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"Starcraft II Expansion To Feature Fourth Race?"

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Talith
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1102 Posts
August 30 2008 00:41 GMT
#1
Taken from game replays.com:

“In the event” that an expansion is produced for the upcoming Starcraft II, Blizzard Entertainment will likely consider introducing a fourth race to the prodigious RTS franchise – or so says the company’s co-founder and Vice President Frank Pearce.

“We don’t have the resources or time to add a fourth race to the launch of StarCraft II, but I’m sure in the event that we decide to do an expansion set it’s a feature that’ll come up for discussion,” said Pearce, in an interview with VG247.

Pearce explained that the possibility of establishing a new faction had been discussed earlier in Starcraft II’s development cycle. “But we felt like we had a finite amount of great ideas and wanted to make sure we focused all the cool, best ideas on the existing three races rather than diluting those ideas across four races” he said.

Starcraft II is set to feature the three races from the original game: the Zerg, Protoss and Terran and as is the case with all Blizzard titles, you can expect to see it on the shelf “when it’s done”.


Thoughts? Ideas?
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
August 30 2008 00:50 GMT
#2
I always wanted a fourth race, and since they weren't going to make another for the original game, I naturally hoped they would make one in an expansion. I somewhat doubt it will happen though... they're probably going to have trouble just adding a few more units in, let alone a whole new race
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grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
August 30 2008 00:59 GMT
#3
I don't want another race, i think Blizzard was somewhat lucky that they managed to get SC as balanced as they did, and that just wont happen again if they decide to add another fourth race.
We make signature, then defense it.
Cpt.Cocaine
Profile Joined June 2008
Canada299 Posts
August 30 2008 01:00 GMT
#4
It was also mentioned in earlier interviews and Q&As that they don't want to have too many units per race, and that there was a "perfect" number. Brood war elevated the SC unit count to that "perfect" number, but now they're starting with a similar ammount of units in vanilla SC2. Judging by the design of the current units, I think it might be difficult for them to squeeze any more without adding redundancy, which goes directly against blizzard's design philosophy. That being said, I think if there is an expansion is a likely possibility that it will feature a brand new race rather than focusing on refining the previous three like brood war did. Then again, devellopement isn't over yet and some SC2 units may yet get cut. Even SC lost units during beta phase, and we aren't even there yet.
[X]Ken_D
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States4650 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-30 01:15:07
August 30 2008 01:14 GMT
#5
Look at WC3 with its 4th race. Race became more and more similar with patches and the expansion. I would prefer Blizzard to save the ideas and put it into the existing race in any new expansion.
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moebius_string
Profile Joined December 2007
United States264 Posts
August 30 2008 01:23 GMT
#6
If they keep the 4th race like the Naga thats OK, but including a playable multiplayer 4th race for the expansion could be a disaster for balance and is best left alone.
FBH is insurance.
theonemephisto
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States409 Posts
August 30 2008 01:28 GMT
#7
I'd say that it would be certainly possible for blizzard to add another race, and out of all the game companies I would trust blizzard the most, but it would be an extremely difficult endeavor. Starcraft balance depends on the asymmetries between races that allow mapmakers to custom-tailor the balance with features that help or hinder certain races, and adding a race with enough differences to exploit for balance would probably be almost impossible.

Of course, knowing blizzard they will think very long and hard about the idea. And if they decide to do it, I have every confidence that it will be at least decently done (after many patches).
Ra.Xor.2
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1784 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-30 01:33:39
August 30 2008 01:33 GMT
#8
Dammit no 4th races. Perhaps a 4th race which you can play in campaign and in custom UMS's but not a fully functional 4th race.

edit:
If they keep the 4th race like the Naga thats OK, but including a playable multiplayer 4th race for the expansion could be a disaster for balance and is best left alone.

you already said it for me
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avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
August 30 2008 01:33 GMT
#9
Blizzard should stick to the formula that worked for SC/BW's greatness. aka simply create an expansion for SC2 that has new units, and abilities for each of the current three races -> 100% analogous to SC having brood war.

great success!
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Retsukage
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1002 Posts
August 30 2008 01:45 GMT
#10
Sam Wise has already stated how severely unwanted a 4rth race is in the multilayer, and that it will not happen, not even in an expansion. That's not to say a 4th playable race in the campaign is out of the question though, just in multilayer it is.
To change is to improve, to change often is to be perfect - Winston Chruchill
Aerox
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Malaysia1213 Posts
August 30 2008 01:47 GMT
#11
lulz, and many were disappointed when there was no fourth race revealed. So easily influenced by blizzard media. xD

I became contented with them setting the number of races to 3 but partly the reason was because I expect the 4th race to be out in the expansion. There are quite a few posts I've seen of TLers who hinted this expectation as well.
"Eyes in the sky."
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8097 Posts
August 30 2008 02:02 GMT
#12
If a 4th race is added for multiplayer, too many elements/themes will overlap. Just look at WC3.
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51444 Posts
August 30 2008 02:08 GMT
#13
A fourth race for Single player campaign is good enough for me.
Just don't ruin the multiplayer balance.
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ohhsuup
Profile Joined July 2008
64 Posts
August 30 2008 02:10 GMT
#14
if a 4th race is introduced, it will no doubt destroy starcraft as we know it. 3 races is the magic number for RTSes. One of the reasons warcraft 3 is not as balanced is because of a 4th race, nobody can refute that. the classic "Z>P>T>Z" of starcraft is multiplied by tenfold when you apply this analysis to warcraft 3, meaning that it is less balanced. no 2 ways about it. if blizzard announces that there will be a 4th race for the expansion, i think that we should start a petition against it.
Ma Jae Yoon Fighting
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
August 30 2008 02:25 GMT
#15
On August 30 2008 11:10 ohhsuup wrote:
if a 4th race is introduced, it will no doubt destroy starcraft as we know it. 3 races is the magic number for RTSes. One of the reasons warcraft 3 is not as balanced is because of a 4th race, nobody can refute that. the classic "Z>P>T>Z" of starcraft is multiplied by tenfold when you apply this analysis to warcraft 3, meaning that it is less balanced. no 2 ways about it. if blizzard announces that there will be a 4th race for the expansion, i think that we should start a petition against it.

i totally agreed
this is kinda off-topic (sorry), but has anyone started a petition against MBS?
Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
August 30 2008 03:06 GMT
#16
I only aprove of a panda race. Nothing else. And even then, it should only be in single player.
this is my quote.
Nerapalm
Profile Joined July 2008
United States39 Posts
August 30 2008 03:13 GMT
#17
Well I don't really care but it would be nice to see the ancient race that they were talking about in BW in that bonus mission. If its the Xel-naga then good. Even if it is just for the campaign i would be fine with it. I dunno why they are leaving the Xel-naga out so much till now but don't you guys and gals think that it would be interesting to know how the Xel-naga would feel like to play.
freshtowers
Profile Joined August 2008
Albania64 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-30 03:27:01
August 30 2008 03:26 GMT
#18
" we want innovative fun games starcraft is getting boring"
" we want balance at all costs don't add anything new"

Seriously if you want balance at all costs then they should make only one race playable. balancing 4 races isn't hard at all and it would make starcraft not so boring. All you see is the same old units same everything not much variety because there's not much to pick from. More units+ more races = more fun but oh no! balance will suffer!! balance never seemed to stop kespa from putting interesting maps into leagues. anyone who opposes more variety probably played only starcraft and has no idea how a game with 4+ races works
moebius_string
Profile Joined December 2007
United States264 Posts
August 30 2008 03:55 GMT
#19
On August 30 2008 12:26 freshtowers wrote:
anyone who opposes more variety probably played only starcraft and has no idea how a game with 4+ races works


It's called WC3. The game is fun, but the fun is fleeting because of balnance. I played Dawn of War which was also fun, but watched as the game was flogged to death with race after race after race at the expense of game balance.

FBH is insurance.
EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
August 30 2008 04:11 GMT
#20
If they're going to make a fourth race, they should make it completely imba so as to be banned from competitive play. Failing that, I think a "supplemental" race (i.e. one that can't build combat units but can boost unit production etcetera might be cool for team games. You know, for all those people who can't stand the sight of blood.
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
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