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Artosis *
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States2140 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-02 09:04:52
March 02 2009 07:34 GMT
#1
full video: CLICK HERE

for those of you who can't get the video to work on scforall.com here are the 3 youtube links:

PART 1:


PART 2:


PART 3:



**EDIT** sry about any problems watching the video. we're working to fix it right now.

IdrA and I discuss what is known about the game, theory behind some matchups, and most importantly the new macro mechanics + MBS. I'm really interested to see peoples opinions and arguments for//against what we say, so go ahead and let me know.

thx hope u enjoy.
Commentatorhttp://twitter.com/Artosis
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3354 Posts
March 02 2009 07:44 GMT
#2
This is the first time that a video on scforall will not work for me
김택용 Fighting!
Phrogs!
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Japan521 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-02 07:51:06
March 02 2009 07:45 GMT
#3
Omg the lil pictures on the whiteboard in the background hahahaha

thanks artosis

edit: I'm halfway through this long video and I just wanted to add this is what Ive been wanting for ages - high level discussion of SC2 matchups from players who have a clue. really very nice
Rho_
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States971 Posts
March 02 2009 07:45 GMT
#4
Hitting play, but it does not play
Centric
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1989 Posts
March 02 2009 07:46 GMT
#5
Yeah the video doesn't play.
Super serious.
alphafuzard
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1610 Posts
March 02 2009 07:47 GMT
#6
Not working for me either, and it usually does...
:o
more weight
Centric
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1989 Posts
March 02 2009 07:47 GMT
#7
It's working now.
Super serious.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
March 02 2009 07:53 GMT
#8
Just keep pressing the play button from the video list and then clicking the video. Usually works after a few tries.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
404.Delirium
Profile Joined May 2008
United States1190 Posts
March 02 2009 07:55 GMT
#9
On March 02 2009 16:44 Yaqoob wrote:
This is the first time that a video on scforall will not work for me

seriously next disrespectful comment in this blog is ip ban. Be happy or get the hell out. // SC2 is like playing with neutral-colored Play-Doh while BW is like colorful Legos.
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
March 02 2009 07:59 GMT
#10
Damn. I watched about 15 minutes, then the video stopped and I can't seem to get it to work again

From what I've seen by now:
a) The talk goes quite in-depth, which is great. Also, it never occurred to me that stacked mutas + unlimited selection is ultra powerful, although it's kinda obvious
b) Idra fidgetting drives me crazy.
EGLzGaMeR
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1867 Posts
March 02 2009 08:09 GMT
#11
On March 02 2009 16:55 Delirium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2009 16:44 Yaqoob wrote:
This is the first time that a video on scforall will not work for me


this
ZoW
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3983 Posts
March 02 2009 08:12 GMT
#12
The last 3-4 minutes cuts off =(
Nice discussion, very well done. I loved the insight you guys gave to the various matchups, especially on ZvZ.
the courage to be a lazy bum
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3354 Posts
March 02 2009 08:18 GMT
#13
It's working for me now. Its loading a bit slow but I don't mind that
김택용 Fighting!
alphafuzard
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1610 Posts
March 02 2009 08:26 GMT
#14
Got it to work
Personally, I really dislike the constant reinforcement thing (drop pods, warp gates, nydus worms). One key point about Starcraft is the idea of the defender's advantage. The defender gets to set up his army beforehand, and also has a much shorter route for reinforcement. This means that building a tiny advantage will generally not be enough to ride your way to victory. In SC2, the ability to directly reinforce your army means that the defender loses this crucial advantage and a very small victory could lead to an easy victory. It seems like SC2 games will turn out short and action-packed. I doubt very many 30+ minute games will occur when one can so easily capitalize on an advantage. I could see how this would be good from a spectator's point of view, but as a player, I prefer the old method.

Anyways, great analysis. It was really fun to listen to.
more weight
Ziph
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands970 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-02 08:48:54
March 02 2009 08:45 GMT
#15
What is this bullshit about that you don't need too move your screen for warp in but you do for drop pods.

Yes Indeed all you do is Z click Z click Z click but thats not whats it about. You have to place the units you want to warp in IN PYLON power, this makes you go back too your base where pylon power is and thus leaving your army aka multitasking.

Then 2, drop pods is not harder at all as you can just select ALL your units and right click on your drop pod while if you have 20 warp-gates you have to z click 20 times.

Warp In requires more apm and almost as much if not the same amount of multitasking.

This Protoss bashing makes me sick Same about the DT OH SO OVERPOWERED. It gets really anyoing please just stfu about it.
Starcraft 2 - Beta
Samurai-
Profile Joined May 2008
Slovenia2035 Posts
March 02 2009 08:45 GMT
#16
Jeah, i also dislike this reinforcement thingy, it sounds lame..
One ring, to rule them all!
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-02 09:00:52
March 02 2009 08:46 GMT
#17
Artosis I'm stopping my torrents just for this! <3

edit: the roach thing - that's exactly what happened in warcraft 3 in UD vs NE, where even the top UD players like Lucifer / Sweet were choosing NE mirror against the top korean NE's and just went for the randomness of mass huntress wars.
x89titan
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Philippines1130 Posts
March 02 2009 08:49 GMT
#18
the video ended at like 5 mins and dint restart
Heaven came down and glory filled my soul, when at the cross the Savior made me whole
alphafuzard
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1610 Posts
March 02 2009 08:56 GMT
#19
On March 02 2009 17:45 Ziph wrote:
What is this bullshit about that you don't need too move your screen for warp in but you do for drop pods.

Yes Indeed all you do is Z click Z click Z click but thats not whats it about. You have to place the units you want to warp in IN PYLON power, this makes you go back too your base where pylon power is and thus leaving your army aka multitasking.

Then 2, drop pods is not harder at all as you can just select ALL your units and right click on your drop pod while if you have 20 warp-gates you have to z click 20 times.

Warp In requires more apm and almost as much if not the same amount of multitasking.

This Protoss bashing makes me sick Same about the DT OH SO OVERPOWERED. It gets really anyoing please just stfu about it.

I'm kinda a SC2 n00b, but from what I've seen, many (all?) protoss players make proxy pylons solely for the purpose of warping in units. In this way, you wont have to move back to your base to find pylon power because it will be very near your front line ^.^
Btw, you sound pretty disrepectful, even if it wasn't your intent. I would back off a bit, these guys are just trying to do something interesting analysis for the benefit of others, not to put down anyone.
more weight
MyLostTemple *
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2921 Posts
March 02 2009 08:56 GMT
#20
I WAS SUPPOSED TO TALK ABOUT THE MUTA BALL!!! NOT GREG! =] good vid though
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