On May 04 2009 08:27 Suc wrote:
Well in the StarFeeder Q&A it says that the Colossus attack is 23 damage, I don't know when Blizzard said that it was 45.

Recently on the Korean battle.net forum Blizzard said it was 45 damage. That was about a month ago.

Then more recently Karune said it was cut to 40, only days before the Q&A said it does 23 (x2) damage. Given the timings of the Q&A, it might have older information than Karuen's recent post.

MoNSteR_K4iSeR

United States46 Posts

May 10 2009 20:38 GMT

#108

Yup ur right. I THINK its 23 damage per beam so it will give the units a second or two to escape.

Whalecore

Norway1110 Posts

May 11 2009 09:00 GMT

#109

On April 19 2009 13:23 Insane Lane wrote:
New colossus damage looks awesome and just what they need!

I can really imagine them being the new reaver/lurker, in terms of the fact that they deal heavy aoe damage and force the opponent to micro against them. And how will the tech timing compare for colossus vs. marine combat shields?

I doubt Terran bio will be viable vs Protoss, even in SC2.

First of all you have storm which owns small units.
Also the colossus will probably slaughter marines, whether they are shielded or not.

DeCoup

Australia1933 Posts

May 11 2009 09:28 GMT

#110

To me it looks like their trying to avoid allowing one lone unit to be so devastating in sc2. The reaver, arbiter (through recall), queen (instant kill high tier units with broodling) etc. Even their 'hero' units (mothership, queen) are defensive in nature to stop them from being so deadly.

I don't think the colossus should be compared to the reaver, because its not similar enough. It's not a replacement. It's a different unit filling a different role, and the reaver happened to be removed.

Mobius

Canada1268 Posts

May 11 2009 15:14 GMT

#111

dude reaver/shuttle was so cool. thats only thing i liked about protoss.. if you elimate that the game is stupid.. ahh well i trust blizzard judgement.

R3condite

Korea (South)1541 Posts

May 11 2009 18:53 GMT

#112

IMHO the colossus seemed to miss... ALOT when attacking.. wat's the point of having spread dmg if it always chooses the worst direction to shoot it in?

Klockan3

Sweden2866 Posts

May 11 2009 19:00 GMT

#113

On May 04 2009 08:27 Suc wrote:
Well in the StarFeeder Q&A it says that the Colossus attack is 23 damage, I don't know when Blizzard said that it was 45.

2x23=46.

I would guess that they changed the animation so it scissors the targets, it would make it look a lot better.

GogoKodo

Canada1785 Posts

May 11 2009 19:09 GMT

#114

On May 12 2009 03:53 R3condite wrote:
IMHO the colossus seemed to miss... ALOT when attacking.. wat's the point of having spread dmg if it always chooses the worst direction to shoot it in?

IT doesn't choose what direction to shoot. You do, by choosing what unit to attack.. So it might be the fact that we've only seen videos from mediocre players that we see it get crappy shots all the time.

MoNSteR_K4iSeR

United States46 Posts

May 12 2009 02:55 GMT

#115

dont forget zealots with charge owns all terran infantries.

w00tm0nger

United States20 Posts

May 18 2009 22:05 GMT

#116

reaver ftw.... you need way more skill, also, i like the reaver AoE more than the collosus AoE even if it is bigger.

evanthebouncy!

United States12796 Posts

May 18 2009 22:33 GMT

#117

On April 18 2009 05:23 choboPEon wrote:
no one is going to vote colossus until they have time to use it and become attached to it

i love that little worm tank

yeah :3 little worm tank is the shit.

KaasZerg

Netherlands927 Posts

May 18 2009 22:48 GMT

#118

It seems hard for the collosus to step up to the role of harras/firesupport units. The reaver is almost symbiotic with the shuttle wich is more flexible then cliffwalk. The reaver can be knocked out or crippled by losing its transport besides being destroyed itself or both. I don't think scarabs are luckbased. It is sad you need airunits to fight something on a cliff in SC2. The 30 % misschance wasn't a real problem. If there are spotters the advantage is nullified. There is a trend to simplify everything.
What is the collosus supposed to be. Shields upgrade ->tanking. Range upgrade->support/harass?
Can you pop it in and out of a phaseprism, lol.

Also I like units that deal a lot of damage compared to their own Hitpoints. If that ratio is the same for different units prioritising targets becomes meh. Bang for your buck. There enough Jack of all trade units as it is.

If the damage is 2x23 and workers have the same hitpoints it wil be a good harasser indeed. It is a lot tougher then a shuttle. So how do you stop this thing besides don't let the toss get a strong econ or keeping a shitton of units on guardduty. But this is where the new anti-armour weapons might come in handy. Or it could become an annoying boring cookiecutter strategy to suicide these things into workerlines.

But I am glad blizz is working to put new stuff in. And the reaver will be in the editor or maybe even produceble in multiplayer in part 2 or 3 of the trilogy.

w00tm0nger

United States20 Posts

May 19 2009 00:09 GMT

#119

You know... just a thought, but I kinda like the idea of the sweeping beam NOT hitting every unit in the line at once. It'll bring back some of the micro that will be sorely missed by the opposing side. In SC1, you had a chance of getting lucky or saving a few drones by microing your workers away from the scarab. In SC2, since the colossus is more or less the reaver replacement, I figure give it an ever so slight attack buff, like mabey 5 or 10, and adjust the speed of the sweeping beam for balance issues, to make it a more micro-intensive unit... unstead of just walking up and down... then firing... then down... then up... zzzzzzzz... wha? oh yeah i was in the middle of a post... anyway, it'll make it a lot funner to watch in the very least.

even still... i miss the reaver... and it can never be replaced.

da_head

Canada3350 Posts

May 19 2009 00:35 GMT

#120

On May 11 2009 18:28 DeCoup wrote:
To me it looks like their trying to avoid allowing one lone unit to be so devastating in sc2. The reaver, arbiter (through recall), queen (instant kill high tier units with broodling) etc. Even their 'hero' units (mothership, queen) are defensive in nature to stop them from being so deadly.

I don't think the colossus should be compared to the reaver, because its not similar enough. It's not a replacement. It's a different unit filling a different role, and the reaver happened to be removed.

queen? devastating? o.O