 랠릭 엔터테인먼트.

그해 겨울 데이비드 김은 2007년 겨울 자신이 동경하던 블리자드 입사를 성공했다. 블리자드에 입사한 김씨는 신작 스타크래프트2에 제작서 가장 중요한 역할 중 하나인 밸런스 디자이너를 맡으면서 e스포츠팬들에게 자신의 이름을 알리기 시작했다.

다음은 데이비드 김과 일문 일답.


- 밸러스 디자이너가 하는 역할은 무엇인지.
▲ 전장을 제작하는 역할도 있지만 종족간의 상성이라든지 지형에 대해 멀티 플레이어에 대한 디자인을 맡고 있다.

- 언제부터 게임에 대해 관심을 가지게 됐는지. 블리자드에 입사한 과정을 설명하자면.
▲ 슈퍼 패미콤의 드래곤볼 시리즈를 하면서 게임에 관심을 갖게 됐다. 고등학교 졸업하고 캐나다에서 대학공부를 하게 됐고, 자연스럽게 캐나에 있는 게임회사에 입사하게 됐다. 2007년 스타크래프트2 개발소식을 듣고 평소부터 관심이 있던 회사여서 지원을 하게 됐다.

- 블리자드에서 일하면서 느끼는 좋은 점은 어떤 점인지. 또 밸런스 디자이너를 희망하는 사람들에게 조언을 해준다면.
▲ 가장 즐거운 점은 내 취미가 블리자드 게임이었다는데 있다. 취미생활을 가지고 일을 한다는 자체가 즐겁다. 각 분야에서 뛰어난 사람들이 모여 있어 일할 때 무엇보다 편하는 점을 들 수 있다. 일을 진행하면서 믿음직스럽고 안심할 수 있다. 또 밸런스 디자이너의 경우 하나를 집중적으로 준비하는게 좋을 것 같다. 게임을 단순하게 잘하기 보다는 게임의 상성관계 라든지 종족간의 차이점을 고민하고 발전시킬지에 대해 생각하면 될 것 같다.

- 블리자드에 원하는 인재상을 말한다면.
▲ 사실 내가 하고 있는 직업 말고는 잘 모른다. 하지만 실력 위주인 것 같다. 물론 팀플레이 적인 일이 있어서 의사소통 같이 결정을 하고 직위와 능력에 상관 없이 모두가 동의할 수 있는 해결방법을 찾는 사람들이 아닌가 한다.

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is this the same thing or different?
Happiness only real when shared.
n00bonicPlague
Profile Joined August 2008
United States197 Posts
June 24 2009 18:55 GMT
#30
The company ranks No. 1 in Leather.
Well, that explains the Tauren Marines......
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Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-24 19:07:32
June 24 2009 19:01 GMT
#31
Mora, it looks pretty similar to the first one.

Google translate has actually become pretty decent lately so you can definitely get the meaning out of it (minus a few things :p )
http://translate.google.com

Yeah i think it's the same interview...or at least really similar questions
SirKibbleX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States479 Posts
June 24 2009 19:10 GMT
#32
the largest goal is to spell.


http://www.spellingbee.com/
Praemonitus, Praemunitus.
FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
June 24 2009 19:16 GMT
#33
He seems like a cool guy, from what I found out from the interview/Mora. I never really liked squishies, but that doesn't make him bad.
SonuvBob: Yes, the majority of TL is college-aged, and thus clearly stupid.
danieldrsa
Profile Joined June 2008
Brazil522 Posts
June 24 2009 19:23 GMT
#34
What you do today Mora?
-*-
pinenamu
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States770 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-24 20:33:59
June 24 2009 19:34 GMT
#35
i made more of a more complete interview, i started it before infinity's came out lol, but i had to run an errand and i was too late. didn't want to just leave it unfinished though :p i made all the fixes that i saw in the thread like Warhammer 40000 and AION.

블리자드엔터테인먼트(이하 블리자드)의 기대 RTS게임 '스타크래프트2(이하 스타2)'를 개발 중인 한국인 개발자를 만났다.

We met a Korean developer of Blizzard Entertainment’s (Shortened as Blizzard) anticipated RTS game Starcraft 2 (Shortened as Star 2).

데 이비드킴(본명 김태현)은 공개된 '스타2' 전투보고서(배틀리포트) 세 편에서 프로게이머에 버금가는 실력을 선보이며 게이머들 사이에서 화제가 되고 있는 인물이다. 2007년 블리자드에 입사한 그는 '스타2'를 개발하고 있는 50여명의 핵심 개발자 가운데 한 명.

David Kim (Korean name Kim Tae Hyun) appeared in the 3rd battle report and showcased talent of a pro gamer to become a topic among the gaming community. He is one of the 50 core developers of ‘Star 2’.

그는 ‘스타2’와 관련된 세부적인 내용을 밝히는 것은 꺼려했지만 기자와의 가벼운 대화에서 블리자드에서 근무하는 개발자로서의 자부심을 드러냈다.

Although he won’t reveal details about ‘Star 2’, he had a light conversation with the reporter about his pride being a developer for Blizzard.

Q: 해외에서 근무하게 된 계기는?
Q: How did you become to work in a foreign country?

A: 한국에서 태어나 캐나다 밴쿠버에 위치한 대학에 진학, 컴퓨터 과학을 전공하고 프로그래밍 준비하다가 '컴퍼니 오브 히어로즈'와 '워해머 20000' 시리즈로 유명한 렐릭사에 입사하며 밸런스 디자이너 일을 하게 됐다.
A: I was born in Korea and went to college in Vancouver, Canada, majoring in computer science. I was going to work for programming for the “Company of Heroes” and “Warhammer 40000” series but then became a balance designer for Relic.

Q: 렐릭과 블리자드 두 회사는 어떤가?
What is the difference between Blizzard and Relic?

A: 양쪽 회사 모두 뛰어난 RTS게임을 만들어내는 회사로 블리자드는 e스포츠 쪽에도 크게 염두를 두고 있으며 렐릭은 좀 더 다양한 방법의 플레이에 신경을 쓰는 것 같다. 개인적으로 양사 게임 모두를 재미있게 하고 있고 둘 다 최고의 회사라 생각한다.
For both companies excelling in making RTS games, it seems like Blizzard concerns more for the eSports side while Relic concerns more about diverse methods of play. The companies individually, make their games fun and they are both great companies.

Q: 블리자드에서 맡고 있는 일은?
Q: What job do you hold in Blizzard?

A: '스타2'의 밸런스 디자인을 맡고 있다. 쉽게 말해 '스타2'의 각 유닛을 상황에 따라 필요성이 있도록 만들고 모든 게임에서 잘 사용되도록 하는 작업이다. 종족의 특성과 유닛 개별의 특성을 맞추는 것이 현재 최대 목표이다.
A: I am a balance designer for ‘Star 2’. In other words, I make it so that units are needed in certain situations and also make it so that the units are used well in all games. The main goal right now is to match the unit’s characteristics to its race characteristics.

Q: 블리자드의 강점은 무엇이라고 생각하나?
Q: What do you think is Blizzard’s strengths?

A: 누구나 평등하게 의견을 제시할 수 있다는 점이다. 모든 일은 직급에 상관없이 자유롭게 토론과 이야기를 통해서 진행된다. 또한 각 분야에서 뛰어난 인재가 중심인물로 선정돼 일이 진행되며 대부분의 분야에 적합한 사람들이 배치돼 있다는 점이 강점인 듯 하다.
A: It is that anybody can express their opinion equally. Any concern, regardless of job, is discussed freely. Also, in each division there are extremely skilled people that are chosen as the leader so as the work progresses, it is arranged that there is a lot of agreement. (This was quite hard to translate, so many words I didn’t know, sorry if it’s wrong haha)

Q: 평소 즐겨 하는 게임은?
Q: What game do you enjoy usually?

A: ‘월드 오브 워크래프트’가 첫 온라인 게임이다. 언데드 마법사를 키우고 있다. 또 최근 기대하고 있는 게임 중 하나는 북미 출시 예정인 ‘아이온’.
A: My first online game is ‘World of Warcraft’. I am raising an undead mage. I am looking forward to the game ‘AION’.

Q: '스타2' 실력은?
Q: Your ‘Star 2’ skill level?

A: 현재 사내 레더 페이지에서 랭킹 1위다. 뭐 게임이 출시된다면 한국 게이머들에게 금방 밀릴 것으로 생각된다(웃음)
A: I am ranked 1st in the current ladder. However, when the game comes out, I will probably get owned by the gamers in Korea (laugh).
n00bonicPlague
Profile Joined August 2008
United States197 Posts
June 24 2009 19:38 GMT
#36
Thanks JinSol
Beta = 04/01/10
Cesar2000
Profile Joined April 2008
Sweden185 Posts
June 24 2009 19:39 GMT
#37
On June 25 2009 03:53 Mora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2009 03:37 BC.KoRn wrote:
On June 25 2009 02:59 Mora wrote:
On June 25 2009 02:32 infinity21 wrote:
mora, did you know him? :o


yessir.

Me and David were Balance Superviser's at Relic for about 2 years or so?

He's a really great. He's super smart, loves RTS games, loves korean e-sport, he's all around one of the most solid people i've worked with in the industry.

I plan on going down to visit him and the other Balance Designer, Matt Cooper, sometime in the next year. should be fun.


you were never superviser kid


when i signed my fulltime contract it said "balance superviser" on it. bring it.

edit - just so everyone knows, me and bc.korn worked together. lol.


Just so you know, superviser isnt a word.
D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
June 24 2009 19:56 GMT
#38
Interesting interview, thanks a lot!

David Kim honestly, kick Dustin ass and get promoted to lead dev.
" We are not humans having spiritual experiences. - We are spirits having human experiences." - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
pinenamu
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States770 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-24 19:58:33
June 24 2009 19:58 GMT
#39
Translated the interview part of the second interview

- 밸러스 디자이너가 하는 역할은 무엇인지.
What do you do as a balance designer?

▲ 전장을 제작하는 역할도 있지만 종족간의 상성이라든지 지형에 대해 멀티 플레이어에 대한 디자인을 맡고 있다.
Although there is working on the whole production of the game, there is also working on each characteristics of races and multiple layers (?).

- 언제부터 게임에 대해 관심을 가지게 됐는지. 블리자드에 입사한 과정을 설명하자면.
When did you start having interest in games? Can you explain why you chose to work for Blizzard?

▲ 슈퍼 패미콤의 드래곤볼 시리즈를 하면서 게임에 관심을 갖게 됐다. 고등학교 졸업하고 캐나다에서 대학공부를 하게 됐고, 자연스럽게 캐나에 있는 게임회사에 입사하게 됐다. 2007년 스타크래프트2 개발소식을 듣고 평소부터 관심이 있던 회사여서 지원을 하게 됐다.
In Super Famicom (?), I gained an interest in gaming while working on the Dragon Ball series. When I graduated from high school, I studied at Vancouver, Canada, and naturally I joined a game company. In the year 2007, I heard of the development of Starcraft 2 and I joined the company that I have always had interest in.

- 블리자드에서 일하면서 느끼는 좋은 점은 어떤 점인지. 또 밸런스 디자이너를 희망하는 사람들에게 조언을 해준다면.
What do you think are Blizzard’s strengths while working there? Also, for those who want to be a balance designer in the future, what advice would you give?

▲ 가장 즐거운 점은 내 취미가 블리자드 게임이었다는데 있다. 취미생활을 가지고 일을 한다는 자체가 즐겁다. 각 분야에서 뛰어난 사람들이 모여 있어 일할 때 무엇보다 편하는 점을 들 수 있다. 일을 진행하면서 믿음직스럽고 안심할 수 있다. 또 밸런스 디자이너의 경우 하나를 집중적으로 준비하는게 좋을 것 같다. 게임을 단순하게 잘하기 보다는 게임의 상성관계 라든지 종족간의 차이점을 고민하고 발전시킬지에 대해 생각하면 될 것 같다.
The most fun aspect of working at Blizzard is that my interest involves the games made by Blizzard. The whole idea of living inside my interests makes it fun. When the most talented people of each division work together, it is very comfortable. While working, there is a lot of trust, and a lot of peace of mind. I also like that as a balance designer, I only have to concentrate on one matter. To be a balance designer, instead of thinking how to make the game simple, you should think of the characteristics, race differences and similarities, and the expansion of the game.

- 블리자드에 원하는 인재상을 말한다면.
What kind of talented people do you think Blizzard wants?
▲ 사실 내가 하고 있는 직업 말고는 잘 모른다. 하지만 실력 위주인 것 같다. 물론 팀플레이 적인 일이 있어서 의사소통 같이 결정을 하고 직위와 능력에 상관 없이 모두가 동의할 수 있는 해결방법을 찾는 사람들이 아닌가 한다.
Honestly, I do not really know besides my job. However, I think the main consideration is skill. Of course there is a lot of teamwork so, regardless of (job) position, you need good understanding skills so that everyone will resolve the issue with the same agreement. I feel like these kind of people is what Blizzard wants.
Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
June 24 2009 20:00 GMT
#40
Thanks for more translations!
Chance favors the prepared mind.
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
June 24 2009 20:08 GMT
#41
On June 25 2009 02:59 Mora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2009 02:32 infinity21 wrote:
mora, did you know him? :o


yessir.

Me and David were Balance Superviser's at Relic for about 2 years or so?

He's a really great. He's super smart, loves RTS games, loves korean e-sport, he's all around one of the most solid people i've worked with in the industry.

I plan on going down to visit him and the other Balance Designer, Matt Cooper, sometime in the next year. should be fun.

wow. i never knew we had people like this, crazy crazy stuff. have fun on your trip in 2010!
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
June 24 2009 20:25 GMT
#42
On June 25 2009 02:24 Last Romantic wrote:
He's a cool guy

I vi-

NDA


I lol'd heartily.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5420 Posts
June 24 2009 20:32 GMT
#43
So I wonder if it's an actual internal company ladder - complete with AMM etc. Like the friend and family alpha.
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
June 24 2009 20:36 GMT
#44
Wait rofl shouldn't this be NDA too....its definitely from the press conference this week hahahah.
Archerofaiur
Profile Joined August 2008
United States4101 Posts
June 24 2009 20:48 GMT
#45
Didnt you hear Kennigit? They called off the NDA.
http://sclegacy.com/news/28-scl/250-starcraftlegacy-macro-theorycrafting-contest-winners
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-24 20:51:44
June 24 2009 20:50 GMT
#46
Oh ok so the angry emails we all got must have been spam or something LOL. I guess ill just tell sog and lr to start posting none stop then!
Archerofaiur
Profile Joined August 2008
United States4101 Posts
June 24 2009 20:54 GMT
#47
Ahh the similarities between this situation and Iran.....
http://sclegacy.com/news/28-scl/250-starcraftlegacy-macro-theorycrafting-contest-winners
Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
June 24 2009 20:56 GMT
#48
On June 25 2009 05:50 Kennigit wrote:
Oh ok so the angry emails we all got must have been spam or something LOL. I guess ill just tell sog and lr to start posting none stop then!


I like your style.
Chance favors the prepared mind.
Mora
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada5235 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-24 21:01:11
June 24 2009 21:00 GMT
#49
On June 25 2009 04:39 Cesar2000 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2009 03:53 Mora wrote:
On June 25 2009 03:37 BC.KoRn wrote:
On June 25 2009 02:59 Mora wrote:
On June 25 2009 02:32 infinity21 wrote:
mora, did you know him? :o


yessir.

Me and David were Balance Superviser's at Relic for about 2 years or so?

He's a really great. He's super smart, loves RTS games, loves korean e-sport, he's all around one of the most solid people i've worked with in the industry.

I plan on going down to visit him and the other Balance Designer, Matt Cooper, sometime in the next year. should be fun.


you were never superviser kid


when i signed my fulltime contract it said "balance superviser" on it. bring it.

edit - just so everyone knows, me and bc.korn worked together. lol.


Just so you know, superviser isnt a word.


Just so you know, it's isn't. isnt isn't a word. Those contractions can be tricky; gotta watch them.

go fuck yourself. i hope out of your 185 posts not all of them are this shitty.
Happiness only real when shared.
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
June 24 2009 21:04 GMT
#50
On June 25 2009 06:00 Mora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2009 04:39 Cesar2000 wrote:
On June 25 2009 03:53 Mora wrote:
On June 25 2009 03:37 BC.KoRn wrote:
On June 25 2009 02:59 Mora wrote:
On June 25 2009 02:32 infinity21 wrote:
mora, did you know him? :o


yessir.

Me and David were Balance Superviser's at Relic for about 2 years or so?

He's a really great. He's super smart, loves RTS games, loves korean e-sport, he's all around one of the most solid people i've worked with in the industry.

I plan on going down to visit him and the other Balance Designer, Matt Cooper, sometime in the next year. should be fun.


you were never superviser kid


when i signed my fulltime contract it said "balance superviser" on it. bring it.

edit - just so everyone knows, me and bc.korn worked together. lol.


Just so you know, superviser isnt a word.


Just so you know, it's isn't. isnt isn't a word. Those contractions can be tricky; gotta watch them.

go fuck yourself. i hope out of your 185 posts not all of them are this shitty.

They are. Peace out.
Mora
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada5235 Posts
June 24 2009 21:04 GMT
#51
On June 25 2009 04:23 danieldrsa wrote:
What you do today Mora?


I was promoted to Design.

I am now a Multiplayer Gameplay & Systems designer for a game we're (Relic) releasing in China called Company of Heroes Online. It's a RTS / MMO / Progression hybrid game.

It's actually really cool. It's like Company of Heroes and Magic the Gathering and Pox Nora combined.
Happiness only real when shared.
Mora
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada5235 Posts
June 24 2009 21:06 GMT
#52
On June 25 2009 06:04 Kennigit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2009 06:00 Mora wrote:
On June 25 2009 04:39 Cesar2000 wrote:
On June 25 2009 03:53 Mora wrote:
On June 25 2009 03:37 BC.KoRn wrote:
On June 25 2009 02:59 Mora wrote:
On June 25 2009 02:32 infinity21 wrote:
mora, did you know him? :o


yessir.

Me and David were Balance Superviser's at Relic for about 2 years or so?

He's a really great. He's super smart, loves RTS games, loves korean e-sport, he's all around one of the most solid people i've worked with in the industry.

I plan on going down to visit him and the other Balance Designer, Matt Cooper, sometime in the next year. should be fun.


you were never superviser kid


when i signed my fulltime contract it said "balance superviser" on it. bring it.

edit - just so everyone knows, me and bc.korn worked together. lol.


Just so you know, superviser isnt a word.


Just so you know, it's isn't. isnt isn't a word. Those contractions can be tricky; gotta watch them.

go fuck yourself. i hope out of your 185 posts not all of them are this shitty.

They are. Peace out.


Kennigit i could kiss you.

Or perhaps if that's not really your thing i could give you a hearty handshake.. or something?

coffee maybe?
Happiness only real when shared.
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
June 24 2009 21:06 GMT
#53
On June 25 2009 02:15 Railz wrote:
I bet he said something along the lines of, "I am Bonjwa, 3-0"


ahahaha irl lol
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
June 24 2009 21:08 GMT
#54
On June 25 2009 06:06 Mora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2009 06:04 Kennigit wrote:
On June 25 2009 06:00 Mora wrote:
On June 25 2009 04:39 Cesar2000 wrote:
On June 25 2009 03:53 Mora wrote:
On June 25 2009 03:37 BC.KoRn wrote:
On June 25 2009 02:59 Mora wrote:
On June 25 2009 02:32 infinity21 wrote:
mora, did you know him? :o


yessir.

Me and David were Balance Superviser's at Relic for about 2 years or so?

He's a really great. He's super smart, loves RTS games, loves korean e-sport, he's all around one of the most solid people i've worked with in the industry.

I plan on going down to visit him and the other Balance Designer, Matt Cooper, sometime in the next year. should be fun.


you were never superviser kid


when i signed my fulltime contract it said "balance superviser" on it. bring it.

edit - just so everyone knows, me and bc.korn worked together. lol.


Just so you know, superviser isnt a word.


Just so you know, it's isn't. isnt isn't a word. Those contractions can be tricky; gotta watch them.

go fuck yourself. i hope out of your 185 posts not all of them are this shitty.

They are. Peace out.


Kennigit i could kiss you.

Or perhaps if that's not really your thing i could give you a hearty handshake.. or something?

coffee maybe?

I'm a starbucks man if you're buying!
zizou21
Profile Joined September 2006
United States3683 Posts
June 24 2009 21:12 GMT
#55
hey Mora do you have a pic of DevKim? just curious
its me, tasteless,s roomate LOL!
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
June 24 2009 21:15 GMT
#56
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Archerofaiur
Profile Joined August 2008
United States4101 Posts
June 24 2009 21:19 GMT
#57
NDA!!!
http://sclegacy.com/news/28-scl/250-starcraftlegacy-macro-theorycrafting-contest-winners
Ranix
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States666 Posts
June 24 2009 21:19 GMT
#58
I want to see some of that company ladder though, although it is obvious that he would be #1 on it.
Legends never gg
Mora
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada5235 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-24 21:20:07
June 24 2009 21:19 GMT
#59
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Happiness only real when shared.
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
June 24 2009 21:28 GMT
#60
omg hes asian, next bonjwa!!!!!
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
June 24 2009 21:30 GMT
#61
On June 25 2009 06:28 Zoler wrote:
omg hes asian, next bonjwa!!!!!

He is the current bonjwa.
Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
June 24 2009 21:59 GMT
#62
On June 25 2009 06:30 Kennigit wrote:
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On June 25 2009 06:28 Zoler wrote:
omg hes asian, next bonjwa!!!!!

He is the current bonjwa.


he's 3-0 on the first 3 ever televised match of SC2, this guy deserves a golden keyboard.

Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
June 24 2009 22:01 GMT
#63
On June 25 2009 06:30 Kennigit wrote:
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On June 25 2009 06:28 Zoler wrote:
omg hes asian, next bonjwa!!!!!

He is the current bonjwa.


bonjwa of like 10 or 20 ppl who's playing right now? ^^
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Tsagacity
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2124 Posts
June 24 2009 22:03 GMT
#64
Seeing SC2 on the computers in those photos gives me chills I wish I could just make that my desktop.
"Everyone worse than me at video games is a noob. Everyone better than me doesn't have a life."
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
June 24 2009 22:08 GMT
#65
On June 25 2009 07:01 Zoler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2009 06:30 Kennigit wrote:
On June 25 2009 06:28 Zoler wrote:
omg hes asian, next bonjwa!!!!!

He is the current bonjwa.


bonjwa of like 10 or 20 ppl who's playing right now? ^^

Try every blizzard employee worldwide.
e4e5nf3
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada599 Posts
June 24 2009 23:37 GMT
#66
Has anyone played Company of Heroes and the two expansions? It's not exactly the most balanced game out there. And from what I hear of the Warhammer rts, it kept getting more and more imbalanced with each new expansion.
King takes Queen
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
June 24 2009 23:49 GMT
#67
Q: What about the two companies relrikgwa Blizzard?


ROFL.
#1 Sea.Really Fan / #1 Nesh Fan / Terran Forever~
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
June 25 2009 00:15 GMT
#68
On June 25 2009 07:08 Kennigit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2009 07:01 Zoler wrote:
On June 25 2009 06:30 Kennigit wrote:
On June 25 2009 06:28 Zoler wrote:
omg hes asian, next bonjwa!!!!!

He is the current bonjwa.


bonjwa of like 10 or 20 ppl who's playing right now? ^^

Try every blizzard employee worldwide.


and winner of all 3 televised games
[~~The Impossible Leads To Invention~~] CJ Entusman #52 The problem with internet quotations is that they are hard to verify -Abraham Lincoln c.1863
nataziel
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Australia1455 Posts
June 25 2009 00:16 GMT
#69
So basically korean dudes are pretending they didn't understand what the NDA was and broke it so they could put out this interview early?

I like their style.
u gotta sk8
spkim1
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada286 Posts
June 25 2009 00:25 GMT
#70
lol, omninmo's copy paste translation as well as his comment made me laugh so hard. Thanks, it got me off my tiring and depressive situation for a while. lol at the "leather" instead of "ladder"
"Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new" - Einstein, Albert
spkim1
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada286 Posts
June 25 2009 00:32 GMT
#71
Vancouver, Canada, yeah baby! Did he enjoy the beaches and mountains while doing his degree? lol. Which uni though? UBC?
"Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new" - Einstein, Albert
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8091 Posts
June 25 2009 00:36 GMT
#72
I really hope SOG/LR beat david kim on monday.
Free Palestine
Mora
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada5235 Posts
June 25 2009 01:10 GMT
#73
On June 25 2009 09:36 Ideas wrote:
I really hope SOG/LR beat david kim on monday.


lol?

they couldn't even beat him in sc1 - they obviously won't beat him at sc2.
Happiness only real when shared.
Mora
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada5235 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-25 06:45:20
June 25 2009 01:15 GMT
#74
On June 25 2009 08:37 e4e5nf3 wrote:
Has anyone played Company of Heroes and the two expansions? It's not exactly the most balanced game out there. And from what I hear of the Warhammer rts, it kept getting more and more imbalanced with each new expansion.


David Kim did not work on COH all that much - he was supervisor for DOW balance team; i was supervisor for COH.

While the DOW Expansions did experience balance concerns, you need to keep in mind that it is not a direct reflection on the balancers. When something goes wrong in code, and the Far Seer becomes invincible, you need to note that that is a bug, and not a balance problem.

The last expansion for DOW was made by Iron Lore (not Relic), and so the initial balance of the game is hard to credit to the balance team. A difficult job in the smoothest of times, working via proxy and email makes it particularly tough. If you look at the latest patches to DOW however, they were incredibly well received.

Relic is a relatively new company that's still learning her way through the online space. Blizzard is an established monolith. David Kim will have the experience and talent behind him at Blizzard, and this bodes well for SC2.
Happiness only real when shared.
danieldrsa
Profile Joined June 2008
Brazil522 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-25 01:47:16
June 25 2009 01:45 GMT
#75
On June 25 2009 06:04 Mora wrote:
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On June 25 2009 04:23 danieldrsa wrote:
What you do today Mora?


I was promoted to Design.

I am now a Multiplayer Gameplay & Systems designer for a game we're (Relic) releasing in China called Company of Heroes Online. It's a RTS / MMO / Progression hybrid game.

It's actually really cool. It's like Company of Heroes and Magic the Gathering and Pox Nora combined.


good to know we have some gaming professionals among us
And its good to know some ppl in Relic still play Starcraft1
-*-
ZenDeX
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Philippines2916 Posts
June 25 2009 02:29 GMT
#76
Matt Cooper: a/s/l?

David Kim: stfu
sword_siege
Profile Joined September 2002
United States624 Posts
June 25 2009 05:08 GMT
#77
It's been a long time since I've made a post but I've enjoyed this thread immensely and appreciate the translators and Mora's inside view into David Kim and game development.

Cheers!
stroggos
Profile Joined February 2009
New Zealand1543 Posts
June 25 2009 07:20 GMT
#78
On June 25 2009 02:34 infinity21 wrote:
oh, another interesting point he makes

He thinks blizzard focuses more on esports and relic focuses on working on introducing a variety of playstyles.
*insert he thinks both companies are super duper awesome and he likes both of them*


he just doesn't want to hurt relics feelings. His mind is probably thinking "BLIZZZARDD OWNZZ 1!111!!
hi
zizou21
Profile Joined September 2006
United States3683 Posts
June 25 2009 07:40 GMT
#79
On June 25 2009 06:19 Mora wrote:
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its me, tasteless,s roomate LOL!
djdolber
Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden85 Posts
June 25 2009 07:46 GMT
#80
what is his apm ?
SCV good to go sir!
Retsukage
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1002 Posts
June 25 2009 08:12 GMT
#81
On June 25 2009 16:46 djdolber wrote:
what is his apm ?


I hope this was a joke
To change is to improve, to change often is to be perfect - Winston Chruchill
Lovin
Profile Joined May 2009
Denmark812 Posts
June 25 2009 12:57 GMT
#82
On June 25 2009 16:40 zizou21 wrote:
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LMAO :D
AKA SuddenSalad
Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
June 25 2009 13:05 GMT
#83
On June 25 2009 16:40 zizou21 wrote:
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On June 25 2009 06:19 Mora wrote:
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Someone get this man one of Tasteless' nerd baller shirts.
Nyovne
Profile Joined March 2006
Netherlands19135 Posts
June 25 2009 13:24 GMT
#84
On June 25 2009 02:24 Last Romantic wrote:
He's a cool guy

I vi-

NDA

kekekekekek
ModeratorFor remember, that in the end, some are born to live, others born to die. I belong to those last, born to burn, born to cry. For I shall remain alone... forsaken.
iMate
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada263 Posts
June 26 2009 05:22 GMT
#85
he prob gets like 200-250 apm with one hand
BalliSLife
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
1339 Posts
June 26 2009 05:27 GMT
#86
does he go to ubc?
Ya well, at least I don't fuck a fleshlight with a condom on and cry at the same time.
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