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On February 16 2009 00:14 SyphllusSteve wrote:
I love this idea. This mechanic would bring a new level of strategy to the game. My question is how long would it take from when you initiated the drop pod take off untill your troops have arrived on the battlefield. Depending upon how long your troops are tied up I believe this ability can be very useful. As such I think it should be given a fairly high resource cost.
Currently the mechanic is set up to be instantaneous.
One thing that I am noticing with the WC3 model map is that paying for drop pods makes them much less effective then just sending your marines to the enemy base. The best uses I have found are building a tower close to the enemy's base and dropping in there base. I will try lowering the cost closer to zero but right now it looks like paying for a one time use transport mechanic is too much of a detriment. Now I could try changing the map so you don't have to pay any cost at all but then the drop pod mechanic becomes too similar to the nydus worm and warp-in.
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Sweden33723 Posts
IMO it's different enough - nydus is 2 way and unlimited units, warp-in is 1 unit, 1 way. This would be 1 way with a limit somewhere inbetween 1 and unlimited.
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But you forgot to mention unit variation.
unlimited all kinds of ground zerg units
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1 at a time per warpgate gate units
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Marines ?
Seems like terrans got the shaft here
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I was suggesting small-middle ground units. ^_______^
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On February 10 2009 10:24 IdrA wrote:
also why is it called a macro mechanic, it has nothing to do with unit production
Idra, just a quick follow up to that debate we were having on whether Macro can be things unrelated to unit production:
Proton Charge, Null Shield, Argus Link, Calldown Extra Supplies, Scanner Sweep, Build Creep Tumor, Razor Plague
It appears that Blizzard favors the "Macro as a gameplay style" definition.
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Sweden33723 Posts
I couldn't find anything on that in the Q&A archive, only questions unanswered after the removal concerning a comeback. Does anyone have clues or know the official explanation?
- Musza
The role of the drop pod fit very closely with what Medivac Dropships already do even better. Overall, through testing, it was far better to build Medivac Dropships to drop off reinforcements or raid, especially since drop pods still needed to be loaded with infantry as well.
- Karune
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The original drop pod was quite different from what's proposed in this thread tho, so I'm not sure it's still valid.
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On February 19 2009 09:12 Archerofaiur wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2009 10:24 IdrA wrote:
also why is it called a macro mechanic, it has nothing to do with unit production Idra, just a quick follow up to that debate we were having on whether Macro can be things unrelated to unit production: Proton Charge, Null Shield, Argus Link, Calldown Extra Supplies, Scanner Sweep, Build Creep Tumor, Razor Plague It appears that Blizzard favors the "Macro as a gameplay style" definition.
how exactly are razor plague, scans, null shield, argus links, and creep tumors macro mechanics?
the proton charge, mules, extra supplies and extra larvae are the macro mechanics. the other things are added to the things responsible for the macro mechanics to create an extra layer of decision making to the process, forcing you to prioritize between macro (proton charge/mule/larvae) and non-macro(othershit). that does not mean othershit is also a macro mechanic. so no, it appears blizzard thinks you were wrong as well.
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On March 14 2009 23:56 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2009 09:12 Archerofaiur wrote:On February 10 2009 10:24 IdrA wrote:
also why is it called a macro mechanic, it has nothing to do with unit production Idra, just a quick follow up to that debate we were having on whether Macro can be things unrelated to unit production: Proton Charge, Null Shield, Argus Link, Calldown Extra Supplies, Scanner Sweep, Build Creep Tumor, Razor Plague It appears that Blizzard favors the "Macro as a gameplay style" definition. how exactly are razor plague, scans, null shield, argus links, and creep tumors macro mechanics? the proton charge, mules, extra supplies and extra larvae are the macro mechanics. the other things are added to the things responsible for the macro mechanics to create an extra layer of decision making to the process, forcing you to prioritize between macro (proton charge/mule/larvae) and non-macro(othershit). that does not mean othershit is also a macro mechanic. so no, it appears blizzard thinks you were wrong as well.
Don't worry about. You are not going to convince me and I am not going to convince you and arguing with you is a waste of both our time.
On March 14 2009 23:28 FrozenArbiter wrote:
The original drop pod was quite different from what's proposed in this thread tho, so I'm not sure it's still valid.
This is true. Our drop pod was more accessible. I'd still bet some good money that drop pods are going to be in the single player. So we will see what the final version is.
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On March 15 2009 01:12 Archerofaiur wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2009 23:56 IdrA wrote:On February 19 2009 09:12 Archerofaiur wrote:On February 10 2009 10:24 IdrA wrote:
also why is it called a macro mechanic, it has nothing to do with unit production Idra, just a quick follow up to that debate we were having on whether Macro can be things unrelated to unit production: Proton Charge, Null Shield, Argus Link, Calldown Extra Supplies, Scanner Sweep, Build Creep Tumor, Razor Plague It appears that Blizzard favors the "Macro as a gameplay style" definition. how exactly are razor plague, scans, null shield, argus links, and creep tumors macro mechanics? the proton charge, mules, extra supplies and extra larvae are the macro mechanics. the other things are added to the things responsible for the macro mechanics to create an extra layer of decision making to the process, forcing you to prioritize between macro (proton charge/mule/larvae) and non-macro(othershit). that does not mean othershit is also a macro mechanic. so no, it appears blizzard thinks you were wrong as well. Don't worry about. You are not going to convince me and I am not going to convince you and arguing with you is a waste of both our time.
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Sweden33723 Posts
Guh can you two drop it?
Yeah I think Blizzard considers macro to be more than just unit production, no I don't think they consider razor plague etc to be macro mechanics -.-
Now you can both pretend/assume you are right and go back to talking about drop pods.......
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One thing I am interested in is different ways you can use the MULE. People have already brought up dropping mules on siege tanks but I am wondering if there are any other crazy tactics you can do with mule drops.
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