If these two games were coming out at the same time, I'd probably be a bit more excited for D3. i've played d2 for 4-5 years, and from what i've seen, this has everything I liked from d2 and more. to list a few: - physics engine, meaning destructible objects/environment - new drop system, so barb items go to the barb, etc - b.net 2.0, so I'm expecting D3 to be pretty much maphack, botting, duping, and hacking free. d2 used old coding and really suffered from this, probably its biggest letdown. - a lot more balanced character classes
Now about SC2. I've played sc for about 3-4 years (I moved onto sc after I quit d2), and i've probably seen every piece of media released on sc2. I'll most definitely be playing it all the way until d3 is released (ie. late 2010), unless something goes really wrong with the game that I haven't seen yet. However, when both come out, it'll be a tough decision but i'll probably move onto d3.
SC2 obviously has the competitive skill factor that d3 will never have, but d3 is a lot more relaxing and laid back. I found it more enjoyable hanging out and playing with friends on d2 than sc from experience.
In any case, just hoping to get some other opinions. I don't really know anyone who's played both d2 and sc (and looking forward to sc2 and d3), so they're either really bias or not interested
Poll: Are you more excited about D3 or SC2? (Vote): Diablo 3 (Vote): Starcraft 2
On June 17 2009 14:57 travis wrote: lol i hate to say it but im more excited about d3 im too old for sc2... don't have the super competitive spirit anymore
im not that old, but not that competitive for the most part
On June 17 2009 14:58 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Either way when both are released the rest of my life the previous hasn't destroyed the latter will finish off.
This. But i'm inclined to think D3 is going to do a much better job of ruining my life. It's going to be like when fallout 3 sucked three weeks of my life into oblivion but since its online and i can do it over and over with more and more characters it will never end.
But SC2 i'll probably just be addicted till i become good enough to newb bash :-/
Starcraft is one of my favorite games of all time, but the Diablo series has always been just pure fun. Starcraft has epic competitive moments but it really isn't that great when you want to just sit down and relax, quite the contrary, I find it tends to get people (myself included) too riled up. Huge APM requirements to play effectively are bleh.
To be honest, I'm probably only going to play SC2 2v2 ladder for kicks, nothing serious. Diablo 3 will probably take up most of my free-time/rainy day times. I'll probably have to set aside time for SC2
BUT
If talking about SC2 on a whole, campaigns and future UMS maps included, then I'm more excited for SC2. UMS maps held/hold my interest still to this day for SC.
On June 17 2009 14:57 travis wrote: lol i hate to say it but im more excited about d3 im too old for sc2... don't have the super competitive spirit anymore
i feel this way, way more into single player nowadays
On June 17 2009 14:57 travis wrote: lol i hate to say it but im more excited about d3 im too old for sc2... don't have the super competitive spirit anymore
Same. However, i still would hate a 'casual' SC2 just the same. D1/D2 were great. Hopefully D3 is as good as D1 but with having more gear/char customizations like in D2. Then that would be epic.
I feel sc2 just can't live up to the original and I like things the way they are now (sc wise) so I'm not really that excited about sc2 because it'll break all of that apart, slowly but surely. On the other hand I never really got into Diablo and by now it's pretty dated so I'm actually looking forward to checking out the new one.
I think most casual people will tend to play more D3 because you can just sit and relax like Aurra said. But if SC2 is as good as SC:BW than in 5 years nobody will play D3 anymore while SC2 will be huge in e-sports...that's only if SC2 is good tough
D2 was one of my favorite games ever. from what i see D3 isn't like that anymore, it isn't a lightning fast game with pk and pvp anymore, and i didn't hear anything about hardcore mode, playing on softcore was such a waste of time.
As for SC2, i'm sure BW will remain a better game.
SC2 for sure. Diablo 2 is a great game but it's not the kind of thing that has ever been able to hold my attention for periods longer than a few weeks at a time, I kind of expect the same thing from Diablo 3.
aw man, i grew up playing diablo 2, but that sucked a good 5 years out of my life. For that reason, I'm picking starcraft 2, I can't afford to be gaming that much anymore
On June 17 2009 15:33 GGTeMpLaR wrote: omg this is crazy!!
I can't believe so many people picked D3, I mean it's an awesome game and Diablo series has been pretty much my favorite online RPG ever but ..
on a Starcraft site, you'd think Starcraft 2 would win by a landslide.
have you seen the footage and trailers for d3? they blew my mind
On June 17 2009 15:34 darkhorse wrote: aw man, i grew up playing diablo 2, but that sucked a good 5 years out of my life. For that reason, I'm picking starcraft 2, I can't afford to be gaming that much anymore
I also spent 5 years on d2. I'll probably be putting another 5 into D3 lol
As for sc, I've played it on and off for a few years, but now im taking it a lot more seriously.. got back into it and now that all my friends are playing, wont be quitting for a while
I will probably play trough diablo3 for the quests, story and atmosphere. But it will probably not have much replay value or I wont play and ladders and grind levels/drops etc.
I will probably play alot more sc2 online and follow the esport scene and strategy on forums etc.
Im alot more hyped for sc2 than d3 overall. Cant wait for beta :3
Diablo 3 is pretty simple, im not a huge fan of the first two, I've played both of them a few times, multiplayered a bit, w/e. So basically when I play d3 i'll either love it and that will be awesome, or I won't like it that much and life will go on.
Starcraft 2 is not. I am a huge fan of the first as all of us are, I play it every day and watch so much progaming I can recognize more scrawny koreans that I can professional football players (And I live in texas >_>). If I play sc2 and I love it, it will be relief, if I don't, most of me will die inside.
d3 is somewhat exciting sc2 is anxiety inducing :[
On June 17 2009 15:24 Rostam wrote: SC2 for sure. Diablo 2 is a great game but it's not the kind of thing that has ever been able to hold my attention for periods longer than a few weeks at a time, I kind of expect the same thing from Diablo 3.
I agree. So far, I'm disappointed with D3. Basically D3 didn't seem to bring too many new things to the table. Like many others, I wasn't "wow" by D3's announcement.
Actually the biggest problem is that D3 will suffer the same fate as D2, it just won't capture the same originality as D1. While it'll still be nice coop fun, I just fear D3 might suffer a even bigger diminishing return as it's the 3rd game in the series. I don't know how many people remember, but prior to D2's launch, lots of fans wanted to have a balanced PvP/arena system. While, it was part of Blizzard's plans, the idea was eventually ditched because obviously it was just too difficult to balance along side the PvE.
I guess I'm just disappointed that there really isn't anything new. At least War3 had innovative ideas(for better or worse), the core gameplay is identical in all the diablos.
On June 17 2009 14:57 travis wrote: lol i hate to say it but im more excited about d3 im too old for sc2... don't have the super competitive spirit anymore
Question dude.
How old are you?
wait..
How old are you guys? i mean all of you, who played SC since it first released in..1998.
On June 17 2009 16:11 ManWithCheese wrote: Both, starcraft for the pure competitiveness and fun then d3 to relax and lower my heart beat in a fun dungeon crawler.
On June 17 2009 16:11 ManWithCheese wrote: Both, starcraft for the pure competitiveness and fun then d3 to relax and lower my heart beat in a fun dungeon crawler.
Basically this... sometimes starcraft makes me too enraged for me to play a lot of the time...so diablo 3 will be better when i'm tired/not feeling like putting in the effort for sc. (but i swear, diablo 2 lag causing me to die pissed me off quite a bit as well)
I'm definitely going to play D3, but I haven't been so underwhelmed by a Blizzard game in my life. So far, it's pretty much exactly like D2 ... Just different classes/abilities, slightly updated UI ... Better graphics of course, but oh well. As someone mentioned above, nothing really innovative about it. I was expecting something similar to Guild Wars' system, where you have "towns" that are like channels and then you join games by grouping up for an instance, etc. etc.... Maybe like WoW game but quicker paced like the Diablo games... and versus mass monsters etc.
I can't see D3 Bnet really wowing me either, but who knows.
SC2, on the other hand, I'm overly excited for not just for the gameplay, but the updated Bnet and shit. A real ladder, an AMM, automated tournaments, all taking place on new maps (I hate playing BGH/hunters/python over and over again on bnet ) plus all the extra fluff is a lot of fun (icons/achievements) even if they don't "mean" anything. So you got all this stuff and then what looks to be really fun, long lasting gameplay.
To be honest, I'm not even excited for SC2... I feel like it will just be like another WC3 except with some Starcraft units.. but I really don't know what I'm saying I guess. I just don't think SC2 will be better than BW. People will play SC2 because it's the sequel and will continue the story, but I don't think it will be good competitively. BW still beats all games there.
I personally am a huge fan of Diablo 2. I didn't play Diablo 1, but I will probably go bust it out before D3 comes out in 10 years so I can get the lore, and I'd probably have to play D2 again, but just for the story since I would have had played D1 too.
Definitely D3 in this poll. I honestly cannot wait for D3 to come out in 10 years. I knew it was coming, and when all that teaser stuff emerge I knew it would be announced. Seeing the gameplay makes me jizz in my pants, but I think they need to make it more darker/evil(er?) and not too much like everything is light. The Diablo series is like evil and dark..
Not gonna lie... I'm really dissapointed by the results in this. essentially its showing that you would rather this be a diablo 3 site instead of a sc2 site in the future, which is not looking good for the future of SC2. Its really up to the hardcore sc fans to push sc2 into the pro-scene, and thats a pretty shaky start D:
I love starcraft, duh. I wont have time, probably nor the hardware necessary to play SC2. I hope I can make my way through the campaign anyway somehow. Still, Diablo2 is the very best casual game around for me and some friends even until this moment, and I have high hopes for Diablo3, and I'm looking forward to it more then sc2.
edit: wtf is up with the people bitching about d3 voters in this thread? Seriously, there is so much bullshit on this page already I can't even answer to them all. Common sense people, please.
Starcraft 2, because when D3 comes out I might have quit playing games *gasp*, or dead, considering it will be a few blizzard years before it comes out.
SC2. I've always been an avid RTS gamer. It's my favourite genre and the though of my favourite RTS getting a sequel is very thrilling. I like RPGs a lot too, and I'm convinced that I WILL get D3 the second I see it on store shelves just like SC2, but I'm more hyped about SC2. Both games will be fun to play, and I'm awaiting them both eagerly.
I'm more excited for SC2 but will probably want to play D3 just to have fun with friends I don't see anymore. Honestly though... neither. I won't have time for these games soon. I'll live vicariously through you guys by watching your SC2 vods!
D3 will take forever because there is just sooooooooooooooooo much shit they can. Look at D2, torches and ubers were added like what? half a decade after the game.
On June 17 2009 20:14 fearus wrote: D3 will take forever because there is just sooooooooooooooooo much shit they can. Look at D2, torches and ubers were added like what? half a decade after the game.
Even if D3 played exactly like D2 with better graphics + more/different acts, I would play it. And it would be the best hack-n-slash ever.
Diablo 2 already was shit compared to the first part. Seeing how Blizzard more and more caters to skilless newbies Diablo 3 will be even less Hack'n'Slay, but more stupidly running around collecting items. No thx.
Diablo 3 for sure, i just can't wait to sit down and just rape mobs with awesoem abilities and grp up with my old d2 buds. Starcraft 2 is fun in a different way, it's more competitive. Diablo 3 is just made for the fun-factor more than anything else, which is why i'll probably enjoy it more than SC2, you can just sit down and have fun without having to invest alot of hours in order to become "good".
D3 for me. There are some things about SC2 that i don't like but D3 is a whole new world, a new fantastic point of view No one to tell us no Or where to go Or say we're only dreaming
On June 17 2009 14:57 travis wrote: lol i hate to say it but im more excited about d3 im too old for sc2... don't have the super competitive spirit anymore
pff you aren't that old, my brother is a week older than you and he will probably play SC2. In fact even our other older brothers will probably play. You still got a good run left in you.
I won't be able to play either game for a couple years, but I think that will give time for sc2 to breathe.
What's with the Diablo bashing over requiring no skill? That's the freaking point. It's a hack 'n slash dungeon crawler. It's meant to be played at a lan with buddies while eating pizza and wiping the grease off on your shirt. It's a FUN game. It's not meant to be competitive and those that make it so are missing the point.
That being said, I look forward to SC2 a good deal more. It'll probably be the only game I play until D3 comes out.
I like SC better than Diablo, but i have this feeling that BW > SC2 and DIII >>>>>> DII.
StarCraft's appeal is all about competitive gaming, and i think this is going to suffer because of MSB, automining, autocast, etc, no matter what Blizzard does. They may soften its impact, but i still believe that SCII's competitive appeal will be something like 70% or 80% of Broodwar's, while i have no reason to believe that DIII wont be better in every aspect than DII, given that the game is based more around leveling up, collecting powerful items, trading them, cooperative play and just a very small competitive aspect wich i dont will suffer at all with this new game.
So, despite my preference for SC2, i believe that DIII will be the better sequel.
This thread is funny. Starcraft 2 has a powerful map editor, in Starcraft 1 you could already create diablo-like games with the map editor, with Starcraft 2 you could do better and even create Diablo 3 like games.
Starcraft 2 because even if the melee sucks the mapping community won't. There's a huge lineup of SC mappers waiting to get their hands on it that never even touched WC3.
On June 17 2009 22:19 [DUF]MethodMan wrote: Diablo 2 already was shit compared to the first part. Seeing how Blizzard more and more caters to skilless newbies Diablo 3 will be even less Hack'n'Slay, but more stupidly running around collecting items. No thx.
Well aren't you a negative nancy.
Im more excited for starcraft II of course but without any doubt im gonna buy them both when they come out
Diablo3'd but excited about SC2 aswell hopeing it can fill the void all these decades until D3 comes out and maybe even beyond that. D3 feels like a safer bet in that sense beeing an old D2 addict It just feels that SC2 will either hit or miss, either awesome or uninteresting. Maybe one of the expansions will make it awesome if it "fail" from the start tho..
On June 17 2009 22:25 ToT)OjKa( wrote: D3 for me. There are some things about SC2 that i don't like but D3 is a whole new world, a new fantastic point of view No one to tell us no Or where to go Or say we're only dreaming
On June 17 2009 22:24 Cephi wrote: Diablo games are meh, mouse mashers grind fest.
StarCraft is where it's at
I've never understood why Starcraft players bash Diablo as a "mouse mashing" game considering Starcraft 1 requires more mouse clicks than the Diablo series to play efficiently.
I liked playing diablo 1 and 2 as a single player game. The community is full of hackers botters and abusers of all kinds however so playing on bnet isn't that fun competitive wise, unless you're willing to hack yourself...
I will buy diablo 3 just for casual play and run once through the campaign just because I like the theme a lot.
On June 17 2009 23:53 rytas wrote: Diablo3'd but excited about SC2 aswell hopeing it can fill the void all these decades until D3 comes out and maybe even beyond that. D3 feels like a safer bet in that sense beeing an old D2 addict It just feels that SC2 will either hit or miss, either awesome or uninteresting. Maybe one of the expansions will make it awesome if it "fail" from the start tho..
Completely agree with this. SC2 has a really high bar to satisfy. SC2 will either nail it or turn out to be 'meh' D3 you will get exactly what you see and expect.
On June 17 2009 14:57 travis wrote: lol i hate to say it but im more excited about d3 im too old for sc2... don't have the super competitive spirit anymore
Same here. And after I saw this wizard movie for D3 I almost wet my pants.
On June 18 2009 00:48 imperator-xy wrote: diablo is for wow nerds so i prefer sc2
hi
Wtf?
i just wanted to be funny
but somehow i dont really like diablo 3 i played titan quest and it was very funny for ~10 hours, but after that it was just nothing for me. and i dont think diablo 3 will be that much different.
btw. why do people think that sc2 will possibly fail while they are sure that diablo 3 wont fail?
On June 18 2009 00:48 imperator-xy wrote: diablo is for wow nerds so i prefer sc2
hi
Wtf?
i just wanted to be funny
but somehow i dont really like diablo 3 i played titan quest and it was very funny for ~10 hours, but after that it was just nothing for me. and i dont think diablo 3 will be that much different.
btw. why do people think that sc2 will possibly fail while they are sure that diablo 3 wont fail?
because sc2 has a reputation to uphold in a differnt way than diablo 3. diablo 3 is plain and simple, hack and slash you like it or you don't.
rts gameplay is evolving and many people who still play starcraft don't want things to change.
Diablo 3 is a hack and slash game that is so much like Diablo 2 in everything other than the graphics that it's the game I've looked forward to the least including all WoW expansions.
That's a really tough call. I haven't played RTS competitively since like 2005, so I'm itching to play SC2. Plus the single player will be great, and custom games are always fun, too. I'd have to say what makes it for me as a designer is the SC2 editor though.
I wish they would return to the more gothic theme that diablo 1 had. I'm anticipating both Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3 a lot though since diablo 3 will be the first diablo game to have a good interface and will actually take skill to play it.
On June 17 2009 15:24 Rostam wrote: SC2 for sure. Diablo 2 is a great game but it's not the kind of thing that has ever been able to hold my attention for periods longer than a few weeks at a time, I kind of expect the same thing from Diablo 3.
I agree. So far, I'm disappointed with D3. Basically D3 didn't seem to bring too many new things to the table. Like many others, I wasn't "wow" by D3's announcement.
Actually the biggest problem is that D3 will suffer the same fate as D2, it just won't capture the same originality as D1. While it'll still be nice coop fun, I just fear D3 might suffer a even bigger diminishing return as it's the 3rd game in the series. I don't know how many people remember, but prior to D2's launch, lots of fans wanted to have a balanced PvP/arena system. While, it was part of Blizzard's plans, the idea was eventually ditched because obviously it was just too difficult to balance along side the PvE.
I guess I'm just disappointed that there really isn't anything new. At least War3 had innovative ideas(for better or worse), the core gameplay is identical in all the diablos.
Serious? I thought it was the other way round... D1 was really really really frustrating because you kept getting damn books you couldn't use! Like it was such a gamble to go Mage because there was a chance you'd never get any decent books. And then when you went warrior you felt so bum when you got some epic book you couldn't use. I think they're gonna have the best of both worlds with the 3rd one because now you 'find spells' (like D1) that modify the spells you level up (like D2).
Although perhaps you found the 'all in' approach of D1 skills/spells more appealing... i just found it frustrating as hell :p
On June 17 2009 22:25 ToT)OjKa( wrote: D3 for me. There are some things about SC2 that i don't like but D3 is a whole new world, a new fantastic point of view No one to tell us no Or where to go Or say we're only dreaming
However i must agree that D3 will be A Whole new world, a dazzling place I never knew. But now I'm way up here Its crystal clear That now I'm in a whole new world... with youuuuu....[StarCraft Twoooo....]
p.s. I heard the SC2 map editor is so uber-powerful, they're actually making D3 in it.
On August 05 2009 08:04 Kennigit wrote: Reopened under condition that OP provides some substance.
You waited 2 months to open it back up? Did he just come begging for you to open it or something?
yes, actually. it was closed after only one day or so, and I just remembered it. there isn't really anything happening with sc2 at the moment, so i thought i'd bring this back up for the time being.
On June 17 2009 14:57 travis wrote: lol i hate to say it but im more excited about d3 im too old for sc2... don't have the super competitive spirit anymore
SC2 is just ahead. Can't wait to watch epic games on it and my competitive edge is revving up. D3 is close though, should be fun to plod around with some pals.
Diablo 2 has infinite iterations of fun. Starcraft has infinite possibilities, but you never see that at the skill levels I'm capable of playing. /shrug. Voted D3. Starcraft is still number 2 on my best games ever list, but D2 is just... the most fun I've ever had gaming.
You post this in a Starcraft forum, what result did you expect
I'm into RTS. In an RPG your character is defined by the gear level and player skill. Player skill is capped by gear level. Blizzard is unfair that way. In RTS, your skill is all that matters.
Diablo 3 looks like it'll be horrible, purely from the ridiculous problems seen in trailer footage. Not game problems, i'm talking design and attitude problems. A bright and cheery world where heroes do insane WHOOSH and BAM physics-defying NEON FIRE attacks like some sort of cocaine-tripping children's anime is not at all a sequel to two games that were grim, gothic, and mundane-for-the-most-part. Like in d1 and d2, heroes swung weapons, shot arrows, and cast spells. In d3 it's more like they shout move names and do all sorts of cool s**t just to impress kids. Like ULTRA BARBARIAN CHOP!!!!!!!! *small leap, sudden kinetic change straight down, NEON BLUE FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!*
In other words, if Blizzard is approaching D3 with this design attitude, the game won't be anything like the first two, and I won't like it.
Why the hell are there so many votes for D3 on a hardcore SC fansite like TL Diablo is just click click click click, oh look I leveled up, time to click some more. If I wanted something like that, I'd rather play WoW.
Starcraft 2 all the way. Diablo 3 looks like loads of fun, but for me, classic Starcraft feel + easier to play (always a plus for a n00b like me) + new units + pretty graphics + epic RTS campaign + uber-powerful map editor + competitive e-sports scene > pretty graphics + RPG + unique classes + smashing stuff. Call it an opinion, though...
When the official Starcraft 2 release date is announced, I told my friends and family that the release date is gonna be the last day they'll ever see me again
On August 05 2009 10:33 teamsolid wrote: Why the hell are there so many votes for D3 on a hardcore SC fansite like TL Diablo is just click click click click, oh look I leveled up, time to click some more. If I wanted something like that, I'd rather play WoW.
Not to burst your bubble but starcraft is essentially click click hotkey click click ect.., gg re?....
I loved the first diablo, for some reason didn't really enjoy the second one at the time, and was pumped at the news of the announcement for the third one. That said, SC2 is my most anticipated game, by far, D3 is just another cool game on the horizon that I am eagerly waiting for, I just dont think it'll consume all my thoughts and free time like SC2 will.
Having played WoW for 3 and a half years I can safely say there's zero reason of getting diablo3, ZERO. Secondly, I don't understand the double standard of sc2 must be perfect for competitive play, yet it sounds like many will be playing d3 for fun. That's why blizz makes games fun first and everything else second. Really though, I dont want it to be perfectly competitive, its alright if its not, because wc3 was lots of FUN and even when I stopped 1v1ing, I constantly played 2v2 and lots of custom maps that were just amazing and tons of fun. So really, don't look at just one facet of sc2(1v1) and pretend that if that isn't good enough then you'll just not play it. You play casually? Play custom maps and never be disappointed because tons of people will be playing which means tons of maps being made constantly.
BW is undoubtedly my favourite game of all time and I'm way more 'excited' for SC2 than I am D3... however, I don't play BW at all anymore... I just watch replays and VODs of progames. Like Travis, I don't have that burning in my gut for competitive video gaming anymore (as a player), it just doesn't matter to me. Consequently, I'll probably end up playing D3 more than I do SC2 and just continue watching replays and VODs of people who are enthusiastic about being good players and can perform at high standards.
D3 will lend itself to casual play a lot more than SC.
On June 17 2009 14:57 travis wrote: lol i hate to say it but im more excited about d3 im too old for sc2... don't have the super competitive spirit anymore
Question dude.
How old are you?
wait..
How old are you guys? i mean all of you, who played SC since it first released in..1998.
Diablo 3 without a doubt. Guess the rts bug in me finally died out, well that or too much clicking.
o but D2 also has a lot of button mashing... but still D3, SC2 will probably feel much more like a rehash. diablo being a rpg will most likely have much more new content.
D3, just because I don't have the time to play Sc2 like I did with SC1, so rather have a game I can pop in for a few hours and have fun with, I'm too competitive by nature to play Sc2 if I can't play it seriously.
On August 05 2009 10:30 garmule2 wrote: Diablo 3 looks like it'll be horrible, purely from the ridiculous problems seen in trailer footage. Not game problems, i'm talking design and attitude problems. A bright and cheery world where heroes do insane WHOOSH and BAM physics-defying NEON FIRE attacks like some sort of cocaine-tripping children's anime is not at all a sequel to two games that were grim, gothic, and mundane-for-the-most-part. Like in d1 and d2, heroes swung weapons, shot arrows, and cast spells. In d3 it's more like they shout move names and do all sorts of cool s**t just to impress kids. Like ULTRA BARBARIAN CHOP!!!!!!!! *small leap, sudden kinetic change straight down, NEON BLUE FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!*
In other words, if Blizzard is approaching D3 with this design attitude, the game won't be anything like the first two, and I won't like it.
Easy there scooter. He an't done nobody no harm. http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news/diablo-hate-internet.php When I get the game imma gonna get on my white and purple unicorn and run far far away, over the rainbow away from all the trolls. There I'll sip tea with Diablo, Baal and Mifesto as we play dress up's together.
I have played both D2 (for about 2 years) and Starcraft for about 10 years. I will probably play both games depending on how serious I want to take SC2. So, I am excited about both!
I remember when this thread was first made. I forgot if it was in general or S&G but d3 actually had more votes than sc2. Then it got moved to the sc2 subforum and that changed fast :p
On June 17 2009 14:57 travis wrote: lol i hate to say it but im more excited about d3 im too old for sc2... don't have the super competitive spirit anymore
wow my sentiments in the first reply. + SC2 looks godawful from everything i've seen. Past being stubborn, the graphics just don't appeal to me for an rts. Diablo 3 will undoubtably be awesome but I have many hesitations about playing SC2 competitively ~_~ Prolly gonna play BW forever once a week.
I will definitely probably pick up D3 at some point if they shift focus away from l33t gear and more on the characters...one thing I can never come to terms with in D2 is how ridiculous some of the items are (freaking enigma...I mean COME ON), but the characters skills and the dark, gothic lore of the series is genuinely interesting (even if both the Assassin and Druid are retconned, I still <3 them both). The gameplay videos seems like it's trying to place more even more mirco managment control with in the environment than before; my first impression is it looks a lot more like a Gauntlet-style, action-oriented hack and slash (think Champions series in a dreary setting) now than the generally boring formula of dungeon crawling established in the first two games.
also, screw the witch doctor lame idea for a character in Diablo universe IMO
Actually, I go for D3, because I love RPGs and exploration, fascinating vistas, occultism and cruelty (virtually of course). This isn't like D3 is better than SC2 for me, they both should be amazing, but I guess I'll enjoy single player of SC2 better than multiplayer.
SC2, but its pretty close. I doubt I'll be particularly competitive in the melee scene, but I'm still a big fan of the gameplay (was the same with Starcraft). Then add on top of that the single player missions, the likely massive UMS scene, the number of friends who'll probably get into it, and the closer proximity of its release date and I can't help but be a bit more hyped.
Maybe if D3 had more information out and was closer to release I might feel a bit differently, but that's impossible to say now. That said, its still probably #2 on my most anticipated games.
edit: oh and how could I forget ESPORTS! I'm pretty anxious to see how fun it is to watch some super high level players duke it out to see if it compares to the excitement of SC.
On June 17 2009 14:55 Assault_1 wrote: If you haven't seen these, I suggest you spend a few minutes watching them.. i've probably seen the barb footage half a dozen times
If these two games were coming out at the same time, I'd probably be a bit more excited for D3. i've played d2 for 4-5 years, and from what i've seen, this has everything I liked from d2 and more. to list a few: - physics engine, meaning destructible objects/environment - new drop system, so barb items go to the barb, etc - b.net 2.0, so I'm expecting D3 to be pretty much maphack, botting, duping, and hacking free. d2 used old coding and really suffered from this, probably its biggest letdown. - a lot more balanced character classes
Now about SC2. I've played sc for about 3-4 years (I moved onto sc after I quit d2), and i've probably seen every piece of media released on sc2. I'll most definitely be playing it all the way until d3 is released (ie. late 2010), unless something goes really wrong with the game that I haven't seen yet. However, when both come out, it'll be a tough decision but i'll probably move onto d3.
SC2 obviously has the competitive skill factor that d3 will never have, but d3 is a lot more relaxing and laid back. I found it more enjoyable hanging out and playing with friends on d2 than sc from experience.
In any case, just hoping to get some other opinions. I don't really know anyone who's played both d2 and sc (and looking forward to sc2 and d3), so they're either really bias or not interested
Poll: Are you more excited about D3 or SC2? (Vote): Diablo 3 (Vote): Starcraft 2
Dude... have you forgotten about the map making community that's going to come from Starcraft and Warcraft 3? It's like buying 50 games in one. Starcraft 2's map editor will allow for many relaxing and fun games to be made. Starcraft 2 isn't just all about melee/standard competitive play... don't forget about the UMS stuff, it's a huge component as well.
Probably more excited about D3 but it's so far away so there's really no point in being excited about it right now. But with SC2 being released within a reasonable amount of time (yes I am that naive) I am a little more excited about that right now.
I played diablo 2 for about a month, bought the expansion and then never even beat it. It is a good game and I can understand that people play to relax, but it just never held me like starcraft.
I also question how much of the preference to diablo is simply because it is a newer game that has been played more recently. It is only what, 6 years old maybe? If the games had come out in opposite order, I bet starcraft would beat diablo handily.
Furthermore, the hectic pace of starcraft right now will be toned down massively once sc2 comes out. People who want to play half hearted will be able to and still win somtimes.
SC2 because I have never played Diablo and don't intend on doing so ever. I've already lost a good portion of my life to Starcraft and I don't think adding Diablo will help regain any.
On June 17 2009 14:57 travis wrote: lol i hate to say it but im more excited about d3 im too old for sc2... don't have the super competitive spirit anymore
Question dude.
How old are you?
wait..
How old are you guys? i mean all of you, who played SC since it first released in..1998.
24. I'm very excited about SC2, and mildly excited about D3. I don't plan to play too much SC2 competitively though.
On August 05 2009 22:04 onmach wrote: I played diablo 2 for about a month, bought the expansion and then never even beat it. It is a good game and I can understand that people play to relax, but it just never held me like starcraft.
I also question how much of the preference to diablo is simply because it is a newer game that has been played more recently. It is only what, 6 years old maybe? If the games had come out in opposite order, I bet starcraft would beat diablo handily.
Furthermore, the hectic pace of starcraft right now will be toned down massively once sc2 comes out. People who want to play half hearted will be able to and still win somtimes.
I don't think diablo 2 being a younger game has anything to do with that, besides it's like 10 years old so it came around the same time as SC anyway. In diablo you have completely different pace, it being a co-op game as opposed to a 1on1 game like SC, so you can't really stop midgame in SC like you can in diablo and just chat, hell you can even chat somewhat during harder parts of diablo, whilst in SC wich relies so much on timings thus makeing diablo more social in a way. Just look at WoW and how popular that is, and it's pretty much an IM-client you have to subscribe too It's not suprising that the sequel to one of most sold games has some votes on a poll even on a SC-forum imho But the state wich diablo 2 is in right now is hopeless with all the hacking, bots etc, ppl are probably hopeing for a repeat of diablo 2's glory days with D3. Also D3 hasn't seen as many disappointments as SC2 yet (no lan, classic BW units out etc).
That being said both games will probably be awesome in completely different ways and ppl probably would vote on both if they could kinda makeing the poll a little wierd
This is TL not a mainstream gaming site like GT, IGN etc so obviously it will be biased towards SC2 but even there most generic fanboys would not give a fuck, it's a whole different market than 11 years ago...
i voted for sc2 and i wont buy d3 i played titan quest and it was fun for like 30 hours, but then i didnt play it again because it was all the same and the game was so easy and tiring... it made me feel the same as wow did.
also i wont have time for d3 since i gonna be progamer in sc2
On June 17 2009 14:57 travis wrote: lol i hate to say it but im more excited about d3 im too old for sc2... don't have the super competitive spirit anymore
that, plus i dont like how sc2 is developing so far :p
I wish there was an option to vote for both. I don't really compare these types of games at all. It is like asking if Im more excited for ice creme or steak. Depends on if Im hungry for meal food or dessert food. Im excited for SC2 for competitive play/smack talking with friends, and D3 for relaxed loot grabbing/laughing with friends. As far as story goes however I would say SC2 wins slightly.
I can't wait for sc2, and will play it a whole lot, but it still doesn't compare to how excited and giddy watching the d3 cinematic trailer makes me, I just love the world and story (and game) to death.
D3, no doubt. I played Starcraft 1 for 9 years and Diablo 2 for 3 years. I'd say that D3 shows many features I'm looking forward to when playing D2 and nothing new that annoy me. However, SC 2 gets rid of much essence from its predecessor with many replacements that are either boring or mediocre, and even weird. Besides, as an modern RTS team, the Starcraft 2 development team seems not so talented and not innovative at all, while D3 team shows good understanding of what they can do with new technoloy to improve their game.
Diablo 1 had a real "soul" and an awesome atmosphere. Diablo 2 was a mindless but addictive lottery. Dunno how D3 will be but i doubt it will have a "soul" like D1 so i won't be really interested. Maybe few weeks casualy like i did with D2.
Top 5 all time best video game music hands down. ( Could even be #1 imo ).
Sc2 ... well i don't really know. There are tons of good things about this game ( UMS, cliff jump, some cool new units, lore etc ... ) but many bad things ( No Lan, auto mine, some cool units gone, mothership etc ... ).
So probably Sc2 but i'm not sure. Bw is still #1 in my heart compared to those two games :p
I am more excited about sc2 but not for the reasons most are probably putting down. I am excited for ums type games. I tried and failed to be good at sc and now I don't have the time or the mechanics to be good at sc2. However I know that ums can be a ton of fun in the casual manner which the op is talking about.
On August 06 2009 01:30 bburn wrote: I am more excited about sc2 but not for the reasons most are probably putting down. I am excited for ums type games. I tried and failed to be good at sc and now I don't have the time or the mechanics to be good at sc2. However I know that ums can be a ton of fun in the casual manner which the op is talking about.
Competitive low level can also be fun.
I enjoy playing 1v1 / 2v2 at D+ level tbh :p You don't need to be B+ or higher to enjoy bw.
On August 05 2009 23:28 Shin_Gouki wrote: I voted for sc2 as well. mmorpg's were just never my thing although I probably will buy d3 since I never played d2. sc2 will be played 24/7 =o
D3 won't be MMORPG, it will be more like D2 - cRPG with multiplayer mode (or how some hardcore cRPG fans would say - hack and slash). MMORPG means MASSIVE multiplayer online role playing game - i.e. no "custom games", but one huge world with all the users playing with every other user logged on at the same time.
I voted SC2 simply because i've spent more time playing SC1 than D2 and D2 got boring to me after like 6 years (actually it was fun for like 4 years but then i got into multiplayer and then you lose all the fun after some time, cause you no longer want to waste few days bashing monsters, because taxi is more comfortable, and worst thing is that before playing multi every single stupid rare item with like +2 to all skills and some more good bonuses seemed like godlike, while on bnet after few hours of rune hunting/mfing/key hunting/anni or torch farming/etc etc you get runes for way more powerful items than after like month of for-fun farming from times before bnet), while SC1 is still entertaining.
Plus hell, SC had really entertaining plot, while Diablo's plot was like... Nonexistant :p
Still i'm gonna buy both and play SC2 campaing first (for great plot) -> multiplayer and D3 single player -> LAN with friends (unless they remove this option which would be stupid, since LAN doesnt kill all the fun from Diablo unlike bnet)
Maybe I am too pessimistic, but I always feel that Sc2 will only be another RTS while D3 has the opportunity to start a new era for ARPG. Wish that the release of Sc2 would prove my gloomy prediction to be false.
On August 06 2009 04:12 ilistis wrote: Do people still play Diablo? I've played the starcraft campaigns as well as the warcraft 3 campaigns but I don't think I've touched Diablo.
Should I play it? Diablo 3 looks really cool so I guess it would help if played the first two.
Playing Diablo I and II would save you an hour or two worth of learning process for Diablo III at most.
You'll have your talent points as you level up (system launched in D2, refined in WoW), and you'll need to plan ahead on how to spend them. Apart from that, the game should be pretty micro intensive. You have your character, you use your attack and special abilities, bad guys blow up. You pick up loot, buy potions and equipment with it, and go back to kill more bad guys.
On August 06 2009 04:12 ilistis wrote: Do people still play Diablo? I've played the starcraft campaigns as well as the warcraft 3 campaigns but I don't think I've touched Diablo.
Should I play it? Diablo 3 looks really cool so I guess it would help if played the first two.
Playing Diablo I and II would save you an hour or two worth of learning process for Diablo III at most.
You'll have your talent points as you level up (system launched in D2, refined in WoW), and you'll need to plan ahead on how to spend them. Apart from that, the game should be pretty micro intensive. You have your character, you use your attack and special abilities, bad guys blow up. You pick up loot, buy potions and equipment with it, and go back to kill more bad guys.
Truth. Figure out what a Unique item is. Then try to get them, as they will augment/pimpout your character. Oh, and adjust your skill points, wisely.
On August 06 2009 04:12 ilistis wrote: Do people still play Diablo? I've played the starcraft campaigns as well as the warcraft 3 campaigns but I don't think I've touched Diablo.
Should I play it? Diablo 3 looks really cool so I guess it would help if played the first two.
Should you play Diablo? Do you like clicking your mouse a lot without much thought?
On August 06 2009 04:12 ilistis wrote: Do people still play Diablo? I've played the starcraft campaigns as well as the warcraft 3 campaigns but I don't think I've touched Diablo.
Should I play it? Diablo 3 looks really cool so I guess it would help if played the first two.
Should you play Diablo? Do you like clicking your mouse a lot without much thought?
LoL and you have a better idea of how to attack enemies? Auto attack? You can use about as many hot keys as SC2... and probably can click just as often. I don't see your point...
Also, chilling out and having all nighters with friends is what D3 is all about... how often do you do chill out and have all nighters with starcraft. Playing starcraft is mentally INTENSE, as in you feel drained after it. Playing Diablo is more like getting stoned...
Diablo III easily wins this for me. I am far more excited for it. My interest on SC2 peaked about two or three months ago, now I just want the damn game and it's delayed on top of that!
both games seems really good, but i think SC2 cant compare to the feeling of BW. It will be hard i think. Diablo3 can easily compare to D2 because of the same kind of feeling when playing it.
Depends on my mood. When I finish work, all I want to do is veg out in front of the computer and kill mindless hordes of monsters. On the other hand, SC tickles my cerebral side.
On August 06 2009 04:12 ilistis wrote: Do people still play Diablo? I've played the starcraft campaigns as well as the warcraft 3 campaigns but I don't think I've touched Diablo.
Should I play it? Diablo 3 looks really cool so I guess it would help if played the first two.
Should you play Diablo? Do you like clicking your mouse a lot without much thought?
I seriously doubt that holding left mouse button with my hammerdin is more damaging to my mouse or my brain than trying to reach 200 or whatever apm in order to beat a human opponent.
don't understand how ppl think it will come before SC2 tho, it will come out AT LEAST 6+ months after sc2
Diablo 3 only has 3 classes revealed so far. It's like when only the Terrans and the Protoss had been revealed for SC2. Yeah, I doubt Diablo 3 will come out before SC2.
On August 05 2009 10:30 garmule2 wrote: Diablo 3 looks like it'll be horrible, purely from the ridiculous problems seen in trailer footage. Not game problems, i'm talking design and attitude problems. A bright and cheery world where heroes do insane WHOOSH and BAM physics-defying NEON FIRE attacks like some sort of cocaine-tripping children's anime is not at all a sequel to two games that were grim, gothic, and mundane-for-the-most-part. Like in d1 and d2, heroes swung weapons, shot arrows, and cast spells. In d3 it's more like they shout move names and do all sorts of cool s**t just to impress kids. Like ULTRA BARBARIAN CHOP!!!!!!!! *small leap, sudden kinetic change straight down, NEON BLUE FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!*
lol.. it's not really like that. People have made reviews when they played it at blizzcon 2008, and said despite the brighter colours etc it has the same dark feel like the first one. that reminds me.. I haven't played the first one, maybe I should beat its campaign.
Someone else made a good point about sc2 not being pure competitive. sc2 has endless options with fun custom games and such, which I almost forgot about.
D3 for me... I'm not even excited at all for SC2. I didn't want SC2 to be made to be honest. 3-D just looks like Warcraft but SC version. So yeah I said it I'm not even happy that SC2 is coming out.
I like to play against other people and beat them. Sure D3, you can duel with other people but I highly doubt the classes will be balanced. I will get D3 for sure but of course, it will just be leveling up my char, get my items, and duel against other people. Never liked the endless clicking of killing monsters. Sure it's fun the first time you do it. But after the 100th time of doing the exact same task of grinding your items/leveling, it gets sick.
D3 no contest whatsoever. I am not looking forward to SC2 at all.
And I think a lot of the people saying D3 will be too repetitive, or lack of "fast" pvp and pk etc will ruin it, didn't play D2 from the start. D2 at the beginning, before the expansion, when rares were better than uniques and there were no runes, charms, etc, was fucking awesome. The expansion and the hacks and dupes and bots ruined D2. A better, larger, cooler D2 (D3) with actual anti-hack, anti-cheating, would be sweet.
Actually, the reason I quit D2 was because of the expansion. I was one of the most old schooled players that focused on PvP. We actually focused on building a balanced agility/strength for the bowazon for dueling. I missed the days when items were actually unique and you were in the trading room looking to trade items.
The original, the 5 classes were more balanced (although still far from been balanced which is why I didn't really like D2). The expansion introduced new items/balance that stirred away the PvP environment. I only played the expansion for like 2 months. It was terrible. And like you mentioned NoobsofWraith, the hacks/dupes/bots.
In SC2, you can just play a match or 2 and call it quits. Diablo2? You have to sit there for hours doing pointless grinds just to try to get items/level up your char. IMO, it's just a HUGE waste of time. But to each his own i guess .
On August 07 2009 07:36 Ych9 wrote: Actually, the reason I quit D2 was because of the expansion. I was one of the most old schooled players that focused on PvP. We actually focused on building a balanced agility/strength for the bowazon for dueling. I missed the days when items were actually unique and you were in the trading room looking to trade items.
I was the exact same, except I had a Vitazon with a -40% IAS Chu. I played LoD for a bit, but it wasn't the same.
Anyways, I'm not sure TBH. I'm more excited about playing D3 online with friends, but I think SC2 will be a much better lan game.
On August 06 2009 04:12 ilistis wrote: Do people still play Diablo? I've played the starcraft campaigns as well as the warcraft 3 campaigns but I don't think I've touched Diablo.
Should I play it? Diablo 3 looks really cool so I guess it would help if played the first two.
Should you play Diablo? Do you like clicking your mouse a lot without much thought?
Gonna have to be SC2. Diablo is an absolutely fantastic and incredibly fun franchise, but the PvP play is where it's at, and SC has the true person vs. person experience, not Diablo.
In all honesty I am not even excited for Diablo 3. I'll get it yes and it'll be fun for maybe a couple weeks then I will get bored of it and go back to playing Sc2 most of the time (unless sc2 somehow is horrible but from video's and what not I doubt it). But i'm too excited for sc2 lol.
On August 07 2009 03:42 MyStiC_Chaos wrote: D3 for me... I'm not even excited at all for SC2. I didn't want SC2 to be made to be honest. 3-D just looks like Warcraft but SC version. So yeah I said it I'm not even happy that SC2 is coming out.
D3!
This sums up how I feel.
I'm interested in SC2, but not that excited about it.
On August 07 2009 03:42 MyStiC_Chaos wrote: D3 for me... I'm not even excited at all for SC2. I didn't want SC2 to be made to be honest. 3-D just looks like Warcraft but SC version. So yeah I said it I'm not even happy that SC2 is coming out.
D3!
Ummm...have you seen the game since the Terran unveiling over a year ago? The colors are MORE subdued than SC1 - look at the zerg, they don't have bright colored splotches everywhere, just a slight 'tint' of that color. It's looking really nice.
On August 06 2009 08:10 Zato-1 wrote: To clarify the above post to someone who hasn't played Diablo before: To attack an enemy, you have to click on it.
Diablo has claimed the lives of many computer mice.
Diablo 1 probably claimed a lot of mice cuz you had to keep on clicking on an enemy until it was dead.
Diablo 2 changed this; all you had to do was HOLD DOWN the mouse button on the enemy and leave it there till it died. Way less APM and way less mouse deaths :D
On August 05 2009 10:30 garmule2 wrote: Diablo 3 looks like it'll be horrible, purely from the ridiculous problems seen in trailer footage. Not game problems, i'm talking design and attitude problems. A bright and cheery world where heroes do insane WHOOSH and BAM physics-defying NEON FIRE attacks like some sort of cocaine-tripping children's anime is not at all a sequel to two games that were grim, gothic, and mundane-for-the-most-part. Like in d1 and d2, heroes swung weapons, shot arrows, and cast spells. In d3 it's more like they shout move names and do all sorts of cool s**t just to impress kids. Like ULTRA BARBARIAN CHOP!!!!!!!! *small leap, sudden kinetic change straight down, NEON BLUE FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!*
lol.. it's not really like that. People have made reviews when they played it at blizzcon 2008, and said despite the brighter colours etc it has the same dark feel like the first one. that reminds me.. I haven't played the first one, maybe I should beat its campaign.
Someone else made a good point about sc2 not being pure competitive. sc2 has endless options with fun custom games and such, which I almost forgot about.
Judging from the pictures, I'd say the leap was far greater between D1 and D2, than it is between D2 and D3 in terms of atmosphere and darkness. I would even say that D3 seems truer to the original game's atmosphere. If anything, D2 is a pastel colored adventure.
On August 05 2009 10:30 garmule2 wrote: Diablo 3 looks like it'll be horrible, purely from the ridiculous problems seen in trailer footage. Not game problems, i'm talking design and attitude problems. A bright and cheery world where heroes do insane WHOOSH and BAM physics-defying NEON FIRE attacks like some sort of cocaine-tripping children's anime is not at all a sequel to two games that were grim, gothic, and mundane-for-the-most-part. Like in d1 and d2, heroes swung weapons, shot arrows, and cast spells. In d3 it's more like they shout move names and do all sorts of cool s**t just to impress kids. Like ULTRA BARBARIAN CHOP!!!!!!!! *small leap, sudden kinetic change straight down, NEON BLUE FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!*
lol.. it's not really like that. People have made reviews when they played it at blizzcon 2008, and said despite the brighter colours etc it has the same dark feel like the first one. that reminds me.. I haven't played the first one, maybe I should beat its campaign.
Someone else made a good point about sc2 not being pure competitive. sc2 has endless options with fun custom games and such, which I almost forgot about.
Judging from the pictures, I'd say the leap was far greater between D1 and D2, than it is between D2 and D3 in terms of atmosphere and darkness. I would even say that D3 seems truer to the original game's atmosphere. If anything, D2 is a pastel colored adventure.
Edit: fixed problem with nested quote
diablo 1 was awesome. But the game would have been 3 times better if you could RUN in the game. And yeah, d2 was super bright compared to the awesomely gothic diablo 1. From screenshots diablo 3 looks like its inbetween d1 and d2.
On August 05 2009 10:30 garmule2 wrote: Diablo 3 looks like it'll be horrible, purely from the ridiculous problems seen in trailer footage. Not game problems, i'm talking design and attitude problems. A bright and cheery world where heroes do insane WHOOSH and BAM physics-defying NEON FIRE attacks like some sort of cocaine-tripping children's anime is not at all a sequel to two games that were grim, gothic, and mundane-for-the-most-part. Like in d1 and d2, heroes swung weapons, shot arrows, and cast spells. In d3 it's more like they shout move names and do all sorts of cool s**t just to impress kids. Like ULTRA BARBARIAN CHOP!!!!!!!! *small leap, sudden kinetic change straight down, NEON BLUE FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!*
lol.. it's not really like that. People have made reviews when they played it at blizzcon 2008, and said despite the brighter colours etc it has the same dark feel like the first one. that reminds me.. I haven't played the first one, maybe I should beat its campaign.
Someone else made a good point about sc2 not being pure competitive. sc2 has endless options with fun custom games and such, which I almost forgot about.
Judging from the pictures, I'd say the leap was far greater between D1 and D2, than it is between D2 and D3 in terms of atmosphere and darkness. I would even say that D3 seems truer to the original game's atmosphere. If anything, D2 is a pastel colored adventure.
Edit: fixed problem with nested quote
diablo 1 was awesome. But the game would have been 3 times better if you could RUN in the game. And yeah, d2 was super bright compared to the awesomely gothic diablo 1. From screenshots diablo 3 looks like its inbetween d1 and d2.
Thank god we had teleport so it was only a problem in town But I agree, the setting, music and atmosphere in diablo 1 was far better than that in diablo 2. That being said diablo 2 was still one of my favorite games to date.
As a game, I'm way more excited for D3. When talking about impact and significance for 'ESPORTS' and progaming exposure outside of Korea, I'm more psyched about SC2.
if SC2 has half of the ums/custom maps that wc3 has, it would own d3 so hard. Bang for buck wise you would be getting sc2 single player campaign + competitive multiplayer + sc2 dota/sheeptag/towerdefense/RPGs/ and much much more.
On August 21 2009 17:44 Appendix wrote: Judging from the pictures, I'd say the leap was far greater between D1 and D2, than it is between D2 and D3 in terms of atmosphere and darkness. I would even say that D3 seems truer to the original game's atmosphere. If anything, D2 is a pastel colored adventure.
On August 21 2009 18:12 stroggos wrote: d2 was super bright compared to the awesomely gothic diablo 1. From screenshots diablo 3 looks like its inbetween d1 and d2.
Diablo 3, I'm older than I was when I enjoyed competitive starcraft. I've got responsibilities and obligations, I don't have time to sit and practice for hours and take games/competition seriously. Diablo 3 is just going to be a pleasant distraction and a fun way to kill time, starcraft 2 is going to be a life-consuming pursuit to be the best.
Of course, assuming I had all the time in the world, starcraft 2 all the way.
I can confidently say that SC2 will consume the vast majority of my time, given the choice. Considering that you can play CO-OP single player missions, 2v2, 3v3, 4v4 etc... AND have awesome UMS games when you feel like taking a break I just don't see Diablo getting much of my time unless all of my friends feel like taking a break. Probably I'm going to play Diablo for a few weeks and then burn out like usual unless they release new content. Even then, it's going to be on the back burner for sure.
On August 29 2009 08:27 dupsky wrote: diablo series are just great, a must buy..... havent played sc, but may, especially if nothing else is available strategy-wise online.
Just wanted to let you know this is a starcraft forum.
Anyhow, if anyone can honestly find Diablo more appealing than StarCraft right now I'm shocked. Not only will star2 have the whole competitive 1v1 factour, but 2v2,3v3, and 4v4 both random and arranged team adds a ton of value. Then...the custom maps which from what we've seen so far....make your own diablo in sc2, I mean its just too complete of a game, casual, competitive and literally everything in between. If star2 only had 1v1 I could be convinced otherwise, but its just not the case.
Diablo 3 for me as well. I enjoy watching Starcraft but don't enjoy playing it as much as the Diablo games. I'm not really that competitive. I like playing games where I can relax and Starcraft is just too tense. Watching it is another thing, though, since the pros do all the work.
I just think the APM requirements of Starcraft 2 are too high to make it that enjoyable to me. I'll still play it but I won't play it as much as Diablo. Even Warcraft 3, which is much easier mechanics-wise, I ended watching more replays than playing. For Starcraft, it's not even close. I think I've watched more than 5 times as many pro games as I've played actual games.
On June 17 2009 15:19 Magic84 wrote: Neither really.
D2 was one of my favorite games ever. from what i see D3 isn't like that anymore, it isn't a lightning fast game with pk and pvp anymore, and i didn't hear anything about hardcore mode, playing on softcore was such a waste of time.
As for SC2, i'm sure BW will remain a better game.
On June 17 2009 14:57 travis wrote: lol i hate to say it but im more excited about d3 im too old for sc2... don't have the super competitive spirit anymore
I'm really looking forward to trying to see how far I can get on a hardcore ladder from the day D3 is released. I plan to play it a lot, but for sure SC2 is more exciting to me.
it isn't a lightning fast game with pk and pvp anymore, and i didn't hear anything about hardcore mode
Just because you can't do pvp or change gamemode at the demos at blizzcon doesn't mean they won't be there.
On August 29 2009 08:27 dupsky wrote: diablo series are just great, a must buy..... havent played sc, but may, especially if nothing else is available strategy-wise online.
Just wanted to let you know this is a starcraft forum
...wow, could you please remind me of the shape of the earth also?
On June 17 2009 14:57 travis wrote: lol i hate to say it but im more excited about d3 im too old for sc2... don't have the super competitive spirit anymore
This.
yeah, i kinda hope the competetiveness will come back but i lost that somewhere around WC3 patch 1.06...
On August 29 2009 08:36 Gryffindor_us wrote: I can confidently say that SC2 will consume the vast majority of my time, given the choice. Considering that you can play CO-OP single player missions, 2v2, 3v3, 4v4 etc... AND have awesome UMS games when you feel like taking a break I just don't see Diablo getting much of my time unless all of my friends feel like taking a break. Probably I'm going to play Diablo for a few weeks and then burn out like usual unless they release new content. Even then, it's going to be on the back burner for sure.
This is true for me aswell. Still, Im dying for those 3 weeks of fun with D3 =)
On August 22 2009 01:54 killadevill wrote: 34% on a Starcraft forum. That has to say something about Diablo III
It says that Diablo 3 is a noob game aimed at casuals, while Starcraft 2 is for the more hardcore.
Reason why 'The Sims' is the most popular pc game of all time.
I'm quite sure that's not what he meant. You'd rather expect like 95% of people saying "Diablo 3 is a noob game, GTFO from our StarCraft and it's universe! Starcraft >>>>>>>>>>> StarCraft2 >>>>>>>All !!"
But surprisingly it's not that way, on forum of most-hardcore-SC-community game with name other than "StarCraft" isn't being STOMPED in poll. However, it is SC2 so i'm quite sure that v. much of these votes are votes of "omg SC2 won't be as good as SC1 - ever - so i'll vote for D3 just to show how i dislike SC2 !!1111!1oneone!"
Dunno who bumped this old post, but this made me laugh ultimately out loud:
On June 17 2009 14:55 Assault_1 wrote: - b.net 2.0, so I'm expecting D3 to be pretty much maphack, botting, duping, and hacking free. d2 used old coding and really suffered from this, probably its biggest letdown.
:D B.net 2.0 is the most bug and hack filled shit ever.
well, this is a starcraft site so SC 2 is really going to own Diablo 3 on the poll, check if there's a website about diablo 3 like teamliquid and D3 would win of course.
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